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DarkProto05 08/23/19 12:26:08 PM #52:	UnfairRepresent posted... DifferentialEquation posted... gp1829 posted... All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached. The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship. No one is saying you have to live the chick who violated your trust.. but your kid didn't do anything This is a good point. Fuck the POS girl. She doesn't deserve anything from you ever again. But I would still be part of the kid's life. Raising someone for 8 years they practically become your own. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:926448338] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>gp1829 posted...</cite> <quote>All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached.</quote> The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship.</quote> No one is saying you have to live the chick who violated your trust.. but your kid didn't do anything</quote> This is a good point. Fuck the POS girl. She doesn't deserve anything from you ever again. But I would still be part of the kid's life. Raising someone for 8 years they practically become your own.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/23/19 12:31:16 PM #53:	I can see it from both sides. On one hand, you have formed a bond with this child, but on another hand the child is now a symbol of your life being torn apart. It really depends on the person and how much they care for the child. <cite>nemu posted [p:926448542] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>I can see it from both sides. On one hand, you have formed a bond with this child, but on another hand the child is now a symbol of your life being torn apart. It really depends on the person and how much they care for the child.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/23/19 12:32:20 PM #54:	s0nicfan posted... masticatingman posted... Get a DNA test before you go to court, guys. Can be too late by then. Judges have forced fathers to pay for child support even when DNA tests are brought to court as proof that they're not the father. IIRC the argument given is either "your name is on the birth certificate" or "you were there at the birth, so you were consenting to assuming responsibility". Male rape victims have been forced to pay child support to their female rapists. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:926448589] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>masticatingman posted...</cite> <quote>Get a DNA test before you go to court, guys. Can be too late by then.</quote> Judges have forced fathers to pay for child support even when DNA tests are brought to court as proof that they're not the father. IIRC the argument given is either "your name is on the birth certificate" or "you were there at the birth, so you were consenting to assuming responsibility".</quote> Male rape victims have been forced to pay child support to their female rapists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/23/19 12:33:16 PM #55:	DifferentialEquation posted... The kid didn't do anything, but that still doesn't mean the kid should be entitled to be raised by someone who is his not his biological father. no one said anything about "entitled " wtf If you unwittingly buy stolen property, you've done nothing wrong but you still may not get to keep it. Same thing, basically. The man's parental services were obtained fraudulently by the mother lying to him. holy shit you're literally comparing raising a kid to an object. That's bizarre and sick --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:926448630] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>The kid didn't do anything, but that still doesn't mean the kid should be entitled to be raised by someone who is his not his biological father. </quote> no one said anything about "entitled " wtf <quote>If you unwittingly buy stolen property, you've done nothing wrong but you still may not get to keep it. Same thing, basically. The man's parental services were obtained fraudulently by the mother lying to him.</quote> holy shit you're literally comparing raising a kid to an object. That's bizarre and sick</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 08/23/19 12:38:00 PM #56:	Yikes at the people who would just turn their backs on their child. That's some cold hearted shit, and it's way more pathetic than "raising another man's load" as one of you so disgustingly put it. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:926448810] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>Yikes at the people who would just turn their backs on their child. That's some cold hearted shit, and it's way more pathetic than "raising another man's load" as one of you so disgustingly put it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 08/23/19 12:40:28 PM #57:	The husband needs to sue the shit out of her, and leave immediately because he just got fucked over big time and looks like a huge fool. Dude should not be staying at all nor should he keep raising the child since it is not his problem. It is not the childs fault at all and the child is 100% innocent but the child is not his responsibility. The two can have a bond all they want but at the end of the day this boy is not his and he was tricked into raising another mans baby because his wife was a lying whore. If he continues to be in this childs life it only will hurt him in the long run, best to cut ties and leave. All men need to have a DNA test done when a baby is born so they know for a fact it is their child before signing anything or claiming any responsibility for that child. Do not get cucked by a woman because she swears it is your child, paternity fraud is no joke and it is so bad in France that a man cant get a DNA test because of all the families that have been wrecked over it so France banned it for family wellbeing. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:926448913] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>The husband needs to sue the shit out of her, and leave immediately because he just got fucked over big time and looks like a huge fool. Dude should not be staying at all nor should he keep raising the child since it is not his problem. It is not the childs fault at all and the child is 100% innocent but the child is not his responsibility. The two can have a bond all they want but at the end of the day this boy is not his and he was tricked into raising another mans baby because his wife was a lying whore. If he continues to be in this childs life it only will hurt him in the long run, best to cut ties and leave. All men need to have a DNA test done when a baby is born so they know for a fact it is their child before signing anything or claiming any responsibility for that child. Do not get cucked by a woman because she swears it is your child, paternity fraud is no joke and it is so bad in France that a man cant get a DNA test because of all the families that have been wrecked over it so France banned it for family wellbeing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 08/23/19 12:54:59 PM #58:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... It is not the childs fault at all and the child is 100% innocent but the child is not his responsibility. The two can have a bond all they want but at the end of the day this boy is not his and he was tricked into raising another mans baby because his wife was a lying whore. If he continues to be in this childs life it only will hurt him in the long run, best to cut ties and leave. ...no. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:926449537] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...</cite> <quote>It is not the childs fault at all and the child is 100% innocent but the child is not his responsibility. The two can have a bond all they want but at the end of the day this boy is not his and he was tricked into raising another mans baby because his wife was a lying whore. If he continues to be in this childs life it only will hurt him in the long run, best to cut ties and leave.</quote> ...no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiralDrift 08/23/19 12:56:07 PM #59:	It's disturbing how many women think it's perfectly ok to trick their SO into raising another man's child. --- Do unto others what your parents did to you. <cite>SpiralDrift posted [p:926449593] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>It's disturbing how many women think it's perfectly ok to trick their SO into raising another man's child.