Board 8 > This poll of the day kind of actively pisses me off.

(+) Yeah! (+)

Things like this were fine to joke about in the days where people didn't latch onto every fucking conspiracy theory out there. But now we've got a large contingent of crazy fucks that will literally believe in all sorts of dumb shit. You just know theres going to be a bunch of dumb kids and dumb adults googling that the moon landing was fake and actually believing the stupid crap they read. Unfortunately shit like this has literally proven to be a slippery slope to stuff that is much worse than people believing the earth is flat.

Unfortunately we now live in a world where people are skeptical of the obvious and ready to believe stuff they should outright realize is crazy. Or probably more accurately this was always true just now the internet exists to exploit people in mass.

I just kind of wish GFAQs wouldn't pander to the insanity.
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lol
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You mean like the Challenger launch?
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I get that any publicity is good publicity for conspiracy theorists. Supposedly the flat earth movement grew after the scathing Netflix documentary in which flat earthers accidentally proved themselves wrong

At the same time I view today's poll more as

"Are you with it?"
1) Yes
2) Yes, but I don't trust the government
3) no, I'm ignorant
4) no, I'm an idiot
5) no, I'm a fucking idiot

If people are dumb asses and literally the only way to prevent them from going off the deep end is to prevent them from finding out the deep end exists, I'm not sure what we can do

Tomorrow should be a poll about evolution
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I think answer number 3 actually angers me the most.

It doesnt matter anyway.
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Also, obligatory link:

http://www.clavius.org/

The definitive response to the conspiracy theories.
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Actually, it's quite natural to doubt the moon landings when at the time we could barely leave orbit. The journey to the moon and back is substantially more challenging. It'd not be a certainty to pull off even today.
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There is no moon. It's just the reflection of Atlatis bouncing of the glass dome that protects Earth from the space wind because the turtle moves so fast.
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Vlado posted...

Actually

We know you are a reality denier already bro
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Imagine thinking Russia, who didn't like us back then, wouldn't have called us the fuck out if the landing was fake.
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Especially when they beat us to every space milestone before that.
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Umbreon posted...

Imagine thinking Russia, who didn't like us back then, wouldn't have called us the fuck out if the landing was fake.

Funnily enough, the literal Russian propagandist is the one in here peddling the drivel.

(Russia didn't start seriously peddling this until the 90s).
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1 and 2 are not even mutually exclusive.
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Actually, shut the fuck up Vlado
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Surskit posted...

1 and 2 are not even mutually exclusive.

This is usually the case, potd is often setup in a pick the best fit setup.

But still, this poll shows that probably 20% or of gfaqs fall in the gullible or crazy category.

metaIslug posted...

it's not unreasonable to believe the moon landing's live broadcast wasn't actually live. If shit hit the fan you would be broadcasting the death of 3 dudes and also broadcasting to the world how bad you are at the whole Cold War thing

Perhaps the same could be said of all live TV.

In fact it wouldn't surprise me if it was more live back then than it would be now, since now everything is on delays for censors and stuff. Not sure how long ago they started doing that.
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We literally broadcasted 9/11.

You think there weren't network execs somewhere salivating at the thought of something going wrong with the moon landing?

Its not like they stopped showing live shots after the first tower fell either. Once that happened they knew it was probably a matter of time for the second.

Not to mention the live shots of all the jumpers.

It wasn't until we accidentally showed an out of focus nipple that live television delay really became a thing for that matter.

I think that became the general rule after Janet Jacksons nipple at the Super Bowl
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LEAFEONd
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Leafeon13N posted...

It wasn't until we accidentally showed an out of focus nipple that live television delay really became a thing for that matter.

"accidentally"
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Umbreon posted...

Imagine thinking Russia, who didn't like us back then, wouldn't have called us the fuck out if the landing was fake.

