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legendary_zell 09/02/19 1:38:25 PM #251:	You pro-spanking people are absolutely embarrassing yourselves in this topic. You have been asked repeatedly, to post one, ONE measly source supporting your anecdote based opinions and you refuse to. Instead, you post the same debunked opinions let me go through them and dismiss them one by one so I know if they're used again, you're a robot. 1. Spanking is different from beating. This sounds like common sense, but there is no evidence for this. Both are violent responses, both are temporary fixes, both have been shown to have no positive effect. People in the past would have said with no evidence that beating was necessary, now since it's socially unacceptable, people draw arbitrary distinctions between undefined terms. The difference is how negatively you are impacting the child, there is no positive side here. 2. Not spanking means not disciplining. Not true. There's an infinite amount of things you can do before spanking. If your child is not listening, you are either not modeling the right behavior, not speaking to them in the right way, not responding with the right non-violent intervention or they need psychological help. That's harder and more expensive than simply losing your cool and hitting a child, but it's is surely a more direct way of fixing what's wrong. The key is researching age appropriate, peer reviewed parenting strategies and putting them into practice rather than relying on the gut or folk wisdom. Then getting help if that doesn't work. 3. I was spanked and I turned out fine/people aren't spanked and they are not fine. This is purely anecdotal evidence. Many people are spanked and do not end up fine. Incarcerated people were probably far more likely to have been spanked than not. It didn't help because spanking doesn't treat underlying issues. Lots of people experience negative consequences from spanking. You may feel that it helped you, but that is a cultural belief, not a data based one. You have no idea what you would have been like if you weren't spanked but instead got an effective non-violent intervention. And past generations that were spanked more were not better, they were more violent, more criminal, and bigger assholes all around. Again, please, pretty please, someone post a peer reviewed study showing that any form of spanking is effective or I will be forced to assume you guys are simply perpetuating a cultural practice you were taught. --- https://imgur.com/0Bi86cp <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:926864055] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>You pro-spanking people are absolutely embarrassing yourselves in this topic. You have been asked repeatedly, to post one, ONE measly source supporting your anecdote based opinions and you refuse to. Instead, you post the same debunked opinions let me go through them and dismiss them one by one so I know if they're used again, you're a robot. 1. Spanking is different from beating. This sounds like common sense, but there is no evidence for this. Both are violent responses, both are temporary fixes, both have been shown to have no positive effect. People in the past would have said with no evidence that beating was necessary, now since it's socially unacceptable, people draw arbitrary distinctions between undefined terms. The difference is how negatively you are impacting the child, there is no positive side here. 2. Not spanking means not disciplining. Not true. There's an infinite amount of things you can do before spanking. If your child is not listening, you are either not modeling the right behavior, not speaking to them in the right way, not responding with the right non-violent intervention or they need psychological help. That's harder and more expensive than simply losing your cool and hitting a child, but it's is surely a more direct way of fixing what's wrong. The key is researching age appropriate, peer reviewed parenting strategies and putting them into practice rather than relying on the gut or folk wisdom. Then getting help if that doesn't work. 3. I was spanked and I turned out fine/people aren't spanked and they are not fine. This is purely anecdotal evidence. Many people are spanked and do not end up fine. Incarcerated people were probably far more likely to have been spanked than not. It didn't help because spanking doesn't treat underlying issues. Lots of people experience negative consequences from spanking. You may feel that it helped you, but that is a cultural belief, not a data based one. You have no idea what you would have been like if you weren't spanked but instead got an effective non-violent intervention. And past generations that were spanked more were not better, they were more violent, more criminal, and bigger assholes all around. Again, please, pretty please, someone post a peer reviewed study showing that any form of spanking is effective or I will be forced to assume you guys are simply perpetuating a cultural practice you were taught.