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Trickfinger posted...

StealthRock posted...

We get it. Spanking bad.

You happy now??

I get it.

parents feel compelled to beat their kids who are infinitely physically weaker than them.

notice how most parents stop doing this once kids get bigger. because they can fight back. then the parent is forced to discipline their kid the correct way

Whats to stop the bigger stronger child from not listening?

Mom " youre GRounded Tim!!

Tim " oh yea?? Try snd stop me mom, screw you"

*Tim leaves house*
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sometimes I wonder if spanking was invented by people that "like" children if you know what I mean =/

spanking is abuse. full stop
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hockeybub89 posted...

Spanking is bad and I don't care if you "turned out fine"

thank you.

and they only "think" they turned out fine.

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I was only spanked once in my whole life. I didn't turn out "fine".

BobanMarjanovic posted...

would you hit a puppy that was misbehaving?

oooo good question
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Trickfinger posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Spanking is bad and I don't care if you "turned out fine"

thank you.

and they only "think" they turned out fine.

Right. Because and armchair psychologist online knows people better than they know themselves...

any sort of physical pain during childhood will forever scar a child, right..??
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StealthRock posted...

Trickfinger posted...

StealthRock posted...

We get it. Spanking bad.

You happy now??

I get it.

parents feel compelled to beat their kids who are infinitely physically weaker than them.

notice how most parents stop doing this once kids get bigger. because they can fight back. then the parent is forced to discipline their kid the correct way

Whats to stop the bigger stronger child from not listening?

Mom " youre GRounded Tim!!

Tim " oh yea?? Try snd stop me mom, screw you"

*Tim leaves house*

And yet people still stop hitting their children when they get older.

Teenagers have found a way to not develop into delinquents without being spanked.
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averagejoel posted...

spanking is abuse. full stop

So is withholding outside time and putting them in time out
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StealthRock posted...

averagejoel posted...

spanking is abuse. full stop

So is withholding outside time and putting them in time out

that is a separate conversation. we are talking about spanking here. stay on topic
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of course, i will.

also, there's a difference between wanting to hit a 15-year old rebel and a 3 year old toddler.

only one of them makes you a bad parent.
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hockeybub89 posted...

StealthRock posted...

Trickfinger posted...

StealthRock posted...

We get it. Spanking bad.

You happy now??

I get it.

parents feel compelled to beat their kids who are infinitely physically weaker than them.

notice how most parents stop doing this once kids get bigger. because they can fight back. then the parent is forced to discipline their kid the correct way

Whats to stop the bigger stronger child from not listening?

Mom " youre GRounded Tim!!

Tim " oh yea?? Try snd stop me mom, screw you"

*Tim leaves house*

And yet people still stop hitting their children when they get older.

Teenagers have found a way to not develop into delinquents without being spanked.

Not always
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goddammit @Hairistotle you can ignore me if you want but fucking unblock me because I don't dislike you and it's really annoying that you post in almost every topic so it's a 50/50 chance the new post is you. someone quote me so he sees

you want me to quote ya huh. what's it worth to ya
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Pancake posted...

you want me to quote ya huh. what's it worth to ya

I'll give you woodentoaster

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averagejoel posted...

StealthRock posted...

averagejoel posted...

spanking is abuse. full stop

So is withholding outside time and putting them in time out

that is a separate conversation. we are talking about spanking here. stay on topic

I am on topic

Where do we draw the line beween abuse and punishment??
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StealthRock posted...

Trickfinger posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Spanking is bad and I don't care if you "turned out fine"

thank you.

and they only "think" they turned out fine.

Right. Because and armchair psychologist online knows people better than they know themselves...

any sort of physical pain during childhood will forever scar a child, right..??

What is fine? And since when do people always know themselves best? Forget armchair psychologists. Real psychologists don't see a real gain to physical punishment. You probably won't be scarred for life, but it's most likely to have no effect.

When it comes to physical hitting someone the question should be "why" not "why not". Don't show me that you can be spanked and "turn out fine". Show how spanking is the thing that makes people turn out fine. You can smoke and live to be 100. Doesn't mean doctors are going to start recommending cigarettes.
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StealthRock posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

StealthRock posted...

Trickfinger posted...

StealthRock posted...

We get it. Spanking bad.

You happy now??

I get it.

parents feel compelled to beat their kids who are infinitely physically weaker than them.

notice how most parents stop doing this once kids get bigger. because they can fight back. then the parent is forced to discipline their kid the correct way

Whats to stop the bigger stronger child from not listening?

