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ModLogic
07/20/19 1:06:06 PM
#102:


Bass_X0 posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Let's please not destroy a 15 year old's life over this kind of thing. Condemn the behavior, but scale it back. This is a child, with plenty of time ahead of them to figure out their morals. Let's not immediately and permanently turn them into a monster. That kind of treatment, regardless of whether it was brought upon themselves or not, ruins kids' entire adult lives and they will likely never function properly, especially a kid who is clearly already with a shitty outlook on life.


15 year old black children have had their lives destroyed by racists, even those the same age as themselves.

But its the white racists that need to be protected so that their lives can become something worthwhile?


She definitely do not deserve praise, but some people grow up and change. I feel like yes we should condemn her actions, but she should not have her life destroyed because of this. Ignorance can be cured with proper education.


Meanwhile, black kids are committing suicide over being targeted by racists. But oh no, dont anyone dare destroy the life of a white racist.


I'm gay and I forgave homophobes. Lgbt also commit suicides too. Educating homophobes and change their views a more powerful message than ruining their lives. The way you act is sending the message "stay racist/homophobic, we will never accept that you changed" and make the ignorants more likely to be radicalised by far right propaganda. You probably used "gay" as an insult at least once if your life too and someone could ruin your life with some screenshots just saying.


Nope. I have never once used gay as an insult.

And Im not gay or black, but I find forgiving a racist or homophobe to enable them to continue being a racist or homophobe. Forgiveness is not justice. Forgiveness contributes nothing to decreasing the amount of racism and homophobic attacks in the world. Racists and homophobes will only start to learn when they are on the receiving end of justice not forgiveness.

interesting.

so when do we start to acknowledge the sitting president during the nuking of japan was a confirmed racist that though blacks and asians were inferior beings? why is truman not put on blast? cos it happened so long ago to a minority america cares even less about?
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Ving_Rhames
07/20/19 1:07:25 PM
#103:


ModLogic posted...
so when do we start to acknowledge the sitting president during the nuking of japan was a confirmed racist that though blacks and asians were inferior beings? why is truman not put on blast? cos it happened so long ago to a minority america cares even less about?


Wait what lol
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epik_fail1
07/20/19 1:08:31 PM
#104:


Bass_X0 posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Let's please not destroy a 15 year old's life over this kind of thing. Condemn the behavior, but scale it back. This is a child, with plenty of time ahead of them to figure out their morals. Let's not immediately and permanently turn them into a monster. That kind of treatment, regardless of whether it was brought upon themselves or not, ruins kids' entire adult lives and they will likely never function properly, especially a kid who is clearly already with a shitty outlook on life.


15 year old black children have had their lives destroyed by racists, even those the same age as themselves.

But its the white racists that need to be protected so that their lives can become something worthwhile?


She definitely do not deserve praise, but some people grow up and change. I feel like yes we should condemn her actions, but she should not have her life destroyed because of this. Ignorance can be cured with proper education.


Meanwhile, black kids are committing suicide over being targeted by racists. But oh no, dont anyone dare destroy the life of a white racist.


I'm gay and I forgave homophobes. Lgbt also commit suicides too. Educating homophobes and change their views a more powerful message than ruining their lives. The way you act is sending the message "stay racist/homophobic, we will never accept that you changed" and make the ignorants more likely to be radicalised by far right propaganda. You probably used "gay" as an insult at least once if your life too and someone could ruin your life with some screenshots just saying.


Nope. I have never once used gay as an insult.

And Im not gay or black, but I find forgiving a racist or homophobe only enables them to continue being a racist or homophobe. Forgiveness is not justice. Forgiveness contributes nothing to decreasing the amount of racism and homophobic attacks in the world. Racists and homophobes will only start to learn when they are on the receiving end of justice not forgiveness.


Hate comes from ignorance and ignorance can be cured with education.

Take the bakers who refused to serve a cake to a gay wedding. Should they be praised for that action? No. But ruining their lives with a ridiculous fine did nothing to eradicate homophobia. Their is kids that are homophobic because of their parents, but after growing up, they realise that they were wrong. I refuse to demonise people because of their past. People need to stop those public lynching.
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ModLogic
07/20/19 1:08:52 PM
#105:


Ving_Rhames posted...
ModLogic posted...
so when do we start to acknowledge the sitting president during the nuking of japan was a confirmed racist that though blacks and asians were inferior beings? why is truman not put on blast? cos it happened so long ago to a minority america cares even less about?


