Current Events > I beat Metroid Prime

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86% at a finish time of 8:27

I thought I scanned everything! Pissed me off.
Great game though.

Onto Echoes!
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now beat Hard
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You're not done with any Metroid until you 100% it.

which version did you play (GCN or Wii)?
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HylianFox posted...

now beat Hard

The fuck

ocelot51 posted...

You're not done with any Metroid until you 100% it.

Trust me I was so disappointed

Giant_Aspirin posted...

which version did you play (GCN or Wii)?

I played the Wii version. (I have the trilogy)
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Hairy-man posted...

I thought I scanned everything! Pissed me off.

% is based on items, not scan
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Yeah ignore scans. Those are notoriously annoying to 100%, especially in MP1.

GCN version of Prime can be sequence-broken pretty hard.

I don't know how many changes or patches Echoes got in regards to GCN > Trilogy.
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I think Metroid is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills aleins and doesnt afraid of anything.
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but don't you unlock stuff by getting all the scans
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HylianFox posted...

but don't you unlock stuff by getting all the scans

Yes, you unlock some of the art gallery. Big whoop imo

Serious? I thought that scans had something to do with percentage.

Well, knowing that, I aint scanning shit in Echoes
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damn, scanning is my favorite part lmao.

but yeah, only pickups count towards completion percentage
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Did you save the animals?
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It's all downhill from here.
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Hairy-man posted...

Serious? I thought that scans had something to do with percentage.

Well, knowing that, I aint scanning shit in Echoes

You want to at least scan the Luminoth bodies though.
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Great game
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what took you so long to play a great game

There are some ice bats that charge at you and you only get one chance to scan them because they dont respawn. So most people at least miss that one on their first play through

iirc it's usually easy to tell the difference between important story scans / side story setting scans / enemy scans so you can kinda pick which ones you want to read. Some of the scans are kinda interesting so I wouldn't just blanket skip all of them
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Musourenka posted...

GCN version of Prime can be sequence-broken pretty hard.

I don't know how many changes or patches Echoes got in regards to GCN > Trilogy.

Probably quite a few since even later GCN copies fixed some of that.
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Fortunately, you can still 100% the game without starting over. You just missed some items. Find a guide online and grab the remaining items to get the 100% ending. Or be lame and watch it on Youtube.
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Hairy-man posted...

Serious? I thought that scans had something to do with percentage.

Well, knowing that, I aint scanning shit in Echoes

Good choice, Echoes has loads of missable scans. I'd only scan stuff that looks interesting.
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Dunsworthy posted...

There are some ice bats that charge at you and you only get one chance to scan them because they dont respawn. So most people at least miss that one on their first play through

they're supposed to respawn but don't because of a glitch
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oh yeah, for echoes, just make sure to get all of the lore (red) scans. they tell an exceptional story imo
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Echoes is definitely harder than Prime 1 so far
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Echoes is my favorite. I thought the story of Echoes is the best of the three. The story is complex without beating you over the head with a cutscene every few minutes.

The few cutscenes in the game are significant and add to the lore.
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Echoes is my favorite too. It's also legitimately hard. Some of the bosses are tough as hell.

Metroid Prime Echoes is the MegaMan 2 to Primes Mega Man 1.

Except Prime 1 was already a masterpiece.

Did you use a guide for all the Chozo artifacts? I did <_>
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ocelot51 posted...

You're not done with any Metroid until you 100% it.

In MP's case, I'm ok with just never being done. I will never look up all the secrets because then I won't want to replay it anymore. Plus, it's cool to outdo yourself on repeat playthroughs.
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AlisLandale posted...

Metroid Prime Echoes is the MegaMan 2 to Primes Mega Man 1.

Except Prime 1 was already a masterpiece.

Did you use a guide for all the Chozo artifacts? I did <_>

Nope. I used the hints they give you when you scan the pillars in the artifact temple.
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Echoes is amazing so far. Enjoying it even more than Prime and I thought Prime was fantastic
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Hairy-man posted...

Echoes is definitely harder than Prime 1 so far

I found it a lot easier tbh.

Harder to find stuff, if that's what you mean, but way easier to not die.

AlisLandale posted...

Metroid Prime Echoes is the MegaMan 2 to Primes Mega Man 1.

I hated Echoes. Half the game world is this nasty muddy shadowy crap, it didn't have interesting beams, it was hard to figure out and half the time I was tempted to just set the controller down and do something else for like an hour or whatever it is for Jarvis to finally tell me where to freaking go.
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I never actually beat it but I did enjoy it.
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DevsBro posted...

Harder to find stuff, if that's what you mean, but way easier to not die.

interesting. I found echoes to have harder bosses, harder forced encounters, more deadly generic enemies, and of course the existence of areas that cause constant passive damage

which parts of prime1 did you die a lot in?
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kirbymuncher posted...

