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Kastrada
07/03/19 6:15:20 PM
#151:


dj4242 posted...
Because Aquaman is a lame character and Mamoa made him into something fucking amazing


And Ariel is a lame character and Halle is a fucking treasure. >_>

Seriously check her and her sister's album out. It's phenomenal.
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Rath_Attack
07/03/19 6:17:23 PM
#152:


creativerealms posted...
Well Jenny McCarthy is rumored to be Ursula so yes they are going for someone chubby.

That wasn't confirmed yet, because I'm wouldn't mind Tituss Burgess.

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dj4242
07/03/19 6:18:27 PM
#153:


Kastrada posted...
dj4242 posted...
Because Aquaman is a lame character and Mamoa made him into something fucking amazing


And Ariel is a lame character and Halle is a fucking treasure. >_>

Seriously check her and her sister's album out. It's phenomenal.


When I have time later
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Kastrada
07/03/19 6:21:59 PM
#154:


dj4242 posted...
Kastrada posted...
dj4242 posted...
Because Aquaman is a lame character and Mamoa made him into something fucking amazing


And Ariel is a lame character and Halle is a fucking treasure. >_>

Seriously check her and her sister's album out. It's phenomenal.


When I have time later


The Kids Are Alright. Haven't really checked out their mixtapes or EP yet.
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NeoShadowhen
07/03/19 6:24:54 PM
#155:


Shablagoo posted...
as long as dey show me da seashell


They wont.

It would anger the furious few.
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Gamerguymass
07/03/19 6:25:29 PM
#156:


Funkydog posted...
Gamerguymass posted...
yet you seem to think that is some sort of joke.

You got something right at least.


So you are a Christian fundamentalist that doesn't believe in evolution so I shouldn't take anything you say seriously. Gotcha.
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ZMythos
07/03/19 6:29:51 PM
#157:


Man are people REALLY mad about this?

She looks the part just fine in that picture.
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Darmik
07/03/19 6:31:14 PM
#158:


ZMythos posted...
Man are people REALLY mad about this?

She looks the part just fine in that picture.


Remember people boycotted Beauty and the Beast because it had a gay man?

People are really fragile over Disney movies.
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Questionmarktarius
07/03/19 6:32:49 PM
#159:


Darmik posted...
People are really fragile over Disney movies.

...absurdly so when it's Star Wars.
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ZMythos
07/03/19 6:33:26 PM
#160:


Darmik posted...
People are really fragile over Disney movies.

I don't get it.

If someone's racist ass gets triggered over a casting choice for a movie they prolly barely cared about then they're just making themselves miserable.
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BLAKUboy
07/03/19 6:35:09 PM
#161:


...Why is this topic suddenly 4 pages?
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Inferno Dive Dragoon
07/03/19 6:35:17 PM
#162:


Darmik posted...
ZMythos posted...
Man are people REALLY mad about this?

She looks the part just fine in that picture.


Remember people boycotted Beauty and the Beast because it had a gay man?

People are really fragile over Disney movies.


Eh, I don't care about the live action adaptations in general.

I only commented on the whole "redhead turning black" thing because it's happened several times in the last few years and this is the latest example of it. Might as well be a meme at this point.
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Darmik
07/03/19 6:35:17 PM
#163:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Darmik posted...
People are really fragile over Disney movies.

...absurdly so when it's Star Wars.


Ah yes this makes me remember that Disney Stars Wars first controversy of "Why did this trailer start with a black Stormtrooper?!"
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ZMythos
07/03/19 6:37:04 PM
#164:


Questionmarktarius posted...
...absurdly so when it's Star Wars.

I mean Disney Star Wars has been obscenely bad in its own regard. Nothing to do with the casting itself, just terrible writing and cinematography.

Rogue One was the best out of the recent SW movies, and even it had some big problems
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nemu
07/03/19 6:38:20 PM
#166:


I don't see any problem with it. Though I feel great annoyance towards anyone who praises this change and bitches about it the other way around. It's either acceptable in all cases or it isn't acceptable at all.
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TheVipaGTS
07/03/19 6:39:06 PM
#167:


..Im still laughing at the notion that a fictional mermaid who lives in an underwater world where her best friends are a talking flounder and a Jamaican crab isnt the right race for some people. Yall really need to take a look in the mirror and question what you choose to bitch and moan about. And really question about WHY youre bitching about this.
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Hanky_Bannister
07/03/19 6:39:08 PM
#168:


Gamerguymass posted...
Yeah this is like the one princess you don't race change. Aside from the fact I'm against race/gender swapping major characters, her bright red hair is what makes her character iconic. Only white people, and only a small percentage at that, have red hair. I'm sorry but black skin and bright red hair like that just won't look good if they keep the hair. And If they don't keep the hair, then what's the fucking point? Its no longer Ariel.

