Board 8 > Wwe mafia Topic 7- its an IRONMAN MATCH

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Corrik7 posted...

Also if you TRULY believe Red doesn't bus as scum.

For the record I'm putting zero stock into this

Death and Panthera, thoughts about this quote chain from day 1?

turbopuns3 posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

Panthera posted...

Okay Puns is town, reread the beginning of this topic if you doubt it. He's genuinely annoyed at how Ulti is attacking his activity. Like, look at that and tell me the mindset is anything but "what the f*** is this guy for real attacking me for this stupid s***".

y'know you've got a point here- I was kinda putting Puns v. Ulti in the Han v. Sbell category of "I don't like either argument here so I think one is scum" but yeah that does kinda sound like an annoyed town

Wait

Why doesn't that just mean Ulti is the scum

Sounds like you went "this is town/scum" -> "puns is town, so it's not town/scum"

Tom Bombadil posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Why doesn't that just mean Ulti is the scum

after letting it sit for a bit, it seemed more like a reaching town than a scum (wait was that the conversation you were talking about pez)

For what it's worth this makes me feel that IGCD and 5tar are both town.

turbopuns3 posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

Anyway, I think the Ulti train is enough to get me to hop off Sbell. Corrik and Han don't seem that scummy to me at this point, eaed's vote came first, and 5tar has more support than IGCD right now so

Unvote: SBell
Vote: 5tar

Tempted to switch back to Tom for this.

Ho-lee crap that's a scummy vote

Oh Tom followed up the post I quoted in 202

Tom Bombadil posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Why doesn't that just mean Ulti is the scum

after letting it sit for a bit, it seemed more like a reaching town than a scum (wait was that the conversation you were talking about pez)

come to think of it didn't ulti later say the whole thing was a gambit anyway?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Tom, youve played mafia before and know damn good and well what those terms youre asking about mean. Youre giving me vibes of oh crap a guy gone for awhile rolled scum and looks way too obvious about it.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Tom did you seriously try claiming you dont know what iso or PoE are while also reminiscing about how Chris used to play?

Hey pezloco, thoughts?

Tom Bombadil posted...

so you're proposing that I am asking questions about mafia jargon in an effort to look town? Do you honestly think that's more likely than my simply not having encountered them when they weren't in common use back in my day?

Tom Bombadil posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Tom did you seriously try claiming you dont know what iso or PoE are while also reminiscing about how Chris used to play?

since you are asking the question twice I will rephrase: what do I stand to gain from faking ignorance of those terms?

you wanna grill me on gladiator too? That's also a recent development I asked about.

turbopuns3 posted...

Red, who is corrik's partner?

Is it ever Ulti?

I mean, super gambit?

If you assume 4 man scumteam unless you think hes roleblocker gladiator this is basically a hard no.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I dont buy for one second neither were used.

Tom Bombadil posted...

by all means feel free to dig up an instance

while you're doing that maybe you can explain what scum!Tom expects to gain by asking what a term means

UltimaterializerX posted...

Of course you dont stand to gain in the moment you ask stupid questions, but I imagine aw shucks guess I was just silly town guyz is on the list somewhere :D

UltimaterializerX posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

by all means feel free to dig up an instance

while you're doing that maybe you can explain what scum!Tom expects to gain by asking what a term means

Blending in. Its scums job.

Tom Bombadil posted...

I would think that asking a question that everybody knows the answer to would be kinda the opposite of blending in!

Leafeon13N posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Red, who is corrik's partner?

Is it ever Ulti?

I mean, super gambit?

If you assume 4 man scumteam unless you think hes roleblocker gladiator this is basically a hard no.

The first question is more important

UltimaterializerX posted...

Okay Tom checks out for now.

Kill Scare with me!

turbopuns3 posted...

that might be the weakest town clear I've ever seen

this one is irrelevant just me having fun

turbopuns3 posted...

Tom what is your read of me

Tom Bombadil posted...

not as town as it was last time it came up, since it was based on you getting worked up and you have denied being worked up

turbopuns3 posted...