Mom " youre GRounded Tim!!

Tim " oh yea?? Try snd stop me mom, screw you"

*Tim leaves house*

And yet people still stop hitting their children when they get older.

Teenagers have found a way to not develop into delinquents without being spanked.

Not always

And they can get hit and become traumatized or even worse assholes. This is bad way to defend spanking.
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HollowKnail posted...

goddammit @Hairistotle you can ignore me if you want but fucking unblock me because I don't dislike you and it's really annoying that you post in almost every topic so it's a 50/50 chance the new post is you. someone quote me so he sees

He still wont see you even if you are quoted. That's the new system. It also blocks quoted posts.

That Hairistotle guy blocked me as well. Difference is I dont give a shit.
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StealthRock posted...

averagejoel posted...

StealthRock posted...

averagejoel posted...

spanking is abuse. full stop

So is withholding outside time and putting them in time out

that is a separate conversation. we are talking about spanking here. stay on topic

I am on topic

Where do we draw the line beween abuse and punishment??

somewhere that doesn't involve hitting children.
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hockeybub89 posted...

StealthRock posted...

Trickfinger posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Spanking is bad and I don't care if you "turned out fine"

thank you.

and they only "think" they turned out fine.

Right. Because and armchair psychologist online knows people better than they know themselves...

any sort of physical pain during childhood will forever scar a child, right..??

What is fine? And since when do people always know themselves best? Forget armchair psychologists. Real psychologists don't see a real gain to physical punishment. You probably won't be scarred for life, but it's most likely to have no effect.

When it comes to physical hitting someone the question should be "why" not "why not". Don't show me that you can be spanked and "turn out fine". Show how spanking is the thing that makes people turn out fine. You can smoke and live to be 100. Doesn't mean doctors are going to start recommending cigarettes.

Fine means well adjusted, kind, etc. Basically a decent human being.

I would say most people know themselves bests. Pyschologists dont read their clients mind/ subconscious. They respond to cues that people show and get people tp admit things about THEMSELVES that they already knew deep down

Id say the amount of people who were spanked appropriately and turned out fine far out number those who didnt. Unless you are saying most people are pyschologically damaged violent monsters.
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averagejoel posted...

StealthRock posted...

averagejoel posted...

StealthRock posted...

averagejoel posted...

spanking is abuse. full stop

So is withholding outside time and putting them in time out

that is a separate conversation. we are talking about spanking here. stay on topic

I am on topic

Where do we draw the line beween abuse and punishment??

somewhere that doesn't involve hitting children.

what about spanking your teenager disrespectful spawn

averagejoel posted...

StealthRock posted...

averagejoel posted...

StealthRock posted...

averagejoel posted...

spanking is abuse. full stop

So is withholding outside time and putting them in time out

that is a separate conversation. we are talking about spanking here. stay on topic

I am on topic

Where do we draw the line beween abuse and punishment??

somewhere that doesn't involve hitting children.

Not even as a last resort if the child is extremely unruly?
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StealthRock posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

StealthRock posted...

Trickfinger posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Spanking is bad and I don't care if you "turned out fine"

thank you.

and they only "think" they turned out fine.

Right. Because and armchair psychologist online knows people better than they know themselves...

any sort of physical pain during childhood will forever scar a child, right..??

What is fine? And since when do people always know themselves best? Forget armchair psychologists. Real psychologists don't see a real gain to physical punishment. You probably won't be scarred for life, but it's most likely to have no effect.

When it comes to physical hitting someone the question should be "why" not "why not". Don't show me that you can be spanked and "turn out fine". Show how spanking is the thing that makes people turn out fine. You can smoke and live to be 100. Doesn't mean doctors are going to start recommending cigarettes.

Fine means well adjusted, kind, etc. Basically a decent human being.

I would say most people know themselves bests. Pyschologists dont read their clients mind/ subconscious. They respond to cues that people show and get people tp admit things about THEMSELVES that they already knew deep down

Id say the amount of people who were spanked appropriately and turned out fine far out number those who didnt. Unless you are saying most people are pyschologically damaged violent monsters.

You only read half my post. Is spanking what made them fine? Or are they fine despite spanking? Real doctors don't think spanking is always damaging, but at best they find it ineffective with the chance of backfiring. Should we be laying hands on small children if isn't necessary to develop them properly? Why would you touch a child without an absolute guarantee that it is a good thing?
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HollowKnail posted...

goddammit @Hairistotle you can ignore me if you want but fucking unblock me because I don't dislike you and it's really annoying that you post in almost every topic so it's a 50/50 chance the new post is you. someone quote me so he sees

deal.