WHY MUST YOU ALWAYS FUCK WITH MY CHILDHOOD DISNEY?!?!?!?!

Reeeeeeeee
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CapnMuffin
07/03/19 6:42:07 PM
#169:


Ariels defining trait was her voice not her skin color or hair. The latter have zero implications or effect on the character and story.
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NeoShadowhen
07/03/19 6:43:51 PM
#170:


TheVipaGTS posted...
..Im still laughing at the notion that a fictional mermaid who lives in an underwater world where her best friends are a talking flounder and a Jamaican crab isnt the right race for some people. Yall really need to take a look in the mirror and question what you choose to bitch and moan about. And really question about WHY youre bitching about this.


Because I wanted to see a hot redhead in a seashell bikini. Not a hot dye-job in something other than a seashell bikini because it would be triggering to show something that revealing.

I wanted to fap to Ariel, but refuse to fap to animated characters. I cant fap to dye-jobs on principle.

Actually, this all might be okay if they dont go with the red hair.

NO RED HAIR!!!!!!
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Kastrada
07/03/19 6:44:21 PM
#171:


DJ where did your last post go? Did it honestly get modded? There was nothing wrong with it. Was actually going to support it somewhat. >_>
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AceMos
07/03/19 6:44:49 PM
#172:


is it wrong part of me wishes they would replace the prince with a princess just because it would give me tons of entertainment to watch people get upset
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ultimate reaver
07/03/19 6:46:40 PM
#173:


NeoShadowhen posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
..Im still laughing at the notion that a fictional mermaid who lives in an underwater world where her best friends are a talking flounder and a Jamaican crab isnt the right race for some people. Yall really need to take a look in the mirror and question what you choose to bitch and moan about. And really question about WHY youre bitching about this.


Because I wanted to see a hot redhead in a seashell bikini. Not a hot dye-job in something other than a seashell bikini because it would be triggering to show something that revealing.

I wanted to fap to Ariel, but refuse to fap to animated characters. I cant fap to dye-jobs on principle.

Actually, this all might be okay if they dont go with the red hair.

NO RED HAIR!!!!!!


stop jerking off to kids movies. if you're really intent on jerking it to the character im sure there are plentiful amounts of cosplayers
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NeoShadowhen
07/03/19 6:48:43 PM
#174:


AceMos posted...
is it wrong part of me wishes they would replace the prince with a princess just because it would give me tons of entertainment to watch people get upset


Yup. It is generally wrong to derive pleasure from people getting upset, even if their reasons for being upset are detestable. There are many emotions that would be appropriate in those situations, but deriving pleasure is... lower on the humanity scale.
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NeoShadowhen
07/03/19 6:49:35 PM
#175:


ultimate reaver posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
..Im still laughing at the notion that a fictional mermaid who lives in an underwater world where her best friends are a talking flounder and a Jamaican crab isnt the right race for some people. Yall really need to take a look in the mirror and question what you choose to bitch and moan about. And really question about WHY youre bitching about this.


Because I wanted to see a hot redhead in a seashell bikini. Not a hot dye-job in something other than a seashell bikini because it would be triggering to show something that revealing.

I wanted to fap to Ariel, but refuse to fap to animated characters. I cant fap to dye-jobs on principle.

Actually, this all might be okay if they dont go with the red hair.

NO RED HAIR!!!!!!


stop jerking off to kids movies. if you're really intent on jerking it to the character im sure there are plentiful amounts of cosplayers


You stop jerking it.
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Bass_X0
07/03/19 6:50:33 PM
#176:


Questionmarktarius posted...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-k1lyLWwAIkb9z?format=jpg
Well... they didn't fuck up, apparently.


Not red enough.
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Bass_X0
07/03/19 6:52:44 PM
#177:


CapnMuffin posted...
Ariels defining trait was her voice not her skin color or hair. The latter have zero implications or effect on the character and story.


You dont hear her voice in pictures. What is her defining visual trait? Forget her personality and story, when you picture Ariel, whats the first thing that comes to mind.
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AceMos
07/03/19 6:53:25 PM
#178:


Bass_X0 posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
Ariels defining trait was her voice not her skin color or hair. The latter have zero implications or effect on the character and story.


You dont hear her voice in pictures. What is her defining visual trait? Forget her personality and story, when you picture Ariel, whats the first thing that comes to mind.

the fish tail
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Blue_Dream87
07/03/19 6:53:49 PM
#179:


I expected exactly how this topic would turn out without even knowing the actress coming in.

Get salty, racists
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Bass_X0
07/03/19 6:55:44 PM
#180:


TheVipaGTS posted...
..Im still laughing at the notion that a fictional mermaid who lives in an underwater world where her best friends are a talking flounder and a Jamaican crab isnt the right race for some people. Yall really need to take a look in the mirror and question what you choose to bitch and moan about. And really question about WHY youre bitching about this.


