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darkjedilink
08/23/19 5:23:29 PM
#203:


_Rinku_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
_Rinku_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
codey posted...
The fact that so many of you would straight up abandon a child the second you learn it's "another's man load" just shows that you only see children as a burden and know nothing about parental love. Please, never have children. If all they are is a bundle of your passed down genes to you, you will be a terrible parent and the kids are better off having never been born.

I have two boys, whom I love more than anything in the world. Having my children taken from me is the absolute worst thing I've ever been through.

That said, I am not so disgusted by being a man that I'd be okay staying in a relationship with a woman who cheated on me, and lied to me so I'd raise another man's child.

No one is saying to stay with the mother.

'Don't stay with the mother, but you better not leave the child or you're a fucking MONSTER!'

You don't have to stay with the mother to not abandon your child.

Kinda hard to stay in his life once the divorce is final and the biological father stakes his claim.
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codey
08/23/19 5:26:09 PM
#204:


darkjedilink posted...
No, you'd rather punish the man.

Tell me - what's your position on abortion?


If the woman elects to get the abortion she be able to. If the man wants her to get one and she doesn't want to, he should be able to opt out of responsibility.

We get it, dude. You got the raw end of a deal in a divorce which happens way too often and that sucks, but you're letting that cloud your view here. Absolutely nobody is supporting the wife in this situation. Supporting the child is not supporting what she did.

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darkjedilink
08/23/19 5:32:02 PM
#205:


codey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
No, you'd rather punish the man.

Tell me - what's your position on abortion?


If the woman elects to get the abortion she be able to. If the man wants her to get one and she doesn't want to, he should be able to opt out of responsibility.

We get it, dude. You got the raw end of a deal in a divorce which happens way too often and that sucks, but you're letting that cloud your view here. Absolutely nobody is supporting the wife in this situation. Supporting the child is not supporting what she did.

Supporting another man's child IS supporting what she did here. Like, it's literally paying her for cheating on you and having another man's child.
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DarkProto05
08/23/19 5:33:03 PM
#206:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Let me put in a way that some of you sociopaths can understand. The best thing that man can do is raise that child and be the most loving person in their life. Because what will eventually happen is when the child is old enough to find out what kind of terrible human being their mother is and find out that the man they have been calling dad for their entire life was betrayed by their mom, the dynamic of that relationship will shift in a way that the mother will be resented and possibly even hated. That would be the best revenge because not only have you taken away the child from the mother by the child's own choice, you continue to bask in the undying love of a person grateful for everything you have ever done for them.

Great post right here. Do the right thing. Take care of the child and don't let him suffer by leaving. When they grow up they will personally enact revenge on cheating bitch. Karma.
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darkjedilink
08/23/19 5:34:06 PM
#207:


DarkProto05 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Let me put in a way that some of you sociopaths can understand. The best thing that man can do is raise that child and be the most loving person in their life. Because what will eventually happen is when the child is old enough to find out what kind of terrible human being their mother is and find out that the man they have been calling dad for their entire life was betrayed by their mom, the dynamic of that relationship will shift in a way that the mother will be resented and possibly even hated. That would be the best revenge because not only have you taken away the child from the mother by the child's own choice, you continue to bask in the undying love of a person grateful for everything you have ever done for them.

Great post right here. Do the right thing. Take care of the child and don't let him suffer by leaving. When they grow up they will personally enact revenge on cheating bitch. Karma.

So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.
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codey
08/23/19 5:36:13 PM
#208:


darkjedilink posted...
Supporting another man's child IS supporting what she did here. Like, it's literally paying her for cheating on you and having another man's child.


The child is biologically another man's, but that child never met him. The kid doesn't give a fuck about that guy. What the kid will care about is the only father it's ever known abandoning him because of something his mother did.

There is absolutely no difference to the child.

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legendary_zell
08/23/19 5:36:17 PM
#209:


darkjedilink posted...
codey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
No, you'd rather punish the man.

Tell me - what's your position on abortion?


If the woman elects to get the abortion she be able to. If the man wants her to get one and she doesn't want to, he should be able to opt out of responsibility.

We get it, dude. You got the raw end of a deal in a divorce which happens way too often and that sucks, but you're letting that cloud your view here. Absolutely nobody is supporting the wife in this situation. Supporting the child is not supporting what she did.

