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pinky0926 08/05/19 6:16:10 AM #1:	You have one path through the entire game. Your characters can only progress in a single direction. Right up until you go to Sin, there is no deviation from any of this. The most choice you get is with Kimahri, who pretty much sucks anyway. I guess this is also why it's one of the most superbly balanced RPG games I've ever played. No coincidence that as soon as you get the airsihp the entire balance of the game gets royally screwed up. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:925643077] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>You have one path through the entire game. Your characters can only progress in a single direction. Right up until you go to Sin, there is no deviation from any of this. The most choice you get is with Kimahri, who pretty much sucks anyway. I guess this is also why it's one of the most superbly balanced RPG games I've ever played. No coincidence that as soon as you get the airsihp the entire balance of the game gets royally screwed up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 08/05/19 6:21:09 AM #2:	You do get one choice ~~Who lives out of Luzzu and Gatta~~ --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:925643131] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>You do get one choice Who lives out of Luzzu and Gatta</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/05/19 6:27:31 AM #3:	As scripted as an RPG can get tbh --- My mind is an open book, do you find it entertaining? At least be original in your responses then. "Don't call me a God, call me a Sadist" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:925643216] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>As scripted as an RPG can get tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 08/05/19 6:27:34 AM #4:	It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too --- https://imgur.com/nGZeEqw Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:925643217] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Awesker002 08/05/19 6:29:41 AM #5:	If you use the international sphere grid all the characters can go down any path they want. --- Detroit Lions 6-10 Keep calm and Kerryon https://imgur.com/EhXehEc <cite>Awesker002 posted [p:925643243] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>If you use the international sphere grid all the characters can go down any path they want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 08/05/19 6:33:45 AM #6:	NinjaBreakfast posted... It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too Difference is what it feels like. FFXIII felt like running down a corridor. FFX felt like exploring a world. --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:925643282] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote>It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too</quote> Difference is what it feels like. FFXIII felt like running down a corridor. FFX felt like exploring a world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strider102 08/05/19 6:34:13 AM #7:	NinjaBreakfast posted... It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too Because you can go back to previous areas in X. Which only really matters if you're a completionist or missed a primer or the Anima sidequest. --- Strider is something of a god of equine necro-brutality--Master ZED <cite>Strider102 posted [p:925643288] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>NinjaBreakfast posted... </cite> <quote>It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too</quote> Because you can go back to previous areas in X. Which only really matters if you're a completionist or missed a primer or the Anima sidequest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TreyFlowers 08/05/19 6:34:32 AM #8:	Yeah there's really not much you "do" until the airship The whole game is basically a giant cutscene especially the first half. Run to screen > 5min cutscene Run to next screen > 10min cutscene Still one of my all time favourite games. --- PATRIOTS Tom Brady objectively has six rings. <cite>TreyFlowers posted [p:925643294] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Yeah there's really not much you "do" until the airship The whole game is basically a giant cutscene especially the first half. Run to screen > 5min cutscene Run to next screen > 10min cutscene Still one of my all time favourite games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 08/05/19 6:38:28 AM #9:	TreyFlowers posted... Yeah there's really not much you "do" until the airship The whole game is basically a giant cutscene especially the first half. Run to screen > 5min cutscene Run to next screen > 10min cutscene Still one of my all time favourite games. I'd say the boss battles are extremely well done, though. Because the game is so linear, they were able to create bosses who are a challenge at every stage, and require your most recent abilities to beat. You can only end up overlevelled if you be pedantic as fuck and make sure every character participates in every random encounter. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:925643341] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>TreyFlowers posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah there's really not much you "do" until the airship The whole game is basically a giant cutscene especially the first half. Run to screen > 5min cutscene Run to next screen > 10min cutscene Still one of my all time favourite games. </quote> I'd say the boss battles are extremely well done, though. Because the game is so linear, they were able to create bosses who are a challenge at every stage, and require your most recent abilities to beat. You can only end up overlevelled if you be pedantic as fuck and make sure every character participates in every random encounter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 08/05/19 6:43:03 AM #10:	pinky0926 posted... they were able to create bosses who are a challenge at every stage Erm... --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:925643409] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>they were able to create bosses who are a challenge at every stage</quote> Erm...