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Balrog0
10/02/19 10:40:00 PM
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Pennsylvania State Rep Sara Innamorato was on a panel. She's DSA from what I gather. She was the least radical member of the panel

One of the projects this group is undertaking is trying to reframe economic narrative specifically to undermine neoliberalism

That's a p big deal IMO

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Antifar
10/02/19 10:42:23 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
Pennsylvania State Rep Lisa Innamorato was on a panel.

The name sounded familiar, but nothing came up on Google search. It's Sara, apparently.
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pls
10/02/19 10:42:23 PM
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Absolutely sickening
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Balrog0
10/02/19 10:43:08 PM
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Antifar posted...
The name sounded familiar, but nothing came up on Google search. It's Sara, apparently.


Yeah, my bad! Fixed

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Balrog0
10/02/19 10:47:32 PM
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pls posted...
Absolutely sickening


Why is that?

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pls
10/02/19 11:04:27 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
pls posted...
Absolutely sickening


Why is that?


A surge in the far left is a sickening reminder of the 20th century in the same way the alt right is.
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Webmaster4531
10/02/19 11:10:49 PM
#8:


pls posted...
Balrog0 posted...
pls posted...
Absolutely sickening


Why is that?


A surge in the far left is a sickening reminder of the 20th century in the same way the alt right is.

In the rest of the world they're barely left of center.
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MasterGakke
10/02/19 11:11:54 PM
#9:


pls posted...
Balrog0 posted...
pls posted...
Absolutely sickening


Why is that?


A surge in the far left is a sickening reminder of the 20th century in the same way the alt right is.

Just put the heil Hitler on there, why bother trying to drape shit over it like we can't see it?
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Balrog0
10/02/19 11:12:13 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
In the rest of the world they're barely left of center.


I mean there were actual communists involved, like I said the DSA person was the least radical person

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pls
10/02/19 11:15:03 PM
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Not to mention that @Webmaster4531 is basically far left himself so of course he'd downplay how radical it is.

Yikes.
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pls
10/02/19 11:17:11 PM
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MasterGakke posted...
pls posted...
Balrog0 posted...
pls posted...
Absolutely sickening


Why is that?


A surge in the far left is a sickening reminder of the 20th century in the same way the alt right is.

Just put the heil Hitler on there, why bother trying to drape shit over it like we can't see it?


You're basically saying that if someone isn't far left they're a Nazi. Do you realize how fucking stupid such a position is?
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Webmaster4531
10/02/19 11:18:10 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
In the rest of the world they're barely left of center.


I mean there were actual communists involved, like I said the DSA person was the least radical person

Well all you've said is they're trying to undermine neo liberalism. Neo liberalism ruined Mexico so I don't see a problem.
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MasterGakke
10/02/19 11:19:34 PM
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pls posted...
MasterGakke posted...
pls posted...
Balrog0 posted...
pls posted...
Absolutely sickening


Why is that?


A surge in the far left is a sickening reminder of the 20th century in the same way the alt right is.

Just put the heil Hitler on there, why bother trying to drape shit over it like we can't see it?


You're basically saying that if someone isn't far left they're a Nazi. Do you realize how fucking stupid such a position is?

Or I could be fucking with you because you've got a stick up your ass and couldn't define socialism with a textbook in front of you. It's ok, though, thinking is scary!
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pls
10/02/19 11:22:16 PM
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MasterGakke posted...
pls posted...
MasterGakke posted...
pls posted...
Balrog0 posted...
pls posted...
Absolutely sickening


Why is that?


A surge in the far left is a sickening reminder of the 20th century in the same way the alt right is.

Just put the heil Hitler on there, why bother trying to drape shit over it like we can't see it?


You're basically saying that if someone isn't far left they're a Nazi. Do you realize how fucking stupid such a position is?

Or I could be fucking with you because you've got a stick up your ass and couldn't define socialism with a textbook in front of you. It's ok, though, thinking is scary!


Oh trust me I know all about that shit and how subversive it makes people. Don't you worry about that. It's literally a religion which is ironic considering you lot are supposed to think religion is the opium of the masses LOL!!!!
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Paragon21XX
10/02/19 11:22:36 PM
#16:


Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Balrog0 posted...
pls posted...
Absolutely sickening


Why is that?


A surge in the far left is a sickening reminder of the 20th century in the same way the alt right is.

In the rest of the world they're barely left of center.

So America is still partially sane compared to Europe, is that what you're saying?
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Webmaster4531
10/02/19 11:25:23 PM
#17:


Paragon21XX posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Balrog0 posted...
pls posted...
Absolutely sickening


Why is that?