Wait what lol

was it ever mentioned in your history classes that truman was a confirmed racist? history books seem to leave that little fun fact out.
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Bass_X0
07/20/19 1:12:24 PM
#106:


epik_fail1 posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Let's please not destroy a 15 year old's life over this kind of thing. Condemn the behavior, but scale it back. This is a child, with plenty of time ahead of them to figure out their morals. Let's not immediately and permanently turn them into a monster. That kind of treatment, regardless of whether it was brought upon themselves or not, ruins kids' entire adult lives and they will likely never function properly, especially a kid who is clearly already with a shitty outlook on life.


15 year old black children have had their lives destroyed by racists, even those the same age as themselves.

But its the white racists that need to be protected so that their lives can become something worthwhile?


She definitely do not deserve praise, but some people grow up and change. I feel like yes we should condemn her actions, but she should not have her life destroyed because of this. Ignorance can be cured with proper education.


Meanwhile, black kids are committing suicide over being targeted by racists. But oh no, dont anyone dare destroy the life of a white racist.


I'm gay and I forgave homophobes. Lgbt also commit suicides too. Educating homophobes and change their views a more powerful message than ruining their lives. The way you act is sending the message "stay racist/homophobic, we will never accept that you changed" and make the ignorants more likely to be radicalised by far right propaganda. You probably used "gay" as an insult at least once if your life too and someone could ruin your life with some screenshots just saying.


Nope. I have never once used gay as an insult.

And Im not gay or black, but I find forgiving a racist or homophobe only enables them to continue being a racist or homophobe. Forgiveness is not justice. Forgiveness contributes nothing to decreasing the amount of racism and homophobic attacks in the world. Racists and homophobes will only start to learn when they are on the receiving end of justice not forgiveness.


Hate comes from ignorance and ignorance can be cured with education.

Take the bakers who refused to serve a cake to a gay wedding. Should they be praised for that action? No. But ruining their lives with a ridiculous fine did nothing to eradicate homophobia. Their is kids that are homophobic because of their parents, but after growing up, they realise that they were wrong. I refuse to demonise people because of their past. People need to stop those public lynching.


Hate and justice are not the same thing. When a person commits a hateful act against another, they need to face justice for their actions. You know the saying that evil prevails when good men do nothing. Racist and homophobic acts are evil.
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epik_fail1
07/20/19 1:12:39 PM
#107:


ModLogic posted...
Ving_Rhames posted...
ModLogic posted...
so when do we start to acknowledge the sitting president during the nuking of japan was a confirmed racist that though blacks and asians were inferior beings? why is truman not put on blast? cos it happened so long ago to a minority america cares even less about?


Wait what lol

was it ever mentioned in your history classes that truman was a confirmed racist? history books seem to leave that little fun fact out.


Not everyone live in the same country as you. I suppose that it is probably a former U.S.A president according to the context, but I feel like comparing what a kid did to what a president did is a bit unfair?
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epik_fail1
07/20/19 1:14:55 PM
#108:


Do not become the monster that you fear.
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Bio1590
07/20/19 1:15:48 PM
#109:


I see ModLogic's trying another one of his stupid attempted "got ya"s.

But yeah sure let's entertain the guy that thinks "SJWs" are worse than Nazis and White Supremacists.
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ModLogic
07/20/19 1:19:15 PM
#110:


epik_fail1 posted...
Not everyone live in the same country as you. I suppose that it is probably a former U.S.A president according to the context, but I feel like comparing what a kid did to what a president did is a bit unfair?

yes. he was the president at the time the nukes were dropped. it is historically recorded that he hated blacks and japanese. once a racist always a racist, isnt that how it goes?
the nuking becomes even more questionable.
if america doesn't care about that. i dont see the country ever caring about a small case like this.
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Machete
07/20/19 1:22:27 PM
#111:


Ving_Rhames posted...
ModLogic posted...
so when do we start to acknowledge the sitting president during the nuking of japan was a confirmed racist that though blacks and asians were inferior beings? why is truman not put on blast? cos it happened so long ago to a minority america cares even less about?