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alakazamtrainer 09/02/19 2:49:29 PM #252:	https://time.com/3387226/spanking-can-be-an-appropriate-form-of-child-discipline/ --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/alakazamtrainer/ friend me on steam also Alakazam will always triumph! <cite>Alakazamtrainer posted [p:926867215] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>https://time.com/3387226/spanking-can-be-an-appropriate-form-of-child-discipline/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 09/02/19 2:51:41 PM #253:	Bold strategy, posting the same link that multiple people have already torn apart ITT Lets see if it pays off --- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:926867297] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Bold strategy, posting the same link that multiple people have already torn apart ITT Lets see if it pays off </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HasaDiga 09/02/19 2:52:01 PM #254:	legendary_zell posted... You pro-spanking people are absolutely embarrassing yourselves in this topic. You have been asked repeatedly, to post one, ONE measly source supporting your anecdote based opinions and you refuse to. Instead, you post the same debunked opinions let me go through them and dismiss them one by one so I know if they're used again, you're a robot. 1. Spanking is different from beating. This sounds like common sense, but there is no evidence for this. Both are violent responses, both are temporary fixes, both have been shown to have no positive effect. People in the past would have said with no evidence that beating was necessary, now since it's socially unacceptable, people draw arbitrary distinctions between undefined terms. The difference is how negatively you are impacting the child, there is no positive side here. 2. Not spanking means not disciplining. Not true. There's an infinite amount of things you can do before spanking. If your child is not listening, you are either not modeling the right behavior, not speaking to them in the right way, not responding with the right non-violent intervention or they need psychological help. That's harder and more expensive than simply losing your cool and hitting a child, but it's is surely a more direct way of fixing what's wrong. The key is researching age appropriate, peer reviewed parenting strategies and putting them into practice rather than relying on the gut or folk wisdom. Then getting help if that doesn't work. 3. I was spanked and I turned out fine/people aren't spanked and they are not fine. This is purely anecdotal evidence. Many people are spanked and do not end up fine. Incarcerated people were probably far more likely to have been spanked than not. It didn't help because spanking doesn't treat underlying issues. Lots of people experience negative consequences from spanking. You may feel that it helped you, but that is a cultural belief, not a data based one. You have no idea what you would have been like if you weren't spanked but instead got an effective non-violent intervention. And past generations that were spanked more were not better, they were more violent, more criminal, and bigger assholes all around. Again, please, pretty please, someone post a peer reviewed study showing that any form of spanking is effective or I will be forced to assume you guys are simply perpetuating a cultural practice you were taught. Everyone needs to look out for this word. The words that come after are usually pulled out of the person's ass. <cite>HasaDiga posted [p:926867311] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>You pro-spanking people are absolutely embarrassing yourselves in this topic. You have been asked repeatedly, to post one, ONE measly source supporting your anecdote based opinions and you refuse to. Instead, you post the same debunked opinions let me go through them and dismiss them one by one so I know if they're used again, you're a robot. 1. Spanking is different from beating. This sounds like common sense, but there is no evidence for this. Both are violent responses, both are temporary fixes, both have been shown to have no positive effect. People in the past would have said with no evidence that beating was necessary, now since it's socially unacceptable, people draw arbitrary distinctions between undefined terms. The difference is how negatively you are impacting the child, there is no positive side here. 2. Not spanking means not disciplining. Not true. There's an infinite amount of things you can do before spanking. If your child is not listening, you are either not modeling the right behavior, not speaking to them in the right way, not responding with the right non-violent intervention or they need psychological help. That's harder and more expensive than simply losing your cool and hitting a child, but it's is surely a more direct way of fixing what's wrong. The key is researching age appropriate, peer reviewed parenting strategies and putting them into practice rather than relying on the gut or folk wisdom. Then getting help if that doesn't work. 3. I was spanked and I turned out fine/people aren't spanked and they are not fine. This is purely anecdotal evidence. Many people are spanked and do not end up fine. Incarcerated people were probably far more likely to have been spanked than not. It didn't help because spanking doesn't treat underlying issues. Lots of people experience negative consequences from spanking. You may feel that it helped you, but that is a cultural belief, not a data based one. You have no idea what you would have been like if you weren't spanked but instead got an effective non-violent intervention. And past generations that were spanked more were not better, they were more violent, more criminal, and bigger assholes all around. Again, please, pretty please, someone post a peer reviewed study showing that any form of spanking is effective or I will be forced to assume you guys are simply perpetuating a cultural practice you were taught.</quote> Everyone needs to look out for this word. The words that come after are usually pulled out of the person's ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
