Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 24: Denouement

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In the morning, all the surviving members emerged from their rooms. They looked at each other... eager to resolve the mystery once and for all.

Playerlist (4 alive)
1. UltimaterializerX
2. SBell (Obellisk)
3. Lopen
4. turbopuns3

Deadlist (17 dead)
LD1 - Luis_Sera aka The One Ring (Lord of the Rings), MAFIA Redirector
KN1 - Scarechan (replaced eaedwards) aka J.D. Salinger (as portrayed on BoJack Horseman), TOWN Villager
LD2 - Red13n aka Nyarlathotep (H.P. Lovecraft), MAFIA Backup
MKN2 - TheSultanOfSlam aka Atticus Finch (To Kill A Mockingbird), TOWN Mayor
KN2 - Dowolf aka Piggy (Lord of the Flies), TOWN Kingmaker
KN2 - Sir Chris aka g (the English alphabet), TOWN Villager
LD3 - MZero aka Petra Arkanian (Enders Game), TOWN Villager
LD4 - Pezloco aka Big Brother (1984), MAFIA Book-Reader
KN4 - Lolo aka Lily Potter (Harry Potter), TOWN Bodyguard
KN4 - Corrik aka Because I could not stop for Death (Emily Dickinson), TOWN Chronomancer
LD5 - Death aka King Claudius (Hamlet), MAFIA Poisoner
KN5 - Tom aka Sampson (Romeo and Juliet), TOWN Thumb-Biter
LD6 - Lea aka Doom the Gyarados (Doctor Doom travels through Kanto with a Magikarp as his starter), TOWN Villager
KN6 - Ben aka Sam-I-Am (Green Eggs and Ham), TOWN Cop
LD7 - Camarija aka Voldemort (Harry Potter), TOWN Villager
KN7 - 5tarscream aka Elizabeth Bennet (Pride and Prejudice), TOWN Book-Reader
LD8 - Sheep (replaced Hbthebattle) aka Harry Potter (Harry Potte), TOWN Villager

Day ends Monday at 9 p.m. EDT or if majority is reached. With 4 alive, it takes 3 votes to reach majority.

Go!

@UltimaterializerX
@Obellisk
@Lopen
@turbopuns3
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Son of a bitch, I'm still alive...
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Well puns, that was wrong. And somehow Lopen knew it too.

I'm all fucked up from this game.

Your unvote leads me to concrete you as town. Which means it's Ulti or Lopen. And frankly I still think Ulti is town.
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turbopuns3 posted...

I see MyLo in my future. Whoopee

Post 1 of the game. What have I done to deserve this fml

No kill surprises me. I figured ulti would be gone so that makes me instinctively doubt him but not substantially at this point. Luckily it is a weekend that isn't vacation or holiday so I should be able to find some time to dedicate to reading back

UltimaterializerX posted...

Stu, can you explain that early hammer?

Wanted to vote. Told puns I'd follow even though I thought Lopen was a better choice. He gave his story of not living with himself if sheep wins as scum. I took his vote as free reign.

Also, what's 5 minutes? These days are painful.
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I think trying to determine who would be most likely to no kill in this situation will give us a hint as to who the scum are.

I feel if it was puns he would just kill SBell and autolynch me through Ulti

I feel if it was me I'd kill Ulti because he has seemed autolynch on me. Would take my chances convincing Puns to lynch SBell or vice versa.

Thusly I think it's most likely to be SBell or Ulti. What say you people.
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My unvote wasn't a reaction to SBell, I just was making peace in my post then after I put my phone in my pocket I thought "hm I guess it would be prudent to just unvote in case and see what happens"

I didn't even refresh between my vote and my unvote

Honestly if it was SBell he probably kills Puns and autolynches me through Ulti too

I think Ulti makes the most sense that in mind. Most town cleared guy in general so convincing everyone to lynch him seems most difficult.

But WIFOM right???
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turbopuns3 posted...

My unvote wasn't a reaction to SBell, I just was making peace in my post then after I put my phone in my pocket I thought "hm I guess it would be prudent to just unvote in case and see what happens"

I didn't even refresh between my vote and my unvote

Still has the same affect for me. Scum has no reason to unvote at all there knowing they have a justifiable town lynch ready and primed.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

The other question is how was Lopen SO sure one scum is left?

Because I'm not scum and double flavor godfather is stupid

As I said 10 times yesterday
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UltimaterializerX posted...

In fact why DID you lynch Sheep? You called his role a flavor trap and then lynched him. If youre town, you really need to help me understand this before explaining how Puns or Stu could possibly be scum.

The alternative is me being lynched and then puns being lynched through martyrdom-- between Sheep afking and puns posts arguing for Sheep and WHAT WOULD TOM TAUNT I lost sufficient conviction to gamble on that

And again I never called him a flavor trap for sure. I said the game setup is more balanced if he's a flavor trap than a flavor hint if 5 scum, and 5 scum seemed likely.