Supporting another man's child IS supporting what she did here. Like, it's literally paying her for cheating on you and having another man's child.


No. No. No. No. A child is a human in need of support. Supporting a child is supporting a child. You have the right to leave her immediately, put her on blast in the town squares, take an ad out in the NY Times calling her a cheater, divorce her and take her money etc. But the child is their own being, not merely an extension of the mother or a combination of DNA.
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TheGleamEyes
08/23/19 5:36:54 PM
#210:


UnfairRepresent posted...
taught him how to shave


The boy is eight...
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codey
08/23/19 5:37:41 PM
#211:


darkjedilink posted...
So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.


Jesus fucking Christ you're so jaded you can't even realize that you don't have to stay with a cheating spouse to remain in a child's life.

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legendary_zell
08/23/19 5:38:30 PM
#212:


darkjedilink posted...
legendary_zell posted...
darkjedilink posted...
I think the way we do it now is more stable for society and less accusatory. You have a point though. I just don't think it makes sense as a policy.

Itp - fuck men.


I'm a men myself. I'm pretty sure I don't think that. I simply value fatherhood and children and don't care much for punishing the innocent in order to punish their mothers. I don't think choosing to remain a good father is a punishment for a man, it's an honor mixed with a burden.

No, you'd rather punish the man.

Tell me - what's your position on abortion?


You're being hysterical. You're not even reading what I'm posting and are now bringing up unrelated social issues. I support women having exclusive autonomy over their bodies and the use of their organs and I oppose the government forcing women to carry a life form for 9 months and then give birth.

A man has no say in any of that.
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Cleo_II
08/23/19 5:41:10 PM
#213:


Ive only through the first couple of pages, but are most CEmen sociopaths or something?
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Jerry_Hellyeah
08/23/19 5:50:35 PM
#214:


Conflict posted...
"Hell, Im type 0 negative. That alone means Im almost objectively more valuable than you"

Guess you forgot typing that gem, huh


Yeah, I typed that in response to the guy saying my heritage is worthless. That theres nothing worth passing on. Ill stand by it too. Maybe check up on what O negative entails while youre at it.

Nice try at a "gotcha", maybe try making a point next time instead of a 6 word shit post. Smart stuff, son.
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_Rinku_
08/23/19 5:53:10 PM
#215:


Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Conflict posted...
"Hell, Im type 0 negative. That alone means Im almost objectively more valuable than you"

Guess you forgot typing that gem, huh


Yeah, I typed that in response to the guy saying my heritage is worthless. That theres nothing worth passing on. Ill stand by it too. Maybe check up on what O negative entails while youre at it.

Nice try at a "gotcha", maybe try making a point next time instead of a 6 word shit post. Smart stuff, son.

Do you donate blood?
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UnfairRepresent
08/23/19 5:53:30 PM
#216:


Cleo_II posted...
Ive only through the first couple of pages, but are most CEmen sociopaths or something?

Poe's law
can't tell if people are serious or just pretending
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darkjedilink
08/23/19 5:55:11 PM
#217:


codey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.

Jesus fucking Christ you're so jaded you can't even realize that you don't have to stay with a cheating spouse to remain in a child's life.

So, they get a divorce, and what? You think he'll get custody? You think she's going to let him see the child? You think she isn't going to make up a bunch of shit about him to tell the kid?

I'm not jaded. You're extremely naive.
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_Rinku_
08/23/19 5:55:41 PM
#218:


darkjedilink posted...
codey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.

Jesus fucking Christ you're so jaded you can't even realize that you don't have to stay with a cheating spouse to remain in a child's life.

So, they get a divorce, and what? You think he'll get custody? You think she's going to let him see the child? You think she isn't going to make up a bunch of shit about him to tell the kid?

I'm not jaded. You're extremely naive.

Is that what happened to you?
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legendary_zell
08/23/19 6:02:32 PM
#219:


darkjedilink posted...
codey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.

Jesus fucking Christ you're so jaded you can't even realize that you don't have to stay with a cheating spouse to remain in a child's life.

So, they get a divorce, and what? You think he'll get custody? You think she's going to let him see the child? You think she isn't going to make up a bunch of shit about him to tell the kid?

I'm not jaded. You're extremely naive.


