Poll of the Day > Conservative Steve King defending procreation by way of rape and incest

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Mead
08/14/19 4:32:23 PM
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http://bit.ly/2N3VnoP

maximum yikes

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Cacciato
08/14/19 4:38:39 PM
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That was the first article I saw when I woke up and checked the news this morning. Some of these politicians seriously need to invest in having someone check these goddamn speeches before they give them.
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wolfy42
08/14/19 4:48:05 PM
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I thought that said steven king at first and was like........ok.

But it's just a republican, nothing new here.

His argument is stupid though, of course humanity would exist, and considering all the suffering that would have been avoided, it might be slightly kinder.

This is kinda like the argument that humans have been total nimrods throughout history and so they should be allowed to be nimrods now as well. Does he also support slavery? Maybe humanity wouldn't exist if people throughout time didn't have slaves that were forced to work so hard.
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darkknight109
08/14/19 4:53:06 PM
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Substantive oof.

Cacciato posted...
Some of these politicians seriously need to invest in having someone check these goddamn speeches before they give them.

Remember in 2012 when Todd Akin gave that cringey "legitimate rape" comment and everyone - including Republicans - agreed it was fucking terrible and basically blackballed him?

Man, those were good times. Back when a dumbfuck comment would be met with condemnation instead of people rushing to explain why it actually was a totally fine thing to say.
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Gaawa_chan
08/14/19 4:53:20 PM
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It's Steve King, and it's a republican. Ha, you certainly won't find any surprised women:
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2017/02/rapequotes.jpg?w=768
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faramir77
08/14/19 5:01:07 PM
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That probably makes up a sizable part of their voting base, and now they've legitimized them.
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dioxxys
08/14/19 6:05:36 PM
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no looking at a site that makes me disable adblock
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Mead
08/14/19 6:14:06 PM
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dioxxys posted...
no looking at a site that makes me disable adblock


my Adblock works just fine on it

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Yellow
08/14/19 6:21:44 PM
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"What if we went back through all the family trees and just pulled those people out that were products of rape and incest? Would there be any population of the world left if we did that?" he said at in Urbandale, Iowa. "Considering all the wars and all the rapes and pillages taken place and whatever happened to culture after society? I know I can't certify that I'm not a part of a product of that."

I like how this is a completely asinine and incorrect thing to say outside of being totally disgusting. He also has no clue how this whole "evolution" thing works.

The rapists wouldn't pass on their genes, and the rest of humanity would take up their space. Dumbshit.
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miki_sauvester
08/14/19 6:32:00 PM
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He's just speaking about historically.
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Mead
08/14/19 6:33:04 PM
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miki_sauvester posted...
He's just speaking about historically.


What the fuck is the point of this post

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ninja_lootz
08/14/19 6:34:02 PM
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A stupid argument, but he's right to ban those types of abortions.
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Yellow
08/14/19 6:40:36 PM
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I love articles like this because it just shows that 200% of Conservatives are bleeding heart SJWs, crying the Liberals are sending brainless fetus souls to hell.

And then like 3% of Liberals think men are evil.

They only care when they're wrong.
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dioxxys
08/14/19 7:13:09 PM
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Yellow posted...
I love articles like this because it just shows that 200% of Conservatives are bleeding heart SJWs, crying the Liberals are sending brainless fetus souls to hell.

And then like 3% of Liberals think men are evil.

They only care when they're wrong.

You pulled those numbers out of your butt but I agree with you.

Sjw conservatives:
-dont send fetuses to hell
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Mead
08/14/19 7:16:30 PM
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9/10 of fetuses agree chewing trident is a good alternative to brushing

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Krow_Incarnate
08/14/19 10:16:32 PM
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"Conservative Steve King defending rape and incest by way of procreation"

Fixed.

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Aaantlion
08/14/19 10:19:30 PM
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It's an interesting, but weird argument. Even if it was completely true, the problem is that it seems like an appeal to tradition... and a largely unnecessary appeal. If you're arguing that life begins at conception, the circumstances of the birth wouldn't change whether or not abortion is murder. Therefore people who argue against abortion logically shouldn't be baking in exemptions like these, especially since the unborn child did nothing wrong. The *only* exemption that might come into play is one where the mother's life was threatened, because then it's one life vs another.

