Current Events > Disney is changing Ariel in the new live action Little Mermaid

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AceMos posted...

that kind of red almost never looks good in live action

Wasn't Amber Heard's "Mera" in Aquaman that shade of 'Red'?

I didn't have an issue with her version of 'Red' headedness.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

AceMos posted...

that kind of red almost never looks good in live action

Wasn't Amber Heard's "Mera" in Aquaman that shade of 'Red'?

I didn't have an issue with her version of 'Red' headedness.

i did say ALMOST never
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Please tell me she's going to use a push-up bra.

She also needs to be bustier.
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AceMos posted...

i did say ALMOST never

Fair enough.
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Isn't it funny how Aladdin HAD to be racially correct with people of Middle Eastern decent, And the Lion King HAD to have a voice acting cast of African decent, but a Hans Christian Anderson tale...fuck it, let's randomly make her black for no reason right?

Anyone not burying their head in the sand has to see that this is literally a cynical move to pander to blacks to maximize profits. Fuck Disney.
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Suchomimus posted...


Yikes, somebody pulled out their account just to post this and they didn't even try to be clever about it.
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Suchomimus posted...

Isn't it funny how Aladdin HAD to be racially correct with people of Middle Eastern decent, And the Lion King HAD to have a voice acting cast of African decent, but a Hans Christian Anderson tale...fuck it, let's randomly make her black for no reason right?

Anyone not burying their head in the sand has to see that this is literally a cynical move to pander to blacks to maximize profits. Fuck Disney.

And you left out Mu Lan being racially correct.
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Suchomimus posted...

Isn't it funny how Aladdin HAD to be racially correct with people of Middle Eastern decent

Agrabah is set in the Middle-East.

It also really wasn't that long ago when a white guy played the Prince of Persia.

Suchomimus posted...

And the Lion King HAD to have a voice acting cast of African decent

Seth Rogan? John Oliver?

Suchomimus posted...

let's randomly make her black for no reason right?

Can't the actress being right for the role be a good reason?
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Darmik posted...

It also really wasn't that long ago when a white guy played the Prince of Persia.

Jake Gyllenhal shouldn't have played that role.

Ariya Daivari of WWE should've played that role IMO.
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Darmik posted...

Can't the actress being right for the role be a good reason?

I take no issue with the actress in question. She is not at fault here, the suits at Disney are. You mean to tell me they could not find one single talented, young redheaded actress? Lol.

This is a diversity hire plain and simple and you are naive if you do not see it.
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If I were to be a casting director, Id try to get the race of the fictional character correct. Black, white, Asian - accuracy would be key.
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if any one saw that post i aplogize it was uncalled for
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Man so many racists on both the white and black side are coming out for this topic, god damn.
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Suchomimus posted...

You mean to tell me they could not find one single talented, young redheaded actress? Lol.

Do you think the same about a blonde white men and Aquaman?

Suchomimus posted...

This is a diversity hire plain and simple and you are naive if you do not see it.

The actress seems like an extremely talented singer so she probably earned it.

Bass_X0 posted...

If I were to be a casting director, Id try to get the race of the fictional character correct. Black, white, Asian - accuracy would be key.

The race in question is Mermaid.
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Leanaunfurled posted...

Lin-Manuel Miranda is involved so it's an automatic must-see-this-this-will-be-dope for me.

Exact opposite for me

Getting tired of this dude's weak ass music
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Suchomimus posted...

Darmik posted...

Can't the actress being right for the role be a good reason?

I take no issue with the actress in question. She is not at fault here, the suits at Disney are. You mean to tell me they could not find one single talented, young redheaded actress? Lol.

This is a diversity hire plain and simple and you are naive if you do not see it.

Natural redheads don't have the same hair color as animated Ariel.

Now then, let's talk fish. Few animals have two types of external protection. Skin, scales, fur, feathers, etc. There's virtually zero evolutionary advantages to being pale in the ocean, for that matter. That is to say, being a white fish only increases your visibility to larger predators unless you live in a habitat where you blend in with your surroundings. As mermaids are depicted as larger creatures, they'd not use camouflage. There's also the part where their hair would make it more difficult for them to swim efficiently, especially in underwater ocean currents.

