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UnfairRepresent
08/23/19 5:40:26 AM
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A woman must tell her son who his biological father is after having an affair, the High Court has ruled.

A wife who was sued by her husband after it was revealed that her eight-year-old son is not his must reveal the name of the biological father to her husband and child.

The husband had originally sued for "every penny" he spent on the child he thought was his son but was fathered by someone she had an affair with.

However, following a hearing in June he decided he wanted to continue his role as a father to the child and subsequently no longer seeks reimbursement.

But the man and woman had argued over whether the boy should be told who his real father was. The man said he should be told while his estranged wife was against such a move.

Mr Justice Cohen ruled that the boy should be informed that the husband is not his father and noted that too many people knew for it to remain a secret. The judge said the boy must not be told until the time was right.

He said an independent social worker would give advice and decide when the boy should be given the information.

Mr Justice Cohen made it clear that while the boy would be informed that the husband is not his father, it would be up to the child to decide if and when he wanted to know the name of his biological father, at which point the husband should also be told the name of the man.

Mr Justice Cohen also ordered the husband not to publicise the other man's name.

The biological father of the boy has said the allegations that he fathered the child have no iota of truth whatsoever.

The judge has outlined his decision in a written ruling following the latest round of litigation at private hearings in the Family Division of the High Court in London.

He said no-one involved could be named in media reports of the case.

Details of the case had emerged in July when the judge published an earlier ruling.

The judge said the man had been devastated to learn that he was not the boy's father and had launched a "raft" of litigation.

He said the woman was "full of remorse".


Full Article: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/22/woman-must-tell-son-biological-father-having-affair-rules-high/
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What do you think?

Should the mom be forced to tell her son/ex husband who the real father was against her will?
What if the ex wants to know but the son doesnt?
Should the biological father be finanically responsible for some of the costs of raising the kid?
If you raised a child you thought was your own for 8 years, would you really want to cut ties the moment it's revealed to be someone elses or would you love the child too much by then?
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Fam_Fam
08/23/19 5:45:33 AM
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biological father is responsible financially, its his kid.

telling the kid is a gray area. i think they can/should tell when he's old enough to understand the situation. not now, necessarily, though.

it would be VERY hard if it wasn't mine. I'd probably want to be involved still to some extent, because I would love the kid.I would not take 100% responsibility though, probably. Particularly if this was the result of cheating that caused me to break up with the woman. If me and her were fine, I'd be more inclined to be in the child's life and to help. Not really fair to the kid (who wouldn't be responsible for what happens with me and woman), but it's how i would feel/act I think.
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Cranie
08/23/19 5:48:04 AM
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I wouldn't care at all about either the mother or her kid after that. Make her pay through the nose for purposely lying and wasting 8 years of this mans life.
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UnfairRepresent
08/23/19 5:55:17 AM
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Cranie posted...
I wouldn't care at all about either the mother or her kid after that. Make her pay through the nose for purposely lying and wasting 8 years of this mans life.

The kid didn't do anything tho.

All those times you hanged his diaper, took him to the park, helped him with homework, taught him how to shave, watched movies, he wrote you a card on fathers day, that was all meaningless to you?
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Cranie
08/23/19 5:58:39 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Cranie posted...
I wouldn't care at all about either the mother or her kid after that. Make her pay through the nose for purposely lying and wasting 8 years of this mans life.

The kid didn't do anything tho.

All those times you hanged his diaper, took him to the park, helped him with homework, taught him how to shave, watched movies, he wrote you a card on fathers day, that was all meaningless to you?


Completely
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Foppe
08/23/19 6:05:44 AM
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I can understand getting angry at her, but to stop loving the kid you raised as your own son for 8 years?
No normal person got any On/Off love switch that they can flip any way they want.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
08/23/19 6:06:07 AM
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Cranie posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Cranie posted...
I wouldn't care at all about either the mother or her kid after that. Make her pay through the nose for purposely lying and wasting 8 years of this mans life.

The kid didn't do anything tho.

All those times you hanged his diaper, took him to the park, helped him with homework, taught him how to shave, watched movies, he wrote you a card on fathers day, that was all meaningless to you?