alimajor 09/02/19 2:59:47 PM #255:	legendary_zell posted... You pro-spanking people are absolutely embarrassing yourselves in this topic. You have been asked repeatedly, to post one, ONE measly source supporting your anecdote based opinions and you refuse to. Instead, you post the same debunked opinions let me go through them and dismiss them one by one so I know if they're used again, you're a robot. 1. Spanking is different from beating. This sounds like common sense, but there is no evidence for this. Both are violent responses, both are temporary fixes, both have been shown to have no positive effect. People in the past would have said with no evidence that beating was necessary, now since it's socially unacceptable, people draw arbitrary distinctions between undefined terms. The difference is how negatively you are impacting the child, there is no positive side here. 2. Not spanking means not disciplining. Not true. There's an infinite amount of things you can do before spanking. If your child is not listening, you are either not modeling the right behavior, not speaking to them in the right way, not responding with the right non-violent intervention or they need psychological help. That's harder and more expensive than simply losing your cool and hitting a child, but it's is surely a more direct way of fixing what's wrong. The key is researching age appropriate, peer reviewed parenting strategies and putting them into practice rather than relying on the gut or folk wisdom. Then getting help if that doesn't work. 3. I was spanked and I turned out fine/people aren't spanked and they are not fine. This is purely anecdotal evidence. Many people are spanked and do not end up fine. Incarcerated people were probably far more likely to have been spanked than not. It didn't help because spanking doesn't treat underlying issues. Lots of people experience negative consequences from spanking. You may feel that it helped you, but that is a cultural belief, not a data based one. You have no idea what you would have been like if you weren't spanked but instead got an effective non-violent intervention. And past generations that were spanked more were not better, they were more violent, more criminal, and bigger assholes all around. Again, please, pretty please, someone post a peer reviewed study showing that any form of spanking is effective or I will be forced to assume you guys are simply perpetuating a cultural practice you were taught. It sounds like you already have your mind made up. So I recommend this, go have two kids spank one and dont spank the other and then let us know in 25 years how they turned out. <cite>alimajor posted [p:926867667] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>You pro-spanking people are absolutely embarrassing yourselves in this topic. You have been asked repeatedly, to post one, ONE measly source supporting your anecdote based opinions and you refuse to. Instead, you post the same debunked opinions let me go through them and dismiss them one by one so I know if they're used again, you're a robot. 1. Spanking is different from beating. This sounds like common sense, but there is no evidence for this. Both are violent responses, both are temporary fixes, both have been shown to have no positive effect. People in the past would have said with no evidence that beating was necessary, now since it's socially unacceptable, people draw arbitrary distinctions between undefined terms. The difference is how negatively you are impacting the child, there is no positive side here. 2. Not spanking means not disciplining. Not true. There's an infinite amount of things you can do before spanking. If your child is not listening, you are either not modeling the right behavior, not speaking to them in the right way, not responding with the right non-violent intervention or they need psychological help. That's harder and more expensive than simply losing your cool and hitting a child, but it's is surely a more direct way of fixing what's wrong. The key is researching age appropriate, peer reviewed parenting strategies and putting them into practice rather than relying on the gut or folk wisdom. Then getting help if that doesn't work. 3. I was spanked and I turned out fine/people aren't spanked and they are not fine. This is purely anecdotal evidence. Many people are spanked and do not end up fine. Incarcerated people were probably far more likely to have been spanked than not. It didn't help because spanking doesn't treat underlying issues. Lots of people experience negative consequences from spanking. You may feel that it helped you, but that is a cultural belief, not a data based one. You have no idea what you would have been like if you weren't spanked but instead got an effective non-violent intervention. And past generations that were spanked more were not better, they were more violent, more criminal, and bigger assholes all around. Again, please, pretty please, someone post a peer reviewed study showing that any form of spanking is effective or I will be forced to assume you guys are simply perpetuating a cultural practice you were taught.