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 08/23/19 1:03:29 PM #60:	Sir Will posted... RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... It is not the childs fault at all and the child is 100% innocent but the child is not his responsibility. The two can have a bond all they want but at the end of the day this boy is not his and he was tricked into raising another mans baby because his wife was a lying whore. If he continues to be in this childs life it only will hurt him in the long run, best to cut ties and leave. ...no. Yes, and you have shown your white knight/captain save a hoe attitude in other posts btw. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:926449912] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...</cite> <quote>It is not the childs fault at all and the child is 100% innocent but the child is not his responsibility. The two can have a bond all they want but at the end of the day this boy is not his and he was tricked into raising another mans baby because his wife was a lying whore. If he continues to be in this childs life it only will hurt him in the long run, best to cut ties and leave.</quote> ...no.</quote> Yes, and you have shown your white knight/captain save a hoe attitude in other posts btw.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 08/23/19 1:04:42 PM #61:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... Sir Will posted... RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... It is not the childs fault at all and the child is 100% innocent but the child is not his responsibility. The two can have a bond all they want but at the end of the day this boy is not his and he was tricked into raising another mans baby because his wife was a lying whore. If he continues to be in this childs life it only will hurt him in the long run, best to cut ties and leave. ...no. Yes, and you have shown your white knight/captain save a hoe attitude in other posts btw. The mother has nothing to do with it. If you've raised a child, they are yours, regardless of DNA. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:926449973] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...</cite> <quote>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...</cite> <quote>It is not the childs fault at all and the child is 100% innocent but the child is not his responsibility. The two can have a bond all they want but at the end of the day this boy is not his and he was tricked into raising another mans baby because his wife was a lying whore. If he continues to be in this childs life it only will hurt him in the long run, best to cut ties and leave.</quote> ...no.</quote> Yes, and you have shown your white knight/captain save a hoe attitude in other posts btw.</quote> The mother has nothing to do with it. If you've raised a child, they are yours, regardless of DNA.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 08/23/19 1:04:56 PM #62:	@Cranie If it turned out your dad was not your biological father would it be as easy to turn around and so you no longer love him? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:926449979] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>@Cranie If it turned out your dad was not your biological father would it be as easy to turn around and so you no longer love him?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/23/19 1:05:11 PM #63:	Sir Will posted... RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... Sir Will posted... RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... It is not the childs fault at all and the child is 100% innocent but the child is not his responsibility. The two can have a bond all they want but at the end of the day this boy is not his and he was tricked into raising another mans baby because his wife was a lying whore. If he continues to be in this childs life it only will hurt him in the long run, best to cut ties and leave. ...no. Yes, and you have shown your white knight/captain save a hoe attitude in other posts btw. The mother has nothing to do with it. If you've raised a child, they are yours, regardless of DNA. wut She's literally the reason we have the issue. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:926449984] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...</cite> <quote>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...</cite> <quote>It is not the childs fault at all and the child is 100% innocent but the child is not his responsibility. The two can have a bond all they want but at the end of the day this boy is not his and he was tricked into raising another mans baby because his wife was a lying whore. If he continues to be in this childs life it only will hurt him in the long run, best to cut ties and leave.</quote> ...no.</quote> Yes, and you have shown your white knight/captain save a hoe attitude in other posts btw.</quote> The mother has nothing to do with it. If you've raised a child, they are yours, regardless of DNA.</quote> wut She's literally the reason we have the issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cranie 08/23/19 1:09:51 PM #64:	IfGodCouldDie posted... @Cranie If it turned out your dad was not your biological father would it be as easy to turn around and so you no longer love him? I wouldn't hold it against him if he chose to never speak to me again. I'm already terrible at keeping contact myself, but I'm admittedly diagnosed with a condition that would probably explain my lack of care. <cite>Cranie posted [p:926450194] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote>@Cranie If it turned out your dad was not your biological father would it be as easy to turn around and so you no longer love him?</quote> I wouldn't hold it against him if he chose to never speak to me again. I'm already terrible at keeping contact myself, but I'm admittedly diagnosed with a condition that would probably explain my lack of care.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 08/23/19 1:12:32 PM #65:	@Sir_Will This kind of thinking is why you will always be seen as having beta male behavior, or you have been cucked but are the dude who stays anyway even after finding out none of your children are yours, and your woman is the town whore. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:926450302] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>@Sir_Will This kind of thinking is why you will always be seen as having beta male behavior, or you have been cucked but are the dude who stays anyway even after finding out none of your children are yours, and your woman is the town whore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 08/23/19 1:13:36 PM #66:	Cranie posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... @Cranie If it turned out your dad was not your biological father would it be as easy to turn around and so you no longer love him? I wouldn't hold it against him if he chose to never speak to me again. I'm already terrible at keeping contact myself, but I'm admittedly diagnosed with a condition that would probably explain my lack of care. That's not what I asked, would you still love him or would your love evaporate in to nothing? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:926450345] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>Cranie posted...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote>@Cranie If it turned out your dad was not your biological father would it be as easy to turn around and so you no longer love him?</quote> I wouldn't hold it against him if he chose to never speak to me again. I'm already terrible at keeping contact myself, but I'm admittedly diagnosed with a condition that would probably explain my lack of care.</quote> That's not what I asked, would you still love him or would your love evaporate in to nothing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sunburst 08/23/19 1:14:01 PM #67:	Has the birth certificate been changed? I was always under the impression that whoever is the named father on the birth certificate is legally responsible. When I was about 12 my mom told me that my biological father was different than her former husband like I always thought. She didn't give me a name though. I never pursued the matter further. I just go by the birth certificate. It's not my responsibility to investigate or change it. If I wanted to claim inherentance or sue for back child support I would go by birth certificate. --- A True Friend leaves paw prints on your heart <cite>Sunburst posted [p:926450373] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>Has the birth certificate been changed? I was always under the impression that whoever is the named father on the birth certificate is legally responsible. When I was about 12 my mom told me that my biological father was different than her former husband like I always thought. She didn't give me a name though. I never pursued the matter further. I just go by the birth certificate. It's not my responsibility to investigate or change it. If I wanted to claim inherentance or sue for back child support I would go by birth certificate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/23/19 1:14:37 PM #68:	Here's a question: To all the people saying the man in this situation has a responsibility to continue to raise the child (and I'm not saying he doesn't)... should the biological father owe backpaid and continue to pay child support? Presumably if he doesn't have to raise his own kid, he at the very least should be legally financially responsible for the child's upbringing, right? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:926450398] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>Here's a question: To all the people saying the man in this situation has a responsibility to continue to raise the child (and I'm not saying he doesn't)... should the biological father owe backpaid and continue to pay child support? Presumably if he doesn't have to raise his own kid, he at the very least should be legally financially responsible for the child's upbringing, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cranie 08/23/19 1:15:40 PM #69:	IfGodCouldDie posted... Cranie posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... @Cranie If it turned out your dad was not your biological father would it be as easy to turn around and so you no longer love him? I wouldn't hold it against him if he chose to never speak to me again. I'm already terrible at keeping contact myself, but I'm admittedly diagnosed with a condition that would probably explain my lack of care. That's not what I asked, would you still love him or would your love evaporate in to nothing? I really can't answer this in any meaningful way.. sorry? <cite>Cranie posted [p:926450435] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote>Cranie posted...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote>@Cranie If it turned out your dad was not your biological father would it be as easy to turn around and so you no longer love him?</quote> I wouldn't hold it against him if he chose to never speak to me again. I'm already terrible at keeping contact myself, but I'm admittedly diagnosed with a condition that would probably explain my lack of care.</quote> That's not what I asked, would you still love him or would your love evaporate in to nothing?</quote> I really can't answer this in any meaningful way.. sorry?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 08/23/19 1:20:23 PM #70:	s0nicfan posted... Here's a question: To all the people saying the man in this situation has a responsibility to continue to raise the child (and I'm not saying he doesn't)... should the biological father owe backpaid and continue to pay child support? Presumably if he doesn't have to raise his own kid, he at the very least should be legally financially responsible for the child's upbringing, right? Legally? No. The husband is the child's legal father. Morally? I say still no. This is the husband's child even if they're not genetically related. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:926450624] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Here's a question: To all the people saying the man in this situation has a responsibility to continue to raise the child (and I'm not saying he doesn't)... should the biological father owe backpaid and continue to pay child support? Presumably if he doesn't have to raise his own kid, he at the very least should be legally financially responsible for the child's upbringing, right?</quote> Legally? No. The husband is the child's legal father. Morally? I say still no. This is the husband's child even if they're not genetically related.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/23/19 1:21:30 PM #71:	_Rinku_ posted... s0nicfan posted... Here's a question: To all the people saying the man in this situation has a responsibility to continue to raise the child (and I'm not saying he doesn't)... should the biological father owe backpaid and continue to pay child support? Presumably if he doesn't have to raise his own kid, he at the very least should be legally financially responsible for the child's upbringing, right? Legally? No. The husband is the child's legal father. Morally? I say still no. This is the husband's child even if they're not genetically related. It's literally not his child. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:926450674] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Here's a question: To all the people saying the man in this situation has a responsibility to continue to raise the child (and I'm not saying he doesn't)... should the biological father owe backpaid and continue to pay child support? Presumably if he doesn't have to raise his own kid, he at the very least should be legally financially responsible for the child's upbringing, right?</quote> Legally? No. The husband is the child's legal father. Morally? I say still no. This is the husband's child even if they're not genetically related.</quote> It's literally not his child.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/23/19 1:21:40 PM #72:	_Rinku_ posted... s0nicfan posted... Here's a question: To all the people saying the man in this situation has a responsibility to continue to raise the child (and I'm not saying he doesn't)... should the biological father owe backpaid and continue to pay child support? Presumably if he doesn't have to raise his own kid, he at the very least should be legally financially responsible for the child's upbringing, right? Legally? No. The husband is the child's legal father. Morally? I say still no. This is the husband's child even if they're not genetically related. Do you think there should be any repercussions at all, to anyone, over this kind of deception? Or is this (both legally and morally) a case of "too bad"? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:926450688] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Here's a question: To all the people saying the man in this situation has a responsibility to continue to raise the child (and I'm not saying he doesn't)... should the biological father owe backpaid and continue to pay child support? Presumably if he doesn't have to raise his own kid, he at the very least should be legally financially responsible for the child's upbringing, right?</quote> Legally? No. The husband is the child's legal father. Morally? I say still no. This is the husband's child even if they're not genetically related.</quote> Do you think there should be any repercussions at all, to anyone, over this kind of deception? Or is this (both legally and morally) a case of "too bad"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 08/23/19 1:23:48 PM #73:	Cranie posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... Cranie posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... @Cranie If it turned out your dad was not your biological father would it be as easy to turn around and so you no longer love him? I wouldn't hold it against him if he chose to never speak to me again. I'm already terrible at keeping contact myself, but I'm admittedly diagnosed with a condition that would probably explain my lack of care. That's not what I asked, would you still love him or would your love evaporate in to nothing? I really can't answer this in any meaningful way.. sorry? Do you love your dad? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:926450769] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>Cranie posted...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote>Cranie posted...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote>@Cranie If it turned out your dad was not your biological father would it be as easy to turn around and so you no longer love him?</quote> I wouldn't hold it against him if he chose to never speak to me again. I'm already terrible at keeping contact myself, but I'm admittedly diagnosed with a condition that would probably explain my lack of care.</quote> That's not what I asked, would you still love him or would your love evaporate in to nothing?</quote> I really can't answer this in any meaningful way.. sorry?</quote> Do you love your dad?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SavageGlum100 08/23/19 1:24:07 PM #74:	DifferentialEquation posted... gp1829 posted... All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached. The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship. The kid didn't do anything wrong and doesn't deserve to be punished for the shitty actions of the shitty mother. Anyone with even an ounce of empathy would understand that. <cite>SavageGlum100 posted [p:926450788] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>gp1829 posted...