Wait what lol


He seems to be saying that because it was considered okay then, we should consider it okay now, or some other warped shit like that.
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electricbugs2
07/20/19 1:29:41 PM
#113:


So many meltys in this topic, damn.

I dont remember CE being nearly as up in arms a few months back when there was that video of that blonde in a hotel room saying how we should just wipe out black people and saying the n word with the hard r over and over.

Oh, right. That was a hot blonde girl surrounded by boys so its fine, but if a Smash streamer says it, time to fire bomb the person.

Stupid.
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Unsugarized_Foo
07/20/19 1:30:23 PM
#114:


The power of the internet shan't be used for such petty things
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TheBlueMonk_
07/20/19 1:31:46 PM
#115:


lmao what is this

"THIS GIRL JUST BEAT A PRO! fuck her! let's harass her endlessly!!! KILL YOURSELF LITTLE GIRL!!!"

*same girl says the n-word*


"THIS GIRL SAID THE N WORD? hey shes just a kid what's the problem don't take it so seriously we all make mistakes"
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Bio1590
07/20/19 1:31:53 PM
#116:


Bio1590 posted...
But yeah sure let's entertain the guy that thinks "SJWs" are worse than Nazis and White Supremacists.

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Machete
07/20/19 1:32:19 PM
#117:


ModLogic posted...
Machete posted...
Ving_Rhames posted...
ModLogic posted...
so when do we start to acknowledge the sitting president during the nuking of japan was a confirmed racist that though blacks and asians were inferior beings? why is truman not put on blast? cos it happened so long ago to a minority america cares even less about?


Wait what lol


He seems to be saying that because it was considered okay then, we should consider it okay now, or some other warped shit like that.

or i could be saying that america has never acknowledged racism. even you lot are quick to try and shut down an uncomfortable fact while crying about the country still having issues with racism. gee i wonder why, you're not much different from the people defending this girl.


"America has never acknowledged racism so it's cool for America to keep not acknowledging racism"

What uncomfortable fact? Elaborate.
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ModLogic
07/20/19 1:34:28 PM
#119:


Machete posted...
ModLogic posted...
Machete posted...
Ving_Rhames posted...
ModLogic posted...
so when do we start to acknowledge the sitting president during the nuking of japan was a confirmed racist that though blacks and asians were inferior beings? why is truman not put on blast? cos it happened so long ago to a minority america cares even less about?


Wait what lol


He seems to be saying that because it was considered okay then, we should consider it okay now, or some other warped shit like that.

or i could be saying that america has never acknowledged racism. even you lot are quick to try and shut down an uncomfortable fact while crying about the country still having issues with racism. gee i wonder why, you're not much different from the people defending this girl.


"America has never acknowledged racism so it's cool for America to keep not acknowledging racism"

What uncomfortable fact? Elaborate.

"why wont america do anything about racism NOW! who cares about acknowledging racism in the past? that's history!"

50 years from now.

"why wont america do anything about racism NOW! who cares about acknowledging racism in the past? that's history!"
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Machete
07/20/19 1:35:58 PM
#121:


ModLogic posted...
Machete posted...
ModLogic posted...
Machete posted...
Ving_Rhames posted...
ModLogic posted...
so when do we start to acknowledge the sitting president during the nuking of japan was a confirmed racist that though blacks and asians were inferior beings? why is truman not put on blast? cos it happened so long ago to a minority america cares even less about?


Wait what lol


He seems to be saying that because it was considered okay then, we should consider it okay now, or some other warped shit like that.

or i could be saying that america has never acknowledged racism. even you lot are quick to try and shut down an uncomfortable fact while crying about the country still having issues with racism. gee i wonder why, you're not much different from the people defending this girl.


"America has never acknowledged racism so it's cool for America to keep not acknowledging racism"

What uncomfortable fact? Elaborate.

"why wont america do anything about racism NOW! who cares about acknowledging racism in the past? that's history!"

50 years from now.

"why wont america do anything about racism NOW! who cares about acknowledging racism in the past? that's history!"


And your solution is what?
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b_nolan
07/20/19 1:36:39 PM
#122:


shockthemonkey posted...
electricbugs2 posted...
So many meltys in this topic, damn.

I dont remember CE being nearly as up in arms a few months back when there was that video of that blonde in a hotel room saying how we should just wipe out black people and saying the n word with the hard r over and over.