</quote> It sounds like you already have your mind made up. So I recommend this, go have two kids spank one and dont spank the other and then let us know in 25 years how they turned out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/02/19 3:06:13 PM #256:	alimajor posted... It sounds like you already have your mind made up. So I recommend this, go have two kids spank one and dont spank the other and then let us know in 25 years how they turned out. fortunately, you don't need to do this. there are already many large studies based on data similar to this. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926867997] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>alimajor posted...</cite> <quote>It sounds like you already have your mind made up. So I recommend this, go have two kids spank one and dont spank the other and then let us know in 25 years how they turned out.</quote> fortunately, you don't need to do this. there are already many large studies based on data similar to this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 09/02/19 3:11:59 PM #257:	HasaDiga posted... legendary_zell posted... You pro-spanking people are absolutely embarrassing yourselves in this topic. You have been asked repeatedly, to post one, ONE measly source supporting your anecdote based opinions and you refuse to. Instead, you post the same debunked opinions let me go through them and dismiss them one by one so I know if they're used again, you're a robot. 1. Spanking is different from beating. This sounds like common sense, but there is no evidence for this. Both are violent responses, both are temporary fixes, both have been shown to have no positive effect. People in the past would have said with no evidence that beating was necessary, now since it's socially unacceptable, people draw arbitrary distinctions between undefined terms. The difference is how negatively you are impacting the child, there is no positive side here. 2. Not spanking means not disciplining. Not true. There's an infinite amount of things you can do before spanking. If your child is not listening, you are either not modeling the right behavior, not speaking to them in the right way, not responding with the right non-violent intervention or they need psychological help. That's harder and more expensive than simply losing your cool and hitting a child, but it's is surely a more direct way of fixing what's wrong. The key is researching age appropriate, peer reviewed parenting strategies and putting them into practice rather than relying on the gut or folk wisdom. Then getting help if that doesn't work. 3. I was spanked and I turned out fine/people aren't spanked and they are not fine. This is purely anecdotal evidence. Many people are spanked and do not end up fine. Incarcerated people were probably far more likely to have been spanked than not. It didn't help because spanking doesn't treat underlying issues. Lots of people experience negative consequences from spanking. You may feel that it helped you, but that is a cultural belief, not a data based one. You have no idea what you would have been like if you weren't spanked but instead got an effective non-violent intervention. And past generations that were spanked more were not better, they were more violent, more criminal, and bigger assholes all around. Again, please, pretty please, someone post a peer reviewed study showing that any form of spanking is effective or I will be forced to assume you guys are simply perpetuating a cultural practice you were taught. Everyone needs to look out for this word. The words that come after are usually pulled out of the person's ass. I've already seen studies showing that spanking is associated with increased aggression and that the fall in rates of spanking is associated with decreases in crime. I didn't have data specifically indicating that point, so I didn't act like I knew it for a fact. It would be nice if pro-spanking people could follow my lead. @alimajor My mind is actually not made up. In my culture, spanking is done as a matter of course and my parents spanked me. It would be better if what they did and what many many American parents do turned out to be neutral or positive. I'd be inclined to believe spanking was okay if I'd ever seen evidence that it was. If anyone could show me that. But it's never happened once. You seem to be telling me to run my own experiment, but at the same time, you're ignoring the results of all the actual experiments and studies done by actual scientists. Even if I did exactly what you're saying that would be an anecdote, not proof of anything. Is the problem here a lack of scientific literacy? Are you just not aware of the difference between anecdote and a repeatable scientific result? --- https://imgur.com/0Bi86cp <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:926868235] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>HasaDiga posted...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>You pro-spanking people are absolutely embarrassing yourselves in this topic. You have been asked repeatedly, to post one, ONE measly source supporting your anecdote based opinions and you refuse to. Instead, you post the same debunked opinions let me go through them and dismiss them one by one so I know if they're used again, you're a robot. 