</cite> <quote>All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached.</quote> The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship.</quote> The kid didn't do anything wrong and doesn't deserve to be punished for the shitty actions of the shitty mother. Anyone with even an ounce of empathy would understand that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 08/23/19 1:26:02 PM #75:	@_Rinku_ Wow you have such a bad take on this and clearly have zero fucks given that the husband was tricked and believe the child is still his problem financially. If a baby is adopted that is one thing, but this woman cheated and has the husband raising some other mans load. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:926450856] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>@_Rinku_ Wow you have such a bad take on this and clearly have zero fucks given that the husband was tricked and believe the child is still his problem financially. If a baby is adopted that is one thing, but this woman cheated and has the husband raising some other mans load.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/23/19 1:27:39 PM #76:	SavageGlum100 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... gp1829 posted... All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached. The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship. The kid didn't do anything wrong and doesn't deserve to be punished for the shitty actions of the shitty mother. Anyone with even an ounce of empathy would understand that. The kid's 'punishment' is part of the consequence of the mother's actions. She should have thought about that before whoring around. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:926450921] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>SavageGlum100 posted...</cite> <quote>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>gp1829 posted...</cite> <quote>All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached.</quote> The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship.</quote> The kid didn't do anything wrong and doesn't deserve to be punished for the shitty actions of the shitty mother. Anyone with even an ounce of empathy would understand that.</quote> The kid's 'punishment' is part of the consequence of the mother's actions. She should have thought about that before whoring around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 08/23/19 1:29:17 PM #77:	darkjedilink posted... SavageGlum100 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... gp1829 posted... All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached. The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship. The kid didn't do anything wrong and doesn't deserve to be punished for the shitty actions of the shitty mother. Anyone with even an ounce of empathy would understand that. The kid's 'punishment' is part of the consequence of the mother's actions. She should have thought about that before whoring around. I'm sorry your parents never loved you enough to raise you to be person that understands empathy. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:926450980] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>SavageGlum100 posted...</cite> <quote>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>gp1829 posted...</cite> <quote>All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached.</quote> The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship.</quote> The kid didn't do anything wrong and doesn't deserve to be punished for the shitty actions of the shitty mother. Anyone with even an ounce of empathy would understand that.</quote> The kid's 'punishment' is part of the consequence of the mother's actions. She should have thought about that before whoring around.</quote> I'm sorry your parents never loved you enough to raise you to be person that understands empathy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 08/23/19 1:29:35 PM #78:	The childs suffering/punishment is the mothers fault, her horrible actions have consequences. If she had not cheated to begin with the child would not be punished at all, this is ultimately her fault. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:926450999] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>The childs suffering/punishment is the mothers fault, her horrible actions have consequences. If she had not cheated to begin with the child would not be punished at all, this is ultimately her fault.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
codey 08/23/19 1:31:30 PM #79:	Imagine calling a child you loved and raised for the first 8 years of his life "another man's load." If that's how you behave, the child is probably better without you in it's life, and any future you children you have that are genetically yours probably are better off without you in their lives as well. --- *runs out of topic naked* <cite>codey posted [p:926451095] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>Imagine calling a child you loved and raised for the first 8 years of his life "another man's load." If that's how you behave, the child is probably better without you in it's life, and any future you children you have that are genetically yours probably are better off without you in their lives as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AwesomeToTheMAX 08/23/19 1:32:35 PM #81:	Holy shit, I'm in the wrong topic. Thought I was still in balrog's --- "shut the f*** up. There's no such thing as a "sniper rifle"." - tamagucci <cite>AwesomeToTheMAX posted [p:926451134] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>Holy shit, I'm in the wrong topic. Thought I was still in balrog's</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/23/19 1:33:32 PM #82:	IfGodCouldDie posted... darkjedilink posted... SavageGlum100 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... gp1829 posted... All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached. The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship. The kid didn't do anything wrong and doesn't deserve to be punished for the shitty actions of the shitty mother. Anyone with even an ounce of empathy would understand that. The kid's 'punishment' is part of the consequence of the mother's actions. She should have thought about that before whoring around. I'm sorry your parents never loved you enough to raise you to be person that understands empathy. Said by the person with literally no empathy for the man who was cheated on, lied to, and duped into raising another man's child. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:926451166] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>SavageGlum100 posted...</cite> <quote>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>gp1829 posted...</cite> <quote>All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached.</quote> The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship.</quote> The kid didn't do anything wrong and doesn't deserve to be punished for the shitty actions of the shitty mother. Anyone with even an ounce of empathy would understand that.</quote> The kid's 'punishment' is part of the consequence of the mother's actions. She should have thought about that before whoring around.</quote> I'm sorry your parents never loved you enough to raise you to be person that understands empathy.</quote> Said by the person with literally no empathy for the man who was cheated on, lied to, and duped into raising another man's child.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 08/23/19 1:33:59 PM #83:	My step-grandfather is more of a family member to me than my actual parents are. --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:926451182] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>My step-grandfather is more of a family member to me than my actual parents are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 08/23/19 1:34:32 PM #84:	You clearly do not know how much damage mentally it is finding out you were betrayed and tricked into raising someone elses child. Men love the children they have but betrayal is no small thing and finding out the child is not yours 8 years later can induce serious anger in a lot of men. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:926451205] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>You clearly do not know how much damage mentally it is finding out you were betrayed and tricked into raising someone elses child. Men love the children they have but betrayal is no small thing and finding out the child is not yours 8 years later can induce serious anger in a lot of men.