Completely


Honestly, yeah. I can say Id be better, but realizing Ive dedicated my life to some other guy's load that my wife took behind my back......oh boy.
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spikethedevil
08/23/19 6:08:43 AM
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Got to love how many people have no issue mentally scarring the kid even further.
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Cranie
08/23/19 6:09:37 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Got to love how many people have no issue mentally scarring the kid even further.


Not my kid, not my problem. There's a biological father that can swoop in and save the day lol.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
08/23/19 6:11:36 AM
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Id probably do the most heinous public smearing possible while suing for everything she would ever own in her life.
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spikethedevil
08/23/19 6:12:26 AM
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Cranie posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Got to love how many people have no issue mentally scarring the kid even further.


Not my kid, not my problem. There's a biological father that can swoop in and save the day lol.


Not how it always works in the real world.
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Cranie
08/23/19 6:13:27 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Cranie posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Got to love how many people have no issue mentally scarring the kid even further.


Not my kid, not my problem. There's a biological father that can swoop in and save the day lol.


Not how it always works in the real world.


Really depends on the people involved.
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UnfairRepresent
08/23/19 6:14:28 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Cranie posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Got to love how many people have no issue mentally scarring the kid even further.


Not my kid, not my problem. There's a biological father that can swoop in and save the day lol.


Not how it always works in the real world.

Even if it was, I question the mental state of people who can just "switch off" love like that.

It sounds unheathy.

The mother broke your trust sure, that can never be repaired but the kid didn't do anything
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Jerry_Hellyeah
08/23/19 6:21:11 AM
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Peacing out in this situation isnt inflicting anything upon the child. She already did the damage. She already took away what she did from her husband and child.
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Cranie
08/23/19 6:21:42 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Cranie posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Got to love how many people have no issue mentally scarring the kid even further.


Not my kid, not my problem. There's a biological father that can swoop in and save the day lol.


Not how it always works in the real world.

Even if it was, I question the mental state of people who can just "switch off" love like that.

It sounds unheathy.

The mother broke your trust sure, that can never be repaired but the kid didn't do anything


Not my kid, not my problem. There's a biological father that can swoop in and save the day lol.
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SpiralDrift
08/23/19 6:39:05 AM
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The kid already has a mother and biological father to take care of him. I would sue the mother and move on with my life. The mother will have to answer to the child when the time comes.
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Solid Sonic
08/23/19 7:05:15 AM
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Foppe posted...
I can understand getting angry at her, but to stop loving the kid you raised as your own son for 8 years?
No normal person got any On/Off love switch that they can flip any way they want.

Aaaaand thats my biggest fear about ever becoming a parent.
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Foppe
08/23/19 7:06:54 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Foppe posted...
I can understand getting angry at her, but to stop loving the kid you raised as your own son for 8 years?
No normal person got any On/Off love switch that they can flip any way they want.

Aaaaand thats my biggest fear about ever becoming a parent.

Fear that a family doesnt need to be connected by blood?
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knutjob
08/23/19 7:07:14 AM
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Cranie posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Cranie posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Got to love how many people have no issue mentally scarring the kid even further.


Not my kid, not my problem. There's a biological father that can swoop in and save the day lol.


Not how it always works in the real world.

Even if it was, I question the mental state of people who can just "switch off" love like that.

It sounds unheathy.

The mother broke your trust sure, that can never be repaired but the kid didn't do anything


Not my kid, not my problem. There's a biological father that can swoop in and save the day lol.


Jesus Christ...
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gp1829
08/23/19 7:08:47 AM
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All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached.
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Foppe
08/23/19 7:12:00 AM
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What happen if we turn it the other way?
You suddenly learn that your one night stand 8 years ago got pregnant and gave birth to a son, and now her husband kicked them both out and you are supposed to take care of it.
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knutjob
08/23/19 7:21:13 AM
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gp1829 posted...
All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached.