1. Spanking is different from beating. This sounds like common sense, but there is no evidence for this. Both are violent responses, both are temporary fixes, both have been shown to have no positive effect. People in the past would have said with no evidence that beating was necessary, now since it's socially unacceptable, people draw arbitrary distinctions between undefined terms. The difference is how negatively you are impacting the child, there is no positive side here. 2. Not spanking means not disciplining. Not true. There's an infinite amount of things you can do before spanking. If your child is not listening, you are either not modeling the right behavior, not speaking to them in the right way, not responding with the right non-violent intervention or they need psychological help. That's harder and more expensive than simply losing your cool and hitting a child, but it's is surely a more direct way of fixing what's wrong. The key is researching age appropriate, peer reviewed parenting strategies and putting them into practice rather than relying on the gut or folk wisdom. Then getting help if that doesn't work. 3. I was spanked and I turned out fine/people aren't spanked and they are not fine. This is purely anecdotal evidence. Many people are spanked and do not end up fine. Incarcerated people were probably far more likely to have been spanked than not. It didn't help because spanking doesn't treat underlying issues. Lots of people experience negative consequences from spanking. You may feel that it helped you, but that is a cultural belief, not a data based one. You have no idea what you would have been like if you weren't spanked but instead got an effective non-violent intervention. And past generations that were spanked more were not better, they were more violent, more criminal, and bigger assholes all around. Again, please, pretty please, someone post a peer reviewed study showing that any form of spanking is effective or I will be forced to assume you guys are simply perpetuating a cultural practice you were taught.</quote> Everyone needs to look out for this word. The words that come after are usually pulled out of the person's ass.</quote> I've already seen studies showing that spanking is associated with increased aggression and that the fall in rates of spanking is associated with decreases in crime. I didn't have data specifically indicating that point, so I didn't act like I knew it for a fact. It would be nice if pro-spanking people could follow my lead. @alimajor My mind is actually not made up. In my culture, spanking is done as a matter of course and my parents spanked me. It would be better if what they did and what many many American parents do turned out to be neutral or positive. I'd be inclined to believe spanking was okay if I'd ever seen evidence that it was. If anyone could show me that. But it's never happened once. You seem to be telling me to run my own experiment, but at the same time, you're ignoring the results of all the actual experiments and studies done by actual scientists. Even if I did exactly what you're saying that would be an anecdote, not proof of anything. Is the problem here a lack of scientific literacy? Are you just not aware of the difference between anecdote and a repeatable scientific result?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/02/19 3:23:42 PM #258:	legendary_zell posted... Is the problem here a lack of scientific literacy? Are you just not aware of the difference between anecdote and a repeatable scientific result? I don't think anyone still arguing in favour of spanking is being genuine at this point --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926868712] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>Is the problem here a lack of scientific literacy? Are you just not aware of the difference between anecdote and a repeatable scientific result?</quote> I don't think anyone still arguing in favour of spanking is being genuine at this point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 09/02/19 3:30:49 PM #259:	averagejoel posted... legendary_zell posted... Is the problem here a lack of scientific literacy? Are you just not aware of the difference between anecdote and a repeatable scientific result? I don't think anyone still arguing in favour of spanking is being genuine at this point No, it's even worse than that. They ARE being genuine. This is yet another bad opinion brought about by the combination of conservative cultural norms and lack of scientific education. They're not trolling, they think they're making sense and that we're softies who will let our kids kick us in the shins with no consequences. They think "analyzing" their lives where they "turned out alright" is equivalent to actual research on the subject. --- https://imgur.com/0Bi86cp <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:926868983] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>Is the problem here a lack of scientific literacy? Are you just not aware of the difference between anecdote and a repeatable scientific result?