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 08/23/19 1:37:36 PM #85:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... @_Rinku_ Wow you have such a bad take on this and clearly have zero fucks given that the husband was tricked and believe the child is still his problem financially. If a baby is adopted that is one thing, but this woman cheated and has the husband raising some other mans load. I'm going to say this as plainly as possible: If you could raise a child for eight years and then turn your back on them for any reason, you are not a good person. You are allowed to be angry at the mother. You are allowed to be frustrated and hurt. If you abandon this child, who views you as their father and their world, you are a complete monster. Anyone who would shun their child in this situation needs to grow the fuck up and act like an adult. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:926451341] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...</cite> <quote>@_Rinku_ Wow you have such a bad take on this and clearly have zero fucks given that the husband was tricked and believe the child is still his problem financially. If a baby is adopted that is one thing, but this woman cheated and has the husband raising some other mans load.</quote> I'm going to say this as plainly as possible: If you could raise a child for eight years and then turn your back on them for any reason, you are not a good person. You are allowed to be angry at the mother. You are allowed to be frustrated and hurt. If you abandon this child, who views you as their father and their world, you are a complete monster. Anyone who would shun their child in this situation needs to grow the fuck up and act like an adult.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 08/23/19 1:39:04 PM #86:	_Rinku_ posted... If you could raise a child for eight years and then turn your back on them for any reason, you are not a good person. You are allowed to be angry at the mother. You are allowed to be frustrated and hurt. If you abandon this child, who views you as their father and their world, you are a complete monster. Anyone who would shun their child in this situation needs to grow the fuck up and act like an adult. This. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:926451399] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>If you could raise a child for eight years and then turn your back on them for any reason, you are not a good person. You are allowed to be angry at the mother. You are allowed to be frustrated and hurt. If you abandon this child, who views you as their father and their world, you are a complete monster. Anyone who would shun their child in this situation needs to grow the fuck up and act like an adult.</quote> This.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 08/23/19 1:43:27 PM #87:	The thing is once you find this out, it can change a man's perspective when he sees his child. What he once looked at as a product of the love between he and his wife is now replaced by seeing another man fucking his wife and almost a decade of being lied to and his trust betrayed. It's not the kid's fault, it's the mom. Maybe she shouldnt be out fucking other men and tricking a man into raising a child. Topics like this just proves how little people care for men in these situations. More people blaming the man for feeling betrayed and lied to than the woman who spread her legs for other men creating this situation in the first place. And perpetuating this just enables more women to do stuff like this because they face little scorn or repercussions when their lies get found out --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>WaterLink posted [p:926451556] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>The thing is once you find this out, it can change a man's perspective when he sees his child. What he once looked at as a product of the love between he and his wife is now replaced by seeing another man fucking his wife and almost a decade of being lied to and his trust betrayed. It's not the kid's fault, it's the mom. Maybe she shouldnt be out fucking other men and tricking a man into raising a child. Topics like this just proves how little people care for men in these situations. More people blaming the man for feeling betrayed and lied to than the woman who spread her legs for other men creating this situation in the first place. And perpetuating this just enables more women to do stuff like this because they face little scorn or repercussions when their lies get found out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 08/23/19 1:44:34 PM #88:	_Rinku_ posted... RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... @_Rinku_ Wow you have such a bad take on this and clearly have zero fucks given that the husband was tricked and believe the child is still his problem financially. If a baby is adopted that is one thing, but this woman cheated and has the husband raising some other mans load. I'm going to say this as plainly as possible: If you could raise a child for eight years and then turn your back on them for any reason, you are not a good person. You are allowed to be angry at the mother. You are allowed to be frustrated and hurt. If you abandon this child, who views you as their father and their world, you are a complete monster. Anyone who would shun their child in this situation needs to grow the fuck up and act like an adult. I feel like you'd have to experience that feeling of betrayal for yourself before you can state it so matter of factly. The people who suddenly treat the child like absolute trash seem like human garbage from a surface view, but that could easily be a coping mechanism. Though there are just trash human beings who could toss their biological child to the wayside if it suited them. <cite>nemu posted [p:926451597] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...</cite> <quote>@_Rinku_ Wow you have such a bad take on this and clearly have zero fucks given that the husband was tricked and believe the child is still his problem financially. If a baby is adopted that is one thing, but this woman cheated and has the husband raising some other mans load.</quote> I'm going to say this as plainly as possible: If you could raise a child for eight years and then turn your back on them for any reason, you are not a good person. You are allowed to be angry at the mother. You are allowed to be frustrated and hurt. If you abandon this child, who views you as their father and their world, you are a complete monster. Anyone who would shun their child in this situation needs to grow the fuck up and act like an adult.</quote> I feel like you'd have to experience that feeling of betrayal for yourself before you can state it so matter of factly. The people who suddenly treat the child like absolute trash seem like human garbage from a surface view, but that could easily be a coping mechanism. Though there are just trash human beings who could toss their biological child to the wayside if it suited them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 08/23/19 1:46:20 PM #89:	@_Rinku_ It is NOT his child, and he is not responsible for this child. It is you who needs to grow up and be an adult, just because there is a bond does not mean this shit does not happen all the time when a couple break up yet the man is just a boyfriend, or to the many step parents who have just left or been kicked out when the relationship is over. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:926451673] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>@_Rinku_ It is NOT his child, and he is not responsible for this child. It is you who needs to grow up and be an adult, just because there is a bond does not mean this shit does not happen all the time when a couple break up yet the man is just a boyfriend, or to the many step parents who have just left or been kicked out when the relationship is over.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/23/19 1:47:00 PM #90:	s0nicfan posted... _Rinku_ posted... s0nicfan posted... Here's a question: To all the people saying the man in this situation has a responsibility to continue to raise the child (and I'm not saying he doesn't)... should the biological father owe backpaid and continue to pay child support? Presumably if he doesn't have to raise his own kid, he at the very least should be legally financially responsible for the child's upbringing, right? Legally? No. The husband is the child's legal father. Morally? I say still no. This is the husband's child even if they're not genetically related. Do you think there should be any repercussions at all, to anyone, over this kind of deception? Or is this (both legally and morally) a case of "too bad"? @_Rinku_ I never got an answer on this. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:926451699] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Here's a question: To all the people saying the man in this situation has a responsibility to continue to raise the child (and I'm not saying he doesn't)... should the biological father owe backpaid and continue to pay child support? Presumably if he doesn't have to raise his own kid, he at the very least should be legally financially responsible for the child's upbringing, right?</quote> Legally? No. The husband is the child's legal father. Morally? I say still no. This is the husband's child even if they're not genetically related.</quote> Do you think there should be any repercussions at all, to anyone, over this kind of deception? Or is this (both legally and morally) a case of "too bad"?</quote> @_Rinku_ I never got an answer on this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 08/23/19 1:48:14 PM #91:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... @_Rinku_ It is NOT his child, and he is not responsible for this child. It is you who needs to grow up and be an adult, just because there is a bond does not mean this shit does not happen all the time when a couple break up yet the man is just a boyfriend, or to the many step parents who have just left or been kicked out when the relationship is over. It is literally his child. He raised the kid. Loved him. You might want to research how damaging it can be to children when "boyfriends" and step-parents suddenly exit the stage. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:926451747] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...</cite> <quote>@_Rinku_ It is NOT his child, and he is not responsible for this child. It is you who needs to grow up and be an adult, just because there is a bond does not mean this shit does not happen all the time when a couple break up yet the man is just a boyfriend, or to the many step parents who have just left or been kicked out when the relationship is over.</quote> It is literally his child. He raised the kid. Loved him. You might want to research how damaging it can be to children when "boyfriends" and step-parents suddenly exit the stage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 08/23/19 1:52:47 PM #92:	WaterLink posted... The thing is once you find this out, it can change a man's perspective when he sees his child. What he once looked at as a product of the love between he and his wife is now replaced by seeing another man fucking his wife and almost a decade of being lied to and his trust betrayed. It's not the kid's fault, it's the mom. Maybe she shouldnt be out fucking other men and tricking a man into raising a child. Topics like this just proves how little people care for men in these situations. More people blaming the man for feeling betrayed and lied to than the woman who spread her legs for other men creating this situation in the first place. And perpetuating this just enables more women to do stuff like this because they face little scorn or repercussions when their lies get found out Its all a form of male shaming, usually accompanied by things like man up, be a man and take responsibility(even when it is not the mans responsibility in anyway), and it never places blame on the woman for creating the situation. The reason that we have an epidemic of single mothers and cheating women is due to the fact no one shames them or uses their behavior as something extremely disgusting in society. Until women are seriously shame for these things nothing will stop other women from doing the same, and with a lack of punishment there is no incentive for women not to do these things. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:926451911] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>WaterLink posted...</cite> <quote>The thing is once you find this out, it can change a man's perspective when he sees his child. What he once looked at as a product of the love between he and his wife is now replaced by seeing another man fucking his wife and almost a decade of being lied to and his trust betrayed. It's not the kid's fault, it's the mom. Maybe she shouldnt be out fucking other men and tricking a man into raising a child. Topics like this just proves how little people care for men in these situations. More people blaming the man for feeling betrayed and lied to than the woman who spread her legs for other men creating this situation in the first place. And perpetuating this just enables more women to do stuff like this because they face little scorn or repercussions when their lies get found out</quote> Its all a form of male shaming, usually accompanied by things like man up, be a man and take responsibility(even when it is not the mans responsibility in anyway), and it never places blame on the woman for creating the situation. The reason that we have an epidemic of single mothers and cheating women is due to the fact no one shames them or uses their behavior as something extremely disgusting in society. Until women are seriously shame for these things nothing will stop other women from doing the same, and with a lack of punishment there is no incentive for women not to do these things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 08/23/19 1:52:59 PM #93:	darkjedilink posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... darkjedilink posted... SavageGlum100 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... gp1829 posted... All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached. The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship. The kid didn't do anything wrong and doesn't deserve to be punished for the shitty actions of the shitty mother. Anyone with even an ounce of empathy would understand that. The kid's 'punishment' is part of the consequence of the mother's actions. She should have thought about that before whoring around. I'm sorry your parents never loved you enough to raise you to be person that understands empathy. Said by the person with literally no empathy for the man who was cheated on, lied to, and duped into raising another man's child. Even if that was the case, which it's not because I have not implied any such feelings, if I had to choose between showing empathy to an 8 year old that just had the only man he knew as a father being taken away from him, or the adult that was lied to and tricked in to raising a child, my empathy would go to the child easily. Luckily empathy is not a finite resource that needs to be saved for only those deserving and can actually be shown to anyone and everyone at anytime. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:926451917] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>SavageGlum100 posted...</cite> <quote>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>gp1829 posted...</cite> <quote>All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached.</quote> The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship.</quote> The kid didn't do anything wrong and doesn't deserve to be punished for the shitty actions of the shitty mother. Anyone with even an ounce of empathy would understand that.</quote> The kid's 'punishment' is part of the consequence of the mother's actions. She should have thought about that before whoring around.</quote> I'm sorry your parents never loved you enough to raise you to be person that understands empathy.</quote> Said by the person with literally no empathy for the man who was cheated on, lied to, and duped into raising another man's child.</quote> Even if that was the case, which it's not because I have not implied any such feelings, if I had to choose between showing empathy to an 8 year old that just had the only man he knew as a father being taken away from him, or the adult that was lied to and tricked in to raising a child, my empathy would go to the child easily. Luckily empathy is not a finite resource that needs to be saved for only those deserving and can actually be shown to anyone and everyone at anytime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brandunh11 08/23/19 1:53:28 PM #94:	_Rinku_ posted... RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... @_Rinku_ Wow you have such a bad take on this and clearly have zero fucks given that the husband was tricked and believe the child is still his problem financially. If a baby is adopted that is one thing, but this woman cheated and has the husband raising some other mans load. I'm going to say this as plainly as possible: If you could raise a child for eight years and then turn your back on them for any reason, you are not a good person. You are allowed to be angry at the mother. You are allowed to be frustrated and hurt. If you abandon this child, who views you as their father and their world, you are a complete monster Do you feel this way about step parents who get divorced? --- https://imgur.com/MDQBi2C <cite>brandunh11 posted [p:926451932] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...