Edgy teenagers are edgy
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GSWarriors-
08/23/19 7:30:01 AM
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If you take care of another man's child after being lied to for years thinking it's your own and you still take care of the kid after finding out it's not yours that makes you a beta ass cuck lmao.
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Fam_Fam
08/23/19 7:31:19 AM
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Foppe posted...
What happen if we turn it the other way?
You suddenly learn that your one night stand 8 years ago got pregnant and gave birth to a son, and now her husband kicked them both out and you are supposed to take care of it.


its your responsibility, and one that you got out of for 8 years. if you're the kind of asshole that's mad about this, you should be appreciative that you avoided the "burden" for 8 years
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Jerry_Hellyeah
08/23/19 7:34:02 AM
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Foppe posted...
What happen if we turn it the other way?
You suddenly learn that your one night stand 8 years ago got pregnant and gave birth to a son, and now her husband kicked them both out and you are supposed to take care of it.


Again, 100,000,000% on her. Sucks that she put her one night stand in that situation, but shes the one who fucked him in more ways than one.

Im sure as shit not gonna expect anything from the husband, because that would be fucking absurd.
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UnfairRepresent
08/23/19 7:47:43 AM
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Foppe posted...
What happen if we turn it the other way?
You suddenly learn that your one night stand 8 years ago got pregnant and gave birth to a son, and now her husband kicked them both out and you are supposed to take care of it.

this is a fair point too

imagine if someone came up to you and said "8 years of child support now!" when you had say or knowledge about anything
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The Top Crusader
08/23/19 8:19:39 AM
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My child basically looks like a clone of me so this situation is pretty unlikely, but, uhh... if I'd spent 8 years treating a child as my child then it's my child as far as I'm concerned. If the kid wanted to get to know their biological dad I wouldn't stop them but I'd prefer they just forget about it and move on.
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SpiralDrift
08/23/19 8:27:43 AM
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The Top Crusader posted...
My child basically looks like a clone of me so this situation is pretty unlikely, but, uhh... if I'd spent 8 years treating a child as my child then it's my child as far as I'm concerned. If the kid wanted to get to know their biological dad I wouldn't stop them but I'd prefer they just forget about it and move on.

Do you have any brothers?
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DifferentialEquation
08/23/19 8:30:48 AM
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gp1829 posted...
All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached.


The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship.
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
08/23/19 8:32:36 AM
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All these people saying it isn't normal to switch off the care/love if you find out the kid isn't yours are 100 percent totally ignoring the fact that you are finding out for 8 years you have been lied to day in and day out by your wife/girlfriend whatever.

You're expecting an adult human being to not have feelings and emotions after something devastating like that.

Stop making the world black and white. It isn't.

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UnfairRepresent
08/23/19 8:32:48 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
gp1829 posted...
All these people saying they could just sue and walk away after raising a kid for 8 years clearly don't have kids and are trying way too hard to sound cool and emotionally unattached.


The kid may not be at fault, but how are you have supposed to have any self respect again if you, after finding out that you've been so horribly duped, just continue to go along with it? Not to mention that no one else is going to respect you when they find out. And taking care of the kid is going to make you look weak which makes you unappealing to other women, thus hurting your chances of actually moving on and finding a good relationship.

No one is saying you have to live the chick who violated your trust..

but your kid didn't do anything
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Sir Will
08/23/19 8:37:23 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The husband had originally sued for "every penny" he spent on the child he thought was his son but was fathered by someone she had an affair with.

Dick.

UnfairRepresent posted...
However, following a hearing in June he decided he wanted to continue his role as a father to the child and subsequently no longer seeks reimbursement.

At least he came to his senses. I don't understand how you could raise a child, love a child for 8 years and then just turn that off and abandon them because you're pissed.

UnfairRepresent posted...
Should the mom be forced to tell her son/ex husband who the real father was against her will?

Yes. Maybe when he's a little older, but overall, yes. That information is useful in multiple ways.
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SpiralDrift
08/23/19 8:51:54 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
No one is saying you have to live the chick who violated your trust..

but your kid didn't do anything

"your kid"
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Solid Sonic
08/23/19 8:53:14 AM
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Wife's son.
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UnfairRepresent
08/23/19 8:55:04 AM
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SpiralDrift posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
No one is saying you have to live the chick who violated your trust..

but your kid didn't do anything

"your kid"

yes your kid.

