Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 16: Conflict Resolution

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Lopen posted...

You want the real tinfoil hat theory? Ben was going to name 3 scum scans, with the third being SBell, until he saw the reaction to the absurdity of 3 scum scans.

Not likely given one of my first posts today was calling Sbell assuredly town. Lol
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Corrik7 posted...

It basically confirms Lolo, Me, Ben, 5tar as all town over tonight.

que
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Lopen posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I thought Sbell was town

Explain when and how you came to this conclusion when you've not shifted any of your other scum reads

Day 3 when Pez was favoring lynching him over Mzero. And then Sbell's own reactions to the suspicions on him I think are honest
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Tom Bombadil posted...

Corrik7 posted...

It basically confirms Lolo, Me, Ben, 5tar as all town over tonight.

que

Over night phase we get the flip result that Ben was telling the truth on his scan. Lolo dies from his shot the prior night with a 2nd kill (unless I delay another which just confirms the no kill the night before is real). Which confirms me as a delayer. Which confirms 5tar who lolo protected last night as the scum target.

Everyone is confirmed over the night phase from lynch to start. Plus 2 of those 4 will be dead and flipped town tomorrow.
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Lopen posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I thought Sbell was town

Explain when and how you came to this conclusion when you've not shifted any of your other scum reads

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You want the truth lopen? Ben's my Mason buddy.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Day 3 when Pez was favoring lynching him over Mzero. And then Sbell's own reactions to the suspicions on him I think are honest

MZero flipped town and that reaction from SBell has been present throughout the game

Try harder
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Obellisk posted...

Lopen posted...

SBell has appeared on every list of scum he's made. Interesting he chose to scan Tom over SBell night 3. Especially since SBell was on the confirmed town lynch

Thats a pretty good argument. I'm surprised I'm not a town cleared scan.

Interesting I haven't made a scum list since prior to changing my stance on Sbell Lopen posted...

I like how you post all that stuff with glaring contradictions, particularly on SBell (made more,amusing when Ben claimed he thought SBell was TOWN in this very page)

Makes me want to do my own iso under suspicion you conveniently skipped some stuff

It's almost as if Corrik ISO'd my day 1, 2, and early 3, while my opinion on Sbell only changed because of the events at the end yesterday
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You know what it's the last two nights of GDQ, when I weigh my options of digging deep into this or just cruise controlling until we know more, it's not even a choice really.

I'll just fall in line and see what happens. Not worth the energy to do more.

##Vote: death

But no I have not scanned Sbell. That's just a normal ass town read. Definitely more merit to it when you see that Pez is scum too though
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turbopuns3 posted...

You know what it's the last two nights of GDQ, when I weigh my options of digging deep into this or just cruise controlling until we know more, it's not even a choice really.

I'll just fall in line and see what happens. Not worth the energy to do more.

##Vote: death

Im sorry I made the game boring.

But thank you!
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Nevermind. I read the PM wrong LOL

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How ominous

it is MI time now?
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I blame the real cop for our inevitable loss. Wherever he is.
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I scanned you night 0 Lopen.

So I actually do have 3 guilty scans!
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Camarija posted...

Fun fact

If Ben is Town and NOT Cop, his odds of correctly guessing all 3 alignments for all 3 players is 4.6875%

Gmabler's Fallacy.

@UltimaterializerX

Gambler's fallacy doesn't apply here

Lopen posted...

Also Pez is a really hard sell as scum to me. Do you think he busses Red like he did? He was part of the reason that case got off the ground, and part of the reason it wasn't necessarily a lost cause before 5tar came in.

Just doesn't seem likely to me.

lol

*waves*

You didn't bus red you whined that red threatened you with abuse, made no legitimate attempt to get him lynched, and tried to steal the credit
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Also you weren't even on the scumteam then you were Baron Corbin
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or maybe he DID bus red!!!

##cam
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...now I'm imagining Baron Corbin cutting Cam posts as his promos

it's an improvement

I think
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baron corbin delivered you austin and rock in the same night! he is a lock to be the first undisputed champ!
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Camarija posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Camarija posted...

Fun fact

If Ben is Town and NOT Cop, his odds of correctly guessing all 3 alignments for all 3 players is 4.6875%

Gmabler's Fallacy.

@UltimaterializerX

Gambler's fallacy doesn't apply here

yeah but what about the gmabler one
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Occulam's Razor says Gmabler's Fallacy doesn't apply either
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Lopen posted...