The kid would go with the primary caretaker, as they should, and the cheating and lying would be taken into account during the division of assets and custody dispute, as it should be. Things aren't nearly as biased against men as some might think. The issue is that women in our society are usually the primary caretakers and the residue from when that was enforced heavily by society is hard to overcome in terms of the actual child rearing arrangements and then in the courts.
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darkjedilink
08/23/19 6:03:32 PM
#220:


_Rinku_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
codey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.

Jesus fucking Christ you're so jaded you can't even realize that you don't have to stay with a cheating spouse to remain in a child's life.

So, they get a divorce, and what? You think he'll get custody? You think she's going to let him see the child? You think she isn't going to make up a bunch of shit about him to tell the kid?

I'm not jaded. You're extremely naive.

Is that what happened to you?

She cheated, but the boys are mine. She got custody, never let me call them, got the kids taken away because her new boyfriend molested them, told Social Services that I was mean, so they wouldn't let me talk to them, then gave them back to her after she promised to stay away from the boyfriend (who also knocked her up) after the state of Minnesota started paying for her apartment and medical bills.
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codey
08/23/19 6:04:07 PM
#221:


darkjedilink posted...
So, they get a divorce, and what? You think he'll get custody? You think she's going to let him see the child? You think she isn't going to make up a bunch of shit about him to tell the kid?

I'm not jaded. You're extremely naive.


This case is about as public as it gets, which is why the judge ordered the mother to tell them both the truth. Even if she lies later, it's not hard to dispute any of what she says.

Let me ask you a question: if you found out, right now, that your kids weren't actually yours, would you honestly cut them out of your life like you suggest this guy should? Hell, he raised his child longer than either of yours were raised by you, so if he should abandon his you should have no problem abandoning yours, right? Just ignore all that love you have for your kids.


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darkjedilink
08/23/19 6:04:45 PM
#222:


legendary_zell posted...
darkjedilink posted...
codey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.

Jesus fucking Christ you're so jaded you can't even realize that you don't have to stay with a cheating spouse to remain in a child's life.

So, they get a divorce, and what? You think he'll get custody? You think she's going to let him see the child? You think she isn't going to make up a bunch of shit about him to tell the kid?

I'm not jaded. You're extremely naive.


The kid would go with the primary caretaker, as they should, and the cheating and lying would be taken into account during the division of assets and custody dispute, as it should be. Things aren't nearly as biased against men as some might think. The issue is that women in our society are usually the primary caretakers and the residue from when that was enforced heavily by society is hard to overcome in terms of the actual child rearing arrangements and then in the courts.

No, the kid would go to the mom. Period. End of story. Her cheating and lying would be deemed irrelevant.

That you are either oblivious or willfully ignorant of these facts is not surprising to me in the least.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
08/23/19 6:05:34 PM
#223:


_Rinku_ posted...
Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Conflict posted...
"Hell, Im type 0 negative. That alone means Im almost objectively more valuable than you"

Guess you forgot typing that gem, huh


Yeah, I typed that in response to the guy saying my heritage is worthless. That theres nothing worth passing on. Ill stand by it too. Maybe check up on what O negative entails while youre at it.

Nice try at a "gotcha", maybe try making a point next time instead of a 6 word shit post. Smart stuff, son.

Do you donate blood?


I do. I think anyone with a rarer blood type should do so if possible. O negative, AB, B positive or B negative (whichever one isnt the common one). Id almost say its a responsibility. I really hope that didnt come off as just me saying "THERES GOLD IN THESE HERE VEINS AND IT MEANS I AM SUPERIOR", but if a dickhead wants to pointlessly talk about the objective value of a human being in 2019 and say theres no value to them, its absolutely worth mentioning.
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legendary_zell
08/23/19 6:13:46 PM
#224:


darkjedilink posted...
legendary_zell posted...
darkjedilink posted...
codey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.

Jesus fucking Christ you're so jaded you can't even realize that you don't have to stay with a cheating spouse to remain in a child's life.

So, they get a divorce, and what? You think he'll get custody? You think she's going to let him see the child? You think she isn't going to make up a bunch of shit about him to tell the kid?

I'm not jaded. You're extremely naive.


The kid would go with the primary caretaker, as they should, and the cheating and lying would be taken into account during the division of assets and custody dispute, as it should be. Things aren't nearly as biased against men as some might think. The issue is that women in our society are usually the primary caretakers and the residue from when that was enforced heavily by society is hard to overcome in terms of the actual child rearing arrangements and then in the courts.

