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Ic3Bullet
09/13/19 8:35:09 AM
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Which is the minimum requirement for being considered Alt Right? - Results (15 votes)
Disagrees with the far Left
40% (6 votes)
6
Being left-of-center
0% (0 votes)
0
Is a Centrist
13.33% (2 votes)
2
Is a Conservative
0% (0 votes)
0
Is a Trump Supporter
6.67% (1 vote)
1
Agrees with all things Trump
20% (3 votes)
3
Sometimes tells racist/sexist/homophobic jokes
0% (0 votes)
0
Is proud to be a straight white male (or is a non-SWM who glorifies SWMs)
0% (0 votes)
0
Believes straight white males are the most oppressed group in America
13.33% (2 votes)
2
Thinks having spiteful views of minorities, women and LGBT are just political opinions
6.67% (1 vote)
1
I tried to put them in order from, based on my observations, least-alt-right to most-alt-right, but some were hard to place on a spectrum.
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Hicks233
09/13/19 8:48:06 AM
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Ascribes to identitarian politics with a focus on race and ethnicity. Communicates and exists primarily within online spaces. Policy platform and interests are an inverse of what would loosely be described as "progressive" politics - essentially identitarian left stances - two sides of the same coin.

Religion/Economics/Foreign policy issues largely get ignored in favour of a slavish devotion to identity politics.
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Middle hope
09/13/19 8:49:09 AM
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According to the internet, if you are anything short of extreme regressive left.

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IShall_Run_Amok
09/13/19 9:26:55 AM
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When they go out of their way to prove they aren't alt right with personal anecdotes about that one time they let a quantity of ethnic minorities use their parents' bathroom.
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Sada_Pop
09/13/19 10:16:26 AM
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Did.... People think that this wouldn't be a troll vote topic? Just checking.
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Umbreon
09/13/19 10:20:19 AM
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On the internet? Usually the people who try to get you to "understand" neo nazis.
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Ic3Bullet
09/13/19 10:21:01 AM
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Sada_Pop posted...
Did.... People think that this wouldn't be a troll vote topic? Just checking.

Id say the poll results are pretty accurate for CE, considering what Ive seen labeled as alt right on here.
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Caution999
09/13/19 10:21:31 AM
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lmfao @ the results

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coh
09/13/19 10:22:11 AM
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The alt-right and far left are really just two sides of the same coin. I mean both of them are obsessed with race and identity.

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Musourenka
09/13/19 10:22:21 AM
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It's not always a line crossed, per se. That being said, I think bigotry and anti-intellectualism are the two biggest signs.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
09/13/19 10:23:08 AM
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The only option there is agreeing with all things Donnie does.
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closetjpopfan
09/13/19 10:35:12 AM
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I think once you start agreeing with all things Trump you're in the danger zone. If you honestly cannot think of any significant criticism of Trump or some of his supporters and you believe their agenda is ultimately beneficial to the country, you may still be a decent human being, but intellectually, politically you're a puppet being co-opted by the movement. Even though you may not know everything that entails, sadly you're alt-right.

To be fair, the same goes for alt-left (not so much about Trump, he's an idiot, but about some of the views of some of his supporters). Neither extreme right nor extreme left are healthy, rational stances.
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FL81
09/13/19 4:44:47 PM
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ModLogic
09/13/19 4:51:39 PM
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when an anon A disagrees with anon B, anon B will identify A as a nazi
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garan
09/13/19 6:17:24 PM
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Sada_Pop posted...
Did.... People think that this wouldn't be a troll vote topic? Just checking.


No-- we're on CE. Everything is memes & trolling.
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Kensaimage
09/13/19 6:19:56 PM
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Middle hope posted...
According to the internet, if you are anything short of extreme regressive left.


This. Left sure needs their labels
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Tyranthraxus
09/13/19 6:21:42 PM
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I would legitimately put "Agrees with all things trump" at the bottom of the list. At the minimum, it's far worse than sometimes telling a racist joke.

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TheMikh
09/13/19 6:26:27 PM
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Pre-2016 definition: they subscribe to any rightist school of thought that isn't neoconservatism, fusionism, or boomerconservatism

Post-2016 definition: they advocate racial separation and often harbor antisemitic viewpoints
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Gafemage
09/13/19 6:43:55 PM
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Didnt read the poll options, but basically almost never since its a dated term; the only reason it gained traction in the first place was because it was a self-applied label for a movement that was largely prevalent at the time but essentially dead now.
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ASithLord7
09/13/19 6:46:37 PM
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Gafemage posted...
Didnt read the poll options, but basically almost never since its a dated term; the only reason it gained traction in the first place was because it was a self-applied label for a movement that was largely prevalent at the time but essentially dead now.