</quote> I don't think anyone still arguing in favour of spanking is being genuine at this point</quote> No, it's even worse than that. They ARE being genuine. This is yet another bad opinion brought about by the combination of conservative cultural norms and lack of scientific education. They're not trolling, they think they're making sense and that we're softies who will let our kids kick us in the shins with no consequences. They think "analyzing" their lives where they "turned out alright" is equivalent to actual research on the subject.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 09/02/19 3:46:30 PM #260:	alimajor posted... It sounds like you already have your mind made up. So I recommend this, go have two kids spank one and dont spank the other and then let us know in 25 years how they turned out. ......................... --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:926869644] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>alimajor posted... </cite> <quote>It sounds like you already have your mind made up. So I recommend this, go have two kids spank one and dont spank the other and then let us know in 25 years how they turned out.</quote>......................... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/02/19 4:06:21 PM #261:	Trickfinger posted... so the poll is tied yet not one of the people voting yes is vocal in this thread. the only guy so far arguing in favor of beatings is an alt. so I'd say that says it all here Maybe because you keep constructing strawman in liue of legitimate construction. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926870494] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote>so the poll is tied yet not one of the people voting yes is vocal in this thread. the only guy so far arguing in favor of beatings is an alt. so I'd say that says it all here </quote> Maybe because you keep constructing strawman in liue of legitimate construction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 09/02/19 4:15:23 PM #262:	Rika_Furude posted... Trickfinger posted... so the poll is tied yet not one of the people voting yes is vocal in this thread. the only guy so far arguing in favor of beatings is an alt. so I'd say that says it all here Maybe because you keep constructing strawman in liue of legitimate construction. what strawman? "hitting" and "spanking" are not two distinct behaviours. one way or another, the people saying otherwise are coming from disinformation --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:926870859] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote>so the poll is tied yet not one of the people voting yes is vocal in this thread. the only guy so far arguing in favor of beatings is an alt. so I'd say that says it all here </quote> Maybe because you keep constructing strawman in liue of legitimate construction.</quote> what strawman? "hitting" and "spanking" are not two distinct behaviours. one way or another, the people saying otherwise are coming from disinformation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pukelid 09/02/19 4:16:45 PM #263:	joel man you seem like a good guy but u cant read troll posts worth a poop --- Hairistotle <cite>Pukelid posted [p:926870921] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>joel man you seem like a good guy but u cant read troll posts worth a poop</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 09/02/19 4:17:19 PM #264:	why are you even replying to a ricky faraday post? --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:926870950] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>why are you even replying to a ricky faraday post? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 09/02/19 4:25:11 PM #265:	averagejoel posted... cuttin_in_farm posted... No it doesnt. yes it does https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers/ cuttin_in_farm posted... I disagree. Now what? your opinion is incorrect. (the source for this is actually the same link) Im not paying for a study right now, but that synopsis doesnt answer the factors I spoke of: cuttin_in_farm posted... Does this child home hop? What attempts are used before spanking? Are you using an item or your hand? What words are accompanied with the spanking? What do you do after? How hard are you even spanking? What event qualifies a spanking? Only one of them (spanking is defined by open hand slap). Again, the act of spanking is not fucking beating. One does not need to be in a fit of rage or leave bruises to spank. Which is what it seems like yall think. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:926871276] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted...</cite> <quote>No it doesnt. </quote> yes it does https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers/ cuttin_in_farm posted...</cite> <quote>I disagree. Now what?</quote> your opinion is incorrect. (the source for this is actually the same link)</quote> Im not paying for a study right now, but that synopsis doesnt answer the factors I spoke of: cuttin_in_farm posted...</cite> <quote>Does this child home hop? What attempts are used before spanking? Are you using an item or your hand? What words are accompanied with the spanking? What do you do after? How hard are you even spanking? What event qualifies a spanking? </quote> Only one of them (spanking is defined by open hand slap). Again, the act of spanking is not fucking beating. One does not need to be in a fit of rage or leave bruises to spank. Which is what it seems like yall think.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
