Board 8 > Zelda continues to play Danganronpa (spoilers)

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Probably. Not sure how my free time will be though. We are approaching end of semester.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

hope she is less bland than the first two.

Oh, you're talking about Makoto and Hajimeme

I was just gonna say "I thought you loved Kyoko and Chiaki!"

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Well, if youve seen the DRV3 characters, I want to see what you think their talents are.
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It's an opening, it's hard to make sense of it.

I guess there wa a tennis player who looks like that doll from DBZ, a waiter and what seemed to be another baseball player. Other than that I don't remember.

Don't wanna watch the opening multiple times to figure out either. Looks like the path to being spoilered.

Yeah you can probably just give your guesses about talents while you're meeting them in game
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Kaede is my favorite character in the franchise.
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Despair 6

Darth Hajime is born. And apparently his hair grew the equivallent of months during the surgery, because evilness makes your hair long. And red eyes, too. Because.

They are talking about how he'll increase the hope of the world. Because apparently more talent = more hope. You know, maybe this world actually deserved to be destroyed by Junko.

The opening's color scheme seems to have changed. It's more blue and less pink now.

Fuyu's plot to nnot let people know he knows Peko has backfired spetacularly. Now they are all shipping the two. It might be better to just reveal it at this point.

Tall!Hiyoko is hard to get used to. Though she's stll a bitch.

Boxer is also in love with Chisa, though she likes VP instead. So he can only help her and root for her. This might be the first time I actually like Boxer in this show.

Chisa is wearing a cap to disguise herself. Because wearing a cap in a building full of suits is not conspicuous at all.

Hey Chisa, you're not going to close the door before spying on someone's room? This is basic.

A member of the council has mysteriously disappeared. I'm thinking it has something to do with Hajime, but next scene we see him tied and gagged in a pink bunny suit while Junko prepares to stick a spoon into his eye and one of Monokuma's execution songs play. I love this series.

Juno and Mukuro murder a bunch of security guards and reach Hajime. The Tragedy begins.

VP-kun is already seeing the possible consequences of the Hajime thing before anyone else. He really is a fearsome opponent to the Despair side. If he only used those that intelligence to get things done instead of impale random elderlies. He could learn a thing or two from Byakuya.

Mukuro: "Junko-chan, he could be dangerous". Girl, I'm pretty sure he's not the most dangerous person in this room.

Okay, he knocked down Mukuro with one move. He's physically the most dangerous, for certain. But I think Junko saw that coming.

Junko's rethoric is so good I'm almost convinced by it myself. She makes a strong point that a world full of "Hope" can also be a predictable and lifeless world. It's no wonder she converted so many people to her side. She gets the irresistible allure of chaos, and knows how to make others see it.

Darth Hajime has joined the party. <Paper Mario music plays>

Animator-kun randomly bumps into Junko. Now that's a random encounter. Wonder how she'll use him.

This show is now The Junko Show and I approve of it. She keeps getting more interesting at each installment.

Despair 7 is my favorite episode of the entire bunch. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
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I'm almost playing UDG before V3 just so I can have it be the Part 3 thread and then call the next thread "Part V3".

A friend of mine is hosting a DR1 mafia game. I just signed up. If anyone wants to play, here's the link.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?f=258&p=557702

Those roles look really fun.
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Future 7 - aka UDG Trailer

Green Junko is making a speech. She is not as cools regular Junko, but she is trying.

Why is every kid a primary schooler now? Is that a new category of Ultimates I wasn't aware of? Amazing.

The scene with Toko and Mako's sister shooting Monokumas made me want to play UDG. I guess we are getting a whole UDG-themed episode now?

lmao at Toko's shoujo Byakuya fantasy. And of course it has sex. Because it's Toko.

The biggest mystery is why Monokuma told the DR3 cast they are broadcasting the game even though they aren't. The version of Monaka's plan that VP thinks is true relies on the world seeing Makoto as the hero. The world is not seeing jack shit, so VP is cluelessly hunting Makoto. Is that part of the plan? How does VP play into this plot, and what is the plot exactly?

Monaka has gundams. Because.