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Modifier 08/05/19 6:43:55 AM #11:	Maze_ posted... NinjaBreakfast posted... It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too Difference is what it feels like. FFXIII felt like running down a corridor. FFX felt like exploring a world. Pretty much this. --- Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo. <cite>Modifier posted [p:925643421] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted...</cite> <quote>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote>It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too</quote> Difference is what it feels like. FFXIII felt like running down a corridor. FFX felt like exploring a world.</quote> Pretty much this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 08/05/19 6:45:08 AM #12:	Maze_ posted... pinky0926 posted... they were able to create bosses who are a challenge at every stage Erm... A challenge for the first playthrough. A lot of those bosses are tough man. Seymour Flux, Yunalesca, Everae, Sanctuary Keeper. If you don't know what's coming and how to deal with them they will curbstomp you. --- CE's Resident Scotsman.* https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:925643438] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>they were able to create bosses who are a challenge at every stage</quote> Erm...</quote> *A challenge for the first playthrough. A lot of those bosses are tough man. Seymour Flux, Yunalesca, Everae, Sanctuary Keeper. If you don't know what's coming and how to deal with them they will curbstomp you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VictourieFlake 08/05/19 6:45:47 AM #13:	Tidus stronk, very hahahahaha Lightning weako, female copy of cloudo. <cite>VictourieFlake posted [p:925643449] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Tidus stronk, very hahahahaha Lightning weako, female copy of cloudo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 08/05/19 6:49:43 AM #14:	pinky0926 posted... Maze_ posted... pinky0926 posted... they were able to create bosses who are a challenge at every stage Erm... A challenge for the first playthrough. A lot of those bosses are tough man. Seymour Flux, Yunalesca, Everae, Sanctuary Keeper. If you don't know what's coming and how to deal with them they will curbstomp you. ah, Yunalesca. i had a hard time with her instant death until i learned that you shouldn't cure your zombie status because it made you immune to death. --- You have the right to remain silent. anything you post will be misquoted, then be used against you. <cite>Ricemills posted [p:925643497] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>they were able to create bosses who are a challenge at every stage</quote> Erm...</quote> A challenge for the first playthrough. A lot of those bosses are tough man. Seymour Flux, Yunalesca, Everae, Sanctuary Keeper. If you don't know what's coming and how to deal with them they will curbstomp you.</quote> ah, Yunalesca. i had a hard time with her instant death until i learned that you shouldn't cure your zombie status because it made you immune to death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 08/05/19 6:51:12 AM #15:	I found it pretty easy >_> Even did a NSG run and found that pretty easy too. FFX is not a difficult game, you have so many tools and it's turnbased. And let's not even mention Attack Reels --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:925643511] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>I found it pretty easy >_> Even did a NSG run and found that pretty easy too. FFX is not a difficult game, you have so many tools and it's turnbased. And let's not even mention Attack Reels</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strider102 08/05/19 6:51:30 AM #16:	If XIII had taken place entirely on Gran Pulse it might have had a different feel. The Cocoon portion makes up the majority of the game. In a way it makes sense how they did XIII. Everyone is afraid and the characters have to keep moving forward and can't go back, but people hate stuff like that. --- Strider is something of a god of equine necro-brutality--Master ZED <cite>Strider102 posted [p:925643519] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>If XIII had taken place entirely on Gran Pulse it might have had a different feel. The Cocoon portion makes up the majority of the game. In a way it makes sense how they did XIII. Everyone is afraid and the characters have to keep moving forward and can't go back, but people hate stuff like that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 08/05/19 6:57:30 AM #17:	Maze_ posted... felt like running down a corridor. X definitely felt like this too on plenty of occasions. --- https://imgur.com/nGZeEqw Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:925643605] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted...</cite> <quote>felt like running down a corridor.</quote> X definitely felt like this too on plenty of occasions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 08/05/19 6:58:30 AM #18:	There's some like idk forest area which is so blatantly just a long corridor and they try to make it look like it isn't but it blates is and it's annoying --- https://imgur.com/nGZeEqw Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:925643626] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>There's some like idk forest area which is so blatantly just a long corridor and they try to make it look like it isn't but it blates is and it's annoying</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 08/05/19 6:59:38 AM #19:	NinjaBreakfast posted... There's some like idk forest area which is so blatantly just a long corridor and they try to make it look like it isn't but it blates is and it's annoying Most of the game is just a series of corridors, except for the calm lands, which is a pointless barren wasteland with a couple of different exits. God I hate the calm lands. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:925643635] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote>There's some like idk forest area which is so blatantly just a long corridor and they try to make it look like it isn't but it blates is and it's annoying</quote> Most of the game is just a series of corridors, except for the calm lands, which is a pointless barren wasteland with a couple of different exits. God I hate the calm lands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Modifier 08/05/19 7:11:24 AM #20:	Strider102 posted... In a way it makes sense how they did XIII. Everyone is afraid and the characters have to keep moving forward and can't go back, but people hate stuff like that. Why wasn't FF VII made like that, then? Characters were also on the run. --- Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo. <cite>Modifier posted [p:925643817] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Strider102 posted...