inTaCtfuL 09/02/19 4:30:33 PM #266:	I wonder what people would prefer happen to them if they fuck up something at work. Would you rather have your boss educate you on what you did wrong and yell at you? Or would you guys really prefer them laying their hands on you instead for your mistake? --- i7-3970X Extreme ~ Asus Rampage IV Extreme ~ 32 GB DDR3-2133 ~ 10 TB 7200RPM ~ 500 GB SSD ~ 690 x2 ~ 1200 W PSU Gold ~ <cite>inTaCtfuL posted [p:926871480] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>I wonder what people would prefer happen to them if they fuck up something at work. Would you rather have your boss educate you on what you did wrong and yell at you? Or would you guys really prefer them laying their hands on you instead for your mistake?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk 09/02/19 4:31:41 PM #267:	We're not lower animals --- https://i.imgtc.ws/ZSMkmi1.jpg <cite>RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted [p:926871525] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>We're not lower animals</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 09/02/19 4:32:32 PM #268:	inTaCtfuL posted... I wonder what people would prefer happen to them if they fuck up something at work. Would you rather have your boss educate you on what you did wrong and yell at you? Or would you guys really prefer them laying their hands on you instead for your mistake? this narrative again. some people really don't know what a middle ground is. --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:926871560] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>inTaCtfuL posted... </cite> <quote>I wonder what people would prefer happen to them if they fuck up something at work. Would you rather have your boss educate you on what you did wrong and yell at you? Or would you guys really prefer them laying their hands on you instead for your mistake?</quote>this narrative again. some people really don't know what a middle ground is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/02/19 4:41:00 PM #269:	averagejoel posted... Rika_Furude posted... Trickfinger posted... so the poll is tied yet not one of the people voting yes is vocal in this thread. the only guy so far arguing in favor of beatings is an alt. so I'd say that says it all here Maybe because you keep constructing strawman in liue of legitimate construction. what strawman? "hitting" and "spanking" are not two distinct behaviours. one way or another, the people saying otherwise are coming from disinformation The distinction is the severity. When someone says "beating", that implies far more force and bruising than a spanking which would have just a sting and no bruising --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926871939] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote> Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote> so the poll is tied yet not one of the people voting yes is vocal in this thread. the only guy so far arguing in favor of beatings is an alt. so I'd say that says it all here </quote> Maybe because you keep constructing strawman in liue of legitimate construction. </quote> what strawman? "hitting" and "spanking" are not two distinct behaviours. one way or another, the people saying otherwise are coming from disinformation</quote> The distinction is the severity. When someone says "beating", that implies far more force and bruising than a spanking which would have just a sting and no bruising</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 09/02/19 4:55:39 PM #270:	Rika_Furude posted... The distinction is the severity. When someone says "beating", that implies far more force and bruising than a spanking which would have just a sting and no bruising averagejoel posted... https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers/ --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:926872557] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>The distinction is the severity. When someone says "beating", that implies far more force and bruising than a spanking which would have just a sting and no bruising</quote> averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers/ </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 09/02/19 4:56:14 PM #271:	spanking falls under beating Ricky lmao 100 people voted yes for beating their kids but this guy is the only mouthpiece they can offer. great spokesperson --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:926872576] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>spanking falls under beating Ricky lmao 100 people voted yes for beating their kids but this guy is the only mouthpiece they can offer. great spokesperson </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 09/02/19 4:57:10 PM #272:	Yes. Other people can spank my kids too. If they get way too out of hand, I just sick my pitbull on them. --- Name checks out https://i.imgtc.ws/vBF8odT.png <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:926872610] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Yes. Other people can spank my kids too. If they get way too out of hand, I just sick my pitbull on them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pancake 09/02/19 5:01:16 PM #273:	Is the problem here a lack of scientific literacy? yes. a hundred times yes. Dont hide behind your studies. [...] Studies, to my knowledge, dont cover enough factors. please link a study and dissect it for its methodological flaws. --- https://i.imgtc.com/wKgp7al.gif <cite>Pancake posted [p:926872769] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Is the problem here a lack of scientific literacy? yes. a hundred times yes. Dont hide behind your studies. [...] Studies, to my knowledge, dont cover enough factors. please link a study and dissect it for its methodological flaws.