She wants to bring Makoto to despair? Girl, that's impossible. He is a shounen protagonist. His blood is literally made of friendship and cliche speeches. You're better off just puttting a bullet in his head.

She gave up and exploded her castle. Wut?

In the Danganronpa universe, goods are delivered by Darazon.

Monaka decided to give up on evil because she didn want to turn into Nagito. This is amazing. Nagito keeps finding new ways to deliver.

Ok, so Monaka has nothing to do with this show's plot. She's just peeking, that's all. Then who is? The plot thickens. My money is back on either Recruiter or New Kid, because they keep being mysterious.

Someone gun die. Probably Kyoko or Hina, for added tragedy.

And she flies into space, just like that. That's one random end for a villain.

Cool, Makoto's sister's gun can control Monokumas.

Thank you for watching this preview of UDG featuring interesting and likable characters. Now we go back to the regular scheduled programming with the shitty cast.

Despair 7

Never insult a man's anime.

But he brinks Junko into his house. Never bring Pink Hitler into your home.

The kid's anime has brainwashing attributes. That's totally not going to be used for evil, is it.

Gundham can tame bears. Of course. But the trohpy he chose to wear was for taming a pomeranian.

Meanwhile, Based Nagito is stranded on a paradise island after a plane crash. Just a normal day in Komaeda's life.

Ibuki being a shipper is something I wish DR2 had brought up.

The anime could improve a lot of characters, but it can't fix Teruteru.

Mikan bumps into Mukuro. Run Mikan, run!

Rotating Eyes Junko is my new favorite meme. I hope it's a meme.

So Darth Hajime did not kill the student council. He just watched it while they played a nice little game of Danganronpa. That's the change in canon people were complaining about? It's somewhat off-putting because it doesn't leave much to Darth Hajime's character, but on the other hand, this was a very cool scene.

Ok, he killed the last one. In self-defense. That's better than nothing, I guess.

The school, again, tried to hide everything. Because that's the only thing they can do, try and fail to save their asses. But Junko has different plans. She posts everything online, and so, the Worst, Most Tragic Event in Human History begins.

Oh she blames Darth Hajime for it. That's alright, makes more sense.

Poor Chiaki just found out her man is a sith. Will she manage to save him, or will she have the same end as Padm?

Cool episode. I like how incredibly gory the murder scene was. And with Mukuro singing an anime song during the whole thing, no less. Reminds me of Kingsman.

The English dub has the single best line in anime history in that episode.
ZeldaTPLink posted...

Never insult a man's anime.

For this part, Junko exclaims something like "Omigod, he's getting all butthurt cuz I dissed his waifus!"

Also, the entire scene with the student council is perfectly indicative of what DR is all about. Two students are getting skewered with a sword and a shovel while a freckled high school girl holds a piece of paper in front of her with completely outstretched arms, singing a hymn about angels or whatever.
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Thats definitely the best episode of the whole series.

Poor Pikachu girl didn't deserve what happened to her

Also yes they teased UDG tying into the plot for like 5 episodes and then Monaka just went 'lol cya suckers' and blasted off into space. .-.

Really dumb.

It's dumb, but give me a whodunnit mystery over what we were getting so far any time. I was worried the reveal the killer was some random nutjob from outside would cheapen the climax.

Now we may have a real betrayal story in our hands.

Then again, maybe they could have just skipped Monaka altogether and went with the betrayal story from the start.

For the record, that's not the change people are upset about.
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Raka_Putra posted...

For the record, that's not the change people are upset about.

Also yeah this

Though admittedly it does kind of cheapen Izuru's bit in DR2 slightly but its fairly forgivable all things considered.

I liked how in that scene the couple just casually decided "We'll just kill each other" in an almost romantic way.

Too bad the dude with the chainsaw had different plans.
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Dark Young Link posted...

I liked how in that scene the couple just casually decided "We'll just kill each other" in an almost romantic way.

Too bad the dude with the chainsaw had different plans.

Nah it was the shovel dude.

Oh right, been a while.