</cite> <quote>In a way it makes sense how they did XIII. Everyone is afraid and the characters have to keep moving forward and can't go back, but people hate stuff like that. </quote> Why wasn't FF VII made like that, then? Characters were also on the run.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 08/05/19 7:12:43 AM #21:	NinjaBreakfast posted... It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too It annoys me how people pretend there's no difference when there clearly is. Also, X gets criticized for its linearity all the time, so its just wrong. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:925643841] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote>It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too</quote> It annoys me how people pretend there's no difference when there clearly is. Also, X gets criticized for its linearity all the time, so its just wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RTruthLILJimmy 08/05/19 7:13:37 AM #22:	FFX is linear but they try to make it not feel that way! So youre saying its a great, well made game. I agree! --- http://imgon.net/di-XZC0.gif <cite>RTruthLILJimmy posted [p:925643854] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>FFX is linear but they try to make it not feel that way! So youre saying its a great, well made game. I agree!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 08/05/19 7:17:51 AM #23:	Hey FFX is one of my favourite games of all time, I'm just remarking on how incredibly linear it is. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:925643916] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Hey FFX is one of my favourite games of all time, I'm just remarking on how incredibly linear it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToadallyAwesome 08/05/19 7:18:51 AM #24:	The first Seymour fight can be a kick in the dick. As a kid even with the guide it was not easy. And god was it fun to go back with a game shark to just 9999 him in nothing flat. It is now but I know how to play those games now. When I was a kid I only knew how to brute force things. I never thought to go level up or running from battles would be bad. --- https://imgur.com/QKdxwuI <cite>ToadallyAwesome posted [p:925643928] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>The first Seymour fight can be a kick in the dick. As a kid even with the guide it was not easy. And god was it fun to go back with a game shark to just 9999 him in nothing flat. It is now but I know how to play those games now. When I was a kid I only knew how to brute force things. I never thought to go level up or running from battles would be bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RTruthLILJimmy 08/05/19 7:19:24 AM #25:	Well shes on a pilgrimage where shes on a specific path to specific places. --- http://imgon.net/di-XZC0.gif <cite>RTruthLILJimmy posted [p:925643936] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Well shes on a pilgrimage where shes on a specific path to specific places.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 08/05/19 7:20:07 AM #26:	pinky0926 posted... You can only end up overlevelled if you be pedantic as fuck and make sure every character participates in every random encounter I guess I was a pedantic bastard then cause I always included everyone in battle when I played this game --- https://imgur.com/PHWbltB <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:925643943] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite> <quote>You can only end up overlevelled if you be pedantic as fuck and make sure every character participates in every random encounter</quote> I guess I was a pedantic bastard then cause I always included everyone in battle when I played this game </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 08/05/19 7:24:23 AM #27:	Twin3Turbo posted... pinky0926 posted... You can only end up overlevelled if you be pedantic as fuck and make sure every character participates in every random encounter I guess I was a pedantic bastard then cause I always included everyone in battle when I played this game Same, but if you do that you'll probably not have too much trouble with any boss. I remember my first playthrough I struggled though, especially with Evrae. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:925644009] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite> <quote>You can only end up overlevelled if you be pedantic as fuck and make sure every character participates in every random encounter</quote> I guess I was a pedantic bastard then cause I always included everyone in battle when I played this game </quote> Same, but if you do that you'll probably not have too much trouble with any boss. I remember my first playthrough I struggled though, especially with Evrae.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 08/05/19 7:33:36 AM #28:	Maze_ posted... You do get one choice ~~Who lives out of Luzzu and Gatta~~ ~~Clasko's fate~~ --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:925644153] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted...</cite> <quote>You do get one choice Who lives out of Luzzu and Gatta</quote> Clasko's fate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 08/05/19 7:34:50 AM #29:	I wish the game gave you the option to have Shelinda killed while sexually naked. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:925644180] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>I wish the game gave you the option to have Shelinda killed while sexually naked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 08/05/19 7:37:09 AM #30:	Oh. And spoiler alert for all story bosses but this guide is the greatest thing. It's what allowed me to finally "finish" a NSGNSNO run. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Qft-LVGgI" data-time=" --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:925644208] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Oh. And spoiler alert for all story bosses but this guide is the greatest thing. It's what allowed me to finally "finish" a NSGNSNO run. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Qft-LVGgI" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 08/05/19 7:37:35 AM #31:	DeadBankerDream posted... I wish the game gave you the option to have Shelinda killed while sexually naked. How does one become sexually naked, as opposed to just regular naked --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:925644213] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted...</cite> <quote>I wish the game gave you the option to have Shelinda killed while sexually naked.</quote> How does one become sexually naked, as opposed to just regular naked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 08/05/19 7:38:22 AM #32:	It's a family secret. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:925644225] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>It's a family secret.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 08/05/19 8:09:55 AM #33:	NinjaBreakfast posted... It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too I remember X got dunked on when it was new. I was surprised in recent years to see how well its ended up being received by the fandom. I always liked it though >_> --- https://i.imgtc.com/8ePXf9B.gif If Yamcha would have brought his bat along he'd have blasted Jiren out of the ring like Ness in smash brothers. - Gids_goft <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:925644781] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>NinjaBreakfast posted... </cite> <quote>It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too</quote> I remember X got dunked on when it was new. I was surprised in recent years to see how well its ended up being received by the fandom. I always liked it though >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 08/05/19 8:19:26 AM #34:	pinky0926 posted... Hey FFX is one of my favourite games of all time, I'm just remarking on how incredibly linear it is. Being linear isn't a bad thing by default --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:925644998] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>Hey FFX is one of my favourite games of all time, I'm just remarking on how incredibly linear it is.</quote> Being linear isn't a bad thing by default</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 08/05/19 8:32:56 AM #35:	Yeah this has been a regular criticism of the game since it came out. That and the cloisters. I didn't really mind the linearity though. It does feel linear to me but that's not bad. I also like blitzball which gives you an excuse to break up the action on occasion --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:925645289] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Yeah this has been a regular criticism of the game since it came out. That and the cloisters. I didn't really mind the linearity though. It does feel linear to me but that's not bad. I also like blitzball which gives you an excuse to break up the action on occasion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 08/05/19 9:41:59 AM #36:	pinky0926 posted... How does one become sexually naked, as opposed to just regular naked It's how they try and hide certain parts that are very much exposed. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:925647266] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote>How does one become sexually naked, as opposed to just regular naked</quote> It's how they try and hide certain parts that are very much exposed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Touch 08/05/19 9:44:14 AM #37:	Maze_ posted... Being linear isn't a bad thing by default Yep. I feel like it's one of those things people put out there to try and grasp at SOMETHING to bash FFX about. That and the infamous laughing scene. --- https://imgtc.com/i/bC2YZz9.jpg <cite>Touch posted [p:925647341] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted... </cite> <quote>Being linear isn't a bad thing by default</quote>Yep. I feel like it's one of those things people put out there to try and grasp at SOMETHING to bash FFX about. That and the infamous laughing scene. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RTruthLILJimmy 08/05/19 9:52:52 AM #39:	Linear Metal Gear Solid is SO MUCH fucking better than mindless open world bullshit Metal Gear Solid. --- http://imgon.net/di-XZC0.gif <cite>RTruthLILJimmy posted [p:925647614] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Linear Metal Gear Solid is SO MUCH fucking better than mindless open world bullshit Metal Gear Solid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 08/05/19 10:19:12 AM #41:	EIiza posted... Illusion of choice is better than no choice. But I think FFX's linearity worked because you have a clearly defined goal from pretty much the beginning of the game. You have to make it to Zanarkand, and you are literally on a pilgrimage. So the linear story doesn't feel limiting so much as it feels like progression. That's one of the key differences between FF10 and 13. 10's narrative is very complimentary to its linear progression. Whereas in 13, you're fugitives from the law with a thousand possible options at your hand, but the gameplay casts them all aside for the sake of a narrowly defined hallway which has no choices, often requiring you to run into the direct path of innocent soldiers just wanting to protect their family, when clearly you could just have walked like 10 meters to the side and not have brutally murdered them. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:925648402] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>EIiza posted...</cite> <quote>Illusion of choice is better than no choice. But I think FFX's linearity worked because you have a clearly defined goal from pretty much the beginning of the game. You have to make it to Zanarkand, and you are literally on a pilgrimage. So the linear story doesn't feel limiting so much as it feels like progression.</quote> That's one of the key differences between FF10 and 13. 