No, the kid would go to the mom. Period. End of story. Her cheating and lying would be deemed irrelevant.

That you are either oblivious or willfully ignorant of these facts is not surprising to me in the least.


I really don't meant this as an insult, but I think your specific experience is blinding you to objective or empirical reality. You are saying that a child would categorically go to the mother, regardless of what happened in the relationship or who was the primary caretaker and that's simply inaccurate.

There may have been a grossly miscarriage of justice in your case, but that doesn't mean that's the way it's supposed to work or how it typically works.
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darkjedilink
08/23/19 6:20:20 PM
#225:


legendary_zell posted...
darkjedilink posted...
legendary_zell posted...
darkjedilink posted...
codey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.

Jesus fucking Christ you're so jaded you can't even realize that you don't have to stay with a cheating spouse to remain in a child's life.

So, they get a divorce, and what? You think he'll get custody? You think she's going to let him see the child? You think she isn't going to make up a bunch of shit about him to tell the kid?

I'm not jaded. You're extremely naive.


The kid would go with the primary caretaker, as they should, and the cheating and lying would be taken into account during the division of assets and custody dispute, as it should be. Things aren't nearly as biased against men as some might think. The issue is that women in our society are usually the primary caretakers and the residue from when that was enforced heavily by society is hard to overcome in terms of the actual child rearing arrangements and then in the courts.

No, the kid would go to the mom. Period. End of story. Her cheating and lying would be deemed irrelevant.

That you are either oblivious or willfully ignorant of these facts is not surprising to me in the least.


I really don't meant this as an insult, but I think your specific experience is blinding you to objective or empirical reality. You are saying that a child would categorically go to the mother, regardless of what happened in the relationship or who was the primary caretaker and that's simply inaccurate.

There may have been a grossly miscarriage of justice in your case, but that doesn't mean that's the way it's supposed to work or how it typically works.

Find 10 cases where the father has been given custody of his children in a divorce. If you can find 10, where the mother was not grossly violent, a repeat offender felon, or a drug dealer, I might be willing to re-examine my stance.

I know you won't, because reality is I am correct. Child custody cases are insanely skewed towards the mother, and have been for decades.
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_Rinku_
08/23/19 6:23:15 PM
#226:


darkjedilink posted...
legendary_zell posted...
darkjedilink posted...
legendary_zell posted...
darkjedilink posted...
codey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.

Jesus fucking Christ you're so jaded you can't even realize that you don't have to stay with a cheating spouse to remain in a child's life.

So, they get a divorce, and what? You think he'll get custody? You think she's going to let him see the child? You think she isn't going to make up a bunch of shit about him to tell the kid?

I'm not jaded. You're extremely naive.


The kid would go with the primary caretaker, as they should, and the cheating and lying would be taken into account during the division of assets and custody dispute, as it should be. Things aren't nearly as biased against men as some might think. The issue is that women in our society are usually the primary caretakers and the residue from when that was enforced heavily by society is hard to overcome in terms of the actual child rearing arrangements and then in the courts.

No, the kid would go to the mom. Period. End of story. Her cheating and lying would be deemed irrelevant.

That you are either oblivious or willfully ignorant of these facts is not surprising to me in the least.


I really don't meant this as an insult, but I think your specific experience is blinding you to objective or empirical reality. You are saying that a child would categorically go to the mother, regardless of what happened in the relationship or who was the primary caretaker and that's simply inaccurate.

There may have been a grossly miscarriage of justice in your case, but that doesn't mean that's the way it's supposed to work or how it typically works.

Find 10 cases where the father has been given custody of his children in a divorce. If you can find 10, where the mother was not grossly violent, a repeat offender felon, or a drug dealer, I might be willing to re-examine my stance.

I know you won't, because reality is I am correct. Child custody cases are insanely skewed towards the mother, and have been for decades.

How do you expect to cite those cases? If the mother isn't grossly negligent, it wouldn't make the news. These kinds of cases aren't generally open to the public to peruse either.
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legendary_zell
08/23/19 6:27:19 PM
#227:


darkjedilink posted...
legendary_zell posted...
darkjedilink posted...
legendary_zell posted...
darkjedilink posted...
codey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.