Chainsaw guy was the one who got wrecked by Izuru.
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Future 8

Flashback. Recruiter and some other teacher are fighting a war in front of HPA. Teacher gets vaporized by a canon. Recruiter says "Kyoko-chan". Hmm.

Seems like the pre-DR1 months of the Tragedy was pretty rough, could make for an interesting anime/novel/whatever.

I thought Therapist-bot would count as the Case 3 execution since it's not being operated anymore, but the opening is still showing 10 people alive.

Hiro was saved by Byakuya. He literally played the game without playing the game.

Makoto tries to run from Therapist-bot and runs into VP. With one eye covered and the other one black. Fuck fuck fuck.

Therapist-bot activates Berserker Mode to fight VP who has a flaming sword. This is amazing.

Recruiter seems to have some oath to protect Kyoko so my main suspect is shifting to New Kid.

Recruiter is in the process of revealing some delicious plot, but Boxer-kun appears to ruin everything. Again. The good news is that he is quickly becoming one of the biggest death flag holders in this show. He is basically a copycat of VP for when you need an extra dumbass running around.

Hah! Boxer-kun's forbidden action is punching people. And yet, he still managed to kill Farmer-kun and almost kill Hina.

Seems Boxer-kun once tried to defeat Junko and failed miserably, so he's trying to make it up. But he won't do it by punching things. This is a mystery series. Either you have brains, or GTFO. And Recruiter knows where all the traps in the room are.

Baker tries to kill Kyoko with a booby trap. Recruiter sacrifices himself to save her. That's our Case 3 execution. This show never fails to have dumb plot developments.

So Recruiter was old friends with Kyoko's father for at least a decade, and swore to protect her. Simple, but nice. RIP Recruiter, your plot revelance was short but sweet.

Baker gave Boxer a magical chocolate to turn him into her slave. That's gonna get him to kill himself, isn't it. Never mind, his wrath is biggest than his gluttony. You suck, Baker.

Kyoko is solving the case like a boss. This is still child's stuff compared to the DR games, but since nobody else is doing any detective work, it's cool.

So Baker killed Blacksmith. Took 3 games, but we may have two executions in a Case 3 now. Then again, there's no class trial to execute her, is it? I think the Mastermind will just get rid of her next.

Ah, classic Prisoner's Dillema. If Blacksmith left, Baker would die. But she can trust him because he's her sweetheart, right? Trust him to stay there and risk murder or starvation? No, she couldn't. So she killed him first.

One of Byakuya's men activates a booby trap, and the emtire building goes down. The plot thickens.

Oh man.

Future arc is dumb.
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Recruiter one of the few decent characters in Future arc

Shallow as heck still, but he's ok.

pls don't purge
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Sorry, this anime is not that good so lately I've been putting other nerdy interests in front of it (catching up on Brooklyn 99 and my One Piece reread).

But I'll try to watch more soon.

This arrangement isn't that bad though, because my free time will be crap until the end of the month, when I'll go on uni vacation, so that's an ideal time to start V3 (and have more than one hour a day to play it).

Despair 8

Junko likes to build jigsaw puzzlesjust so she can flip the table and destroy them. Okay.

Seems Mikan is already in love with despair.

The world is shocked by the images of the Tragedy and wants to shut the school down, and I'm here thinking those shady old farts who run the school had it coming.

Animator-kun learns he's being used by Junko. Will he managed to stop her before it's too late? (he won't, wonder who's gonna slaughter him).

Peko is defending the school's side, while Fuyu is not swallowing their BS. Interesting to see the different views. Fuyu remains a top tier character.

Junko kicks Mikan on the ose and the later starts orgasming. Mad.

Animator's moment of resistance lasted only until he ran into Mukuro's business face. Poor kid.

Eh... why does Gundham have 12 hamsters now? And theyre the 12 generals of zodiac! Saint Seiya reference?

Nagito is back! Nobody rejoices. Except the viewer.

Chisa is literally a character in the wrong genre. Poor girl.

Imposter becoming an alpha for a few seconds because of Mikan then reverting back once Nagito calls that out is cute.

Nagito randomly opens a secret passage. Because Nagito.

And the secret passage leads to Junko's hideout. Oh shit.

