Board 8 > Wwe mafia Topic 5 suicide dive!

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik7 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

If youre not scum I am lording this game over you for life for being a such a fucking useless moron in EVERY single game you play with me.

Come on Ulti, this kind of behaviour is starting to get out of line. If you need to take a step back and take a breather. I know we all get a little emotionally invested but when you're starting to swear and name call it's going to far.

Host will take care of it. Just ignore it. He does this all the time as scum.

Yes that's what I hear. I dont feel he was this bad last game and my experiences with him are generally pleasant.

He plays nice for a few games after getting unbanned. Always reverts.
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What screenshots are you talking about, Ulti?
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UltimaterializerX posted...

5tarscream posted...

If IGCD is lying about tracking you whats his end game? If you think puns is town and IGCD is scum then youre saying scum outed the self with a fake claim to save another town?
If you think IGCD is scum then how can puns be town? Theres no reason for him to fake claim to save town from town.
A) Ulti is scum, IGCD is town.
B) Ulti is town, IG is scum, puns is town. This scenario makes the least sense.
C) Ulti is scum, IGCD is scum, puns is scum and by all three of them fighting they almost guarantee clearing suspicion on whoever survives.
D) Ulti is scum and knows Im town so protecting me is perfect cover for himself to get super pissed when I get lynched and flip town. This option makes me sad and angry.

Very small outside chance Puns is scum and they role scanned me or something, so he would know I was faking a scan. Not touching that one though.

If they role scanned you, they would know you're role so why would they claim a track on someone they know will flip Vanilla?
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Anyways jumping around reading/responding has me all jumbled up. I'm going back to Apex Legends and reading casually. If I come across anything I'll make a comment.
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IGCD did I miss an explanation as to why you tracked Ulti?
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UltimaterializerX posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

If youre not scum I am lording this game over you for life for being a such a fucking useless moron in EVERY single game you play with me.

Come on Ulti, this kind of behaviour is starting to get out of line. If you need to take a step back and take a breather. I know we all get a little emotionally invested but when you're starting to swear and name call it's going to far.

I have the screenshots ready. If Puns is not scum in this game, Im throwing those screenshots at him in every game he ever plays in from here on out.

Nobody cares. Also outside the game stuff yet again. And still. No one cares.

Like anyone would give a fuck if they were wrong in mafia once and you threw out screenshots of it lol. But you are scum anyways so who cares about your outlandish outside the game "threats".
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Corrik7 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik7 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

If youre not scum I am lording this game over you for life for being a such a fucking useless moron in EVERY single game you play with me.

Come on Ulti, this kind of behaviour is starting to get out of line. If you need to take a step back and take a breather. I know we all get a little emotionally invested but when you're starting to swear and name call it's going to far.

Host will take care of it. Just ignore it. He does this all the time as scum.

Yes that's what I hear. I dont feel he was this bad last game and my experiences with him are generally pleasant.

He plays nice for a few games after getting unbanned. Always reverts.

I know. And I want him not to do that.
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MZero11 posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

5tarscream posted...

If IGCD is lying about tracking you whats his end game? If you think puns is town and IGCD is scum then youre saying scum outed the self with a fake claim to save another town?
If you think IGCD is scum then how can puns be town? Theres no reason for him to fake claim to save town from town.
A) Ulti is scum, IGCD is town.
B) Ulti is town, IG is scum, puns is town. This scenario makes the least sense.
C) Ulti is scum, IGCD is scum, puns is scum and by all three of them fighting they almost guarantee clearing suspicion on whoever survives.
D) Ulti is scum and knows Im town so protecting me is perfect cover for himself to get super pissed when I get lynched and flip town. This option makes me sad and angry.

Very small outside chance Puns is scum and they role scanned me or something, so he would know I was faking a scan. Not touching that one though.

If they role scanned you, they would know you're role so why would they claim a track on someone they know will flip Vanilla?

Also, this. Why not let the town cop counter you. Lol. LMFAO.
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htaeD posted...

IGCD did I miss an explanation as to why you tracked Ulti?

Because I dont trust him.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik7 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik7 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

If youre not scum I am lording this game over you for life for being a such a fucking useless moron in EVERY single game you play with me.

Come on Ulti, this kind of behaviour is starting to get out of line. If you need to take a step back and take a breather. I know we all get a little emotionally invested but when you're starting to swear and name call it's going to far.

Host will take care of it. Just ignore it. He does this all the time as scum.

Yes that's what I hear. I dont feel he was this bad last game and my experiences with him are generally pleasant.

