Current Events > Netflix cuts THAT scene from 13 reasons why season 1

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https://m.ign.com/articles/2019/07/16/netflix-has-edited-13-reasons-whys-season-one-suicide-scene

This is bullshit tbh
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Should have cut the broomstick scene
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That show is stupid and teenagers who find it to be encouraging are even more idiotic

Yeah it's "bullshit" that they're following the advice of people who actually know what they're talking about and have only been saying that scene was a terrible idea since it first aired.
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Ive actually been planning on watching the show, but that is disappointing. Not that violence should be glorified, but it sounds like it would have been a hard-hitting scene that I could have appreciated as someone who has lost family members to suicide.

I think many times these doctors/experts are so disconnected from the actual experience of the things they treat, that they really dont know what the fuck theyre talking about.
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The Big Chill was like that. It revolved a suicide but they did not show the actual person doing it.
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pc culture is the worst.
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It's unfortunately they didn't cancel the show.

Putting depressed teens at greater risk for the entertainment of 20 somethings that used to be depressed teens is evil.
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Not a bad decision at all. The scene was outrageously graphic, and really didnt need to be there at all.
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Shablagoo posted...

Ive actually been planning on watching the show, but that is disappointing. Not that violence should be glorified, but it sounds like it would have been a hard-hitting scene that I could have appreciated as someone who has lost family members to suicide.

I think many times these doctors/experts are so disconnected from the actual experience of the things they treat, that they really dont know what the fuck theyre talking about.

I've had a therapist tell me depression is my fault.
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Shablagoo posted...

I think many times these doctors/experts are so disconnected from the actual experience of the things they treat, that they really dont know what the fuck theyre talking about.

In this case its also people who are actually mentally ill saying that this triggered suicidal ideation for them.
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What was in the scene that was so horrific?
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Tupacrulez posted...

What was in the scene that was so horrific?

I'm not sure how much they cut. But maybe the blood or her mom the lady from Grey's Anatomy walking in to her lifeless body. She was crying and told her husband to call 911.
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Tupacrulez posted...

What was in the scene that was so horrific?

I think she slit her wrists very graphically.
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Lebronwon posted...

Tupacrulez posted...

What was in the scene that was so horrific?

I'm not sure how much they cut. But maybe the blood or her mom the lady from Grey's Anatomy walking in to her lifeless body. She was crying and told her husband to call 911.

They're removing the entire 3-minute scene. It now ends with her looking in the mirror and immediately jumps to her parent's reaction.
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Tupacrulez posted...

What was in the scene that was so horrific?

It's like a 3-minute scene of her graphically slitting her wrist and bleeding to death in the bathtub.
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Capitalizing on suicide is gross and extremely tone deaf, but hey its hollywoood

This is extra stupid because it's not like the scene glorifies suicide. It's the type of scene that makes you feel sick to watch.
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chairforceone posted...

Capitalizing on suicide is gross and extremely tone deaf, but hey its hollywoood

The people they consulted for the show literally told them they shouldn't even be making it but of course the $$$ won out.
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Bio1590 posted...

Yeah it's "bullshit" that they're following the advice of people who actually know what they're talking about and have only been saying that scene was a terrible idea since it first aired.

If that's your reasoning then why ever show or talk about any kind of self harm at all?
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Bio1590 posted...

Lebronwon posted...

Tupacrulez posted...

What was in the scene that was so horrific?

I'm not sure how much they cut. But maybe the blood or her mom the lady from Grey's Anatomy walking in to her lifeless body. She was crying and told her husband to call 911.

They're removing the entire 3-minute scene. It now ends with her looking in the mirror and immediately jumps to her parent's reaction.

Oh ok. So it is the wrist slit they cut then.

Damn_Underscore posted...

This is extra stupid because it's not like the scene glorifies suicide. It's the type of scene that makes you feel sick to watch.

Agreed. It is rare to see an actually suicide of someone so young in the media. Maybe I am desensitized to the whole thing because I just saw a dark comedy short film about a guy who writes his suicide note professing his love to a woman. He then hangs himself and as he is about to die his dog comes in and eats his suicide note and he then struggles to break free to save the suicide note but he can't and dies. During all this the woman who he wrote the note for called saying the book he wrote was a success and that she would go on a date with him.
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should have cut the whole show off netflix tbh
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Makeveli_lives posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Yeah it's "bullshit" that they're following the advice of people who actually know what they're talking about and have only been saying that scene was a terrible idea since it first aired.

If that's your reasoning then why ever show or talk about any kind of self harm at all?

Talking about self harm and suicide is NOT even close to what this show is. Its distilled all the pain and drama into passive entertainment for yuppie fuckwits.

isn't this a bit too late? Everyone's already seen and is aware of that scene lol.