Nagito just outsmaterd Junko like it's nothing. He got Peko to distract Mukuro and is now talking to her as an equal. I love Nagito.

He's like Junko's counterpart for hope. I bet the world ended because she managed to corrupt him.

Now he wants to challenge Junko so she may becoming a villain worth of being fought by the ultimate hope. He's crazy, but he has a point. The reason people like Makoto and Hajime rose to greatness was because an evil like Junko existed.

But he can't defeat Darth Hajime, because the later has luck too. Yes, it's possible to implant luck into a person thorugh brain surgery. #anime

Nagito is shot, but he conveniently has a student book where the bullet hit.

Chiaki recognized her husbando. Prepare for drama.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Eh... why does Gundham have 12 hamsters now? And theyre the 12 generals of zodiac! Saint Seiya reference?

He started Hope's Peak Academy with four, but he bred them. However, since he and the others had their school memories wiped for DR2, he had four again in the simulation.
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What do you suppose will happen to Chiaki?
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Raka_Putra posted...

What do you suppose will happen to Chiaki?

Die, probably.

Save.
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Future 9

Monokuma announces a recap episode and I'm almost clicking the Close button and moving to the next one. But it was just trolling.

The building falls er. The people inside feel a tremor, but just a tremor. Building twist incoming.

Ha! The secret exist was a scam, and they are underwater. Screw you, Boxer-kun.

Both opening songs have grown on me. Still not as cool as the games' openings, but they are solid.

Of course, Kyoko already knew the building twist.

VP is the main suspect. Therefore, it's not him.

Therapist is now Doc Ock. I approve of this development.

VP-kun murders her, though. She was too cool to last.

Why does it look like VP is about to murder Boxer? This would be insane but would make this show more exciting, tbh.

Kyoko was praising Makoto and he was hearing everything. lol. Now kiss.

Makoto is feeling useless, but he has a point. There are no trials here. He's just a target. Who can't move fast.

VP kills Boxer. This was so tragic I even feel bad for him. The cast is now 2x better, but damn.

We see the scene where Baker killed Blacksmith. It's sad. Then Blacksmith kisses her after realizing he's about to die. It's beta as fuck, but I actually appreciate the character for it. Baker will be scarred for life if she makes it. And I'm thinking she actually will, she got one hell of an arc even if it's a sad one.

Kyoko: "no matter what happens with me, never give up hope". Damn girl, don't say things that put a death flag on you.

Baker dies. So much for my theory. At least the show is cleansing terrible characters.

Yep, Kyoko is also dead. Danmit! She was the best girl. Man, I really hate how this cheapens DR1's ending. What is the point of going through that whole ordeal about saving Kyoko if she is wasted by some B-list villain here?

Also holy shit what a traic way to die. Her restriction was basically "if you let Makoto live, you die". And she knew he wasn't going to make it. Should have kissed him, or something, now that I'm thinking about it.

If Makoto can hope his way through this, he's basically a god. Like Hajime, or something.

Also, Recruiter-kun died for nothing. Meh.

FUCK YEAH, he's hoping his way through this.

Okay so the only characters left are three from DR1, VP who is an obvious decoy, and New Kid who has zero role in this story whatsoever. Is there any way the villain can be someone besides New Kid? Unless we are looking at Junko Episode 3: The Return of Pink Hitler.

Despair 9

Last we checked, Chiaki was having her Padm scene, and hr chances of making it aren't much better than Padm's. Will TPLink lose both his best girls in the same sitting?

Chisa throws a fucking fire extinguisher on Junko's head. Atta girl. She will protect HER students, but the rest can go fuck themselves.

Junko is using Chisa as bait to lure her students into a trap. No wonder she is broken in Future Arc. That's tragic.

Junko makes a random dude beheaed himself with a saw, just because she can. If I ever make a top list of villains, remind me to at least give her an honorary mention.

The cast wants to give up, but Chiaki reminds us why she is best girl. Now officially, since Kyoko is dead (fuck you, DR3)

Imposter removes his mask and reveals some random face. LMAO. Kazuichi is like "who the fuck are you".