10's narrative is very complimentary to its linear progression. Whereas in 13, you're fugitives from the law with a thousand possible options at your hand, but the gameplay casts them all aside for the sake of a narrowly defined hallway which has no choices, often requiring you to run into the direct path of innocent soldiers just wanting to protect their family, when clearly you could just have walked like 10 meters to the side and not have brutally murdered them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 08/05/19 10:23:49 AM #42:	x is an incredible illusion of being a good game NinjaBreakfast posted... It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too i feel like people that praised x then shat on xii is why we got xiii --- https://imgur.com/O5APL http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:925648541] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>x is an incredible illusion of being a good game NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote>It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too</quote> i feel like people that praised x then shat on xii is why we got xiii</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 08/05/19 10:26:40 AM #43:	Its hard to notice sometimes because the damn encounter rate is too high Its part of the reason why Im about to take a break from it now that Ive reached the Calm Lands --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. Mario Maker 2 Maker ID: X6G-JGS-BFG <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:925648647] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Its hard to notice sometimes because the damn encounter rate is too high Its part of the reason why Im about to take a break from it now that Ive reached the Calm Lands </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 08/05/19 10:31:08 AM #44:	pauIie posted... x is an incredible illusion of being a good game NinjaBreakfast posted... It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too i feel like people that praised x then shat on xii is why we got xiii More like people attacked X, XII was then the resource, a different group attacked XII and XIII was the response. Likewise XV's open world is a response to complaints for 13. Watch as 16 ends up being very linear. --- Feathered dinosaurs. I love feathered dinosaurs. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:925648802] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>pauIie posted...</cite> <quote>x is an incredible illusion of being a good game NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote>It actually always annoyed me how people criticised XIII for linearity when x was extremely linear too</quote> i feel like people that praised x then shat on xii is why we got xiii</quote> More like people attacked X, XII was then the resource, a different group attacked XII and XIII was the response. Likewise XV's open world is a response to complaints for 13. Watch as 16 ends up being very linear.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 08/05/19 10:35:40 AM #45:	I'll take FFX's illusions over FFX-2. --- WhOs gOnNA gET hIs sPeciAL boWlinG bALl? <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:925648961] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>I'll take FFX's illusions over FFX-2.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DaveTheUseless 08/05/19 10:47:30 AM #46:	pinky0926 posted... RPG games --- www.youtube.com/davetheuseless Creepypasta Channel. twitter.com/davetheuseless DaveTheUseless Loves You. <cite>DaveTheUseless posted [p:925649389] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite> <quote>RPG games</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 08/05/19 10:48:23 AM #47:	Maze_ posted... FFX felt like exploring a world No it didn't. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:925649429] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted...</cite> <quote> FFX felt like exploring a world</quote> No it didn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackOmnimon 08/05/19 10:50:28 AM #48:	I just recenty played it for the first time. I didn't even realized I had reached the endgame because I expected the world to open up halfway through like in previous FFs <cite>BlackOmnimon posted [p:925649509] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>I just recenty played it for the first time. I didn't even realized I had reached the endgame because I expected the world to open up halfway through like in previous FFs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 08/05/19 11:04:52 AM #49:	BlackOmnimon posted... I just recenty played it for the first time. I didn't even realized I had reached the endgame because I expected the world to open up halfway through like in previous FFs I mean, the stuff explained in the plot kinda makes it clear that ~~Zanarkand is the end of the pilgrimage.~~ --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. Mario Maker 2 Maker ID: X6G-JGS-BFG <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:925650079] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>BlackOmnimon posted... </cite> <quote>I just recenty played it for the first time. I didn't even realized I had reached the endgame because I expected the world to open up halfway through like in previous FFs</quote>I mean, the stuff explained in the plot kinda makes it clear that Zanarkand is the end of the pilgrimage. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackOmnimon 08/05/19 11:14:02 AM #50:	Alpha218 posted... BlackOmnimon posted... I just recenty played it for the first time. I didn't even realized I had reached the endgame because I expected the world to open up halfway through like in previous FFs I mean, the stuff explained in the plot kinda makes it clear that ~~Zanarkand is the end of the pilgrimage.~~ Usually objectives change in these games, like in FFIX the initial goal was to get t Lindblum, and so on. <cite>BlackOmnimon posted [p:925650431] in FFX has an... [t:77916107]...</cite> <quote>Alpha218 posted...</cite> <quote>BlackOmnimon posted... </cite> <quote>I just recenty played it for the first time. I didn't even realized I had reached the endgame because I expected the world to open up halfway through like in previous FFs</quote>I mean, the stuff explained in the plot kinda makes it clear that Zanarkand is the end of the pilgrimage. </quote> Usually objectives change in these games, like in FFIX the initial goal was to get t Lindblum, and so on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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