This is such a weak position, though. Out of all my content, you really can't take away anything else?

turbopuns3 posted...

Furthermore why wouldn't being worked up indicate scum?

HanOfTheNekos posted...

idk puns why aren't we lynching SBell yet

Shut up Han!!

Tom Bombadil posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

What reads do you have currently? Scum and/or town

I feel like I have been over most of this already but my leans are currently:

Scum: IGCD, 5tar, Scare, Sbell, red, Miz
Neutral: puns, death, eaed
No clue but gun to my head I'd say town: Corrik, Ulti
Town: pez, Han, Panth
me: Tom

Ulti, humor me.

Reiterate your thoughts on Corrik in this game from start to present. What your reads of him were over time, when and why they changed.

Fuck I forgot Scare called ulti town so hard day 1.

turbopuns3 posted...

red is Tom still scum

turbopuns3 posted...

Pez is tom sill only town because corrik capitalized a word in topic 1?

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Puns, can you see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch?

SHUT UP, HAN!

(It's a joke I <3 Han)

@Corrik7
@UltimaterializerX
@red13n
@Leafeon13N

Serious, important question.

Let's pretend that all of you are town.

Who is scum then?

turbopuns3 posted...

Red, who is corrik's partner?

Is it ever Ulti?

Panth?

Maybe an outside shot of mzero.

Star is such an innocent little child its hard to imagine him scum.

UltimaterializerX posted...

you will never, ever understand why killing a player before a role is the better play.

*eyeroll*

You will never not be you

turbopuns3 posted...

@Corrik7
@UltimaterializerX
@red13n
@Leafeon13N

Serious, important question.

Let's pretend that all of you are town.

Who is scum then?

I am to assume that all of these three are town? Or just I am town in this scenario?

If all 3 are town, 5tar and Puns or 5tar and Panthera.

If just me. I already stated who I think.

I can't see any play the entire game where Ulti has acted as town would. The mere comment that makes me think Ulti could be town was eaeds comment to him based on his behavior.

I can see an argument red is town just based on the fact that Han was rated higher than him and they thought scare was cop. Then when cop was revealed and tracker they had to deal with scanners / doctor hunt. So they never got to red.

But, who did scum shoot night 2. Death says IGCD and I think that is quite plausible.

But, let's say Ulti is Town Vanilla. Scum knows town IGCD supposedly tracked town Ulti to the night kill.

Wouldn't they think Ulti was Doctor then? And have to have shot Ulti last night? I am unsure actually why Ulti never even put forward this argument. That pez saved him cuz with Tom's flip Ulti if tracked to scare was the doctor if town. (Tho pez's role and doctor don't really make sense together, but it would be what SCUM would be thinking if they knew IGCD was town and he said he tracked Ulti there?)

Problem is, I don't think Pez would have saved Ulti even with Tom's flip. The roles can't really exist together. But, again, scum didn't know pez's role. Ulti never even considered this defense at all. Because I think Ulti is just flailing about and isn't actually thinking out the game. Nor red.

Now let's say Ulti is scum and IGCD is town. Scum knows IGCD is lying. So why would they shoot IGCD at night? So who would scum have shot night 2? Me who hinted at power? Red? Surely not IGCD if Ulti is scum who they know is lying. Right?

This is shit that town Red would be all over trying to figure out.

However, he has not advanced a single argument why Ulti is Town and has never acknowledged a single argument that Ulti is by far the most likely to be scum. He has handwaved any and all evidence to the contrary or ignored it.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

The other is that Scum Corrik will always try to end days early and stifle conversation. Anyone that hasn't picked up on that yet is just bad at mafia because he's been doing it for years.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

I've threatened MKs and replaces as town before if I feel like I'm about to get mislynched if I feel it's the best play for town

Illegal and against the rules of mafia as any alignment.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

The other is that Scum Corrik will always try to end days early and stifle conversation. Anyone that hasn't picked up on that yet is just bad at mafia because he's been doing it for years.

That is not exclusive to scum Corrik though
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Corrik7 posted...

I am to assume that all of these three are town? Or just I am town in this scenario?

If all 3 are town, 5tar and Puns or 5tar and Panthera.