Is this a joke?
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Kazi1212
09/13/19 6:46:50 PM
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So if someone disagrees with the far left theyre alt right? Really CE, no wonder I thought this place was infested with far left users.
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Gafemage
09/13/19 6:55:41 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Gafemage posted...
Didnt read the poll options, but basically almost never since its a dated term; the only reason it gained traction in the first place was because it was a self-applied label for a movement that was largely prevalent at the time but essentially dead now.

Is this a joke?

No. Far-right conservatism is just as prevalent in the US now as it was in 2016, but the alt-right itself is basically dead with how much mainstream conservatism has moved the right following Trumps election. Nobody identifies as alt-right anymore.
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Ic3Bullet
09/13/19 7:23:37 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
So if someone disagrees with the far left theyre alt right? Really CE, no wonder I thought this place was infested with far left users.

I feel like a lot of the people who voted for that option THINK they were joking. But although I've never specifically been called Alt Right on here, I was told by several users the other day that I'm not a liberal because I was defending a famous conservative commentator when people were saying she is pro-Hitler.

Joe Rogan and Dave Chappelle are both clearly liberals, yet people on this board call them Alt Right. So even the "joke" poll results probably reflect the opinions of this board more than you think.
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ASithLord7
09/13/19 7:25:47 PM
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Ic3Bullet posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
So if someone disagrees with the far left theyre alt right? Really CE, no wonder I thought this place was infested with far left users.

I feel like a lot of the people who voted for that option THINK they were joking. But although I've never specifically been called Alt Right on here, I was told by several users the other day that I'm not a liberal because I was defending a famous conservative commentator when people were saying she is pro-Hitler.

Joe Rogan and Dave Chappelle are both clearly liberals, yet people on this board call them Alt Right. So even the "joke" poll results probably reflect the opinions of this board more than you think.

You mean when she was saying that if Hitler had kept his genocidal ambitions contained to Germant everything wouldve been hunky dory
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Ic3Bullet
09/13/19 7:27:50 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
You mean when she was saying that if Hitler had kept his genocidal ambitions contained to Germant everything wouldve been hunky dory

That's not what she was saying and I'm not participating in that argument again.
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JBaLLEN66
09/13/19 7:29:08 PM
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Bottom 3, but add agnostic or atheism(unless they are bashing Muslims and saying the west is the best)
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ASithLord7
09/13/19 7:41:28 PM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
Bottom 3, but add agnostic or atheism(unless they are bashing Muslims and saying the west is the best)

What if they deny the Holocaust
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Ic3Bullet
09/13/19 7:42:56 PM
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LOL what? I've never seen agnosticism or atheism associated with the Alt Right.
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HollowKnail
09/13/19 7:43:45 PM
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If they either go to or support White Nationalism online, or say "they have a point you know" not out of ignorance of the bigger picture, but because you want to be on that side.
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Big_Gold
09/13/19 8:13:56 PM
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I always thought it was just right wing conspiracy buffs; they believe alternative news.

But now it seems to be used as a perjorative to trash anyone that is right of center.
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TheMikh
09/13/19 9:09:25 PM
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Ic3Bullet posted...
LOL what? I've never seen agnosticism or atheism associated with the Alt Right.

this

while a segment partakes in bashing christianity, which is a classic pastime of atheists in western countries, those who do it among the alt-right tend to be neopagans or radical traditionalists a la evola
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TheMikh
09/13/19 9:17:54 PM
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Big_Gold posted...
I always thought it was just right wing conspiracy buffs; they believe alternative news.

But now it seems to be used as a perjorative to trash anyone that is right of center.

while the alt-right indulges in and circulates alternative news, and believes in conspiracy theories, the label does not explicitly refer to that

there are right wingers with such an inclination that wouldn't be considered alt-right - garden variety boomercons circulating and consuming qanon drivel on facebook and twitter, for instance

i should note, however, that there's an overlap, but their sources differ dramatically (aside from screencaps of posts from 8chan with respect to qanon conspiracy theorists)
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