People want an accurate visual representation of how a long-term established character is often depicted as. It doesnt matter what that character originally looked like, people will be upset if any part of the original character design is changed.
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Funkydog
07/03/19 6:55:54 PM
#181:


Bass_X0 posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
Ariels defining trait was her voice not her skin color or hair. The latter have zero implications or effect on the character and story.


You dont hear her voice in pictures. What is her defining visual trait? Forget her personality and story, when you picture Ariel, whats the first thing that comes to mind.

Dinglehoppers.
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BLAKUboy
07/03/19 6:56:16 PM
#182:


ultimate reaver posted...
if you're really intent on jerking it to the character im sure there are plentiful amounts of cosplayers

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/96/21/9e/96219e625ac0ce9071f6f8998586a7b4.jpg
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dj4242
07/03/19 6:56:28 PM
#183:


Kastrada posted...
DJ where did your last post go? Did it honestly get modded? There was nothing wrong with it. Was actually going to support it somewhat. >_>


Deleted it because I felt bad

Honestly white washing roles are terrible, I refuse to watch many of those movies. Just feel the same even when its reversed.

Everyone deserves representation in all media but it can be done without changing characters that have existed for decades
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Darmik
07/03/19 6:58:56 PM
#184:


Bass_X0 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
..Im still laughing at the notion that a fictional mermaid who lives in an underwater world where her best friends are a talking flounder and a Jamaican crab isnt the right race for some people. Yall really need to take a look in the mirror and question what you choose to bitch and moan about. And really question about WHY youre bitching about this.


People want an accurate visual representation of how a long-term established character is often depicted as. It doesnt matter what that character originally looked like, people will be upset if any part of the original character design is changed.


Worked out fine for Aquaman
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AceMos
07/03/19 7:00:01 PM
#185:


dj4242 posted...
Kastrada posted...
DJ where did your last post go? Did it honestly get modded? There was nothing wrong with it. Was actually going to support it somewhat. >_>


Deleted it because I felt bad

Honestly white washing roles are terrible, I refuse to watch many of those movies. Just feel the same even when its reversed.

Everyone deserves representation in all media but it can be done without changing characters that have existed for decades

one little problem with that media saturated things with so many white strait males for decades its very hard for NEW characters to even get created

when they are they get accused of just pandering

and for decades racist caricatures where used in the media which spread globally japan did not know black face was racist untill very recently do to the cultural impact old cartoons had as just one example

you may not likeit but this is a result of decades of refusing to let anything but white strait males into the media
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Bass_X0
07/03/19 7:01:00 PM
#186:


Hollywood wants a new movie about a black character? Cool.

Hollywood wants a new movie about a black character who has always been white before? Not cool.

Hollywood wants a new movie about a white character who has always been Asian before? Not cool.

I also disagree with Aunt May being young and attractive. Thats just not Aunt May. They done f***ed it up.
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DezDroppedFreak
07/03/19 7:01:09 PM
#187:


She can sing her ass off

Her sister too

They were the highlight of the super bowl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeSAQAob5WQ" data-time="


No wonder she got cast

Who fucking cares what ethnicity the character is

It literally does not matter
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TheVipaGTS
07/03/19 7:01:21 PM
#188:


Bass_X0 posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
Ariels defining trait was her voice not her skin color or hair. The latter have zero implications or effect on the character and story.


You dont hear her voice in pictures. What is her defining visual trait? Forget her personality and story, when you picture Ariel, whats the first thing that comes to mind.

Based on the Disney movie we think of the redhead, but her physical appearance is not at all relevant to the story. Ariel isnt an icon or a set in stone person. She is a character in a cartoon and her race doesnt define her in that cartoon.
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1NfamousACE_2
07/03/19 7:02:19 PM
#189:


But why can't Black Panther be white!?!?
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AceMos
07/03/19 7:03:05 PM
#190:


question was the mermaids hair color red in the original book cus looking at its cover it seems it was black
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pauIie
07/03/19 7:04:18 PM
#191:


dj4242 posted...
Kastrada posted...
DJ where did your last post go? Did it honestly get modded? There was nothing wrong with it. Was actually going to support it somewhat. >_>


Deleted it because I felt bad

Honestly white washing roles are terrible, I refuse to watch many of those movies. Just feel the same even when its reversed.

Everyone deserves representation in all media but it can be done without changing characters that have existed for decades


i agree with most of this. disagree with the bolded.
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Bass_X0
07/03/19 7:04:35 PM
#192:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
Ariels defining trait was her voice not her skin color or hair. The latter have zero implications or effect on the character and story.


You dont hear her voice in pictures. What is her defining visual trait? Forget her personality and story, when you picture Ariel, whats the first thing that comes to mind.