Oh, right. That was a hot blonde girl surrounded by boys so its fine, but if a Smash streamer says it, time to fire bomb the person.

Stupid.

What kind of stupid fucking hot take is this?

The kind that comes from someone who makes up stories about their life on a video game forum.
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electricbugs2
07/20/19 1:38:01 PM
#124:


b_nolan posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
electricbugs2 posted...
So many meltys in this topic, damn.

I dont remember CE being nearly as up in arms a few months back when there was that video of that blonde in a hotel room saying how we should just wipe out black people and saying the n word with the hard r over and over.

Oh, right. That was a hot blonde girl surrounded by boys so its fine, but if a Smash streamer says it, time to fire bomb the person.

Stupid.

What kind of stupid fucking hot take is this?

The kind that comes from someone who makes up stories about their life on a video game forum.

Prove it big man.
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A_A_Battery
07/20/19 1:40:34 PM
#125:


shockthemonkey posted...
A_A_Battery posted...
No one is saying she should be hanged, drawn and quartered IRL. But a ban or losing a sponsorship is absolutely called for and totally reasonable.

Yeah I dont understand the people who are acting like theres a mob trying to tar and feather her. She did something bad and deserves appropriate punishment for it.


I was gonna use tar and feather but decided to go the extra step.

I dunno if a ban or sponsorship loss is "too draconian" on a 15 year old or a "punitive measure" that does not "fix" whatever problem she has in her head that makes her think one's melanin levels should determine whether or not they deserve to live or die. But such punishments can serve to be a deterrent because people should not feel like it's just another thing to say when they wish harm upon others over something like race.

Words are actions and when enough people say racist things, even if they're 15 years old, it contributes to the overall toxic pool that leads to actual violence. In if a person condones lynching, the only difference between them and someone actually lynching another person is opportunity or whether or not they are "daring" enough to commit murder. What one speaks is a representation of their internal state. And such racists are often backed by white supremist groups as soon as they are made public. Kind of like soph, who, while is a "child", has appeared on alt right platforms run by people who are not children yet pushing her narrative.
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RoboLaserGandhi
07/20/19 1:43:02 PM
#126:


bover_87 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Let's please not destroy a 15 year old's life over this kind of thing. Condemn the behavior, but scale it back. This is a child, with plenty of time ahead of them to figure out their morals. Let's not immediately and permanently turn them into a monster. That kind of treatment, regardless of whether it was brought upon themselves or not, ruins kids' entire adult lives and they will likely never function properly, especially a kid who is clearly already with a shitty outlook on life.

oh look, weapon_d00d shilling racists

how unexpected

Would you just listen to the damned message instead of getting caught up on who says it?

Christ.
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electricbugs2
07/20/19 1:44:11 PM
#127:


RoboLaserGandhi posted...
bover_87 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Let's please not destroy a 15 year old's life over this kind of thing. Condemn the behavior, but scale it back. This is a child, with plenty of time ahead of them to figure out their morals. Let's not immediately and permanently turn them into a monster. That kind of treatment, regardless of whether it was brought upon themselves or not, ruins kids' entire adult lives and they will likely never function properly, especially a kid who is clearly already with a shitty outlook on life.

oh look, weapon_d00d shilling racists

how unexpected

Would you just listen to the damned message instead of getting caught up on who says it?

Christ.

Thats too hard for them, CE holds grudges like an ex girlfriend.
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Bio1590
07/20/19 1:47:12 PM
#128:


electricbugs2 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
bover_87 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Let's please not destroy a 15 year old's life over this kind of thing. Condemn the behavior, but scale it back. This is a child, with plenty of time ahead of them to figure out their morals. Let's not immediately and permanently turn them into a monster. That kind of treatment, regardless of whether it was brought upon themselves or not, ruins kids' entire adult lives and they will likely never function properly, especially a kid who is clearly already with a shitty outlook on life.

oh look, weapon_d00d shilling racists

how unexpected

Would you just listen to the damned message instead of getting caught up on who says it?

Christ.

Thats too hard for them, CE holds grudges like an ex girlfriend.

It's not a "grudge" if he's still the exact same poster he was when he went by that name.
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Balrog0
07/20/19 1:48:29 PM
#129:


electricbugs2 posted...
So many meltys in this topic, damn.