</cite> <quote>@_Rinku_ Wow you have such a bad take on this and clearly have zero fucks given that the husband was tricked and believe the child is still his problem financially. If a baby is adopted that is one thing, but this woman cheated and has the husband raising some other mans load.</quote> I'm going to say this as plainly as possible: If you could raise a child for eight years and then turn your back on them for any reason, you are not a good person. You are allowed to be angry at the mother. You are allowed to be frustrated and hurt. If you abandon this child, who views you as their father and their world, you are a complete monster</quote> Do you feel this way about step parents who get divorced?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 08/23/19 1:55:32 PM #95:	s0nicfan posted... s0nicfan posted... _Rinku_ posted... s0nicfan posted... Here's a question: To all the people saying the man in this situation has a responsibility to continue to raise the child (and I'm not saying he doesn't)... should the biological father owe backpaid and continue to pay child support? Presumably if he doesn't have to raise his own kid, he at the very least should be legally financially responsible for the child's upbringing, right? Legally? No. The husband is the child's legal father. Morally? I say still no. This is the husband's child even if they're not genetically related. Do you think there should be any repercussions at all, to anyone, over this kind of deception? Or is this (both legally and morally) a case of "too bad"? @_Rinku_ I never got an answer on this. Oh, I missed your question. Well, let's say you introduce some kind of legal consequence for women who lie about their child's paternity. Do you think any woman, ever, would admit it then? This is similar to punishments for false rape allegations. Ideally, sure, it would make sense, but realistically it's just going to discourage people from reporting it (for fear that they would be punished for "lying" if their accusation couldn't be proven) or for anyone who actually lied to ever recant. What incentive would a mother have to admit that her child isn't biologically who she said they were? What about women who aren't sure? How do you plan to account for all of this, legally? So, both legally and morally, it essentially has to be a "too bad" situation or things will get really hairy. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:926452007] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Here's a question: To all the people saying the man in this situation has a responsibility to continue to raise the child (and I'm not saying he doesn't)... should the biological father owe backpaid and continue to pay child support? Presumably if he doesn't have to raise his own kid, he at the very least should be legally financially responsible for the child's upbringing, right?</quote> Legally? No. The husband is the child's legal father. Morally? I say still no. This is the husband's child even if they're not genetically related.</quote> Do you think there should be any repercussions at all, to anyone, over this kind of deception? Or is this (both legally and morally) a case of "too bad"?</quote> @_Rinku_ I never got an answer on this.</quote> Oh, I missed your question. Well, let's say you introduce some kind of legal consequence for women who lie about their child's paternity. Do you think any woman, ever, would admit it then? This is similar to punishments for false rape allegations. Ideally, sure, it would make sense, but realistically it's just going to discourage people from reporting it (for fear that they would be punished for "lying" if their accusation couldn't be proven) or for anyone who actually lied to ever recant. What incentive would a mother have to admit that her child isn't biologically who she said they were? What about women who aren't sure? How do you plan to account for all of this, legally? So, both legally and morally, it essentially has to be a "too bad" situation or things will get really hairy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 08/23/19 1:56:46 PM #96:	IfGodCouldDie posted... darkjedilink posted... IfGodCouldDie posted... darkjedilink posted... SavageGlum100 posted... DifferentialEquation posted... gp1829 posted... All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached. The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship. The kid didn't do anything wrong and doesn't deserve to be punished for the shitty actions of the shitty mother. Anyone with even an ounce of empathy would understand that. The kid's 'punishment' is part of the consequence of the mother's actions. She should have thought about that before whoring around. I'm sorry your parents never loved you enough to raise you to be person that understands empathy. Said by the person with literally no empathy for the man who was cheated on, lied to, and duped into raising another man's child. Even if that was the case, which it's not because I have not implied any such feelings, if I had to choose between showing empathy to an 8 year old that just had the only man he knew as a father being taken away from him, or the adult that was lied to and tricked in to raising a child, my empathy would go to the child easily. Luckily empathy is not a finite resource that needs to be saved for only those deserving and can actually be shown to anyone and everyone at anytime. This is just more proof of men not getting empathy and being disposable. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:926452053] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted...</cite> <quote>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>SavageGlum100 posted...</cite> <quote>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>gp1829 posted...</cite> <quote>All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached.</quote> The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship.</quote> The kid didn't do anything wrong and doesn't deserve to be punished for the shitty actions of the shitty mother. Anyone with even an ounce of empathy would understand that.</quote> The kid's 'punishment' is part of the consequence of the mother's actions. She should have thought about that before whoring around.</quote> I'm sorry your parents never loved you enough to raise you to be person that understands empathy.</quote> Said by the person with literally no empathy for the man who was cheated on, lied to, and duped into raising another man's child.</quote> Even if that was the case, which it's not because I have not implied any such feelings, if I had to choose between showing empathy to an 8 year old that just had the only man he knew as a father being taken away from him, or the adult that was lied to and tricked in to raising a child, my empathy would go to the child easily. Luckily empathy is not a finite resource that needs to be saved for only those deserving and can actually be shown to anyone and everyone at anytime.</quote> This is just more proof of men not getting empathy and being disposable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 08/23/19 1:58:45 PM #97:	brandunh11 posted... _Rinku_ posted... RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... @_Rinku_ Wow you have such a bad take on this and clearly have zero fucks given that the husband was tricked and believe the child is still his problem financially. If a baby is adopted that is one thing, but this woman cheated and has the husband raising some other mans load. I'm going to say this as plainly as possible: If you could raise a child for eight years and then turn your back on them for any reason, you are not a good person. You are allowed to be angry at the mother. You are allowed to be frustrated and hurt. If you abandon this child, who views you as their father and their world, you are a complete monster Do you feel this way about step parents who get divorced? Depends. Did the stepparent act as a parent, or just the biological parent's spouse? I have a friend whose dad and stepmom divorced a few years ago. She entered the picture when my friend was already an older teenager, so she never really acted as a parent towards them. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:926452141] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>brandunh11 posted...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...</cite> <quote>@_Rinku_ Wow you have such a bad take on this and clearly have zero fucks given that the husband was tricked and believe the child is still his problem financially. If a baby is adopted that is one thing, but this woman cheated and has the husband raising some other mans load.</quote> I'm going to say this as plainly as possible: If you could raise a child for eight years and then turn your back on them for any reason, you are not a good person. You are allowed to be angry at the mother. You are allowed to be frustrated and hurt. If you abandon this child, who views you as their father and their world, you are a complete monster</quote> Do you feel this way about step parents who get divorced?</quote> Depends. Did the stepparent act as a parent, or just the biological parent's spouse? I have a friend whose dad and stepmom divorced a few years ago. She entered the picture when my friend was already an older teenager, so she never really acted as a parent towards them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 08/23/19 2:01:25 PM #98:	Let me put in a way that some of you sociopaths can understand. The best thing that man can do is raise that child and be the most loving person in their life. Because what will eventually happen is when the child is old enough to find out what kind of terrible human being their mother is and find out that the man they have been calling dad for their entire life was betrayed by their mom, the dynamic of that relationship will shift in a way that the mother will be resented and possibly even hated. That would be the best revenge because not only have you taken away the child from the mother by the child's own choice, you continue to bask in the undying live of a person grateful for everything you have ever done for them. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:926452245] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>Let me put in a way that some of you sociopaths can understand. The best thing that man can do is raise that child and be the most loving person in their life. Because what will eventually happen is when the child is old enough to find out what kind of terrible human being their mother is and find out that the man they have been calling dad for their entire life was betrayed by their mom, the dynamic of that relationship will shift in a way that the mother will be resented and possibly even hated. That would be the best revenge because not only have you taken away the child from the mother by the child's own choice, you continue to bask in the undying live of a person grateful for everything you have ever done for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 08/23/19 2:01:35 PM #99:	Im the only one in my family able to have children to carry on my family's name and genetics. If I found out you took away that chance and killed my bloodline......scrubbed away that little piece of my great grandfather still in the world......no, some of you really arent thinking this through. Id be out of the picture because any interaction I would have around the mother would be tinged with rage and hate, and Im not gonna keep a child in a situation like that just to make myself feel more virtuous. The woman took these things away from her child, not the man who was straight up TRICKED into financially supporting them. The pain the child goes through for not having a father is on her. I guess some of you guys havent been in a long term cheating/lying scenario. This is so extremely beyond that. --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:926452254] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>Im the only one in my family able to have children to carry on my family's name and genetics. If I found out you took away that chance and killed my bloodline......scrubbed away that little piece of my great grandfather still in the world......no, some of you really arent thinking this through. Id be out of the picture because any interaction I would have around the mother would be tinged with rage and hate, and Im not gonna keep a child in a situation like that just to make myself feel more virtuous. The woman took these things away from her child, not the man who was straight up TRICKED into financially supporting them. The pain the child goes through for not having a father is on her. I guess some of you guys havent been in a long term cheating/lying scenario. This is so extremely beyond that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 08/23/19 2:02:33 PM #100:	I have to ask, are you a man or a woman ?, Id think your a woman with the lack if empathy you have for males. @_Rinku_ --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:926452291] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>I have to ask, are you a man or a woman ?, Id think your a woman with the lack if empathy you have for males. @_Rinku_</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 08/23/19 2:03:12 PM #101:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... This is just more proof of men not getting empathy and being disposable. How so? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:926452314] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...</cite> <quote>This is just more proof of men not getting empathy and being disposable.</quote> How so?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Rinku_ 08/23/19 2:06:26 PM #102:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... Im the only one in my family able to have children to carry on my family's name and genetics. If I found out you took away that chance and killed my bloodline......scrubbed away that little piece of my great grandfather still in the world......no, some of you really arent thinking this through. Id be out of the picture because any interaction I would have around the mother would be tinged with rage and hate, and Im not gonna keep a child in a situation like that just to make myself feel more virtuous. The woman took these things away from her child, not the man who was straight up TRICKED into financially supporting them. The pain the child goes through for not having a father is on her. I guess some of you guys havent been in a long term cheating/lying scenario. This is so extremely beyond that. XD I love it when people like you wax poetic about your bloodline and how important your "name" is. You're not a legendary warrior who's reincarnated in your descendants. Name two of your great-great grandparents. If you know, I can almost guarantee that your children won't. Your existence is essentially forgotten within 150 years of your death. Your "name" (especially your last name, which you share with thousands of people on this planet) is very ephemeral in the grand scheme of things. <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:926452433] in High court... [t:77958559]...</cite> <quote>Jerry_Hellyeah posted...</cite> <quote>Im the only one in my family able to have children to carry on my family's name and genetics. If I found out you took away that chance and killed my bloodline......scrubbed away that little piece of my great grandfather still in the world......no, some of you really arent thinking this through. Id be out of the picture because any interaction I would have around the mother would be tinged with rage and hate, and Im not gonna keep a child in a situation like that just to make myself feel more virtuous. The woman took these things away from her child, not the man who was straight up TRICKED into financially supporting them. The pain the child goes through for not having a father is on her. I guess some of you guys havent been in a long term cheating/lying scenario. This is so extremely beyond that.</quote> XD I love it when people like you wax poetic about your bloodline and how important your "name" is. You're not a legendary warrior who's reincarnated in your descendants. Name two of your great-great grandparents. If you know, I can almost guarantee that your children won't. Your existence is essentially forgotten within 150 years of your death. Your "name" (especially your last name, which you share with thousands of people on this planet) is very ephemeral in the grand scheme of things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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