Jesus fucking Christ you're so jaded you can't even realize that you don't have to stay with a cheating spouse to remain in a child's life.

So, they get a divorce, and what? You think he'll get custody? You think she's going to let him see the child? You think she isn't going to make up a bunch of shit about him to tell the kid?

I'm not jaded. You're extremely naive.


The kid would go with the primary caretaker, as they should, and the cheating and lying would be taken into account during the division of assets and custody dispute, as it should be. Things aren't nearly as biased against men as some might think. The issue is that women in our society are usually the primary caretakers and the residue from when that was enforced heavily by society is hard to overcome in terms of the actual child rearing arrangements and then in the courts.

No, the kid would go to the mom. Period. End of story. Her cheating and lying would be deemed irrelevant.

That you are either oblivious or willfully ignorant of these facts is not surprising to me in the least.


I really don't meant this as an insult, but I think your specific experience is blinding you to objective or empirical reality. You are saying that a child would categorically go to the mother, regardless of what happened in the relationship or who was the primary caretaker and that's simply inaccurate.

There may have been a grossly miscarriage of justice in your case, but that doesn't mean that's the way it's supposed to work or how it typically works.

Find 10 cases where the father has been given custody of his children in a divorce. If you can find 10, where the mother was not grossly violent, a repeat offender felon, or a drug dealer, I might be willing to re-examine my stance.

I know you won't, because reality is I am correct. Child custody cases are insanely skewed towards the mother, and have been for decades.


You would have a point if we equally divided child care duties in our society. Then you'd expect to see an equal division of custody. But there's a few basic facts to establish. First, the overwhelming majority of divorces and custody disputes are uncontroversial and negotiated. Second, sole custody is pretty damn rare and only happens when one parent is grossly unfit anyway. Third, women are saddled with disproportionate child rearing duties from birth. When you consider these elements, and the fact that the best interest standard typically comes down to best parent and who spends the most time, it's not surprising that women disproportionately receive custody.

Sole custody typically happens with credible allegations of drug use or domestic violence, and women are primed to value and prepare for child rearing, so yeah, they're typically gonna win.
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garan
08/23/19 6:27:47 PM
#228:


legendary_zell posted...
darkjedilink posted...
legendary_zell posted...
darkjedilink posted...
codey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.

Jesus fucking Christ you're so jaded you can't even realize that you don't have to stay with a cheating spouse to remain in a child's life.

So, they get a divorce, and what? You think he'll get custody? You think she's going to let him see the child? You think she isn't going to make up a bunch of shit about him to tell the kid?

I'm not jaded. You're extremely naive.


The kid would go with the primary caretaker, as they should, and the cheating and lying would be taken into account during the division of assets and custody dispute, as it should be. Things aren't nearly as biased against men as some might think. The issue is that women in our society are usually the primary caretakers and the residue from when that was enforced heavily by society is hard to overcome in terms of the actual child rearing arrangements and then in the courts.

No, the kid would go to the mom. Period. End of story. Her cheating and lying would be deemed irrelevant.

That you are either oblivious or willfully ignorant of these facts is not surprising to me in the least.


I really don't meant this as an insult, but I think your specific experience is blinding you to objective or empirical reality. You are saying that a child would categorically go to the mother, regardless of what happened in the relationship or who was the primary caretaker and that's simply inaccurate.

There may have been a grossly miscarriage of justice in your case, but that doesn't mean that's the way it's supposed to work or how it typically works.


It's the typical way 'justice' handles children in divorce. Women almost always win, regardless of the facts.

My mother was a drug abuser who admittedly cheated on my father who then filed for divorce & she still won custody & child support. That was back in the 80s, before all the strides feminism has made over the last few decades.

Per the US census, over 80% of children of divorce go to live with the mother & they are much more likely (52%) to get child support compared to single fathers (31%).
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legendary_zell
08/23/19 6:28:56 PM
#229:


The best way to change that would be to change paternity leave laws, encourage more stay at home dads, and push active fatherhood as a goal among men and boys.
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Unite
08/23/19 6:28:56 PM
#230:


Did they really have to sue to figure out biological father is Tyrone
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UnfairRepresent
08/23/19 6:31:09 PM
#231:


I think it's interesting that the same users saying it's perfectly emotionally stable to just swtich off loving/caring for a kid after 8 years of raising it from birth are the ones who also claim to have had kids and been screwed over by evil women and courts which they are mad about.