A surge in the far left is a sickening reminder of the 20th century in the same way the alt right is.

In the rest of the world they're barely left of center.

So America is still partially sane compared to Europe, is that what you're saying?

Concentration camps are sane to you?
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Paragon21XX
10/02/19 11:26:50 PM
#18:


Webmaster4531 posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Balrog0 posted...
pls posted...
Absolutely sickening


Why is that?


A surge in the far left is a sickening reminder of the 20th century in the same way the alt right is.

In the rest of the world they're barely left of center.

So America is still partially sane compared to Europe, is that what you're saying?

Concentration camps are sane to you?

Non sequiturs aren't sane either.
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MasterGakke
10/02/19 11:28:35 PM
#19:


pls posted...
MasterGakke posted...
pls posted...
MasterGakke posted...
pls posted...
Balrog0 posted...
pls posted...
Absolutely sickening


Why is that?


A surge in the far left is a sickening reminder of the 20th century in the same way the alt right is.

Just put the heil Hitler on there, why bother trying to drape shit over it like we can't see it?


You're basically saying that if someone isn't far left they're a Nazi. Do you realize how fucking stupid such a position is?

Or I could be fucking with you because you've got a stick up your ass and couldn't define socialism with a textbook in front of you. It's ok, though, thinking is scary!


Oh trust me I know all about that shit and how subversive it makes people. Don't you worry about that. It's literally a religion which is ironic considering you lot are supposed to think religion is the opium of the masses LOL!!!!

All right, I'm sorry for yelling. I just have a half day tomorrow and this 90 proof rum isn't going to drink itself. Just as long as it's Mary Poppins that there are things between Plutocracy and Socialism.
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TheMikh
10/02/19 11:28:42 PM
#20:


neoliberalism is garbage

but socialism?
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Webmaster4531
10/02/19 11:30:52 PM
#21:


Paragon21XX posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Balrog0 posted...
pls posted...
Absolutely sickening


Why is that?


A surge in the far left is a sickening reminder of the 20th century in the same way the alt right is.

In the rest of the world they're barely left of center.

So America is still partially sane compared to Europe, is that what you're saying?

Concentration camps are sane to you?

Non sequiturs aren't sane either.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/us/politics/border-center-migrant-detention.html
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pls
10/02/19 11:31:33 PM
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MasterGakke posted...
All right, I'm sorry for yelling. I just have a half day tomorrow and this 90 proof rum isn't going to drink itself. Just as long as it's Mary Poppins that there are things between Plutocracy and Socialism.


I mean props for backing off and apologizing for trying to shove Godwin's Law up my ass. I'd agree with you on there being a lot of things in between plutocracy and socialism.
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pls
10/02/19 11:33:26 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/us/politics/border-center-migrant-detention.html


Really weird how you intentionally try to stoke connections to Nazi Germany but remain completely silent about the death camps in China right now, where people are sent as prisoners and their organs harvested.

You can oppose the bad conditions at the border without being dishonest about the parallels to Nazi Germany.
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Webmaster4531
10/02/19 11:38:12 PM
#24:


pls posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/us/politics/border-center-migrant-detention.html


Really weird how you intentionally try to stoke connections to Nazi Germany but remain completely silent about the death camps in China right now, where people are sent as prisoners and their organs harvested.

You can oppose the bad conditions at the border without being dishonest about the parallels to Nazi Germany.

I'll vote out the Chinese President when I get the chance. Why do you want me to pretend American concentration camps aren't concentration camps?
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pls
10/02/19 11:40:55 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/us/politics/border-center-migrant-detention.html


Really weird how you intentionally try to stoke connections to Nazi Germany but remain completely silent about the death camps in China right now, where people are sent as prisoners and their organs harvested.

You can oppose the bad conditions at the border without being dishonest about the parallels to Nazi Germany.

I'll vote out the Chinese President when I get the chance. Why do you want me to pretend American concentration camps aren't concentration camps?


Dude I'm not even going to waste time entertaining this bullshit that you are so desperate to cling to as a GOTCHA or w/e you think it is. Tens of thousands of people each month are not flocking into the country just to land in a Nazi concentration camp.
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Broseph_Stalin
10/02/19 11:44:37 PM
#26:


Balrog0 posted...
One of the projects this group is undertaking is trying to reframe economic narrative specifically to undermine neoliberalism


does the jazz hand crowd really think they're going to undermine the most successful political movement in human history?
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pls
10/02/19 11:45:51 PM
#27:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Balrog0 posted...
One of the projects this group is undertaking is trying to reframe economic narrative specifically to undermine neoliberalism


does the jazz hand crowd really think they're going to undermine the most successful political movement in human history?