Oh! And then there's the part where they're, you know, a fictional made-up species so it isn't as though the concept of race applies to them.
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I mean really if we were talking about accuracy and realism mermaids should probably match their fin color all the way through so Ariel should be green skinned.
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You know someone's got a bad take when they refer to black people as "blacks".
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Darmik posted...

I mean really if we were talking about accuracy and realism mermaids should probably match their fin color all the way through so Ariel should be green skinned.

very true

hell she should not even have hair at all
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AceMos posted...

Darmik posted...

I mean really if we were talking about accuracy and realism mermaids should probably match their fin color all the way through so Ariel should be green skinned.

very true

hell she should not even have hair at all

She should look like Thane from Mass Effect with boobs.
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Bass_X0 posted...

If I were to be a casting director, Id try to get the race of the fictional character correct. Black, white, Asian - accuracy would be key.

Nobody is going to look exactly like a cartoon character. And Unless you're equally worried with the specifics of the slope of Ariel's nose bridge, cheek bone height, space between eyes, etc; skin color is hardly an important feature to worry about. But if people were that anal about how much an actor looks like a cartoon character, pretty much every live-action movie based on a cartoon wouldn't exist. Now if somebody is more worried about skin color than say the differences between how Michael Keaton and Christian Bale look as Batman, they're just racist as fuck.

Unless race or demographics play an important role in the source material, there's no reason to worry about what race the actress is.

Gingers just can't catch a break.

Hollywood seems to hate gingers/redheads.
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Darmik posted...

Do you think the same about a blonde white men and Aquaman?

No since nobody gave a shit about Aquaman on the level of Ariel who most 90s kids have a strong familiarity with. Many redheads have a strong affinity with her as Ariel is often the first representation of redheads that many kids see. To strip this away for no reason other than to cash in on Woke Points is just...why?
Ariel is also the newest addition to redheaded characters being randomly race swapped for no reason whatsoever joining the ranks of Annie, Starfire, Hermione Granger (Harry Potter play), Mary Jane Watson, Triss (Witcher Netflix series), Iris Allen, Wally West, and Jimmy Olsen (DC CW Universe). What do they have against gingers?

Darmik posted...

The actress seems like an extremely talented singer so she probably earned it.

Great, maybe there will be less autotune in these live action Disney shitfests then. There's a silver lining. I'll reiterate, Halle Bailey is talented and I'm sure she has a great voice but she shouldve been saved for Princess and the Frog or even Hunchback. My advice to Disney: Take time and actually do representations right but also introduce African or even Jamaica cultures that actually have black people in their cultural fairytales.

Hell, there is a wealth of black characters that deserve a movie instead of race swapping characters with decades of lore. There are tons to choose from starting with DC and Marvel: Moon Girl, Misty Knight, Blade, Bishop, Storm, Luke Cage, Firestorm, Batwing, Vixen, Nubia, Spectrum etc

Darmik posted...

The race in question is Mermaid.

gunplagirl posted...

Natural redheads don't have the same hair color as animated Ariel.

Now then, let's talk fish. Few animals have two types of external protection. Skin, scales, fur, feathers, etc. There's virtually zero evolutionary advantages to being pale in the ocean, for that matter. That is to say, being a white fish only increases your visibility to larger predators unless you live in a habitat where you blend in with your surroundings. As mermaids are depicted as larger creatures, they'd not use camouflage. There's also the part where their hair would make it more difficult for them to swim efficiently, especially in underwater ocean currents.

Oh! And then there's the part where they're, you know, a fictional made-up species so it isn't as though the concept of race applies to them.

Darmik posted...

I mean really if we were talking about accuracy and realism mermaids should probably match their fin color all the way through so Ariel should be green skinned.

MrMallard posted...

You know someone's got a bad take when they refer to black people as "blacks".

Ahh I see now. You're all just being coy. Very well.
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C'mon dude. Aquaman has had way more 'lore' than a cartoon from the 90's.

Nobody has said she won't have red hair either as far as I know.
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so would they change the Ariel cast members on Disney parks because of this?
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masterbarf posted...

Bass_X0 posted...

If I were to be a casting director, Id try to get the race of the fictional character correct. Black, white, Asian - accuracy would be key.