Conversely, if you're arguing that abortion is legal because unborn children aren't people, then they shouldn't be treated as people under other contexts -- such as when they count as an additional victim in a death.

wolfy42 posted...
His argument is stupid though, of course humanity would exist, and considering all the suffering that would have been avoided, it might be slightly kinder.


He's talking about removing the progeny born through rape or incest, not stopping the crimes/events themselves. And given the length of human history and how interwoven everything else, the effects of removing everybody born under those circumstances would be unfathomable. If you deleted all bloodlines resulting from rape or incest, it's entirely possible that would nuke the entire current human population.

darkknight109 posted...
Remember in 2012 when Todd Akin gave that cringey "legitimate rape" comment and everyone - including Republicans - agreed it was fucking terrible and basically blackballed him?

Man, those were good times. Back when a dumbfuck comment would be met with condemnation instead of people rushing to explain why it actually was a totally fine thing to say.


The difference with Todd Akin's remark is that it referenced some fake bodily defense mechanism and therefore had no basis in reality. By contrast, a lot of human bloodlines have rape and incest in them.

Yellow posted...
"What if we went back through all the family trees and just pulled those people out that were products of rape and incest? Would there be any population of the world left if we did that?" he said at in Urbandale, Iowa. "Considering all the wars and all the rapes and pillages taken place and whatever happened to culture after society? I know I can't certify that I'm not a part of a product of that."

I like how this is a completely asinine and incorrect thing to say outside of being totally disgusting. He also has no clue how this whole "evolution" thing works.

The rapists wouldn't pass on their genes, and the rest of humanity would take up their space. Dumbshit.


Except that's not what he's talking about at all. However, if you did want to take a scifi-esque argument involving an alternate timeline where every union not born of consent and through non-relatives had died by some magical means, humanity would still most likely be fucked because the birth rate would drastically decline while the murder rate would probably stay about the same. (Especially if you're counting cousins under incest.)

The rapists themselves not passing along their genes wouldn't necessarily change unless you believe that only the children of rapists grow up to be rapists, which I'm not sure has any basis in reality.
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_Fiftyfour54_
08/14/19 10:23:43 PM
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Sounds like you're just projecting what you WISH he meant. Not only does he condemns both ideas, he NEVER stated that there was a justification
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Mead
08/14/19 10:32:32 PM
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If I projected what I wished the man said, Id have made no topic at all because he never would have spoken in the first place. The man is an ignorant, small, hateful creature.

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Cacciato
08/14/19 11:23:49 PM
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_Fiftyfour54_ posted...
Sounds like you're just projecting what you WISH he meant. Not only does he condemns both ideas, he NEVER stated that there was a justification

Fucking stop making accounts
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BlackScythe0
08/15/19 3:52:08 AM
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Well bluntly his statement can't be dismissed as false out of hand, tribes would fight for food and women.

It's just the ignorance of trying to say it's ok do deny women rights today because they didn't have rights back then.
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ZeroKelvin
08/15/19 4:00:37 AM
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Fuck these Republicans are such irredeemable scum
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dioxxys
08/15/19 6:41:22 AM
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Rape is doodoo but incest is wincest
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GanglyKhan
08/15/19 7:50:46 AM
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I don't think it's wrong to think that out of context, but considering the venue he was at and why he said it? Big difference there lol His question about "would there be any population left?" is also grossly misguided. Of course there would be.
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GanglyKhan
08/15/19 7:52:06 AM
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ZeroKelvin posted...
Fuck these Republicans are such irredeemable scum


Generalizing groups of people as being the same is a tatic often used by developing children and less intelligent adults to simplify the world. Are you that kind of person?
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ZeroKelvin
08/15/19 5:10:12 PM
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GanglyKhan posted...
ZeroKelvin posted...
Fuck these Republicans are such irredeemable scum


Generalizing groups of people as being the same is a tatic often used by developing children and less intelligent adults to simplify the world. Are you that kind of person?

When it happens over and over and over and their GOP colleagues refuse to take them to task over such vile shit its an extremely fair generalization
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BlackScythe0
08/15/19 5:23:42 PM
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ZeroKelvin posted...
GanglyKhan posted...
ZeroKelvin posted...
Fuck these Republicans are such irredeemable scum


Generalizing groups of people as being the same is a tatic often used by developing children and less intelligent adults to simplify the world. Are you that kind of person?