He plays nice for a few games after getting unbanned. Always reverts.

I have literally only ever gotten mad when scum tries to mislynch me. Its why your list of tells is bull and is getting to the screenshot pile.

This is 100% a lie. If I have to dumpster dive I will. I spent a whole day telling everyone who said u were town for getting hostile at your "mislynch" it was a scumtell and they lynched me instead of you to lose the game.
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Panthera posted...

I also want Tom and Pez to explain why they jumped onto the SBell lynch after he claimed protection.

I was already planning on voting him. A one use BG was not something I'd ever heard of. Felt like an easy claim to fake. All you have to do is claim you used N1 after barely surviving the lynch and you picked the wrong person.
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Ah.

Was that for any reason in particular?
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htaeD posted...

Ah.

Was that for any reason in particular?

It's either not really quantifiable or I just have trouble articulating it. Behaviours mostly.
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pezloco posted...

I was already planning on voting him. A one use BG was not something I'd ever heard of. Felt like an easy claim to fake. All you have to do is claim you used N1 after barely surviving the lynch and you picked the wrong person.

pezloco posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

pezloco posted...

@Tom_Bombadil thoughts? SBell, Red, or 5tar?

yes, I think

Might go back to sbell here

I prefer SBell I think too. I'd rather not lynch Red D1

This checks out
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So.

Ulti, Red, Eaed, Puns.

At most one is wrong in that.
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I know Sbell panicked, but claiming a 1 use BG as a 1 use BP was kinda really dumb tho lol.
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I can see scum leaving a townred alive in this instance, because he looked far worse here than he did in Endgame mafia's day1.

TownHan is an inievtable target anyway.
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Corrik7 posted...

I know Sbell panicked, but claiming a 1 use BG as a 1 use BP was kinda really dumb tho lol.

So, your brain does weird things. I saw he flipped town and that his role started with 1 use and a B. My brain filled the rest in as 1 use BG. It wasn't until the day actually started that I realized he had lied about his role.
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Panth I feel like Ive been over this with you and youre still not getting it. I called SBell town because I thought he was town. It wasnt a perspective slip it was a read. I explained this more than once why I thought he was town. You seem to be assuming I knew he was town because Im scum but I simply read him as town after our interactions. If I thought he was town then why would I address in any other way than as town?
Your theory is both wrong and weak and the sooner you wake up to this the better. Your wasting my time with the same stupid theory. How many times would you like me to explain it?

htaeD posted...

I can see scum leaving a townred alive in this instance, because he looked far worse here than he did in Endgame mafia's day1.

TownHan is an inievtable target anyway.

Roleblocking me over red also?
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pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

I know Sbell panicked, but claiming a 1 use BG as a 1 use BP was kinda really dumb tho lol.

So, your brain does weird things. I saw he flipped town and that his role started with 1 use and a B. My brain filled the rest in as 1 use BG. It wasn't until the day actually started that I realized he had lied about his role.

I actually did the same it wasnt until someone actually mentioned it that I went back and checked.

Like as BP you wanna draw the shot. He shoulda claimed Town Doctor and said he was gonna claim Town Vanilla earlier in the day when he asked if he should earlier but now he is really scared of being lynch so I am town doctor gtf off. Then activated his BP last night.

Like claiming BG as BP kinda ensured they would never shoot you lol
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Corrik7 posted...

So.

Ulti, Red, Eaed, Puns.

At most one is wrong in that.

If one is wrong who moves into your list?
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Corrik7 posted...

Like as BP you wanna draw the shot. He shoulda claimed Town Doctor and said he was gonna claim Town Vanilla earlier in the day when he asked if he should earlier but now he is really scared of being lynch so I am town doctor gtf off. Then activated his BP last night.

Like claiming BG as BP kinda ensured they would never shoot you lol

I thought of this. But if you claim Doc the Doc votes you and maybe outs himself. Claiming a soft 1 use protection maybe doesn't get the actual Doc to counter vote you.
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pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

So.

Ulti, Red, Eaed, Puns.

At most one is wrong in that.

If one is wrong who moves into your list?

I have hopefully a few days of more interaction to figure that out.

Death, IGCD, Mzero, and Panth are town.

Likely 5tar, but I would have to re-read a lot. That's just off the top of my head.

I wanna believe you are town. Tom, I am very slightly leaning town. I think his mindset was town for trying to call me out, but it could exist as scum.
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pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Like as BP you wanna draw the shot. He shoulda claimed Town Doctor and said he was gonna claim Town Vanilla earlier in the day when he asked if he should earlier but now he is really scared of being lynch so I am town doctor gtf off. Then activated his BP last night.

