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Vlado
08/13/19 4:25:12 AM
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The new moderation system is terrible. You can't even contest a warning to lead mod or admin anymore. You can only contest anything once, and then they "vote" on it. Given the prevailing political climate in the US, do you think most of the mods are liberal or conservative? Yeah... Good luck contesting any post with conservative leaning that someone decided to delete.

Before, the mods wouldn't want to tarnish their reputation by deleting things they don't like that didn't break the rules. You could contest them to lead mod or admin, and get them overturned. It's happened to me a few times, albeit rarely. The ones who deleted your message and then confirmed the initial moderation would look bad in the eyes of their "boss." That would make them wary of deleting just anything that they don't like. Now, when it's put to a "vote," anyone with non-politically correct opinions is screwed.

Some mod could show up here to explain how that's not true, etc. But let's not fool ourselves. When personal responsibility is taken away with this "voting" on whether a moderation is fair, and the moderation is on a message they disagree with, how will they vote? Let's not pretend all the mods are or could possibly be impartial, either - we know some of them.
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Nanis23
08/13/19 4:28:15 AM
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Provide examples please

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Vlado
08/13/19 4:37:12 AM
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Most recent was man-made climate change skepticism.
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Vlado
08/13/19 5:30:44 AM
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Yeah, the rules are far from clear in many instances. Sure, they list some clear examples. But not even once has a deleted message of mine fitted one of those. "Trolling" is completely arbitrary outside of the case they give (go on a game board and say the game sucks without providing explanation).
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MariaTaylor
08/13/19 5:55:14 AM
#7:


usually when I get marked it's some crybaby trying to censor me after I proved them wrong, although I usually just get 'flagged without deletion.' granted, I'd still do it even if I was penalized each time. being able to tell stupid people that they are stupid is fundamental to my experience as a free american.
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TomNook
08/13/19 5:55:54 AM
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As someone who is super neutral, I've had a few messages deleted with 3KL because I didn't pick a side and the left felt I was offensive. I don't really get it. These injustices won't cause me to take the right's side, which I know some people hope for, but I stay neutral.
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__LeiaRolando__
08/13/19 10:01:49 AM
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People are too easily offended these days - and some people will be offended by me saying that - so I try to stay out of politics. People who have had distorted values instilled in them by the news media just don't take reality checks well, so I stay away. I feel that this makes my moderate-conservative viewpoints censored to some effect, but I'm kind of okay with that. In the open spaces of the Internets, at least.
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Corrik7
08/13/19 10:31:01 AM
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I've been moderated one time in the last 6 months and it was because I said I felt FF7R is rumored to split after a certain event in it. I was moderated for spoilers, despite multiple topics with that event in their titles and threads openly all over the board for the game. *Shrug*
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Hbthebattle
08/13/19 10:55:59 AM
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srUXjjJ
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Espeon
08/13/19 11:04:26 AM
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womp womp
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Peace___Frog
08/13/19 11:14:09 AM
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__LeiaRolando__ posted...
People are too easily offended these days - and some people will be offended by me saying that - so I try to stay out of politics. People who have had distorted values instilled in them by the news media just don't take reality checks well, so I stay away. I feel that this makes my moderate-conservative viewpoints censored to some effect, but I'm kind of okay with that. In the open spaces of the Internets, at least.

What a cute persecution complex
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foolm0r0n
08/13/19 12:14:21 PM
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Vlado posted...
Before, the mods wouldn't want to tarnish their reputation by deleting things they don't like that didn't break the rules

lmao

The fact is all your moderations that were overturned before were highly politically-correct. You found a lead mod that agreed with what you said and overturned you despite it being a violation. You were protected constantly by the Trump drones that run this forum.

I didn't see what post you got warned for this time, and I'm sure it wasn't a violation deserving of deletion at all, but at least this time you're not being saved by a corrupted leadership. You're back in the throes of injustice like the rest of us who actually post non-PC things.
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HanOfTheNekos
08/13/19 12:44:17 PM
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TomNook posted...
As someone who is super neutral,


lol
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TomNook
08/13/19 4:49:26 PM
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HanOfTheNekos posted...
TomNook posted...
As someone who is super neutral,


lol

I recently found out that people were confusing me for another user, so this is probably the same situation for you.
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red13n
08/13/19 5:21:25 PM
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Fair, next.
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red13n
08/13/19 5:22:06 PM
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TomNook posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
TomNook posted...
As someone who is super neutral,


lol

I recently found out that people were confusing me for another user, so this is probably the same situation for you.


