Poll of the Day > Detroit Music Festival Charges White People Double

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aDirtyShisno
07/07/19 11:54:31 AM
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/detroit-music-festival-sets-ticket-prices-based-on-race

https://news.sky.com/story/festival-charges-double-ticket-price-for-non-people-of-colour-11758249

The AfroFuture music and arts festival has caused an uproar after it was found to be selling tickets at different prices based on the color of the purchasers skin. Early bird tickets were sold in two options, POC, for people of color, tickets priced at $10 and NONPOC tickets priced at $20, with regular ticket prices also selling POC for $20 and NON-POC for $40.

The reasoning for this pricing scheme was explained in the FAQs as promoting equality, stating:

Why do we have POC (people of colour) and Non-POC (white people) tickets? I'm glad you asked! Equality means treating everyone the same.

Equity is insuring (sic) everyone has what they need to be successful. Our ticket structure was built to insure (sic) that the most marginalised communities (people of colour) are provided with an equitable chance at enjoying events in their own community (black Detroit).


Despite a somewhat commonly held belief that marginalized communities cannot be racist this action is almost certainly in violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It is not clear if there are any measures in place to confirm the race of the purchaser.

Rapper Tiny Jag has pulled out from the event in protest calling it non-progressive and not solution-focused.
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Hop103
07/07/19 12:21:07 PM
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That's mega racist and opens them up to a lawsuit.
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Mead
07/07/19 12:21:58 PM
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Thats incredibly stupid
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streamofthesky
07/07/19 12:27:25 PM
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I hope they get sued for monetary damages, and possibly jail time, if the law allows for that.

So blatantly breaking civil rights laws, lol
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Lokarin
07/07/19 12:31:53 PM
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But do the tickets go to the same seats?
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Pus_N_Pecans
07/07/19 12:44:45 PM
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I admire the spirit of what they're trying to do, but I feel like they'd get a lot less flak if it was more like a "low income" option instead.
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LOLIAmAnAlt
07/07/19 12:46:54 PM
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Seems pretty racist, can't wait to see how this is spun.
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Mead
07/07/19 12:47:44 PM
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Pus_N_Pecans posted...
I admire the spirit of what they're trying to do, but I feel like they'd get a lot less flak if it was more like a "low income" option instead.


You admire the spirit of discrimination?
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The_tall_midget
07/07/19 12:51:00 PM
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Mead posted...
You admire the spirit of discrimination?


Some regressives are more regressive than others. I mean, I jokingly say that if you let the very groups that claim to be oppressed be in charge, that they would be even more oppressive than the people they are fighting... And they manage to always prove me right.
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argonautweakend
07/07/19 12:59:42 PM
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Mead posted...
Pus_N_Pecans posted...
I admire the spirit of what they're trying to do, but I feel like they'd get a lot less flak if it was more like a "low income" option instead.


You admire the spirit of discrimination?


What i think he means is the musical festival is going "white people are rich and black people are poor" is dumb but a way for low income people(of all races) to pay less wouldn't be a bad idea.
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Pus_N_Pecans
07/07/19 1:02:28 PM
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argonautweakend posted...
What i think she means is the musical festival is going "white people are rich and black people are poor" is dumb but a way for low income people(of all races) to pay less wouldn't be a bad idea.

Yeah, this was it.
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Bugmeat
07/07/19 1:28:30 PM
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It's illegal to charge people more for something based on the color of their skin, isn't it?


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aDirtyShisno
07/07/19 1:30:01 PM
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Bugmeat posted...
It's illegal to charge people more for something based on the color of their skin, isn't it?


Supposedly.
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The_tall_midget
07/07/19 1:35:14 PM
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Bugmeat posted...
It's illegal to charge people more for something based on the color of their skin, isn't it?


Depends against which race you discriminate against.
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aDirtyShisno
07/07/19 1:36:50 PM
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The_tall_midget posted...
Bugmeat posted...
It's illegal to charge people more for something based on the color of their skin, isn't it?


Depends against which race you discriminate against.

Allegedly.
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Broken_Zeus
07/07/19 1:56:20 PM
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I think it's stupid and most likely illegal, but -- at the end of the day -- oh right, I still have a suspension on my history so I can't say anything else. *Grumbles*
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Veedrock-
07/07/19 1:59:23 PM
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It is not clear if there are any measures in place to confirm the race of the purchaser.