You didn't bus red you whined that red threatened you with abuse, made no legitimate attempt to get him lynched, and tried to steal the credit

Bahahaha

Whatever floats your boat

Let me know once you've caught 2 Mafia consecutively

I will get back to you when Lolo flips scum
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So Lolo is by all expectations dead tonight? Ben is begging Corrik for the protection so he can keep scanning. Hmmm I wonder who will die so Ben can live. I wonder if its the scanner that has been open since D2 and caught red.

I SHALL DIE SO THAT YOU MIGHT LIVE

either that or get you to confirm me

either those or just whiff on somebody and potentially backfire
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I am ready to lynch death whenever yinz are.
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I've been having a lot more fun not making in depth notes on the game that will be immediately ignored

This is the real way to play Mafia!

Forget notes!!! :D

[[If you guys want to play a serious game later, I'll play with notes]]

Corrik7 posted...

I am ready to lynch death whenever yinz are.

I am worried that your claim is fake.

I am also worried that Ben's claim is fake.

Between death and Pez I'm leaning Pez over Death.

We'll see how it goes but I don't have high expectations.

I'm slowly separating effort from this game and it just feels better and better.

Man I just don't know what to do with all this. I don't really see a super great reason to buy Lopen's whole lone wolf spiel beyond Lolo being scum and us not having 0934872309857 protection-y roles, but that's just...a lot of weird assumptions for that theory to work. I think Lolo and Corrik are a wait and see situation for today.

I can't come up with a good town explanation for Ben revealing the scans the way he did, or for not pushing them more than he did. Corrik did a good job backing up his logic with his ISO, but I'm still not entirely sold until we see a flip or two out of him/me/pez/death. Would still rather Death than Pez, and thinking about it I'm not sure I see a point to going for Ben instead.
-If he's actually Cop: We can get started on his scans right away, and will have him semi-confirmed. If we lynch him, we get the same outcome but a lynch behind and maybe losing a scan or two.
-If he's town doing a sneaky: Lynching him gives us a hair more info than lynching his scans, I guess.
-If he's scum: Obv we'd rather lynch him but maybe his scans would help too.
...so I guess it comes down to the obvious conclusion of whether we believe him. I dunno man that is a DANG lot of power. ...Which again goes back to the Lolo/Corrik thing.

I am more tempted than I should be to make the whole ball o'wax a problem for Future Tom and just lynch one of the nilla claims with nothing goin' on >_> Pretty sure that would be a dumb idea that would give us very little info, but I am running out of steam trying to pick the lock on all that.

Currently I think Death is the smart choice.
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...does Lolo still get to act tonight? cuz if he does hey we have two claimed scanners and two dudes who can protect them somewhat so that might be the rare situation where you actually SHOULD coordinate the town power

if Lolo doesn't get to act tonight that is obviously moot and we should all shut up about it now like Ulti says
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comedy option: scum no-killed because they have a scanner and THUMBFEAR IS REAL
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I think there is a high chance something silly is going on, though, so I am afraid I do not share your confidence.
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hey 5tar now that we've all claimed stuff is there any more you can tell us about what you get back and how sure you are about town v. scum? or nah?
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Pez or death doesn't matter. I just keep saying death cuz we need to pick one and Lynch them. No reason to split it with lopen and cam leading the yahoo parade over there trying to lynch the scanner.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

hey 5tar now that we've all claimed stuff is there any more you can tell us about what you get back and how sure you are about town v. scum? or nah?

We are about to have more scum flips to analyze the split
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##Unvote:
##Vote: Death

Im not sold on Bens play but I think this is the logical choice at this point. I think if hes town cop then death is scum.
If hes lying scum I still feel he gives us at least one scum to validate his claim.

What I receive on a scan is the first part of the flavour. Not the name of the player or the role.

What I mean is I receive the first part of the role pm.

For red I got the crawling death quote. For ulti the conversation where the gardener says hes going to clean the pool. For hb it was the quote describing baby Harry.

that DOES make it unlikely you'd misclear Ulti I'd suppose then, thanks
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think we're at 3-3-3 with ben/death/pez?

I guess it wouldn't kill me to put a vote down then
##Vote: Death
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##Unvote

##Vote: Death

I favour Death but it's a literal coin flip so zzz

I'll figure out what the votals are now