How would they prove their claim?
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you know, i was pretty sure the moon landing footage was real, and I missed that poll about it, but now that you bring it up in this topic, I'm not so sure. Maybe it didn't actually happen?

Thanks for opening my eyes, red.
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So how come we've never gone back a single time?
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The same way that they try to prove things today, duh
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CoolCly posted...

you know, i was pretty sure the moon landing footage was real, and I missed that poll about it, but now that you bring it up in this topic, I'm not so sure. Maybe it didn't actually happen?

Thanks for opening my eyes, red.

I almost want to delete this topic.

Especially since one recent post might actually be serious.
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Who cares if people think we didn't go to the moon? Like I get generally not liking when people believe misinformation, etc, but someone thinking we didn't land on the moon doesn't really matter.

Hell, if the conspiracy is right, would that really matter? It was a propaganda stunt for a cold war that is long over. And the US government lies regularly.

Just doesn't seem worth getting too mad about

Vlado posted...

Umbreon posted...

Imagine thinking Russia, who didn't like us back then, wouldn't have called us the fuck out if the landing was fake.

How would they prove their claim?

The same way that despite the Soviets not advertising Sputnik before launch the US government knew it was going to happen. It's called espionage.
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Why do you feel so strongly about this?
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red13n posted...

I almost want to delete this topic.

Especially since one recent post might actually be serious.

People don't become moon landing skeptics because they're so dumb that just seeing the concept makes them believe in it. They believe it because when they look at a topic with skepticism, and they find one side that has a lot of "facts" and arguments, and the other side is drowned out by people like you who think it's dumb to not to instantly believe dogmatic facts that they learned in grade school, they go with the more intelligent option of the two.

The truth is if you actually took the effort into learning why the moon landing is perceived as fake, you not only would actually learn something and probably gain a reasonable understanding of why there's skepticism amoung the general populace, but you would also actually understand the goddamn moon landing. As it is, if we had a televised debate with you and a moon landing denier, I'm pretty sure the denier could dance circles around you.

tl;dr moon landing deniers are dumb, but they're that way largely because of people like you.

and I've found a way to feel superior to both
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Nrrr posted...

Who cares if people think we didn't go to the moon? Like I get generally not liking when people believe misinformation, etc, but someone thinking we didn't land on the moon doesn't really matter.

Hell, if the conspiracy is right, would that really matter? It was a propaganda stunt for a cold war that is long over. And the US government lies regularly.

Just doesn't seem worth getting too mad about

because its a demonstrated and then exploitable science of how easy it is to convince people of literally anything. Its a bookmark for future bad faith arguments that can cause true harm to society.

Also, most of us are too young to truly understand it but the moon landing was actually a hugely important moment in our history.
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SantaRPidgey posted...

tl;dr moon landing deniers are dumb, but they're that way largely because of people like you.

and I've found a way to feel superior to both

there are literal websites out there dedicated to why the moon landing actually happened. They are quite fascinating. Unfortunately they get drowned out by all the drivel conspiracy websites.
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red13n posted...

because its a demonstrated and then exploitable science of how easy it is to convince people of literally anything. Its a bookmark for future bad faith arguments that can cause true harm to society.

ok Xi Jinping
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SantaRPidgey posted...

As it is, if we had a televised debate with you and a moon landing denier, I'm pretty sure the denier could dance circles around you.

And yet, the moon landing would still have happened
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literal websites out there dedicated to it, definitely must be true then
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SantaRPidgey posted...

The truth is if you actually took the effort into learning why the moon landing is perceived as fake, you not only would actually learn something and probably gain a reasonable understanding of why there's skepticism amoung the general populace, but you would also actually understand the goddamn moon landing. As it is, if we had a televised debate with you and a moon landing denier, I'm pretty sure the denier could dance circles around you.

These statements are literally contradictory by the way. You are saying these people that deny the moon landing would be better informed by looking at why people think the moon landing is fake but somehow this would lead to them believing it was real. I've got news for you, they immediately stop at the first source(Which is fake and full of misinformation) and the fake sources pretty much -never- link or mention the real sources.