When it happens over and over and over and their GOP colleagues refuse to take them to task over such vile shit its an extremely fair generalization

Republicans can't do anything.

How can they do something about King and then explain how they do nothing about Trump?
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Mead
08/15/19 5:31:53 PM
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Just a couple years ago republicans actually would call out someone like King and say he isnt representative of their party. Now theyre terrified though of pissing off the Trump base so they dont dare going out of their way to distance themselves from hateful or ignorant statements.

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
08/15/19 5:38:41 PM
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Mead posted...
Just a couple years ago republicans actually would call out someone like King and say he isnt representative of their party. Now theyre terrified though of pissing off the Trump base so they dont dare going out of their way to distance themselves from hateful or ignorant statements.

Which is beyond cowardly.
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dioxxys
08/15/19 5:51:50 PM
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Mead posted...
Just a couple years ago republicans actually would call out someone like King and say he isnt representative of their party. Now theyre terrified though of pissing off the Trump base so they dont dare going out of their way to distance themselves from hateful or ignorant statements.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/15/republicans-trump-steve-king-iowa-congressman-racism
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/14/steve-king-1463539
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/republicans-condemn-steve-king-offensive-rape-incest-comments/

Just googling "republicans condemning steve king" nets you tons of results.
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Mead
08/15/19 6:12:53 PM
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dioxxys posted...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/15/republicans-trump-steve-king-iowa-congressman-racism
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/14/steve-king-1463539
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/republicans-condemn-steve-king-offensive-rape-incest-comments/

Just googling "republicans condemning steve king" nets you tons of results.


A rarity nowadays, but at least they did that much

also your third link just says that the republican running for his seat called him out about it, lol

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dioxxys
08/15/19 9:23:14 PM
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Still a republican
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Mead
08/15/19 9:30:13 PM
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dioxxys posted...
Still a republican


Excellent work cadet

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dioxxys
08/16/19 12:00:36 AM
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I mean you said it like he didnt count
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Mead
08/16/19 12:16:22 AM
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dioxxys posted...
I mean you said it like he didnt count




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GanglyKhan
08/16/19 7:18:48 AM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Mead posted...
Just a couple years ago republicans actually would call out someone like King and say he isnt representative of their party. Now theyre terrified though of pissing off the Trump base so they dont dare going out of their way to distance themselves from hateful or ignorant statements.

Which is beyond cowardly.

Have you seen the state of the democratic party lately? The last thing we need is for the other major party being splintered apart just as hard. It's a case of keeping the ship together until they get to shore, then they can worry about other things. I'm not justifying King at all, but I think it's survival instinct kicking in for the party.
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BeerOnTap
08/16/19 8:44:20 AM
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wolfy42 posted...
But it's just a republican, nothing new here.


Except the entirety of the Republican Party voted to Censure him and hes gonna likely be ousted in a primary.

Meanwhile we have Democrat house members being blatantly antisemitic and the Dems seemed to go right along with it.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
08/19/19 12:48:16 AM
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GanglyKhan posted...
FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Mead posted...
Just a couple years ago republicans actually would call out someone like King and say he isnt representative of their party. Now theyre terrified though of pissing off the Trump base so they dont dare going out of their way to distance themselves from hateful or ignorant statements.

Which is beyond cowardly.

Have you seen the state of the democratic party lately? The last thing we need is for the other major party being splintered apart just as hard. It's a case of keeping the ship together until they get to shore, then they can worry about other things. I'm not justifying King at all, but I think it's survival instinct kicking in for the party.

Ya sorta are justifying it. I never mentioned the DNC. You did as a deflect.
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Mead
08/19/19 2:19:38 PM
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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/steve-king-rape-incest-apology-town-hall

The man is now demanding an apology from the media for his own comments

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Phantom_Nook
08/19/19 2:25:30 PM
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He had a town hall that two people attended.
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ClarkDuke
08/19/19 2:45:05 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
He had a town hall that two people attended.

how sad, ok?
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zebatov
08/19/19 3:00:58 PM
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Your title makes it sound better than their title.

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Mead
08/20/19 3:43:04 AM
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Poor guy just lost half his supporters

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/08/19/rep-steve-king-town-hall-jessica-birch-only-attendee-keilar-sot-crn-vpx.cnn

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