Board 8 > Wwe mafia Topic 7- its an IRONMAN MATCH

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Corrik7 posted...

He didn't say initially Ulti was town if he DIDN'T go where tracked. And, Ulti and Red somehow town cleared each other from something that never existed. It was a weird leap.

The weirdness was admitted the whole time. The only thing the track claim did was make it highly unlikely for ulti to be scum(and made the tracker claim itself suspect).

UltimaterializerX posted...

Panthera posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik's most likely buddy is also throwing shade at Red and doesn't think Corrik can be scum when I flip town?

What are the odds of such a thing?

Corrik is 100% guaranteed town by your own statement that scum Gladiator is banned. I'm smart, I listen to Ulti.

Please cite where I say it's banned. It SHOULD be banned. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This game was clearly not balance checked.

Pretty sure this is wrong, and you did say that!

But, who cares. Not worth digging for.
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Leafeon13N posted...

Corrik7 posted...

He didn't say initially Ulti was town if he DIDN'T go where tracked. And, Ulti and Red somehow town cleared each other from something that never existed. It was a weird leap.

The weirdness was admitted the whole time. The only thing the track claim did was make it highly unlikely for ulti to be scum(and made the tracker claim itself suspect).

So, why is Ulti town. Tell us without debunked reasoning then. Gut isn't a good enough answer day 3 with 40% of the game dead.
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Like your logic doesn't add up and if it did, trust me people would be voting with you cuz they love to follow people whose rep exceeds their play. So, that tells you how far off your logic is.

To the point, that if town, I think you are trying to bait people to see who will fall into your ploy to try and support lynching me over Ulti.

You aren't this illogical. Except when mailing it in as scum, which is only a portion of your scum games.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

The only people you have gone after in this entire game are me, Death, and Red. Three town.

What are the odds?

I would say I've gone after Death, 5tar, Tom and you, in that order. Red I've mostly leaned town on until now when I'm realizing some of my assumptions were flawed.

UltimaterializerX posted...

You also have no idea what a counterclaim actually is but I'm saving that for after the game ends

"I claim Vanilla and also scanned Puns"
"I claim something that counters both those statements"
"NUH UH I CLAIMED VANILLA FIRST I COUNTER YOUUUUUU"

The only oddity is the use of "counter" when that's more often reserved for claiming the same role (ie countering a cop claim by claiming cop) but context makes that obvious and you used it the same way I did anyway. By your logic, first post claiming makes you immune to all counter claims.

UltimaterializerX posted...

You are firmly on the shit list.

Your disdain is a greater compliment than any praise.
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I can tell you one thing. If the scum team was eaed, Tom, panthera, and me. Han and red would both still be alive. Lol
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I am curious who they shot night 2. They didn't shoot death.

Means they shot either...

1. IGCD
2. Me
3. Red
4. Ulti

If Ulti is scum though, they know IGCD is lying. If Ulti is Town, they have to assume Ulti is Town power along with IGCD. Doctor if they strongmanned? Town Vig mis-shot? Scanner? Etc.

Or do they believe I am doctor or vig as take the shot at me. Who does pez save? I wish I really knew that. If Ulti flips scum, it might make red look better because then they shot me or red. Surely not IGCD who they knew was lying. (Unless they wanted to shoot IGCD to show he was lying to help clear Ulti.... Neglected that idea til now).
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The fact I think nowhere in the history of mafia would pez have saved Ulti night 2 means I consider it nearly zero % Ulti was shot at.
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Puns, do you think Panthera is scum who is "pocketing" me?
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Corrik7 posted...

Puns, do you think Panthera is scum who is "pocketing" me?

my current gut is that scum is either

A) [1 of ulti/corrik/red] + [1 of 5tar/panth]

or

B) 5tar/panth

UltimaterializerX posted...

I'm actually curious why Braun is a Gladiator at all. The command Corrik used was "I want you", which was never once said by Braun in his entire career. Braun's catch phrase is "I'm not finished with you", not "I want you".