Even though those counteract each other....
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codey
08/23/19 6:40:48 PM
#232:


codey posted...
Let me ask you a question: if you found out, right now, that your kids weren't actually yours, would you honestly cut them out of your life like you suggest this guy should? Hell, he raised his child longer than either of yours were raised by you, so if he should abandon his you should have no problem abandoning yours, right? Just ignore all that love you have for your kids.


I can't help but feel like he's ignoring this question.


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DarkProto05
08/23/19 6:49:39 PM
#233:


darkjedilink posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Let me put in a way that some of you sociopaths can understand. The best thing that man can do is raise that child and be the most loving person in their life. Because what will eventually happen is when the child is old enough to find out what kind of terrible human being their mother is and find out that the man they have been calling dad for their entire life was betrayed by their mom, the dynamic of that relationship will shift in a way that the mother will be resented and possibly even hated. That would be the best revenge because not only have you taken away the child from the mother by the child's own choice, you continue to bask in the undying love of a person grateful for everything you have ever done for them.

Great post right here. Do the right thing. Take care of the child and don't let him suffer by leaving. When they grow up they will personally enact revenge on cheating bitch. Karma.

So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.

Hell no. Request visits with the child. Take them out to the movies, the mall, whatever. If the judge denies these requests fuck it, nothing you can do.
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darkjedilink
08/23/19 6:54:29 PM
#234:


UnfairRepresent posted...
I think it's interesting that the same users saying it's perfectly emotionally stable to just swtich off loving/caring for a kid after 8 years of raising it from birth are the ones who also claim to have had kids and been screwed over by evil women and courts which they are mad about.

Even though those counteract each other....

Link one post who said it's 'perfectly emotionally stable.'
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darkjedilink
08/23/19 6:57:10 PM
#235:


DarkProto05 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Let me put in a way that some of you sociopaths can understand. The best thing that man can do is raise that child and be the most loving person in their life. Because what will eventually happen is when the child is old enough to find out what kind of terrible human being their mother is and find out that the man they have been calling dad for their entire life was betrayed by their mom, the dynamic of that relationship will shift in a way that the mother will be resented and possibly even hated. That would be the best revenge because not only have you taken away the child from the mother by the child's own choice, you continue to bask in the undying love of a person grateful for everything you have ever done for them.

Great post right here. Do the right thing. Take care of the child and don't let him suffer by leaving. When they grow up they will personally enact revenge on cheating bitch. Karma.

So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.

Hell no. Request visits with the child. Take them out to the movies, the mall, whatever. If the judge denies these requests fuck it, nothing you can do.

If that's what he wants to do, more power to him. If not, I can't fault the guy.

codey posted...
codey posted...
Let me ask you a question: if you found out, right now, that your kids weren't actually yours, would you honestly cut them out of your life like you suggest this guy should? Hell, he raised his child longer than either of yours were raised by you, so if he should abandon his you should have no problem abandoning yours, right? Just ignore all that love you have for your kids.

I can't help but feel like he's ignoring this question.

Post one time where I suggested he cut the kid out of his life. I have explicitly AVOIDED saying what he 'should' do because I abhor the idea of having to make that choice. Whatever choice he makes, so long as it's legal, I doubt I could look down upon.

Stop projecting your own insecurities on others.
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MichaelKaySeeYa
08/23/19 6:57:28 PM
#236:


spikethedevil posted...
Got to love how many people have no issue mentally scarring the kid even further.


I mean that was completely on the one who cheated and lied to the child.

That's borderline child abuse.
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darkjedilink
08/23/19 6:59:26 PM
#237:


MichaelKaySeeYa posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Got to love how many people have no issue mentally scarring the kid even further.

I mean that was completely on the one who cheated and lied to the child.

That's borderline child abuse.

This. That's why I don't get the people demonizing the guy in this thread - they literally don't care that Mom is the cause in all of this. They lay 10000000% of the blame on the guy who was cheated on, lied to, and forced to raise another man's baby.
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UnfairRepresent
08/23/19 6:59:57 PM
#238:


darkjedilink posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I think it's interesting that the same users saying it's perfectly emotionally stable to just swtich off loving/caring for a kid after 8 years of raising it from birth are the ones who also claim to have had kids and been screwed over by evil women and courts which they are mad about.