Not even as a last resort if the child is extremely unruly?

i think most (if not all) parents who use spanking do so as a last resort. it points up your resources as an adult and as a parent how quickly you get to that territory.
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StealthRock posted...

averagejoel posted...

StealthRock posted...

averagejoel posted...

StealthRock posted...

averagejoel posted...

spanking is abuse. full stop

So is withholding outside time and putting them in time out

that is a separate conversation. we are talking about spanking here. stay on topic

I am on topic

Where do we draw the line beween abuse and punishment??

somewhere that doesn't involve hitting children.

Not even as a last resort if the child is extremely unruly?

read the post that you initially quoted again.
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Pancake posted...

HollowKnail posted...

goddammit @Hairistotle you can ignore me if you want but fucking unblock me because I don't dislike you and it's really annoying that you post in almost every topic so it's a 50/50 chance the new post is you. someone quote me so he sees

deal.

Not even as a last resort if the child is extremely unruly?

i think most (if not all) parents who use spanking do so as a last resort. it points up your resources as an adult and as a parent how quickly you get to that territory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbHBBaePxrY" data-time="
heh, no sweat

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2896871/

tl;dr: Harsh spanking is bad. Don't use objects while spanking.

Personally, I wouldn't spank a kid at all but that's outside the scope of this study.
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RoadsterUFO posted...

No, that is reserved for beautiful older women

mmm

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I prefer to just let my children walk all over me and give them everything they want.

Spanking is for stupid people who want stupid kids

Master_Bass posted...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2896871/

tl;dr: Harsh spanking is bad. Don't use objects while spanking.

Personally, I wouldn't spank a kid at all but that's outside the scope of this study.

Conclusions
Exposing children to harsh HCP may have detrimental effects on trajectories of brain development. However, it is also conceivable that differences in prefrontal cortical development may increase risk of exposure to HCP.
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Trickfinger posted...

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

mmm

Thats abuse
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Master_Bass posted...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2896871/

tl;dr: Harsh spanking is bad. Don't use objects while spanking.

Personally, I wouldn't spank a kid at all but that's outside the scope of this study.

https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers/

tl;dr: part of the problem is that some people think of "spanking" and "hitting children" as two distinct categories of behaviour, when that is not the case.
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It shouldn't be a constant go-to punishment, but I do think there are cases in which it may be beneficial. There is a vast difference between "go get the switch" style insane parenting and a quick spanking.

Nidhoggr posted...

I prefer to just let my children walk all over me and give them everything they want.

definitely cant let that happen. time for a paddlin

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who the fuck has small children who can "walk all over them" xD

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Nidhoggr posted...

I prefer to just let my children walk all over me and give them everything they want.

So you're saying we need to teach our children that violence is the way to show people you won't let them take advantage of them?
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I don't want to

But I won't rule it out. It would be a last resort
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hockeybub89 posted...

So you're saying we need to teach our children that violence is the way to show people you won't let them take advantage of them?

that's exactly what he was getting at with that goofy attempt at sarcasm

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that comment was actually an insightful peek into the mind of a child beater.

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People are still defending hitting their children? That's pretty cringe.

Research shows that, at best, it likely has no effect on your child's behavior. At worst, it's traumatizing and teaches them that violence is a solution to their problems.

I'm a guy who was spanked, and I didn't "turn out fine." I have extreme anger and self-control issues.

_Rinku_ posted...

Research shows that, at best, it likely has no effect on your child's behavior. At worst, it's traumatizing and teaches them that violence is a solution to their problems.

I'm a guy who was spanked, and I didn't "turn out fine." I have extreme anger and self-control issues.

I remember every adult that laid a finger on me as a child, part of me wants to slap the shit out of them now

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Duncanwii posted...

No. If you respond to your child with violence they learn violence is an acceptable resort to events they dont like.

This is basically what is happening to me the last 20 years of my life, and took me a therapist to make my anger issue controllable.

Dont Fucking hit your kid. It messed up good portion of my life
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there's really no need to spank kids these day

like maybe my little cousins are not the norm when it comes to small children but words is enough to get them to stop misbehaving
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Nidhoggr posted...

I prefer to just let my children walk all over me and give them everything they want.

have you ever thought you need to strategize parenting instead of just going "it's the fault of childrenship"