Based on the Disney movie we think of the redhead, but her physical appearance is not at all relevant to the story. Ariel isnt an icon or a set in stone person. She is a character in a cartoon and her race doesnt define her in that cartoon.


Then just keep her how she was. No need to change a race if its not a defining trait.

Would you also say that Sonic the Hedgehog being blue is not a defining trait of his? And if they turned him brown like real hedgehogs, we should just accept it?
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DezDroppedFreak
07/03/19 7:05:25 PM
#193:


Bass_X0 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
Ariels defining trait was her voice not her skin color or hair. The latter have zero implications or effect on the character and story.


You dont hear her voice in pictures. What is her defining visual trait? Forget her personality and story, when you picture Ariel, whats the first thing that comes to mind.

Based on the Disney movie we think of the redhead, but her physical appearance is not at all relevant to the story. Ariel isnt an icon or a set in stone person. She is a character in a cartoon and her race doesnt define her in that cartoon.


Then just keep her how she was. No need to change a race if its not a defining trait.

Would you also say that Sonic the Hedgehog being blue is not a defining trait of his? And if they turned him brown like real hedgehogs, we should just accept it?


Bro shut the fuck up. Thats a false equivalency and you know it
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Darmik
07/03/19 7:06:03 PM
#194:


1NfamousACE_2 posted...
But why can't Black Panther be white!?!?


Because he is King of an African nation called Wakanda

AceMos posted...
question was the mermaids hair color red in the original book cus looking at its cover it seems it was black


I think the most faithful Disney adaptation is from Kimba the White Lion and they won't admit it
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Bass_X0
07/03/19 7:07:56 PM
#195:


DezDroppedFreak posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
Ariels defining trait was her voice not her skin color or hair. The latter have zero implications or effect on the character and story.


You dont hear her voice in pictures. What is her defining visual trait? Forget her personality and story, when you picture Ariel, whats the first thing that comes to mind.

Based on the Disney movie we think of the redhead, but her physical appearance is not at all relevant to the story. Ariel isnt an icon or a set in stone person. She is a character in a cartoon and her race doesnt define her in that cartoon.


Then just keep her how she was. No need to change a race if its not a defining trait.

Would you also say that Sonic the Hedgehog being blue is not a defining trait of his? And if they turned him brown like real hedgehogs, we should just accept it?


Bro shut the fuck up. Thats a false equivalency and you know it


Changing the appearance of one fictional character is the same as changing the appearance of another fictional character.

If were supposed to be okay with Ariel being played by a black actress, then hypothetically we should also supposed to be okay if Sonic the Hedgehog turned dark brown like a real hedgehog. Seeing as people say a fictional characters defining trait isnt their color palette.
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1NfamousACE_2
07/03/19 7:08:45 PM
#196:


Darmik posted...
Because he is King of an African nation called Wakanda


So Africans can't be white?
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Darmik
07/03/19 7:08:47 PM
#197:


Why are people assuming she won't have red hair?
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TheVipaGTS
07/03/19 7:09:14 PM
#198:


Bass_X0 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
Ariels defining trait was her voice not her skin color or hair. The latter have zero implications or effect on the character and story.


You dont hear her voice in pictures. What is her defining visual trait? Forget her personality and story, when you picture Ariel, whats the first thing that comes to mind.

Based on the Disney movie we think of the redhead, but her physical appearance is not at all relevant to the story. Ariel isnt an icon or a set in stone person. She is a character in a cartoon and her race doesnt define her in that cartoon.


Then just keep her how she was. No need to change a race if its not a defining trait.

Would you also say that Sonic the Hedgehog being blue is not a defining trait of his? And if they turned him brown like real hedgehogs, we should just accept it?

Shut up dude. Sure there is nothing wrong with keeping it as is. There is also nothing wrong with changing it. You realize she wasnt always a redhead or described as such right? Disney took liberties and went with their own design the first time. Why are you NOW putting your foot down?
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AceMos
07/03/19 7:09:15 PM
#199:


Darmik posted...
Why are people assuming she won't have red hair?

its been prove she WILL
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Darmik
07/03/19 7:09:54 PM
#200:


1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Darmik posted...
Because he is King of an African nation called Wakanda


So Africans can't be white?


Sure they can.

They probably won't be in the isolationist country of Wakanda though.
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dj4242
07/03/19 7:09:59 PM
#201:


pauIie posted...
dj4242 posted...
Kastrada posted...
DJ where did your last post go? Did it honestly get modded? There was nothing wrong with it. Was actually going to support it somewhat. >_>


Deleted it because I felt bad

Honestly white washing roles are terrible, I refuse to watch many of those movies. Just feel the same even when its reversed.

Everyone deserves representation in all media but it can be done without changing characters that have existed for decades


i agree with most of this. disagree with the bolded.


Why?
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