Even though those counteract each other....

Link one post who said it's 'perfectly emotionally stable.'

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77958559/926438246
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77958559/926438357
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77958559/926438792
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77958559/926439607
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77958559/926440723
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77958559/926440756
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77958559/926442020

First page alone
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darkjedilink
08/23/19 7:01:57 PM
#239:


UnfairRepresent posted...
darkjedilink posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I think it's interesting that the same users saying it's perfectly emotionally stable to just swtich off loving/caring for a kid after 8 years of raising it from birth are the ones who also claim to have had kids and been screwed over by evil women and courts which they are mad about.

Even though those counteract each other....

Link one post who said it's 'perfectly emotionally stable.'

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77958559/926438246
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77958559/926438357
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77958559/926438792
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77958559/926439607
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77958559/926440723
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77958559/926440756
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77958559/926442020

First page alone

You know that last one is 100 percent correct, right?

Also, nobody called it stable anyway.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
08/23/19 7:01:59 PM
#240:


I repeat, staying means youre a hero, walking away just means youre human. Its not "switching off" anything to be destroyed by something and understand that its something you wont get past.

Im the type to hold a grudge, and props to whoever wants to say that makes me a shitty person, really, but I know my relationship with the kid would involve lots of calling his mom a whore, so it wouldnt be right for either of us. I dont move past betrayal, and its not something you can expect someone to seperate from this situation.
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darkjedilink
08/23/19 7:04:20 PM
#241:


Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
I repeat, staying means youre a hero, walking away just means youre human. Its not "switching off" anything to be destroyed by something and understand that its something you wont get past.

Im the type to hold a grudge, and props to whoever wants to say that makes me a shitty person, really, but I know my relationship with the kid would involve lots of calling his mom a whore, so it wouldnt be right for either of us. I dont move past betrayal, and its not something you can expect someone to seperate from this situation.

All of this.
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-Cipher-
08/23/19 7:06:12 PM
#242:


I mean the kid definitely needs to be told at some point, I just don't know that 8 is the right age to drop that

Honestly this whole thing is a mess and the whore kind of deserves it, just glad the guy came around and is going to be a father to the kid
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Jerry_Hellyeah
08/23/19 7:07:53 PM
#243:


-Cipher- posted...
I mean the kid definitely needs to be told at some point, I just don't know that 8 is the right age to drop that

Honestly this whole thing is a mess and the whore kind of deserves it, just glad the guy came around and is going to be a father to the kid


This. Dude didnt do what was expected of him. He far surpassed it. The guy is a hero.
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codey
08/23/19 7:08:49 PM
#244:


darkjedilink posted...
That said, I am not so disgusted by being a man that I'd be okay staying in a relationship with a woman who cheated on me, and lied to me so I'd raise another man's child.


You literally stated that you wouldn't be okay with raising another man's child. Again, if you found out your children were fathered by another man, would you cede all responsibility of raising them and abandon them? You already said your ex cheated, it's entirely possible.

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IfGodCouldDie
08/23/19 7:10:39 PM
#245:


darkjedilink posted...
_Rinku_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
_Rinku_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
codey posted...
The fact that so many of you would straight up abandon a child the second you learn it's "another's man load" just shows that you only see children as a burden and know nothing about parental love. Please, never have children. If all they are is a bundle of your passed down genes to you, you will be a terrible parent and the kids are better off having never been born.

I have two boys, whom I love more than anything in the world. Having my children taken from me is the absolute worst thing I've ever been through.

That said, I am not so disgusted by being a man that I'd be okay staying in a relationship with a woman who cheated on me, and lied to me so I'd raise another man's child.

No one is saying to stay with the mother.

'Don't stay with the mother, but you better not leave the child or you're a fucking MONSTER!'

You don't have to stay with the mother to not abandon your child.

Kinda hard to stay in his life once the divorce is final and the biological father stakes his claim.