Like claiming BG as BP kinda ensured they would never shoot you lol

I thought of this. But if you claim Doc the Doc votes you and maybe outs himself. Claiming a soft 1 use protection maybe doesn't get the actual Doc to counter vote you.

Too late in the day and the doctor isn't gonna out you there when countering might not even be able to ensure your lynch that late.
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Corrik7 posted...

htaeD posted...

I can see scum leaving a townred alive in this instance, because he looked far worse here than he did in Endgame mafia's day1.

TownHan is an inievtable target anyway.

Roleblocking me over red also?

That makes less sense I admit.
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Even if I were to assume dayroles get told when they get blocked at night (and I assume you are a dayrole), why would scum do it?
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5tarscream posted...

Panth I feel like Ive been over this with you and youre still not getting it. I called SBell town because I thought he was town. It wasnt a perspective slip it was a read. I explained this more than once why I thought he was town. You seem to be assuming I knew he was town because Im scum but I simply read him as town after our interactions. If I thought he was town then why would I address in any other way than as town?
Your theory is both wrong and weak and the sooner you wake up to this the better. Your wasting my time with the same stupid theory. How many times would you like me to explain it?

You're doing the same thing here ("the sooner you wake up to this the better" doesn't make much sense unless said to town) and you said earlier you wanted to look into me today because you don't trust me for going after you. I'm not assuming you must be scum and slipped, I'm looking at your post and considering it likely, especially as I already leaned scum on you. Should I think it's just your natural way of speaking? Because that can be a thing sure but I can't simply assume it must be.

What do you think of Death now? You were pretty sold on him being scum at first, then backed off on that thought a bit. Where do you stand now?
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Corrik7 posted...

pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Like as BP you wanna draw the shot. He shoulda claimed Town Doctor and said he was gonna claim Town Vanilla earlier in the day when he asked if he should earlier but now he is really scared of being lynch so I am town doctor gtf off. Then activated his BP last night.

Like claiming BG as BP kinda ensured they would never shoot you lol

I thought of this. But if you claim Doc the Doc votes you and maybe outs himself. Claiming a soft 1 use protection maybe doesn't get the actual Doc to counter vote you.

Too late in the day and the doctor isn't gonna out you there when countering might not even be able to ensure your lynch that late.

I meant counter with a vote not counter with a claim. I can see a person thinking they need to make sure they claim a role that no one else has so they don't draw the deciding vote.
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If scum doesn't believe me, maybe they believe I got out of the way all day because I am town power.

And, maybe I am. Maybe I ain't. Who knows.

Why would they roleblock me at all if their roleblock says works on day powers so they believed me? Roleblocking me only makes sense if they think I am Town Doctor or a scanner.
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pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Like as BP you wanna draw the shot. He shoulda claimed Town Doctor and said he was gonna claim Town Vanilla earlier in the day when he asked if he should earlier but now he is really scared of being lynch so I am town doctor gtf off. Then activated his BP last night.

Like claiming BG as BP kinda ensured they would never shoot you lol

I thought of this. But if you claim Doc the Doc votes you and maybe outs himself. Claiming a soft 1 use protection maybe doesn't get the actual Doc to counter vote you.

Too late in the day and the doctor isn't gonna out you there when countering might not even be able to ensure your lynch that late.

I meant counter with a vote not counter with a claim. I can see a person thinking they need to make sure they claim a role that no one else has so they don't draw the deciding vote.

So, you might get one counter vote, but ain't no one in the fucking world lynching claimed doctor day 1. Thus, everyone else is gonna unvote. So, counter voting is just gonna leave one person on the lynch lol. And whatever inactives.
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Night1 is usually 'go crazy with the roleblocker' night.
Especially when they have an extra kill. We are all presuming scare got shot by a SK/Assassin, right?
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htaeD posted...

Night1 is usually 'go crazy with the roleblocker' night.
Especially when they have an extra kill. We are all presuming scare got shot by a SK/Assassin, right?

Nobody has claimed it as town. So, assume a EK. Def not a SK. SK only creeps in if another night 2.
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Used the wrong abbreviation.
Meant to say SM (strongman)
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htaeD posted...

Night1 is usually 'go crazy with the roleblocker' night.
Especially when they have an extra kill. We are all presuming scare got shot by a SK/Assassin, right?