Watch them try to wiggle out of this by claiming the NONPOC ticket is purchased on a voluntary basis and is not enforced.
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pedro45
07/07/19 2:25:59 PM
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I guess it's kinda like charging different rates based on age, something you can't control either for yourself.
They should have approached it as a discount like they do for children or seniors since that isn't discrimination.
Like others are saying, maybe a low income option or something would have been more...appropriate.
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Mead
07/07/19 2:30:20 PM
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pedro45 posted...
I guess it's kinda like charging different rates based on age, something you can't control either for yourself.
They should have approached it as a discount like they do for children or seniors since that isn't discrimination.
Like others are saying, maybe a low income option or something would have been more...appropriate.


What are they gonna do though ask people to show a pay stub or their w-2 as evidence of their income?

There are real issues with low income communities struggling but it doesnt fall on a freaking music festival to try and solve societal ills by deciding who should and shouldnt pay more for a service

A non-moronic way to do things would have been to charge $20 a ticket for everyone and have 25% of the money go towards local programs to help struggling families
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Kimbos_Egg
07/07/19 2:39:33 PM
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Fazeo13
07/07/19 2:46:04 PM
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Like I'd want to even place one foot in Detoilet. Oh hell no, bleh, meh.
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EvilMegas
07/07/19 2:49:35 PM
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CharlesBronson
07/07/19 3:12:22 PM
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lol what a joke if someone is marginalized and needs help to be successful it is their own fault for the choices they have made
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SkynyrdRocker
07/07/19 3:14:12 PM
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You gotta discriminate against white people in Detroit Rock City!
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streamofthesky
07/07/19 3:16:35 PM
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Mead posted...
pedro45 posted...
I guess it's kinda like charging different rates based on age, something you can't control either for yourself.
They should have approached it as a discount like they do for children or seniors since that isn't discrimination.
Like others are saying, maybe a low income option or something would have been more...appropriate.


What are they gonna do though ask people to show a pay stub or their w-2 as evidence of their income?

There are real issues with low income communities struggling but it doesnt fall on a freaking music festival to try and solve societal ills by deciding who should and shouldnt pay more for a service

A non-moronic way to do things would have been to charge $20 a ticket for everyone and have 25% of the money go towards local programs to help struggling families

Or you know...just do everything you can to drive down the cost of tickets (including not driving up the costs for some token corporate back-patting charity donation) so that they can be $10 or $15 or whatever for everyone, so it's affordable to all.
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TheWitchMorgana
07/07/19 3:23:26 PM
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aDirtyShisno posted...
this action is almost certainly in violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

i'm not really sure about that, unless "public accommodations" include privately held events

i haven't read the whole act though
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EvilMegas
07/07/19 3:37:37 PM
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I love how when it's a cake for gays: A buisness can run itself anyway it chooses to.

White people charged extra for a concert: OMG This is a violation of our civil rights!
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The_tall_midget
07/07/19 4:52:25 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
I love how when it's a cake for gays: A buisness can run itself anyway it chooses to.

White people charged extra for a concert: OMG This is a violation of our civil rights!


I don't think most people, on both sides of the political spectrum, think that it's okay. Only a few leftist nutcases are defending this, but they're insane, so.
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Bugmeat
07/07/19 5:40:12 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
I love how when it's a cake for gays: A buisness can run itself anyway it chooses to.

White people charged extra for a concert: OMG This is a violation of our civil rights!


I'd would find this to be the same level of bullshit if it were the other way around and a group were charging people of color more to attend an even than they were charging white people.

The cake for gays was pretty much bullshit too. They would have been in trouble for refusing to serve a black couple. The same should have applied to them refusing to serve a gay couple.

Your self righteous indignation just seems foolish to me.


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DirtBasedSoap
07/07/19 5:47:50 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
I love how when it's a cake for gays: A buisness can run itself anyway it chooses to.

White people charged extra for a concert: OMG This is a violation of our civil rights!

if this is a serious post: lol
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mooreandrew58
07/07/19 5:53:12 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
I love how when it's a cake for gays: A buisness can run itself anyway it chooses to.