No it's not. If you have been there for the child for 8 years that is going to play a much bigger role in court proceedings than the child's DNA.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/23/19 7:11:39 PM
#246:


darkjedilink posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Let me put in a way that some of you sociopaths can understand. The best thing that man can do is raise that child and be the most loving person in their life. Because what will eventually happen is when the child is old enough to find out what kind of terrible human being their mother is and find out that the man they have been calling dad for their entire life was betrayed by their mom, the dynamic of that relationship will shift in a way that the mother will be resented and possibly even hated. That would be the best revenge because not only have you taken away the child from the mother by the child's own choice, you continue to bask in the undying love of a person grateful for everything you have ever done for them.

Great post right here. Do the right thing. Take care of the child and don't let him suffer by leaving. When they grow up they will personally enact revenge on cheating bitch. Karma.

So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.

That's not what that says at all.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/23/19 7:12:59 PM
#247:


Cleo_II posted...
Ive only through the first couple of pages, but are most CEmen sociopaths or something?

Careful, I got a NWD for using that word.
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darkjedilink
08/23/19 7:13:15 PM
#248:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
darkjedilink posted...
_Rinku_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
_Rinku_ posted...
darkjedilink posted...
codey posted...
The fact that so many of you would straight up abandon a child the second you learn it's "another's man load" just shows that you only see children as a burden and know nothing about parental love. Please, never have children. If all they are is a bundle of your passed down genes to you, you will be a terrible parent and the kids are better off having never been born.

I have two boys, whom I love more than anything in the world. Having my children taken from me is the absolute worst thing I've ever been through.

That said, I am not so disgusted by being a man that I'd be okay staying in a relationship with a woman who cheated on me, and lied to me so I'd raise another man's child.

No one is saying to stay with the mother.

'Don't stay with the mother, but you better not leave the child or you're a fucking MONSTER!'

You don't have to stay with the mother to not abandon your child.

Kinda hard to stay in his life once the divorce is final and the biological father stakes his claim.

No it's not. If you have been there for the child for 8 years that is going to play a much bigger role in court proceedings than the child's DNA.

No, it won't.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/23/19 7:13:29 PM
#249:


Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Conflict posted...
"Hell, Im type 0 negative. That alone means Im almost objectively more valuable than you"

Guess you forgot typing that gem, huh


Yeah, I typed that in response to the guy saying my heritage is worthless. That theres nothing worth passing on. Ill stand by it too. Maybe check up on what O negative entails while youre at it.

Nice try at a "gotcha", maybe try making a point next time instead of a 6 word shit post. Smart stuff, son.

I never said your heritage was worthless.
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_Rinku_
08/23/19 7:13:34 PM
#250:


Y'all understand that abandoning the child is further traumatizing to them, and that that action is completely on the father, right?

You know how on TV when parents get divorced, they tell the kids, "We both still love you,"? Abandoning the child tells them the exact opposite of that.

Leave if you absolutely can't handle the situation, but own up to what a terrible person you're being to a small child who only calls you dad.
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darkjedilink
08/23/19 7:14:35 PM
#251:


codey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
That said, I am not so disgusted by being a man that I'd be okay staying in a relationship with a woman who cheated on me, and lied to me so I'd raise another man's child.

You literally stated that you wouldn't be okay with raising another man's child. Again, if you found out your children were fathered by another man, would you cede all responsibility of raising them and abandon them? You already said your ex cheated, it's entirely possible.

Except I had a DNA test done. They're mine. So stop trying to manipulate my emotions because you think a cheating whore deserves a paycheck.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/23/19 7:15:28 PM
#252:


darkjedilink posted...
legendary_zell posted...
darkjedilink posted...
codey posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So, stay with the cheating whore. Gotcha.

Jesus fucking Christ you're so jaded you can't even realize that you don't have to stay with a cheating spouse to remain in a child's life.

So, they get a divorce, and what? You think he'll get custody? You think she's going to let him see the child? You think she isn't going to make up a bunch of shit about him to tell the kid?

I'm not jaded. You're extremely naive.


The kid would go with the primary caretaker, as they should, and the cheating and lying would be taken into account during the division of assets and custody dispute, as it should be. Things aren't nearly as biased against men as some might think. The issue is that women in our society are usually the primary caretakers and the residue from when that was enforced heavily by society is hard to overcome in terms of the actual child rearing arrangements and then in the courts.

No, the kid would go to the mom. Period. End of story. Her cheating and lying would be deemed irrelevant.

That you are either oblivious or willfully ignorant of these facts is not surprising to me in the least.

Sounds like you needed a better lawyer.
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