Yes you are to assume that you, ulti, and red are all town, that was the prompt.

So I guess explain why 5tar is for sure scum in that scenario and your case against me and Panth.

Point is. All of you are seemingly CERTAIN one of the other, at least, is scum.

What is poor me to do in the world where it's 2 days from now and you're all town. All y'all did was bicker amongst yourselves and ignore the lesser peasant folk.

turbopuns3 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

I am to assume that all of these three are town? Or just I am town in this scenario?

If all 3 are town, 5tar and Puns or 5tar and Panthera.

Yes you are to assume that you, ulti, and red are all town, that was the prompt.

So I guess explain why 5tar is for sure scum in that scenario and your case against me and Panth.

Point is. All of you are seemingly CERTAIN one of the other, at least, is scum.

What is poor me to do in the world where it's 2 days from now and you're all town. All y'all did was bicker amongst yourselves and ignore the lesser peasant folk.

POE. I am 100% positive Death is Town. I am 100% positive Mzero is town. I am like 90% positive IGCD is town.

You are the most scummy of the ones left, but if I was wrong about red and Ulti then it means I am a bit faulty this game with my reads besides eaed. That leaves 5tar who again I feel has done jack shit this game. And Panthera who I think is likely town, but I might just be wanting Panthera to be town more than he is. Panthera has always been someone I like playing with.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

MZero11 posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

The other is that Scum Corrik will always try to end days early and stifle conversation. Anyone that hasn't picked up on that yet is just bad at mafia because he's been doing it for years.

That is not exclusive to scum Corrik though

He does it way more often as scum.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

If Corrik doesn't flip Mafia Roleblocker (and the possibility of hitting that role today is why Corrik should be lynched ASAP

Literally just used a gladiator on Ulti and he said this.

Dying in laughter.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

They can't roleblock AND kill both of you

They literally can roleblock one and kill the other tonight.

Lol this is why Ulti is scum. He is just making shit up as he goes LMFAO.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik7 posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

They can't roleblock AND kill both of you

They literally can roleblock one and kill the other tonight.

Lol this is why Ulti is scum. He is just making shit up as he goes LMFAO.

Only a scum team led by you would be dumb enough to leave Red alive for this long. That guy doesn't have a prayer of living until day 3 if I'm scum and a strongman is on our team.

Cuz he is on your team. Lol.
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It is wild tho how it never crossed "Town" Ulti's mind that Red can be scum and it never crosses "Town" Red's mind that Ulti can be scum today despite the fact... Neither has anything to point towards in being town.

Ulti has poor logic, poor play trying to Lynch Scare who claimed cop day 1, a fake claim caught, scumtells on activity and hostility hit, was gonna "quit" (against the rules again) because he was caught. Was gonna "modkill" him (against the rules again) over it. Argued on what was day before Mylo to repeatedly Lynch him first over Tom, to gladiate him, and to lynch him in how many scenarios. Which is dumb, but we see now just how true that was when it came down to it. It was bluffs. And, no town says mislynch me to send us to Mylo.

Red has a town-town-???? End game Lynch scenario day 1. Where 2 scum (at least half the scum team) were on a Lynch to put him one below. And Ulti was more willing to Lynch claimed town cop than red despite arguing for his Lynch before red got the lead. Splinter vote day 1. Nothing of substance all of day 1 or day 2. Only active to hard defend Ulti without ever providing why he would ever be town besides a track logic which no longer exists.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Yeah this dude has to be drunk or something, because he isn't even reading the game anymore and has resorted to base trolling. Another thing this loser does as scum all the time, for the record.

Oh and if town uses a free mislynch on me, your order has to be Corrik -> Panth -> IGCD. MZero gets to skate at that point but what can you do.

Ad hominem personal attack outside of mafia times 7 this game. It is kinda humorous how you are taking advantage of a weak host to blatantly break the rules over and over this game with no cares.

Just lol. And, yeah, everything is a direct response to what you said Mr-they-cant-roleblock-and-kill-2-scanners-at-night. Lol
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UltimaterializerX posted...