It's most likely. Not the only explanation but the simplest.
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Also Lol at the idea of a town shooting Han or Scare
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I think I was wrong about death. He's town in my opinion, this is further highlighted by what you pointed out about me thinking Scare was scum based on death being scum. I was wrong about Scare I guess he was defending death because he had a better read on him than I did and suspected me because I was wrong. I'm talking to you as town because I believe your town. I'm not sure what point you're making Panth. Is there a neutral way to talk to people that I'm missing. If I think you're town I'll talk to you as town.
Panth, what are your thoughts on Mzero's inactivity especially at the end of the day. Do you believe his reasoning he gave when I asked him?

MZero's inactivity definitely bugs me, no vote on day 1 and the idea that he showed up to deadline but just didn't post because he didn't like any of the lynches is troubling. SBell, Red, Tom, Ulti, 5tar and Scare all had votes. That's a lot of people to not have at least one that you don't like, and with two power claims you'd think there would be incentive to at least like one of them and vote whoever else you like least to protect that one. I can kind of see not posting at deadline if you're only barely getting caught up (I nearly got b8 special'd for it once) but it's not a good look when you have also done very little all day besides claim Miller despite saying you wanted to be judged by your play, not just your claim.

As for the rest, sometimes people can get carried away when they know the person they're talking to is town. It's fine to have town reads but one of the ways you catch scum is noticing when people seem to have knowledge they could only have as scum. Your appeal to SBell (and Pez to a lesser extent) veered into the territory of seeming like you were more sure of his alignment than you realistically could have been as town.
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I mean there isn't much I can say about that if I'm honest. I spoke to them both as town because I believed that was their alignment.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Im half tempted to modkill myself just to prevent scum from even getting CLOSE to the satisfaction of a Town Ulti mislynch, but Ill behave.

So many screenshots getting saved though.

This behavior is unacceptable if anyone uses this threat again they will be modkilled and turned into the scum board Only warning
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topic 2: Eaed says

- Tom posts feel a little fluffy and I'm leaning scum too.

One page later, 5star says

Maybe Tom too because his style seems a little fluffy compared to what Id expect from him

Weird.
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So, I find this interesting because a common move by scum is to take a town person that has looked a little scummy or has simply had a lot of people call him scummy and then find a reason to declare him town. That reason generally doesn't have to have a lot of meat on the bone. But they can be confident of their read because they know who scum is.

If SBell flips town at some point in the future remember this.

Thanks for the reminder Pez.
(he was talking about 5tar btw)
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htaeD posted...

So, I find this interesting because a common move by scum is to take a town person that has looked a little scummy or has simply had a lot of people call him scummy and then find a reason to declare him town. That reason generally doesn't have to have a lot of meat on the bone. But they can be confident of their read because they know who scum is.

If SBell flips town at some point in the future remember this.

Thanks for the reminder Pez.
(he was talking about 5tar btw)

Was this back in topic 2?
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Aye.

Panthera also calls Tom fluffy twice...

weird.

(why am ISOing this word now, it must mean something!)
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pezloco posted...

htaeD posted...

So, I find this interesting because a common move by scum is to take a town person that has looked a little scummy or has simply had a lot of people call him scummy and then find a reason to declare him town. That reason generally doesn't have to have a lot of meat on the bone. But they can be confident of their read because they know who scum is.

If SBell flips town at some point in the future remember this.

Thanks for the reminder Pez.
(he was talking about 5tar btw)

Was this back in topic 2?

Also Panth (and SBell himself) has really been driving the be careful of 5tar if SBell flips town wagon. I don't remember the context of my post you quoted. But I don't think the thought originated with me. I might have highlighted a different reason than they did though.
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You were responding to 5tars posts. The whole 5tar slipping and calling sbell town thing.

SBell cant possibly be this obvious and scum. I actually think hes just playing poorly as town because hes trying too hard to make up for a bad game and hes being manipulated. Youre calling me out saying I havent done any scum hunting but all youve done is follow Scares lead.
What makes you think Pez and red are scum? If you think they are scum then why do you think Tom is null instead of town?
What do you think about Ulti trying to draw Corriks dayvig?

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I'm about to load up my kids for summer school. So last post for awhile. I still very much want to hear from Red and hear what Tom thinks after sleeping on it.

Death what do you think of Corrik? Any chance Ulti and Corrik are scum together and started off the day trying to dominate the game leaving one of them looking like obvious town after being at opposite sides of some blow up? I'm not expecting this, just asking.

What do you think of Puns? Was Ulti bussing? His "light bulb" is one you can make as scum or town as Corrik pointed out
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Votals
Ulti(3), (eaed) IGCD, Mzero, puns
Puns(1), (Ulti), Corrik
IGCD(1), Ulit
Tom (0), (Eaed), (Puns)
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