It was however a Cody Rhodes catch phrase. Cody was a heel for almost his entire WWE run, he was in a faction with Randy Orton (confirmed scum flavor this game), and it's his current Uncle Sam type gimmick for recruiting guys to leave WWE. I would not be surprised if Corrik was some weird mafia usurper role. He is almost assuredly Cody Rhodes, not Braun Strowman.

So, you are back to Scum Gladiator or Scum Roleblocker or Scum Roleblocking Gladiator?

I mean, it is hard to even consider you town with all your asinine arguments. At this point if town, I would think you would be arguing we are both town and that you are the better choice to keep alive. You are arguing I am scum for a role that you said can't be scum with faulty logic, but that surely can't be with confirmed scum flips.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

I'm actually curious why Braun is a Gladiator at all. The command Corrik used was "I want you", which was never once said by Braun in his entire career. Braun's catch phrase is "I'm not finished with you", not "I want you".

It was however a Cody Rhodes catch phrase. Cody was a heel for almost his entire WWE run, he was in a faction with Randy Orton (confirmed scum flavor this game), and it's his current Uncle Sam type gimmick for recruiting guys to leave WWE. I would not be surprised if Corrik was some weird mafia usurper role. He is almost assuredly Cody Rhodes, not Braun Strowman.

O.o
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turbopuns3 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Puns, do you think Panthera is scum who is "pocketing" me?

my current gut is that scum is either

A) [1 of ulti/corrik/red] + [1 of 5tar/panth]

or

B) 5tar/panth

Your current gut is that 5/8ths of the game could be scum. With 2 scum left.

Yeah... Lol
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Corrik7 posted...

Puns, do you think Panthera is scum who is "pocketing" me?

Not directed at me but panth has basically been playing nice with everyone. No hard stance at anyone today.

Corrik7 posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Puns, do you think Panthera is scum who is "pocketing" me?

my current gut is that scum is either

A) [1 of ulti/corrik/red] + [1 of 5tar/panth]

or

B) 5tar/panth

Your current gut is that 5/8ths of the game could be scum. With 2 scum left.

Yeah... Lol

What?
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Am I supposed to have 6 confirmed town reads with 9 alive or something?

turbopuns3 posted...

Am I supposed to have 6 confirmed town reads with 9 alive or something?

Just not usually how gut works. Like, usually Han doesn't go... "Gut says 5 of these 12 people are scum out of the 18 in the game today"
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Usually it is more like. My PoE leaves these 5 left. My gut says it is these 2.

It was just a really weird post to not really limit anything down to where you are at or make it clear where you are.
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Corrik7 posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Am I supposed to have 6 confirmed town reads with 9 alive or something?

Just not usually how gut works. Like, usually Han doesn't go... "Gut says 5 of these 12 people are scum out of the 18 in the game today"

I don't think you are scum with ulti.

I don't think you are scum with red.

I don't think ulti is scum with red.

I don't think death is scum.

I don't think IGCD is scum.

I don't think MZero is scum.

There are only 2 people i would call "confirmed" town at this point.

Leafeon13N posted...

There are only 2 people i would call "confirmed" town at this point.

You and Ulti lololol
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I don't watch wrestling, so I don't know the answer to your question or what you want or whether you or telling the truth regarding the words.

I do think it is hilarious though that you think the host gave me a phrase to use that would signify I was scum that I had to insert into the game to use my power. Lol.

Like, that doesn't make sense. You are just making as many insane arguments as possible.
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To actually tier it:

Death and igcd are uncountered scanners. We should have 2 easily.

Ulti has fit in with my town picture of him perfectly and puns has put in a lot of effort at a point scum should seem demoralized. They ate both probably town.

Star is innocent puppy I'd be surprised if hes scum.

Mzero hasn't done anything but ride a claim and panth has tried to be everyones friend.

Corrik got twisty with me early and used gladiate at a time town shouldn't gladiate on someone that seemed highly town to me at the time.