We learn the school council recommended Junko even though the Headmaster AND Recruiter were against it, then said "okay now she is your business, deal with her". Man, I REALLY want to see all those old farts being give Monokuma-style executions.

VP used to be such a good character. But despair broke him. Not everyone can be Makoto and Hajime.

Chisa is being given the Clockwork Orange treatment. But it's not working. I guess the only thing that can break her is seeing her students break first.

Damn this anime turned gory fast. Chisa being inserted needles in her brain is off-putting.

Darth Hajime is not Ultimate Hope or Despair. He's Ultimate Tedium.

Real!Imposter's way of running is so cartoony I love it.

The DR2 cast runs into an angry mob. Communism can be about as scary as Junko depending on the situation.

Gundham summoning the 12 Generals of Zodiac is the coolest thing I saw this week.

Is it just me or Animator reminds me a little of New Kid? Maybe they are the same guy? Did I miss something obvious?

I just noticed a minor plot hole. How did Imposter notice it was Junko who kidnapped Animator? I don't recall him meeting her.

Animator tries to kill himself after realizing this show is not Bakuman. But he lives.

Boxer's tendency to solve everything through punching might actually be welcome here. Junko doesn't deserve anything less. Alas, we know he'll fail.

Mikan pushes Chiaki into a fake wall.

Why is there a super futuristic looking building under that statue?

The problem of estabilishing Hajime as completely devoid of motivation is that now I don't know what was his motivation to insert AI Junko into the simulation in DR2.

Chisa makes a shady smile as she meets Chiaki.

Episode name: Yukisome Chisa doesn't smile. OH SHI-

Yeah, the Animator and New Kid are the same person. I thought you knew and I figured that's why you were calling him New Kid.

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I mean you'd think them having the same name would have tipped you off <_<

I don't know how you missed Animator = New Kid but thanks for the laugh.
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This is the problem with not using the names for any of the characters
But yes, both "Animator" and "New Kid" are the same person, Ryota Mitarai
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What a twist.
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At some point earlier I decided I wouldn't bother learning those people's names because this cast is terrible. I guess that bit me in the ass.

Well, I did learn some names. Like Munakata. But he keeps sucking so he doesn't get to have me use his name. Same for Mitarai.

Only Chisa gets that honor because she is a great character all around.

But yeah I guess I just didn't pay attention.

tcaz2 posted...

I mean you'd think them having the same name would have tipped you off <_<

When was the last time they use his name in Future, though? Ep. 1?

That kid never does anything that makes him worth interacting with.

He's totally evil.

Future 10

We see a flashback of when Kyoko saved Makoto from the trash, just to make this anime sadder.

Man this opening is really spilerific isn't it.

You know, I like Makoto. Yes, he's bland. But a character this hopeful is necessary in a dark setting like this. Nothing short of Makoto can defeat a nutjob like Munakata after seeing his own girl die. Anyone else besides him or Hajime would break. Or maybe Chisa.

So now Makoto, who can't run, will try to escape from a crazy dude with a katana who can run and just defeated a robot who had rocket launches. I don't see how this can work unless Byakuya shows up or something.

Seems like Kyoko left blood messages before going down. Atta girl.

Water + electricity trap. Classic. But VP has a magic sword. Or something.

Seriously, Makoto? No, you can't beat this guy with a fire extinguisher. You are the Ultimate Lucky Student, not a fighter. A very lousy lucky student who is not Nagito. Then again, you are alive and Nagito is not (though that's his fault, too).

VP can't kill Makoto? What? You killed Boxer-kun ffs.

Wait, is that his condition? Oh Monokuma, you devious bastard.

Oh it's "open doors". It's just silly. But Makoto figured out and used it against him. Clever. Now he is powerless against Makoto's protagonist therapy powers.

VP will talk, but only if he can beat the crap out of Makoto in the meantime. Meh, even DR1 cast wasn't this anti-social.

What the fuck? Did president lie? Was he the masternd? I can't even.

Makoto just proved to VP that he didn't love his girl enough. Ouch.

He broke. First time we see this dude cry since his girlfriend died. Good. This cold demanor was just a facade, after all.