Albeist!!!!! ABLEIST!!!!!! you implied everyone has hands.
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MedeaLysistrata
10/02/19 11:47:40 PM
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Did you organize the conference or are you just there as capital?
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Webmaster4531
10/02/19 11:48:44 PM
#29:


pls posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Really weird how you intentionally try to stoke connections to Nazi Germany but remain completely silent about the death camps in China right now, where people are sent as prisoners and their organs harvested.

You can oppose the bad conditions at the border without being dishonest about the parallels to Nazi Germany.

I'll vote out the Chinese President when I get the chance. Why do you want me to pretend American concentration camps aren't concentration camps?


Dude I'm not even going to waste time entertaining this bullshit that you are so desperate to cling to as a GOTCHA or w/e you think it is. Tens of thousands of people each month are not flocking into the country just to land in a Nazi concentration camp.

At least answer why do you want me to pretend American concentration camps aren't concentration camps?
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Hop103
10/02/19 11:49:05 PM
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Socialism is incompatible with American values and is the ideology of lunatics and Nimby types.
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Webmaster4531
10/02/19 11:49:40 PM
#31:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Balrog0 posted...
One of the projects this group is undertaking is trying to reframe economic narrative specifically to undermine neoliberalism


does the jazz hand crowd really think they're going to undermine the most successful political movement in human history?

Mexico is doing really great huh?
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pls
10/02/19 11:50:19 PM
#32:


Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Really weird how you intentionally try to stoke connections to Nazi Germany but remain completely silent about the death camps in China right now, where people are sent as prisoners and their organs harvested.

You can oppose the bad conditions at the border without being dishonest about the parallels to Nazi Germany.

I'll vote out the Chinese President when I get the chance. Why do you want me to pretend American concentration camps aren't concentration camps?


Dude I'm not even going to waste time entertaining this bullshit that you are so desperate to cling to as a GOTCHA or w/e you think it is. Tens of thousands of people each month are not flocking into the country just to land in a Nazi concentration camp.

At least answer why do you want me to pretend American concentration camps aren't concentration camps?


Why are you saying America has Nazi concentration camps?
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Webmaster4531
10/02/19 11:53:58 PM
#33:


pls posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Really weird how you intentionally try to stoke connections to Nazi Germany but remain completely silent about the death camps in China right now, where people are sent as prisoners and their organs harvested.

You can oppose the bad conditions at the border without being dishonest about the parallels to Nazi Germany.

I'll vote out the Chinese President when I get the chance. Why do you want me to pretend American concentration camps aren't concentration camps?


Dude I'm not even going to waste time entertaining this bullshit that you are so desperate to cling to as a GOTCHA or w/e you think it is. Tens of thousands of people each month are not flocking into the country just to land in a Nazi concentration camp.

At least answer why do you want me to pretend American concentration camps aren't concentration camps?


Why are you saying America has Nazi concentration camps?

Ctrl + F Nazi. Never said Nazi.
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pls
10/02/19 11:55:37 PM
#34:


Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Really weird how you intentionally try to stoke connections to Nazi Germany but remain completely silent about the death camps in China right now, where people are sent as prisoners and their organs harvested.

You can oppose the bad conditions at the border without being dishonest about the parallels to Nazi Germany.

I'll vote out the Chinese President when I get the chance. Why do you want me to pretend American concentration camps aren't concentration camps?


Dude I'm not even going to waste time entertaining this bullshit that you are so desperate to cling to as a GOTCHA or w/e you think it is. Tens of thousands of people each month are not flocking into the country just to land in a Nazi concentration camp.

At least answer why do you want me to pretend American concentration camps aren't concentration camps?


Why are you saying America has Nazi concentration camps?

Ctrl + F Nazi. Never said Nazi.


Ex-fucking-actly. Boom. You just admitted blatantly that you know exactly what you are trying to do. You are being really fucking dishonest by trying to evoke images of Nazi Germany's death camps.

Get outta here kid.
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Broseph_Stalin
10/02/19 11:56:50 PM
#35:


Webmaster4531 posted...
Mexico is doing really great huh?

Well I mean not everyone can be as huge a success story as Venezuela and Cuba but yeah they're doing pretty good all things considered
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Tmaster148
10/02/19 11:58:48 PM
#36:


Proudclad only wants some fascist state. That's why he hates the left.
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pls
10/02/19 11:58:57 PM
#37:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Mexico is doing really great huh?