Corrik before you nitpick that early wsd referring to this game day.

Interesting the people I think are most town are the most scummy to Red and vice versa.

But, Red does say as Scum he refuses to bus. If red is teammates with Ulti, you have to wonder at what point he would have cut the tie and realized he can't save Ulti. If red is scum, he still feels he can flip votes.

Death might not get a vote out before deadline if he don't come soon. Same with 5tar and Mzero I think.
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Scum with Ulti*
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Why should scum feel demoralized? This is the time to pick it up and win. They have all the scanners accounted for. No protection to worry about. If you say Ulti is town, they know a mislynch is coming.

Why would scum feel demoralized?
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gotta be honest, I ate one more slice of pizza than I should have and it's making me drowsy and Tom's iso is really boring

Lol what a re-read that turned out to be.


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I'm still doing it

oh look lol

Tom Bombadil posted...

also if braun's role is based on tagging in I hope there's a Nicholas in this game

(do not take this post seriously)

Corrik7 posted...

Why should scum feel demoralized?

Down 2, 1 mislynch. Not exactly great territory there.

And know all the scanners are out there?

Hard scanners, probably. Everything else still possibly a mystery. Definitely not comfortable.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik7 posted...

I don't watch wrestling

This is just a pure lie.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/wrestling_mafia/nwo-f2/

You said you love wrestling when I hosted my own wrestling mafia.

Lol. No I don't. And, no I didn't.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Interesting the people I think are most town are the most scummy to Red and vice versa.

But, Red does say as Scum he refuses to bus. If red is teammates with Ulti, you have to wonder at what point he would have cut the tie and realized he can't save Ulti. If red is scum, he still feels he can flip votes.

Death might not get a vote out before deadline if he don't come soon. Same with 5tar and Mzero I think.

Logic doesn't work because it will have mean he tried bussing the extra kill on the team day one.

He didn't bus anything. He just parked a vote and did nothing day 1.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

By the way, Corrik, this isnt even your fault. Sultan gave you a terrible custom command instead of gladiate like he was supposed to.

You tried this argument yesterday. Still just as silly lol.
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"corrik
Apr 21 '14#9
Chris isn't very good as Town. I say this almost every game I am scum to try and tell you guys to not shoot him. = / No one ever listens to me."

That's my bro. All these shoot the guys with the reps are El oh El. You give them this silly reps then shoot them early every game so you can never predispose the position you already took. Building the rep more.

And, it's not fun for them cuz they never get to play. Lol
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I am here now. Cant type too loudly tho.
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htaeD posted...

I am here now. Cant type too loudly tho.

You are gonna die tonight. Tell us everything you want us to know and put a vote down.
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I kinda already said most of what I wanted last night. Didnt have much free time today to add new thoughts

To recap
I worry this lynch is town vs town anyway, but I am still leaning towards voting Ulti.
I like Puns
5tar feels like town to me due to Toms attack on him
Mzero has done far too little and could be scum
Panth could also be scum technically, but I like him more than Mzero
I still cant read Red, but his defending of Ulti seems only strikes me as scummy if Ulti is scum.
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htaeD posted...

I kinda already said most of what I wanted last night. Didnt have much free time today to add new thoughts

To recap
I worry this lynch is town vs town anyway, but I am still leaning towards voting Ulti.
I like Puns
5tar feels like town to me due to Toms attack on him
Mzero has done far too little and could be scum
Panth could also be scum technically, but I like him more than Mzero
I still cant read Red, but his defending of Ulti seems only strikes me as scummy if Ulti is scum.

You don't think red would defend an ulti he knew was town via red himself being scum? Why not? Just ups his "town" points right? It isn't that red is defending Ulti, it is how he is defending him. I have asked repeatedly for him to point to specific things that make Ulti town. He has avoided it over and over. Just to say he is town. Ultis game resembles his scum games. Yet, red says this game is how he feels he would play as town.

That is not correct by standards. Ulti is more active as scum.
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