Nobody is going to look exactly like a cartoon character. And Unless you're equally worried with the specifics of the slope of Ariel's nose bridge, cheek bone height, space between eyes, etc; skin color is hardly an important feature to worry about. But if people were that anal about how much an actor looks like a cartoon character, pretty much every live-action movie based on a cartoon wouldn't exist. Now if somebody is more worried about skin color than say the differences between how Michael Keaton and Christian Bale look as Batman, they're just racist as fuck.

Unless race or demographics play an important role in the source material, there's no reason to worry about what race the actress is.

Cosplayers are able to stay true to a cartoon. But then they have more respect for the source material than Hollywood does.
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Pseudo_Legacy posted...

so would they change the Ariel cast members on Disney parks because of this?

Have they done that for any of the live action movies? At most they'd probably have white and black Ariel's?
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@Darmik posted...

AceMos posted...

Darmik posted...

I mean really if we were talking about accuracy and realism mermaids should probably match their fin color all the way through so Ariel should be green skinned.

very true

hell she should not even have hair at all

She should look like Thane from Mass Effect with boobs.

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Darmik posted...

Pseudo_Legacy posted...

so would they change the Ariel cast members on Disney parks because of this?

Have they done that for any of the live action movies? At most they'd probably have white and black Ariel's?

What about our Asian Ariel's, don't forget Indian Ariel's, Middle Eastern Ariel's, Pacific Islander Ariel's, Latino Ariel's, etc.

We all want in on ethnic / skin color casting.

If you're going to have a Black Ariel, why can't there be more than one type of "Ariel"?

Any actress can literally dye their hair red for the part.
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Bass_X0 posted...

masterbarf posted...

Bass_X0 posted...

If I were to be a casting director, Id try to get the race of the fictional character correct. Black, white, Asian - accuracy would be key.

Nobody is going to look exactly like a cartoon character. And Unless you're equally worried with the specifics of the slope of Ariel's nose bridge, cheek bone height, space between eyes, etc; skin color is hardly an important feature to worry about. But if people were that anal about how much an actor looks like a cartoon character, pretty much every live-action movie based on a cartoon wouldn't exist. Now if somebody is more worried about skin color than say the differences between how Michael Keaton and Christian Bale look as Batman, they're just racist as fuck.

Unless race or demographics play an important role in the source material, there's no reason to worry about what race the actress is.

Cosplayers are able to stay true to a cartoon. But then they have more respect for the source material than Hollywood does.

I highly doubt cosplayers only cosplay as characters they share ethnicity with. Even if they did, it's completely irrelevant. For one Ariel is a specific character. She has no nationality that dictates what her skin tone should be. She comes from a world where race is not an issue. It's meaningless to her character. Whether or not it's meaningful to any other character in other universes is irrelevant.

And why is pigment of skin so important to you that you call changing it (to what degree is okay btw) is more disrespectful, than any of a thousand other measurable physical attributes?

PS: It seems there are people who have a problem with Disney trying to promote an agenda. I know it's hard for racists to understand, but whether or not they intentionally choose a black actress or a white actress, they are equally concerned with race. And if Disney suggests that she has to be white, despite the fact that it's irrelevant to the who she is or the universe she comes from, they're promoting the agenda that race has inherent meaning. That's even worse than some ideal racists are turned off by.

KamenRiderBlade posted...

Darmik posted...

Pseudo_Legacy posted...

so would they change the Ariel cast members on Disney parks because of this?

Have they done that for any of the live action movies? At most they'd probably have white and black Ariel's?

What about our Asian Ariel's, don't forget Indian Ariel's, Middle Eastern Ariel's, Pacific Islander Ariel's, Latino Ariel's, etc.

We all want in on ethnic / skin color casting.

If you're going to have a Black Ariel, why can't there be more than one type of "Ariel"?

Any actress can literally dye their hair red for the part.

Sure. Why not?
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iPhone_7 posted...

Black mermaid:

Woke crowd - yaass history in making, so inspirational for new generation of little girls #progress #DisneyHereHaveMoreMoneyPlease,HellTakeTheWholeWallet

Trumper Nazis- wtf how could they do this, of all things how could they do this to OUR Ariel. Such injustice, this is just another example of white genocide!

White Princess & the Frog:

sjws: *freak out on social media*, *demands the end of the careers of all involved, branded racist on foreheads, & be exiled from society*

Republi****: haha take that liberals!