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KeeperOfShadows 09/02/19 5:04:04 PM #274:	Yes --- FFBE GL - 628 117 535 <cite>KeeperOfShadows posted [p:926872877] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Yes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/02/19 5:27:47 PM #275:	scar the 1 posted... Rika_Furude posted... The distinction is the severity. When someone says "beating", that implies far more force and bruising than a spanking which would have just a sting and no bruising averagejoel posted... https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers/ Fair enough. Youve convinced me. I dunno why TC was trying his hardest to incite trolling though. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:926873833] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> The distinction is the severity. When someone says "beating", that implies far more force and bruising than a spanking which would have just a sting and no bruising</quote> averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote> https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers/ </quote></quote> Fair enough. Youve convinced me. I dunno why TC was trying his hardest to incite trolling though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 09/02/19 5:29:42 PM #276:	Rika_Furude posted... Fair enough. Youve convinced me. I dunno why TC was trying his hardest to incite trolling though. It would be par for the course on this board, no? :) --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:926873915] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Fair enough. Youve convinced me. I dunno why TC was trying his hardest to incite trolling though.</quote> It would be par for the course on this board, no? :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 09/02/19 5:33:31 PM #277:	so we all agree. thank god --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:926874100] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>so we all agree. thank god </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fancystopperman 09/02/19 5:34:20 PM #278:	No. Send your child away to a school. I used to be a little shit and whenever I got spanked I did learn my lesson but then I realized my parents couldn't hit me hard and the pain from being spanked was over in a minute. So I stopped learning my lesson. My cousin did something really bad when I was little so my uncle sent him to a boarding school. After my parents realized spanking didn't do anything they made me spend a weekend there and it was the worst weekend of my life. Anytime I did something bad they made me spend my weekend and even some of my school breaks at that hellhole. I never misbehaved again. Send your children to boarding school. Restrictions almost never work and violence gets you sent to jail. --- Deliver the death blow, then. From beyond darkness, I shall strike at you! Someday, vengeance will be mine! <cite>Fancystopperman posted [p:926874140] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>No. Send your child away to a school. I used to be a little shit and whenever I got spanked I did learn my lesson but then I realized my parents couldn't hit me hard and the pain from being spanked was over in a minute. So I stopped learning my lesson. My cousin did something really bad when I was little so my uncle sent him to a boarding school. After my parents realized spanking didn't do anything they made me spend a weekend there and it was the worst weekend of my life. Anytime I did something bad they made me spend my weekend and even some of my school breaks at that hellhole. I never misbehaved again. Send your children to boarding school. Restrictions almost never work and violence gets you sent to jail.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trickfinger 09/02/19 5:35:35 PM #279:	where has anyone ever said something about "restrictions" --- I survived reading guys like you <cite>Trickfinger posted [p:926874197] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>where has anyone ever said something about "restrictions" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fancystopperman 09/02/19 5:37:04 PM #280:	Trickfinger posted... where has anyone ever said something about "restrictions" My bad. I usually see it get discussed whenever a punishment topic gets brought up so I just assumed. I'll edit it. --- Deliver the death blow, then. From beyond darkness, I shall strike at you! Someday, vengeance will be mine! <cite>Fancystopperman posted [p:926874270] in do you guy... [t:77976416]...</cite> <quote>Trickfinger posted...</cite> <quote>where has anyone ever said something about "restrictions" </quote> My bad. I usually see it get discussed whenever a punishment topic gets brought up so I just assumed. I'll edit it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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