Also I was right on red and on a lot of "this is clearly scum pushing a lynch on town calls (like Lea, Cam, dowolf, mzero). Arguably those two things make me more right than any of you so far. Depends how many demerits trying to lynch Ben gives, I suppose.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

So who of Puns or Stu is scum then?

Which do you think?
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I guess technically Cam I did not call as obvtown because Cam + Sheep team made some sense (though I did go harder for Sheep). Though I will say I had been against lynching Lea + Cam as a lynch path because it seemed too obvious
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Id be stunned if Stu was non-Survivor scum.

Why exactly?

UltimaterializerX posted...

I feel like any pair among me/Puns/Stu just auto-kills you without thinking too hard and you would know this.

I mean I posted this at the end of the day.

turbopuns3 posted...

My full thoughts is lynch Sheep then if he's town, lynch SBell honestly

If he's scum and game doesn't end, it's more likely Lopen I guess

turbopuns3 posted...

Because of Ulti/Lopen/SBell he's got the least town credit

Puns said yesterday he suspected SBell more than me actually. If I'm scum I definitely kill you and try to roll with that. You're dead weight as far as any lynch that isn't on me goes, because you've been mindlessly charging me the whole game even when it doesn't make sense.

At first I thought that was just you playing poorly, but at this point in the game it seems somewhat likely you were just parking your suspicions on someone who is difficult to lynch to give the illusion you're being active. If that's the case, well played. If not, then try and figure out the day. This is your last chance.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

So I will ask you, again, who do you think is more likely scum among Puns or Stu?

I've already answered this in a post you quoted.
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Frankly, fuck no-kill meta I'm gonna try to figure this one out the old fashioned way.

Of the four of us, only SBell has ever been reasonably close to being lynched. So day 3 is worth reading since it was MZero/SBell for a while then shifted to MZero/Lolo.

I'm probably just gonna skim the first few days prior to Ben's reveal, then the first couple days after death's lynch

That's probably where the best content is

UltimaterializerX posted...

Christ I wish I was as good as you so I could just pull a House MD and ignore symptoms.

Thank you but also this feels disingenuous

It's on the site which shall not be named

UltimaterializerX posted...

Puns? ....man. That is such a hard pill to swallow.

How did you get that. It's not more likely puns.

In terms of no kill making sense as a play.

It's you > SBell >> puns > me.

SBell probably has at least some hesitation in putting himself with me and you, even though it is favorable. Puns saying I'm less likely scum than SBell probably gives SBell some pause. Also I managed to at least sorta get you off my leg yesterday. He might consider it risky to make a kill and put it at 4. I think he does kill puns though.

Puns gladly accepts a win by killing SBell and ending me using you as the tool of his injustice.

There's no way I don't kill you. Me/puns/SBell I can try and swing that.

Of course if you want to say this is some 4th dimensional chess fakeout you can but I mean, I have no idea why you think I'd make it so complicated though. You and SBell both have negative affinity to me this game and I mean, I did try and lynch puns yesterday. Puns saying SBell should be lynched if Sheep flips town seems winnable.

I mean this could be some super advanced WIFOM play but I'm not convinced a scum expects me to zone in on no kill being so significant here.

It really should be between you and SBell right now, in my estimation. Cause I believe in no kill meta. But it's not clear cut enough for me yet to vote just on that.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

This reads like you suspect Puns, would kill me, and try to convince Stu to vote Puns in a final 3.

I think convincing puns to kill Sbell is significantly easier if I'm scum.
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Because I believe in no kill meta yes. Puns has a super easy path to winning through mislynching me.

Hell he could probably shoot me and get one of you two to lynch each other if he was feeling cocky
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It's tough to win as town if SBell is town here

I get being overwhelmed by days 1-3 or whatever

But final 5, final 4, just limiting your activity to cheesy obligatory remarks like "oh man I'm alive", "yo who should I vote" really cripples town, if you are town.

turbopuns3 posted...

It's tough to win as town if SBell is town here

I get being overwhelmed by days 1-3 or whatever

But final 5, final 4, just limiting your activity to cheesy obligatory remarks like "oh man I'm alive", "yo who should I vote" really cripples town, if you are town.

Thats just it puns. It might as well be final 3. Forget I'm here. It's you, Ulti, puns. Rest assured you have worthless confirmed town here. Scums attempt to muddy the waters by no killing was foolish. They succeeded in nothing.

I will attempt to add something of value but let's not lie to ourselves, ive been worthless this game even when I have tried.

(for the record I'm taking the girls to sesame place tomorrow so I'll be gone for the bulk of Sunday)
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Obellisk posted...

Thats just it puns. It might as well be final 3. Forget I'm here. It's you, Ulti, puns. Rest assured you have worthless confirmed town here. Scums attempt to muddy the waters by no killing was foolish. They succeeded in nothing.

You realize the worthlessness of these statements right?