....it's a literal figure of speech.

It's like making fun of a guy for being on his period. You're a foreman. You've heard, and likely said, far worse.

Haha, of course I have heard worse. But, if the defense of breaking the rules repeatedly despite a literal warning for it already is, hey, you've heard worse... Then what's the point of the rules. It ain't hard to disagree without going places you shouldn't lol.

I can't for example call someone a racial slur here on GameFAQs then tell the moderator, I am sure you have heard worse. Come on. LMFAO.
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@Panthera

Wouldn't scum have thought Ulti was Doctor if Ulti and IGCD are town? Thoughts?
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wait wait wait

Isn't Strongman just a modifier for the normal kill? Not an extra kill?
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^nvm just reread the flip and it specified 1-use EK

disregard!
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Puns, what I'm getting from that chain of quotes you posted about Ulti and Tom is that it looks like Ulti picked a pretty irrelevant angle to attack Tom on and then cleared him for his equally pretty irrelevant answer. I don't remember the context of what was going on at the time so I might be missing your purpose in bringing it up.

Corrik7 posted...

Wouldn't scum have thought Ulti was Doctor if Ulti and IGCD are town? Thoughts?

Yes, quite likely. Unless they thought Ulti would have claimed it for real when IGCD claimed his track or were really sold on your faking doc routine day 2. Right so scum wouldn't be as sure that IGCD was faking it as I had been thinking.

Corrik7 posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

If Corrik doesn't flip Mafia Roleblocker (and the possibility of hitting that role today is why Corrik should be lynched ASAP

Literally just used a gladiator on Ulti and he said this.

Dying in laughter.

Gladiator Roleblocker who presumably doesn't block anyone night 1 so he can claim to be blocked despite being a day power. New meta confirmed?
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Anyone wanna end day or yinz still having fun?
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Did Ulti just try and claim Corrie is scum gladiator and role blocker at the same time? I mean I know this game has seemed unbalanced but nobody is that crazy.
Im not sure what you want from me activity wise here. D1 I suspected Sbell and Tom and through interactions with SBell I reread him as town. D2 I realised my read on death was wrong after the scare flip and once Tom was caught by death there wasnt much more to do. I suspected Ulti based on IGCD claim but hes since confirmed he lied so any reads based of that information are useless.
I was the one that didnt clear Tom after Pez changed his mind because it was so obvious that he simply changed style based on pezs read and I didnt buy him being town just because he tried to trap Corrik.
Corrik if you still think Im scum youre either a fool or your scum. Everybody else has realised Im town except you. I also seem to remember you being all up Ultis ass when you thought he had puns but once IGCD claimed you were like oh Ulti is scum. Even after IGCD confirmed he lied you stayed on ulti. Would you have still gladiatord him if IGCD had come out earlier?

5tarscream posted...

Did Ulti just try and claim Corrie is scum gladiator and role blocker at the same time? I mean I know this game has seemed unbalanced but nobody is that crazy.
Im not sure what you want from me activity wise here. D1 I suspected Sbell and Tom and through interactions with SBell I reread him as town. D2 I realised my read on death was wrong after the scare flip and once Tom was caught by death there wasnt much more to do. I suspected Ulti based on IGCD claim but hes since confirmed he lied so any reads based of that information are useless.
I was the one that didnt clear Tom after Pez changed his mind because it was so obvious that he simply changed style based on pezs read and I didnt buy him being town just because he tried to trap Corrik.
Corrik if you still think Im scum youre either a fool or your scum. Everybody else has realised Im town except you. I also seem to remember you being all up Ultis ass when you thought he had puns but once IGCD claimed you were like oh Ulti is scum. Even after IGCD confirmed he lied you stayed on ulti. Would you have still gladiatord him if IGCD had come out earlier?

Yes. I likely still would have used it on him. But, it would have been with more of an actual choice there. This was a no brainer beforehand.

And, yeah. I have you as my 4th likeliest scum person in the game after Ulti > Red > Puns.

Sorry if you are town and that offends you.
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And, Town shoulda been on Ulti's scan as legit until countered. Why wouldn't they have been?
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