DevsBro posted...

Harder to find stuff, if that's what you mean, but way easier to not die.

interesting. I found echoes to have harder bosses, harder forced encounters, more deadly generic enemies, and of course the existence of areas that cause constant passive damage

which parts of prime1 did you die a lot in?

It's not that I died a lot in Prime 1, but that I barely died at all in Prime 2.

Omega Pirate usually kills me a handful of times times, and of course the final boss, then a couple parts in the Phazon mines which are particularly long stretches between save points.

But in Prime 2, I died once in my first playthrough (before Dark Samus and final boss), and that was against Quadraxis, and was entirely because I couldn't figure out how to get on its head when it starts floating and it just slowly picked me off over the following 20 minutes or so that I spent raging at the head always flying away and raging even harder at the times when I would legitimately jump on it but Samus wouldn't stick like she's supposed to (turns out you're supposed to shoot it first to stun it).
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I just flat out don't believe that you didn't die to the Boost Ball Guardian.
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Drpooplol posted...

I just flat out don't believe that you didn't die to the Boost Ball Guardian.

*shrugs*

You're allowed to not believe it.
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DevsBro posted...

Drpooplol posted...

I just flat out don't believe that you didn't die to the Boost Ball Guardian.

*shrugs*

You're allowed to not believe it.

nah I do, I just remember dying to it so. many. times.
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Prime is a masterpiece and I was really surprised how well Metroid went from 3D platformer to FPS and still retain the staples that make Metroid great.

Echoes was good too. Although I could never beat Emperor Ing and I tried to do it a lot of times before I gave up. Ended up watching the end of Echoes from a YouTube video.
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according to TCRF Emperor Ing was supposed to have a segment where you shoot out its knees (?) but was cut from the final game (you can still see where the weak points are supposed to be, though)

https://tcrf.net/Metroid_Prime_2:_Echoes
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Drpooplol posted...

DevsBro posted...

Drpooplol posted...

I just flat out don't believe that you didn't die to the Boost Ball Guardian.

*shrugs*

You're allowed to not believe it.

nah I do, I just remember dying to it so. many. times.

Depends on which version. Boost Guardian was actually altered to be easier on the Trilogy version.
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Banjo2553 posted...

Drpooplol posted...

DevsBro posted...

Drpooplol posted...

I just flat out don't believe that you didn't die to the Boost Ball Guardian.

*shrugs*

You're allowed to not believe it.

nah I do, I just remember dying to it so. many. times.

Depends on which version. Boost Guardian was actually altered to be easier on the Trilogy version.

This was on Cube.

I mean, it was close but I pulled it off.
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Heard its good, havent played but I want to see new female protagonists so if I ever get the right console may good place
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DevsBro posted...

Banjo2553 posted...

Drpooplol posted...

DevsBro posted...

Drpooplol posted...

I just flat out don't believe that you didn't die to the Boost Ball Guardian.

*shrugs*

You're allowed to not believe it.

nah I do, I just remember dying to it so. many. times.

Depends on which version. Boost Guardian was actually altered to be easier on the Trilogy version.

This was on Cube.

I mean, it was close but I pulled it off.

Ah. Yeah, I had a bit of difficulty first time, but on subsequent playthroughs I figured it out.
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What's everyone's opinion on Prime 3? For me, not as good as the first two but not bad either.

ocelot51 posted...

What's everyone's opinion on Prime 3? For me, not as good as the first two but not bad either.

Same for me. Exploration feels like it took a slight backseat since the area design was made more linear. Still a lot to find but doesn't feel like an immersive experience, instead favoring something more "grand and epic" for a finale.
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Banjo2553 posted...

ocelot51 posted...

What's everyone's opinion on Prime 3? For me, not as good as the first two but not bad either.

Same for me. Exploration feels like it took a slight backseat since the area design was made more linear. Still a lot to find but doesn't feel like an immersive experience, instead favoring something more "grand and epic" for a finale.

I agree w this assessment. Im playing it again right now and it kinda feels like a big-budget action flick as opposed to a bonafide metroid game. big halo influence in 3.
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CookieMarvin posted...

big halo influence in 3.

I definitely felt this as well and I barely even played any halo

I honestly do not think 3 is a good game. I think it's worth playing just as the conclusion of the series but the combat and difficulty is laughable at nearly all points and the level design is completely unmemorable
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oh nooooo, I wouldnt say that. I think the GFS Valhalla is one of the most memorable moments in the trilogy. I also think bryyo is pretty rad. the other locations, outside of maybe phaaze, are all pretty lackluster though. they could have had something with elysia, but it ended up being generic steampunk trash, which is lamentable.

Theres no denying it falls quite a bit short of the first two, but there are a couple of parts that really shine. its ok in my book, but not much more.
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