This stuff has stopped being satire and is now just people out to spread misinformation.

And the roadmap for this is used to spread other bits of much more harmful misinformation.
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I saw this topic title, and without thinking went to check the poll of the day, came back and started reading. Got way too far in before realizing this topic was not created today.

I've been on TV, btw.

Drakeryn posted...

literal websites out there dedicated to it, definitely must be true then

As long as they're quite fascinating I believe it.
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Lopen, why do attempt to troll me everywhere? I don't understand what you have to gain?

I've never gone out of my way except after getting really frustrated in mafia to go after you. I just don't understand the animosity.
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I mean, I've talked to you enough to know you are at least somewhat intelligent. So I assume you -arent- a moon landing denier. So what exactly is the goal here?
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red13n posted...

've got news for you, they immediately stop at the first source(Which is fake and full of misinformation) and the fake sources pretty much -never- link or mention the real sources.

so what makes you and me so smart?
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I'm not going out of my way to troll you. It was just a rather silly post that read like you haven't actually looked into it at all.

I mean Drakeryn started it after all!
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turbopuns3 posted...

I saw this topic title, and without thinking went to check the poll of the day, came back and started reading. Got way too far in before realizing this topic was not created today.

I've been on TV, btw.

Lopen posted...

I'm not going out of my way to troll you. It was just a rather silly post that read like you haven't actually looked into it at all.

I mean Drakeryn started it after all!

No I actually was bored at work the other day and people were spewing conspiracy links on twitter and there was a really good dedicated website linked. I'm trying to find it for you but it was on my phone and literally doesn't come up with a search of "moon". That was probably the furthest I've looked into beyond a few token "oh hey these theories are crazy heres why" many years back.

Hence why this was actually on my mind when the poll came up.

I also happened to be at a public place that had something to commemorate the moon landing and there were literal people that got up at points to spout out to the crowd that the whole thing was fake. It was really fucking depressing. So the poll coming a bit after that absolutely touched a nerve.
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oh and I've been clearly visible in the background of TV many times.
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I mean that wasn't even meant to be a dis, either. I certainly haven't looked into it myself! I'll admit that cause like, whatever, it doesn't make you stupid to not have looked into it. Just never was something I cared to investigate so I have no opinion on the validity of the conspiracy theorists vs the consensus. I'm sorta just over here in the camp of not really caring if it's true or not and just blindly accepting it happened cause that's general opinion and why not.

Though now reading this topic I probably will watch that Mythbusters episode cause Mythbusters is cool. Or I thought it was this topic. Maybe it wasn't this topic. Someone mentioned a Mythbusters episode somewhere on the board but ctrl F doesn't find it here so ???
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red13n posted...

No I actually was bored at work the other day and people were spewing conspiracy links on twitter and there was a really good dedicated website linked. I'm trying to find it for you but it was on my phone and literally doesn't come up with a search of "moon".

so you're saying that these skeptics should just go to this site that's relatively hard to find with a google search.
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Also the fact I cant find this website again because i am literally being drowned out in conspiracy rehashing is real fucking depressing.

SantaRPidgey posted...

so you're saying that these skeptics should just go to this site that's relatively hard to find with a google search.

I'm saying this shouldn't be that hard to google search but people(and the internet) have been exploited in horrible ways.

Basically, at a certain point, there are certain major events that we should be able to take as fact without needing to fend off conspiracy theories. Because at a certain point in human history physical evidence to these facts will no longer exist. We should be able to take historical facts at face value and not have people literally just denying facts.
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Lopen posted...

I'm sorta just over here in the camp of not really caring if it's true or not and just blindly accepting it happened cause that's general opinion and why not.

Yeah this is me too. I believe the moon landing happened because we learned it in school and such, but Santa is 100% right I'd lose the debate to a moon denier.
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