I dont remember CE being nearly as up in arms a few months back when there was that video of that blonde in a hotel room saying how we should just wipe out black people and saying the n word with the hard r over and over.

Oh, right. That was a hot blonde girl surrounded by boys so its fine, but if a Smash streamer says it, time to fire bomb the person.

Stupid.


Was anyone defending her for doing that? I don't remember that, so I'm guessing there wasn't any controversy over it, meaning no one excused it to begin with
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ModLogic
07/20/19 1:49:02 PM
#130:


electricbugs2 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
bover_87 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Let's please not destroy a 15 year old's life over this kind of thing. Condemn the behavior, but scale it back. This is a child, with plenty of time ahead of them to figure out their morals. Let's not immediately and permanently turn them into a monster. That kind of treatment, regardless of whether it was brought upon themselves or not, ruins kids' entire adult lives and they will likely never function properly, especially a kid who is clearly already with a shitty outlook on life.

oh look, weapon_d00d shilling racists

how unexpected

Would you just listen to the damned message instead of getting caught up on who says it?

Christ.

Thats too hard for them, CE holds grudges like an ex girlfriend.

is it surprising the toxicity comes from the ones who brand others with their "tags"?
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RoboLaserGandhi
07/20/19 1:49:50 PM
#131:


Bio1590 posted...
electricbugs2 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
bover_87 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Let's please not destroy a 15 year old's life over this kind of thing. Condemn the behavior, but scale it back. This is a child, with plenty of time ahead of them to figure out their morals. Let's not immediately and permanently turn them into a monster. That kind of treatment, regardless of whether it was brought upon themselves or not, ruins kids' entire adult lives and they will likely never function properly, especially a kid who is clearly already with a shitty outlook on life.

oh look, weapon_d00d shilling racists

how unexpected

Would you just listen to the damned message instead of getting caught up on who says it?

Christ.

Thats too hard for them, CE holds grudges like an ex girlfriend.

It's not a "grudge" if he's still the exact same poster he was when he went by that name.

I was called a racist far less often under this name.
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Bio1590
07/20/19 1:51:12 PM
#132:


A_A_Battery posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
A_A_Battery posted...
No one is saying she should be hanged, drawn and quartered IRL. But a ban or losing a sponsorship is absolutely called for and totally reasonable.

Yeah I dont understand the people who are acting like theres a mob trying to tar and feather her. She did something bad and deserves appropriate punishment for it.


I was gonna use tar and feather but decided to go the extra step.

I dunno if a ban or sponsorship loss is "too draconian" on a 15 year old or a "punitive measure" that does not "fix" whatever problem she has in her head that makes her think one's melanin levels should determine whether or not they deserve to live or die. But such punishments can serve to be a deterrent because people should not feel like it's just another thing to say when they wish harm upon others over something like race.

Words are actions and when enough people say racist things, even if they're 15 years old, it contributes to the overall toxic pool that leads to actual violence. In if a person condones lynching, the only difference between them and someone actually lynching another person is opportunity or whether or not they are "daring" enough to commit murder. What one speaks is a representation of their internal state. And such racists are often backed by white supremist groups as soon as they are made public. Kind of like soph, who, while is a "child", has appeared on alt right platforms run by people who are not children yet pushing her narrative.

Honestly why are 15-year olds even being "sponsored" in the first place
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ModLogic
07/20/19 1:51:50 PM
#133:


RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Bio1590 posted...
electricbugs2 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
bover_87 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Let's please not destroy a 15 year old's life over this kind of thing. Condemn the behavior, but scale it back. This is a child, with plenty of time ahead of them to figure out their morals. Let's not immediately and permanently turn them into a monster. That kind of treatment, regardless of whether it was brought upon themselves or not, ruins kids' entire adult lives and they will likely never function properly, especially a kid who is clearly already with a shitty outlook on life.

oh look, weapon_d00d shilling racists

how unexpected

Would you just listen to the damned message instead of getting caught up on who says it?

Christ.

Thats too hard for them, CE holds grudges like an ex girlfriend.

It's not a "grudge" if he's still the exact same poster he was when he went by that name.

I was called a racist far less often under this name.

being called "racist" on CE basically has no meaning. it's only a sign that the other party is so upset they have to start calling you names.
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ex_factor
07/20/19 1:53:06 PM
#134:


MacDaMurderer posted...
I hate when people say that whole they arent racist! They are young and just saying things for shock!