Most are not aware that TomNook and TomNook7 are not the same person.
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Waluigi1
08/13/19 5:42:50 PM
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red13n posted...
Fair, next.

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Mr Lasastryke
08/13/19 5:45:42 PM
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red13n posted...
Most are not aware that TomNook and TomNook7 are not the same person.


this particular tomnook stated that he was "drunk from celebrating" after trump won and visits the_donald. pretty sure he's not as "neutral" as he continually keeps claiming he is, especially since he also pointed out that "the left" finds him offensive.
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TomNook
08/13/19 5:54:00 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
red13n posted...
Most are not aware that TomNook and TomNook7 are not the same person.


this particular tomnook stated that he was "drunk from celebrating" after trump won and visits the_donald. pretty sure he's not as "neutral" as he continually keeps claiming he is, especially since he also pointed out that "the left" finds him offensive.

Way to read my replies afterward.

Also 2nd part of that isn't even true. You disappoint me now.

Gave you benefit of the doubt before. Guess you are a troll.
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Gatarix
08/13/19 5:59:34 PM
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red13n posted...
Most are not aware that TomNook and TomNook7 are not the same person.

...

wait what
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foolm0r0n
08/13/19 6:11:21 PM
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red13n posted...
Most are not aware that TomNook and TomNook7 are not the same person.

what

I was so confused why Nook became a hyper centrist
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Mr Lasastryke
08/13/19 6:17:04 PM
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TomNook posted...
Also 2nd part of that isn't even true.


i'd love to know how you immediately knew what the twitter account of the dayton shooter was when literally the only place that reported this at the time was the_donald.
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Grimlyn
08/13/19 6:17:42 PM
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TomNook7 posted [p:909291230] in I havent b... [t:77031949]...
BlueCrystalTear posted...
I'm pretty sure there are other "TomNook" accounts now that are different people. This is the first guy who was here back in the heyday.


Lol thank you for this. I was reading the Smash 5 topic and noticed TomNook. That guy gives me the creeps

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TomNook
08/13/19 6:40:53 PM
#26:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
TomNook posted...
Also 2nd part of that isn't even true.


i'd love to know how you immediately knew what the twitter account of the dayton shooter was when literally the only place that reported this at the time was the_donald.

Maybe the only place you saw. And maybe other sources who found it, found it there. That's none of my concern. The fact that you think it was the only source, keep going to this really random moment in general, and follow me into topics bringing it up out of nowhere, is very telling of your character.
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Mr Lasastryke
08/13/19 6:46:10 PM
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lol just because i went into this topic and saw one of your posts and responded to it doesn't mean i'm "following you into topics." the fact that you think i'm stalking you reveals that you have more than a little paranoia.
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TomNook
08/13/19 6:48:05 PM
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Well you did. Just pointing out the facts. If it happens less in the future, then you'll prove it to be false.
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Shaduln
08/13/19 6:50:14 PM
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I love how all of this could just be resolved by you telling us what your source was.
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TomNook
08/13/19 6:51:12 PM
#30:


Shaduln posted...
I love how all of this could just be resolved by you telling us what your source was.

I posted in the topic that someone mentioned it in a Discord. There was no source. They just posted the twitter account, so I clicked it.
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Shaduln
08/13/19 6:52:07 PM
#31:


Makes sense to me!
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Mr Lasastryke
08/13/19 6:53:36 PM
#32:


fair enough.

not sure why you were secretive about it for so long, though.
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TomNook
08/13/19 6:54:08 PM
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Shaduln posted...
Makes sense to me!

Exactly. That's why I didn't mention it. People wanted to hate me for posting it (which btw, later got confirmed by all the news channels, after the topic was locked). I still don't know what people's issue was with that. Pretty mind blowing tbh.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
fair enough.

not sure why you were secretive about it for so long, though.


I just didn't think a source was relevant. I didn't want anyone asking for a source as if they were fishing for some lean to the reason I was posting it. And also because I knew people would say "but what where did the person get it? what kind of Discord is this? etc..." I just clicked it, it looked legit, so I posted it.
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Mr Lasastryke
08/13/19 7:03:28 PM
#34:


TomNook posted...
People wanted to hate me for posting it (which btw, later got confirmed by all the news channels, after the topic was locked). I still don't know what people's issue was with that. Pretty mind blowing tbh.


i didn't hate you for posting it but there was really no reason to bring it up. it seemed like your point was "see, people all over the political spectrum do horrible things!" which is... well, duh. only idiots think only people on the right commit mass shootings and acts of terrorism. even if you had the noble intention of uniting the left and the right, when you try to do so by stating something super obvious in the middle of a discussion, it just annoys people.
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TomNook
08/13/19 7:07:11 PM
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I was posting something I found regarding a recent event, and I wanted to restore balance to the discussion. The world needs balance. If there is too much evil, one must add good. If there is too much good, one must add evil. Everything needs to be balanced.
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foolm0r0n
08/13/19 7:16:13 PM
#36:


You know Thanos is the bad guy in that movie right?
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TomNook
08/13/19 7:16:33 PM
#37:


I'm just giving Lasa shit to dig up in 2023.
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Mr Lasastryke
08/13/19 7:19:00 PM
#38:


qui-gon jinn is a good guy though
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TheRock1525
08/13/19 7:25:13 PM
#39:


He's really not.
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Peace___Frog
08/13/19 8:07:55 PM
#40:


TomNook posted...
Also you stalking me in topics now is harassment.

I've read a lot of stupid things but this sure is up there
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Corrik7
08/13/19 8:17:06 PM
#41:


Highly doubt the source originated in the Donald anyways. I am sure the Donald got it from somewhere else and went wild with it.

I was able to simply pull up the same information by googling what he said and get it from a website. (The heavy).

Surely the others in the topic were just as capable of a simple google search. Which leads me to believe they were just trying to see where he said so they could label him.
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MariaTaylor
08/13/19 8:45:49 PM
#42:


TomNook posted...
People wanted to hate me for posting it (which btw, later got confirmed by all the news channels, after the topic was locked). I still don't know what people's issue was with that.


they do this all the time. if you post something they don't like, they will hyena swarm you over it, attacking you and your sources, your character, and your credibility from all angles. then in a few weeks or a month when it's proven true they'll all just move on to the next thing and attack you about that.
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Mr Lasastryke
08/13/19 8:58:06 PM
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uh, spoilers: tomnook's representation of what happened is bullshit. the thing people took issue with was that he was unwilling to provide his source for his claim that the dayton shooter supported antifa (which wasn't unreasonable at all - keep in mind that at the time the shootings had just happened and we were still in the process of finding out new information about them) and he refused to provide it for no discernable reason. literally nobody said "I HATE YOU FOR POSTING THIS."

not sure why he would misrepresent what happened - the topic is still up so anyone can check for themselves how it went down: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77912710

(also lol @ "they do this all the time." who the fuck are "they"?)
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Drakeryn
08/13/19 9:00:30 PM
#44:


do you remember about where in the topic it was? I'm curious, but not enough to read a 500 topic
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TomNook
08/13/19 9:02:42 PM
#45:


I posted the shooter's very own twitter. There is no lean to that. It was just the facts.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
the thing people took issue with was that he was unwilling to provide his source

Corrik7 posted...
Which leads me to believe they were just trying to see where he said so they could label him.

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Mr Lasastryke
08/13/19 9:03:05 PM
#46:


Drakeryn posted...
do you remember about where in the topic it was? I'm curious, but not enough to read a 500 topic


it started at post #252
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MariaTaylor
08/13/19 9:03:53 PM
#47:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
(also lol @ "they do this all the time." who the fuck are "they"?)


you know who you are.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
uh, spoilers: tomnook's representation of what happened is bullshit. the thing people took issue with was that he was unwilling to provide his source for his claim that the dayton shooter supported antifa (which wasn't unreasonable at all - keep in mind that at the time the shootings had just happened and we were still in the process of finding out new information about them) and he refused to provide it for no discernable reason.


I know. I read the topic. this is the part I'm referring to. this is what you guys do. you literally sit in a topic making smug remarks in response to unverified twitter posts all day long, and then as soon as someone posts something you don't like it's always SOURCE??? SOURCE???

suddenly you become harvard intellectuals.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
literally nobody said "I HATE YOU FOR POSTING THIS."


cool. this is not what I accused you guys of doing.
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Mr Lasastryke
08/13/19 9:05:49 PM
#48:


TomNook posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Which leads me to believe they were just trying to see where he said so they could label him.


not sure why you would be so cynical about our motives. i myself was genuinely curious where you had found the information as (as i said in the topic) even fucking infowars wasn't saying he was an antifa supporter at the time. thought that if there was word about this, they'd be among the first to report it.
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Mr Lasastryke
08/13/19 9:08:14 PM
#49:


MariaTaylor posted...
and then as soon as someone posts something you don't like it's always SOURCE??? SOURCE???

suddenly you become harvard intellectuals.


itt you have to be a harvard intellectual to be asking for a source about an aspect of a news story that nobody is reporting on
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Corrik7
08/13/19 9:10:30 PM
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He gave you the source. The guy's Twitter.
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