The one you raised for 8 years . The one you taught to read and took to school. The one who told you he lives you and made you a duck made out of cardboard
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Cranie
08/23/19 8:56:48 AM
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SpiralDrift posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
No one is saying you have to live the chick who violated your trust..

but your kid didn't do anything

"your kid"


Oh no, you are totally mentally stunted if you don't stick with the kid that share none of your genes, is a constant reminder of your wives betrayal and a general waste of your time and resources.
Yea, no.
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Twin3Turbo
08/23/19 9:11:46 AM
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Not sure I agree with the whole " but the kid didn't do anything" logic

Like, lets say a guy meets a single mother when her kid is 6 months and dates her for three and half years. He takes care of that kid as if it's his own, but then he and the mother break up. After the break-up, he no longer cares for the kid financially, even though that guy was the only person that the kid knew as a father. In that case too, the kid "didn't do anything wrong" but I don't really think most people would be calling the guy an ass or questioning his mental state for no longer financially supporting them.

Key difference here is that they guy knew from the jump that he wasn't the father, but I guess the question I'm asking is, is that point alone good enough to label someone as being a bad person or not? The fact that he wasn't duped, something that would understandably make someone more irate about the situation? Not necessarily sure if I agree.

Tough situation all around. I can kinda see where both sides are coming from.

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pikachupwnage
08/23/19 9:11:57 AM
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Cranie posted...
Completely


That is what we call being a sociopath.

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brandunh11
08/23/19 9:25:47 AM
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To the people saying that theres no off/on switch, this literally happens with step-parent situations every day and nobody bats an eye. One day youre taking care of your step kids as if theyre your own. The next youre divorced and no longer taking care of them emotionally or financially. Nobody calls you an asshole for stopping.
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UnfairRepresent
08/23/19 10:54:37 AM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
Not sure I agree with the whole " but the kid didn't do anything" logic

What the fuck did the kid do?
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The Top Crusader
08/23/19 10:58:47 AM
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SpiralDrift posted...
The Top Crusader posted...
My child basically looks like a clone of me so this situation is pretty unlikely, but, uhh... if I'd spent 8 years treating a child as my child then it's my child as far as I'm concerned. If the kid wanted to get to know their biological dad I wouldn't stop them but I'd prefer they just forget about it and move on.

Do you have any brothers?


I do have one, but my child was also put together in a lab, so if it didn't look like me it'd be more likely the doctor was swapping out some samples for his own.
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Twin3Turbo
08/23/19 11:22:01 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
What the fuck did the kid do?
Nothing, as I already stated.

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DifferentialEquation
08/23/19 11:30:03 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
Not sure I agree with the whole " but the kid didn't do anything" logic

What the fuck did the kid do?


The kid didn't do anything, but that still doesn't mean the kid should be entitled to be raised by someone who is his not his biological father. If you unwittingly buy stolen property, you've done nothing wrong but you still may not get to keep it. Same thing, basically. The man's parental services were obtained fraudulently by the mother lying to him. The kid is innocent, but he still doesn't get to keep the stolen goods/services.
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08/23/19 11:32:53 AM
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Trumps America.
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darkjedilink
08/23/19 11:42:14 AM
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How is the dude the bad guy in this story? She cheated on him, lied to him for years, and FORCED him to raise a kid she apparently knew wasn't his.
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SpiralDrift
08/23/19 11:51:32 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
How is the dude the bad guy in this story? She cheated on him, lied to him for years, and FORCED him to raise a kid she apparently knew wasn't his.

Male privilege.
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Sir Will
08/23/19 12:13:04 PM
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JFC, some of you are really, really sick, and completely unfit to ever be parents.
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s0nicfan
08/23/19 12:18:35 PM
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Independent of whether they kid should be told or not, I 100% support legally requiring a woman to divulge the genetic father to her husband in situations like this. Even if the current dad chooses to stay on, he has a right to know whose kid he is raising, and from a medical history perspective that connection can be really important in that kid's life in terms of watching for early indicators of problems that the father's family is genetically disposed to.
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masticatingman
08/23/19 12:22:30 PM
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Get a DNA test before you go to court, guys. Can be too late by then.
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s0nicfan
08/23/19 12:25:37 PM
#51:


masticatingman posted...
Get a DNA test before you go to court, guys. Can be too late by then.


Judges have forced fathers to pay for child support even when DNA tests are brought to court as proof that they're not the father. IIRC the argument given is either "your name is on the birth certificate" or "you were there at the birth, so you were consenting to assuming responsibility".
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