Like when I was that age I said the f word all the time and Im not gonna sit here and lie like those people. I was homophobic at that age but by my senior year of high school I knew multiple gay people and I stopped being homophobic and saying the f word. Now at 30 when I hear people say it I correct them and disassociate from them completely. I cringe when I hear it in old rap music I listen to. I dont even say the lyric.

When people say shit like that I guarantee you thats how they feel.


You really shouldnt be guaranteeing that, since youre 100% incorrect.
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electricbugs2
07/20/19 1:56:27 PM
#135:


Balrog0 posted...
electricbugs2 posted...
So many meltys in this topic, damn.

I dont remember CE being nearly as up in arms a few months back when there was that video of that blonde in a hotel room saying how we should just wipe out black people and saying the n word with the hard r over and over.

Oh, right. That was a hot blonde girl surrounded by boys so its fine, but if a Smash streamer says it, time to fire bomb the person.

Stupid.


Was anyone defending her for doing that? I don't remember that, so I'm guessing there wasn't any controversy over it, meaning no one excused it to begin with

Nah there definitely was lol. Its CE and a hot blonde, couldve killed a man on camera and theyd be like lets wait for all theSHESHAWT facts.

Pretending like this is some dumb shit I said is laughable and stm is goofin.
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Bio1590
07/20/19 1:58:50 PM
#136:


ModLogic posted...
electricbugs2 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
bover_87 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Let's please not destroy a 15 year old's life over this kind of thing. Condemn the behavior, but scale it back. This is a child, with plenty of time ahead of them to figure out their morals. Let's not immediately and permanently turn them into a monster. That kind of treatment, regardless of whether it was brought upon themselves or not, ruins kids' entire adult lives and they will likely never function properly, especially a kid who is clearly already with a shitty outlook on life.

oh look, weapon_d00d shilling racists

how unexpected

Would you just listen to the damned message instead of getting caught up on who says it?

Christ.

Thats too hard for them, CE holds grudges like an ex girlfriend.

is it surprising the toxicity comes from the ones who brand others with their "tags"?

Yeah totally weird how some of us tag users based on what they do all the time.

Yenno like how you constantly say you believe "SJWs" are worse than Nazis and White Supremacists and downplay the actions of self-admitted Nazis, White Supremacists, and Racists.
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Balrog0
07/20/19 1:59:24 PM
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I guess my point is that the level of leniency in general should be a factor of the severity of the consequences of the actions performed. That's true of adults, and it's true of kids, too. Kids just also get more leniency in general because there's a greater chance that they can turn things around in their life than an adult. A child can legitimately not understand the full scope of their actions, but when it starts to approach "murdering someone" that's where it's tougher to argue that they don't understand the consequences of their actions. Some actions have unintended consequences a kid might not have foreseen, but when you bring a gun to a robbery it's tough to say that "someone might get shot" is an unforeseen consequence.

So presumably an adult committing petty theft should be more likely to get a light sentence or let off with community service / "time served" than an adult committing armed robbery

@s0nicfan

Youre still focusing on different punishments for different transgressions, you're basically just stating that kids should get more leniency for things with unclear consequences without explaining why that is. But even if that's true, how are using the n word and talking about lynching not things with obvious social consequences? What I think you really mean is that there is a certain level of bad that 15 year olds should understand, and racist talk doesn't reach that level. Can you elaborate how you justify that in a way that focuses on how 15 year olds are different from adults (as opposed to how robbery is worse than racism)

That's actually what im getting at, though. I think that's what these arguments boil down to. People aren't used to casual racism having any consequences at all, so when it does it seems unfair.
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RoboLaserGandhi
07/20/19 2:01:12 PM
#138:


Bio1590 posted...
ModLogic posted...
electricbugs2 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
bover_87 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Let's please not destroy a 15 year old's life over this kind of thing. Condemn the behavior, but scale it back. This is a child, with plenty of time ahead of them to figure out their morals. Let's not immediately and permanently turn them into a monster. That kind of treatment, regardless of whether it was brought upon themselves or not, ruins kids' entire adult lives and they will likely never function properly, especially a kid who is clearly already with a shitty outlook on life.

oh look, weapon_d00d shilling racists

how unexpected

Would you just listen to the damned message instead of getting caught up on who says it?