His eyes are magically normal-colored again. Because.

Hina arrives with the Mastermind reveal. New Kid is not with her. She's about to reveal the president. Or someone else. I don't know anymore.

A ship leaves Jabberwock. Ominous.

I think you missed a post credits scene there...?

tcaz2 posted...

I think you missed a post credits scene there...?

The only scene is in Jabberwock.

ah I thought there was a bit more to it than that, might be thinking of an episode later

Despair 10

Last episode, Best Girl Chiaki (now officially!) was in an ominous cyberpunk corridor with Chisa who can smile. Or something like that.

Chisa's eyes have a shade on them. Good to now this universe laws lets you know who is shady more easily.

Boxer-kun was rekt. Yeah, go Junko!

Oh shit, Boxer-kun was in love with VP-kun, not Chisa. That makes his death 2x more tragic, imo.

Boxer-kun, I know you are a terrible character, but even you wouldn't betray your love just to avoid letting him discover you love him, right?

Teruteru would fuck Nagito. I feel like I'd be happier without learning this info. Also this is Danganronpa: Gay Episode, apparently. I'm okay with that, but it's a weird setting for this kind of reveal. Too gory.

I never have too much of Kazuichi's faces. Lmao.

An elevator similar to the ones in the DR games. Ominous.

Chisa has swirly eyes. GTFO, Chiaki, GTFO!

Nagito sees the trap. But he's too weak to do anything. Even then, he continues to be a top tier character.

Oh fuck she's getting a DR-style execution. NonononononoNONONONO! Why must you keep doing this to me, Danganronpa?

This is dark as fuck.

Chiaki was impaled from every direction. After thonking she had finally met her friends. Damn.

The world is dark and sad and without best girls. Only V3 can save us now.

The silver lining is that before going down, Chiaki said she would save them all. And we know she does. This somehow improves DR2's confusing ending by making Chiaki more than just a semi-Mary Sue.

The sheer horror of the scene (and some Mitarai anime magic) drives all the class into despair.

14 people have just been mindfucked beyond salvation and Nagito STILL manages to make less sense than the rest of them.

Junko Enoshima wanted to remake the world to her image. The 2 are now 16 (and a very bored 17th).

An empty courtroom with Monokuma, and someone looking at Chiaki's body. Hmm.

How in nine hells is she still moving?

Chiaki tries to convince Hajime into being good again. Unfortunately this only works in virtual realities.

Gotta give it to Chiaki, she has the tenacity of a shounen protagonist. She lost, what half of her blood? And still trying to get up.

Hajime is crying, and doesn't know why. Chiaki's best girl powers transcend reality and logic.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

The sheer horror of the scene (and some Mitarai anime magic) drives all the class into despair.

This is the main reason why people hate what the DR3 anime did to DR2.

It completely strips all responsibility from the entire cast aside from Hajime (and he still gets much less than what was originally portrayed), and makes Junko way less impressive as a villain. DR2 implied Junko slowly turned each of them to despair by finding their weaknesses and exploiting them, whereas DR3 shows 'lol she just mind controlled them all to be evil!'

It makes a very interesting twist that gives the DR2 characters a lot more depth almost completely void.

I love Junko. I loved the idea that she was so cunning, so charming that she turned people to her side. But nope, it was brainwashing. It's lame
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This is what pissed you guys off?

I agree Junko would be cooler if she had manually brainwashed them one by one, but if anything this show has increased her OP-ness even further compared to what we knew before.

Early on she lampshaded that she doesn't know how to brainwash people, but she is so cunning, so resourceful and so insane that she created a crazy plan that in the end made it happen. She seems omnipresent and omniscient despite not having an army of Monokumas yet. She controls every moving part in the school. The brainwashing was just the icing on the cake.

I dunno the complaint feels pretty minor to me.

The thing I actually didn't like about this show is how Hajime's presence feels completely shoehorned in. It makes him seem less evil than everyone in the Despair group. Which is different from the portrayal we had from DR2. Albeit technically most of that portrayal was from Junko's mouth, so she could be lying.