White people charged extra for a concert: OMG This is a violation of our civil rights!


Iirc they refused to make a specialized cake. Thats different. And I say that as a gay person. If they refused to serve them period it would be a different story. If they charged them more money then you could compare it to this.
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Mead
07/07/19 5:56:56 PM
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CharlesBronson posted...
lol what a joke if someone is marginalized and needs help to be successful it is their own fault for the choices they have made


Yeah how dare they be born in a community with sub standard schools, no test prep, and few job prospects

Terrible choice on their part
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BUMPED2002
07/08/19 10:09:52 AM
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That's a shame!
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Kyuubi4269
07/08/19 10:40:12 AM
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EvilMegas posted...
I love how when it's a cake for gays: A buisness can run itself anyway it chooses to.

White people charged extra for a concert: OMG This is a violation of our civil rights!

The organisers have every right to not throw a whites-only festival if requested, much as the bakers should have every right to not make a cake for something they don't support.

Mead posted...
CharlesBronson posted...
lol what a joke if someone is marginalized and needs help to be successful it is their own fault for the choices they have made


Yeah how dare they be born in a community with sub standard schools, no test prep, and few job prospects

Terrible choice on their part

I'm white, guess that means I was born in Trump towers and can claim my $1M loan whenever I like.
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GameReviews
07/08/19 10:43:56 AM
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So is racism legal now or no?
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Kyuubi4269
07/08/19 10:44:48 AM
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GameReviews posted...
So is racism legal now or no?

It's illegal, but protected classes mean more than you think.
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Archgoat
07/08/19 11:45:24 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
EvilMegas posted...
I love how when it's a cake for gays: A buisness can run itself anyway it chooses to.

White people charged extra for a concert: OMG This is a violation of our civil rights!


Iirc they refused to make a specialized cake. Thats different. And I say that as a gay person. If they refused to serve them period it would be a different story. If they charged them more money then you could compare it to this.


He refused to bake them a cake before they even talked about a design. He did refuse them service period, only to go back on it later and say they could have a cake off the shelf. So he wasn't even willing to make them a normal wedding cake that any other couple would design.

The only reason it is really relevant is that most of the people who defended the baker are really upset by this. Both are terrible in my opinion.
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Fazeo13
07/09/19 10:09:53 AM
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Yeah great! Lets move the Goalposts from accepted racism against white people to specialized cake baking. Alt left nut jobs. Meh.
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The_tall_midget
07/09/19 10:36:47 AM
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Fazeo13 posted...
Yeah great! Lets move the Goalposts from accepted racism against white people to specialized cake baking. Alt left nut jobs. Meh.


No, no! It's not racism because it's actually helping victims at the same time!
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EvilMegas
07/09/19 10:53:34 AM
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Its not racism. Discrimination, yeah. Undoubtedly.
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Kyuubi4269
07/09/19 11:29:43 AM
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EvilMegas posted...
Its not racism. Discrimination, yeah. Undoubtedly.

Racial discrimination is racism.
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Veemon_X
07/09/19 11:48:22 AM
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Certainly not a music festival I would attend even if I could.
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Jen0125
07/09/19 11:54:59 AM
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Won't somebody think of the white people?!
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keyblader1985
07/09/19 11:57:09 AM
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It was wrong. People protested. It was repealed.
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Kyuubi4269
07/09/19 11:58:45 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
Won't somebody think of the white people?!

Imagine feeling so much white guilt you cry over not being charged double.
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Fazeo13
07/09/19 12:28:12 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Won't somebody think of the white people?!

Imagine feeling so much white guilt you cry over not being charged double.


Typical Judenrat collaborator traitor.
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Blorfenburger
07/09/19 12:38:10 PM
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That's hilarious
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BlackScythe0
07/09/19 1:53:44 PM
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It's racist, violates the law, and "revenge" never really helps us end up in a good place.
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Johnny Eagle
07/09/19 2:02:19 PM
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Heard on the local news that tickets for this are $20 for everyone now
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EvilMegas
07/09/19 2:59:39 PM
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I have a really serious question: So is it a problem that men get charged more than women at clubs?
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