Christ.

Thats too hard for them, CE holds grudges like an ex girlfriend.

is it surprising the toxicity comes from the ones who brand others with their "tags"?

Yeah totally weird how some of us tag users based on what they do all the time.

Yenno like how you constantly say you believe "SJWs" are worse than Nazis and White Supremacists and downplay the actions of self-admitted Nazis, White Supremacists, and Racists.

Lemme guess, none of that is actually true and it's a massive exaggeration because you have no control over your own emotions and have a hard time seeing perspectives other than your own.
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apocalyptic_4
07/20/19 2:10:32 PM
#139:


"I said racist things all the time when I was that age it's ok! They'll grow out of it! No need for accountability"

This topic.
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Thrillwell
07/20/19 2:13:26 PM
#140:


Why are mods blatantly allowed to promote any agenda?
Why are they allowed to call users names?

These are the questions that need answers. Not which teen white girl of the day did something currently frowned upon.
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Bio1590
07/20/19 2:15:35 PM
#141:


RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Bio1590 posted...
ModLogic posted...
electricbugs2 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
bover_87 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Let's please not destroy a 15 year old's life over this kind of thing. Condemn the behavior, but scale it back. This is a child, with plenty of time ahead of them to figure out their morals. Let's not immediately and permanently turn them into a monster. That kind of treatment, regardless of whether it was brought upon themselves or not, ruins kids' entire adult lives and they will likely never function properly, especially a kid who is clearly already with a shitty outlook on life.

oh look, weapon_d00d shilling racists

how unexpected

Would you just listen to the damned message instead of getting caught up on who says it?

Christ.

Thats too hard for them, CE holds grudges like an ex girlfriend.

is it surprising the toxicity comes from the ones who brand others with their "tags"?

Yeah totally weird how some of us tag users based on what they do all the time.

Yenno like how you constantly say you believe "SJWs" are worse than Nazis and White Supremacists and downplay the actions of self-admitted Nazis, White Supremacists, and Racists.

Lemme guess, none of that is actually true and it's a massive exaggeration because you have no control over your own emotions and have a hard time seeing perspectives other than your own.

Nope, it's completely true and it's something ModLogic/teh_dude is well-known for.
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AwesomeToTheMAX
07/20/19 4:09:15 PM
#143:


Thrillwell posted...
Why are mods blatantly allowed to promote any agenda?
Why are they allowed to call users names?

These are the questions that need answers. Not which teen white girl of the day did something currently frowned upon.


h5qPSTL
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bover_87
07/20/19 4:10:06 PM
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Bio1590
07/20/19 4:24:29 PM
#146:


Conflict posted...
Huh so it is confirmed that RoboLaserGandhi is actually in fact, weapon_d00d

I didn't realize he hadn't admitted it lol
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FL81
07/20/19 4:49:35 PM
#147:


(didn't read rest of topic before posting this)

Not defending her behavior, but for what it's worth this is the same girl who got bullied out of the Smash community after defeating a top player (who was later outed as a pedo) with a low tier character pick. For all we know, she could be doing this as an easy way to get out of the Smash scene.
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epik_fail1
07/20/19 4:58:18 PM
#148:


apocalyptic_4 posted...
"I said racist things all the time when I was that age it's ok! They'll grow out of it! No need for accountability"

This topic.


"I twist what people said to make me looks like a hero"

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Ving_Rhames
07/20/19 5:29:46 PM
#149:


AwesomeToTheMAX posted...
Thrillwell posted...
Why are mods blatantly allowed to promote any agenda?
Why are they allowed to call users names?

These are the questions that need answers. Not which teen white girl of the day did something currently frowned upon.


h5qPSTL


LOOOOL what the fuck
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guydude21
07/20/19 5:45:47 PM
#150:


REGARDLESS of her age

What she did was NOT

that bad
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Ving_Rhames
07/20/19 5:50:42 PM
#152:


FL81 posted...
(didn't read rest of topic before posting this)

Not defending her behavior, but for what it's worth this is the same girl who got bullied out of the Smash community after defeating a top player (who was later outed as a pedo) with a low tier character pick. For all we know, she could be doing this as an easy way to get out of the Smash scene.


She said this stuff in 2018. She probably never anticipated being well known enough for anyone to care later on down the line.
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