Exactly why this country and the world for that matter will never be truly at peace

All sides want to trigger each other and truly ENJOY doing it. The revel in it. Bask in each others tears.
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Darmik posted...

Sure. Why not?

So basically we need to have 4 dozen different types of "Ariel's" show up on screen and then have the Prince fall in love with the actress that they choose as the Protagonist "Ariel".

Enough Ariel's to represent every Ethnicity / Skin color in existence.

Would that be fair?

Every single one can dye their hair red for the part of varying Red shades.

Then the Actress that they hired can have her Red hair dyed to match the original Cartoon's Red and be representative of the "Ariel" that Disney chooses.

That should make it fair.
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What are you blabbing about? I thought you were talking about theme park costumes. You're not making any sense.
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Darmik posted...

What are you blabbing about? I thought you were talking about theme park costumes. You're not making any sense.

I'm talking about on-screen representation in the movie.
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Why would they have several actors playing one role in the one movie?
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How many actors have played Spider-Man? Or Batman? They all looked different from each other. Why is skin color so important to the racists on this board? I know it's because they're racist, but I thought I'd ask.

Darmik posted...

Why would they have several actors playing one role in the one movie?

Because the character of Ariel would be expanded to multiple characters as the daughters of Triton.

This way they can "Represent" each ethnicity.

Triton can literally have 4 dozen daughters all named Ariel-____ <Does Triton have a Last Name>?

Kind of like how some people have "Hyphenated" First Names.

They can show it on screen before they focus on the actress who they hired as the protagonist.

She can be the "Ariel" that is different and falls in love with a human.
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masterbarf posted...

How many actors have played Spider-Man? Or Batman? They all looked different from each other. Why is skin color so important to the racists on this board? I know it's because they're racist, but I thought I'd ask.

When has there ever been a black Bruce Wayne or Peter Parker?

Miles Morales was Marvels way of having a black kid be Spider-Man without changing the race of Peter Parker. Id welcome Miles Morales being Spider-Man in a movie, but Id be offended if they cast the actor that should be Miles Morales but called the character Peter Parker instead.
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Isn't T'Challa basically a variant on the Bruce Wayne archetype of Human Vigilante Super Hero?
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Isn't T'Challa basically a variant on the Bruce Wayne archetype of Human Vigilante Super Hero?

I thought that years ago reading the Black Panther comics. Hes basically an African Bruce Wayne and Batman.
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She can sing, that's a bonus. It'll still be dubbed over though.
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What about Battle Angel Alita Mermaid?

No?
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Bass_X0 posted...

masterbarf posted...

How many actors have played Spider-Man? Or Batman? They all looked different from each other. Why is skin color so important to the racists on this board? I know it's because they're racist, but I thought I'd ask.

When has there ever been a black Bruce Wayne or Peter Parker?

Miles Morales was Marvels way of having a black kid be Spider-Man without changing the race of Peter Parker. Id welcome Miles Morales being Spider-Man in a movie, but Id be offended if they cast the actor that should be Miles Morales but called the character Peter Parker instead.

My point is that there are countless physical attributes, and skin color is not inherently more important than any of them. I don't know enough about Batman to know if race plays a major role in his universe and thusly shaped who he is, but I know damn well skin color is no more important in the Little Mermaid universe than the difference between Keaton and Kilmer's chin height is in the Batman universe.

008Zulu posted...

She can sing, that's a bonus. It'll still be dubbed over though.

You mean they'll Auto-Tune her singing to be perfect?
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

I know that Chernobyl show means meltdowns are in right now, but holy shit dude
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DrizztLink posted...

KamenRiderBlade posted...

I know that Chernobyl show means meltdowns are in right now, but holy shit dude

You haven't even seen a real "Melt-Down" yet!
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

008Zulu posted...

She can sing, that's a bonus. It'll still be dubbed over though.

You mean they'll Auto-Tune her singing to be perfect?

More like acoustically neutralizing it. You ever try singing in a cave, or near the ocean? There are reverberations and echos. High School Musical movies had the same problem.
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008Zulu posted...

More like acoustically neutralizing it. You ever try singing in a cave, or near the ocean? There are reverberations and echos. High School Musical movies had the same problem.

Wouldn't they be most likely in a Green Screen in some studio instead of live in some actual cave or ocean?
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