Leanaunfurled posted...

isn't this a bit too late? Everyone's already seen and is aware of that scene lol.

One person in this topic said he would've watched it but can't now. I'm the same in that I've had stuff on my list forever that I plan to get to but there's too much going on for me to make legit progress
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Leanaunfurled posted...

isn't this a bit too late? Everyone's already seen and is aware of that scene lol.

It is late, but new seasons always bring in new viewers that start from the beginning of the show so they'll at least catch those.
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Makeveli_lives posted...

Leanaunfurled posted...

isn't this a bit too late? Everyone's already seen and is aware of that scene lol.

One person in this topic said he would've watched it but can't now. I'm the same in that I've had stuff on my list forever that I plan to get to but there's too much going on for me to make legit progress

This actually happen to me with Bird Box. I kept putting it off and off. And there was a controversy about them using video of a real tragedy in one of the scenes. By the time I finally got around to watching it the controversial scene was cut.
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Having never seen the show, I wouldn't imagine a graphic scene like that being the issue, moreover than the glorification of the results of the suicide, which is, you know, the whole show.
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COVxy posted...

Having never seen the show, I wouldn't imagine a graphic scene like that being the issue, moreover than the glorification of the results of the suicide, which is, you know, the whole show.

Yeah that's why they were told they honestly shouldn't even be making the show in the first place.
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...yet still less chopped up than Still Game.

COVxy posted...

I wouldn't imagine a graphic scene like that being the issue, moreover than the glorification of the results of the suicide, which is, you know, the whole show.

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The fact that the show romanticized suicide as a vehicle for revenge fantasy is absolutely disgusting and something children could latch on to

The biggest problem here is that streaming providers such as Netflix and Amazon can cut shows after they've aired, meaning the only way to get the original version of such a show is to pirate it.

This is why the "streaming future" is such a bad idea.

Bio1590 posted...

Tupacrulez posted...

What was in the scene that was so horrific?

It's like a 3-minute scene of her graphically slitting her wrist and bleeding to death in the bathtub.

Basically suicide porn
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Isnt that the show where the girl got depressed because she was voted to have the best ass in her class or something?
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Now the only thing I want to do is find the scene. Great job
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I just remembered this isn't the first time the show backed out of something. S2 was supposed to end with a school shooting. But they changed it to friendship saving the day.
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Trelve posted...

The biggest problem here is that streaming providers such as Netflix and Amazon can cut shows after they've aired, meaning the only way to get the original version of such a show is to pirate it.

This is why the "streaming future" is such a bad idea.

Streisand Effect will save us all.

I feel like if there is a problem, this scene wasn't it.

It was so graphic and unnerving. It didn't make suicide (the attempt at least) look desirable, it made it look hard, brutal and painful. Then the immediate reactions of the parents, the mother especially was very disturbring and heart-wrenching to watch. I have a difficult time believing anyone, even already suicidal people can watch that and feel enthused to live it out.

They did not make it look easy or simple to accomplish, nor was it beautiful or made to seem noble and they framed how it traumatized her parents (who she loved) immediately after. If someone is pumping their fist at that scene as opposed to pausing for thought, they're already way past the danger zone.

The rest of the show, I can absolutely see the argument, at times it does feel romanticized, that the main character is getting her "deserved" revenge. But not that scene. I kinda feel like skipping over it so quickly might even romanticize things more because they don't get a chance to hammer in how absolutely horrifying the act is.

All that said, I'm not a psychological expert so whatever, willing to admit I could be completely wrong and people vary wildly so someone is bound to react the way some psychologists are predicting regardless. Sucks there's probably no legal way to watch it as intended now, though.

Edit: Added some spoiler tags just incase?
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The suicide scene at the beginning of Happy is intact, though, right?

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/30/718529255/teen-suicide-spiked-after-debut-of-netflixs-13-reasons-why-report-says

But sure, nixing that scene is bullshit.

sadbois posted...

That show is stupid and teenagers who find it to be encouraging are even more idiotic

This. Who the fuck thought this show and its narrative were a good idea? Its so self absorbed and condescending.
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censorship is bad
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Shablagoo posted...

Ive actually been planning on watching the show, but that is disappointing. Not that violence should be glorified, but it sounds like it would have been a hard-hitting scene that I could have appreciated as someone who has lost family members to suicide.

I think many times these doctors/experts are so disconnected from the actual experience of the things they treat, that they really dont know what the fuck theyre talking about.

I've had a therapist tell me depression is my fault.

Id love to see a script of the actual conversation. Im not saying it's impossible but it seems way more likely that a depressed person would just perceive something said wrong.
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EvalAngell posted...

censorship is bad

Netflix is 'censoring' its own stuff. This is a George Lucas situation, at worst.

I'd rather they get Pompidou back.