Well I mean not everyone can be as huge a success story as Venezuela and Cuba but yeah they're doing pretty good all things considered


B-b-but Venezuela and Cuba were capitalist countries all along!

Never mind that just a handful of years ago the left was praising those countries as beacons.
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pls
10/02/19 11:59:58 PM
#38:


Tmaster148 posted...
Proudclad only wants some fascist state. That's why he hates the left.


No I want a free society where I don't get taxed to death and where the collective doesn't get to decide what we can own, believe, and do.
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Paper_Okami
10/03/19 12:00:12 AM
#39:


Hop103 posted...
Socialism is incompatible with American values and is the ideology of lunatics and Nimby types.


American values are garbage

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Tmaster148
10/03/19 12:01:00 AM
#40:


pls posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Proudclad only wants some fascist state. That's why he hates the left.


No I want a free society where I don't get taxed to death and where the collective doesn't get to decide what we can own, believe, and do.


That's why you defend fascists.
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pls
10/03/19 12:01:03 AM
#41:


Paper_Okami posted...
Hop103 posted...
Socialism is incompatible with American values and is the ideology of lunatics and Nimby types.


American values are garbage


Then leave
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Doom_Art
10/03/19 12:05:03 AM
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Wait @pls is Proudclad?!

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Balrog0
10/03/19 12:11:27 AM
#43:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
does the jazz hand crowd really think they're going to undermine the most successful political movement in human history?


I dunno, like I said a few times the DSA rep was only one example of who was there on the panel to illustrate the kind of people at the table. The initiative to undermine neoliberalism was driven more by the head of this think tank that's composed of researchers and analysts. My take is that they are less socialist than attempting to move past old economic narratives (if you're a socialist you don't need a new project to undermine neoliberalism, you already have that)

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Webmaster4531
10/03/19 12:12:08 AM
#44:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Mexico is doing really great huh?

Well I mean not everyone can be as huge a success story as Venezuela and Cuba but yeah they're doing pretty good all things considered

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Mexico/Venezuela/Economy
https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Cuba/Mexico/Economy

Never been to a comparison site like this. Mexico does absolutely destroy Venezuela but Cuba is doing pretty well for being half an island.
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pls
10/03/19 12:13:01 AM
#45:


Balrog0 posted...
if you're a socialist you don't need a new project to undermine neoliberalism, you already have that


Wrong. Socialism has failed catastrophically every time it has been tried. Show me the long-running socialist nation.

Too much of what Marx said is deprecated because of globalism and technology. We need something new entirely, but socialism is not the answer either.
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Webmaster4531
10/03/19 12:13:54 AM
#46:


pls posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
pls posted...
Really weird how you intentionally try to stoke connections to Nazi Germany but remain completely silent about the death camps in China right now, where people are sent as prisoners and their organs harvested.

You can oppose the bad conditions at the border without being dishonest about the parallels to Nazi Germany.

I'll vote out the Chinese President when I get the chance. Why do you want me to pretend American concentration camps aren't concentration camps?


Dude I'm not even going to waste time entertaining this bullshit that you are so desperate to cling to as a GOTCHA or w/e you think it is. Tens of thousands of people each month are not flocking into the country just to land in a Nazi concentration camp.

At least answer why do you want me to pretend American concentration camps aren't concentration camps?


Why are you saying America has Nazi concentration camps?

Ctrl + F Nazi. Never said Nazi.


Ex-fucking-actly. Boom. You just admitted blatantly that you know exactly what you are trying to do. You are being really fucking dishonest by trying to evoke images of Nazi Germany's death camps.

Get outta here kid.

Now answer my question. Why do you want me to pretend American concentration camps aren't concentration camps?
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Tmaster148
10/03/19 12:14:05 AM
#47:


pls posted...
Balrog0 posted...
if you're a socialist you don't need a new project to undermine neoliberalism, you already have that


Wrong. Socialism has failed catastrophically every time it has been tried. Show me the long-running socialist nation.

Too much of what Marx said is deprecated because of globalism and technology. We need something new entirely, but socialism is not the answer either.


Proudclad doing the thing where he thinks socialism and communism is the same thing.
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Broseph_Stalin
10/03/19 12:49:41 AM
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Godnorgosh posted...
society where profit is no longer the prime directive of production.

yes lets do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result what could go wrong?
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pls
10/03/19 1:18:34 AM
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Fully automated luxury gay space communism
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