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TheMikh 12/29/18 1:27:58 PM #102:	ThyCorndog posted... TheMikh posted... ThyCorndog posted... the best is when their only response to being called out for being closet conservatives is something along the lines of "haha sjws just wanna label everyone right of them as conservative" and then never actually give us any of their moderate policy positions that make them moderate a few years back when i still fell on the left-libertarian quadrant of the political compass, and a proponent of social justice within reason, someone on this very board called my black ass a nazi for suggesting that perhaps white folk were being a little unfairly demonized for social ills i spoke to several democrats whose opinions i held in high esteem about my concerns with our wars of regime change in libya and syria and their responses were identical to neocon justification for the war in iraq when moderates say their party left them behind, they are absolutely correct that's a weird take imo cause "moderates" want democrats to keep being neoliberals and not go further left. moderates seem to like neoliberals more than social democrats/etc there are both neoliberal and anti-neoliberal moderates you are correct in that a lot of neoliberals and neocons are "moderates" perhaps testament to the fact that the dimensions of mainstream american political ideology have grown far more complex than just democrats vs republicans, and those who lie at the intersection of both can still harbor extremist views on foreign policy and support tyranny of multinational corporations it's possible, however, to be a moderate without being such - i like to cite dan carlin as an example of a sensible moderate; tulsi gabbard is another --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:914877621] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>the best is when their only response to being called out for being closet conservatives is something along the lines of "haha sjws just wanna label everyone right of them as conservative" and then never actually give us any of their moderate policy positions that make them moderate</quote> a few years back when i still fell on the left-libertarian quadrant of the political compass, and a proponent of social justice within reason, someone on this very board called my black ass a nazi for suggesting that perhaps white folk were being a little unfairly demonized for social ills i spoke to several democrats whose opinions i held in high esteem about my concerns with our wars of regime change in libya and syria and their responses were identical to neocon justification for the war in iraq when moderates say their party left them behind, they are absolutely correct</quote> that's a weird take imo cause "moderates" want democrats to keep being neoliberals and not go further left. moderates seem to like neoliberals more than social democrats/etc</quote> there are both neoliberal and anti-neoliberal moderates you are correct in that a lot of neoliberals and neocons are "moderates" perhaps testament to the fact that the dimensions of mainstream american political ideology have grown far more complex than just democrats vs republicans, and those who lie at the intersection of both can still harbor extremist views on foreign policy and support tyranny of multinational corporations it's possible, however, to be a moderate without being such - i like to cite dan carlin as an example of a sensible moderate; tulsi gabbard is another</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Spiret 12/29/18 1:28:44 PM #103:	Axiom posted... They're really just conservatives that don't want to be identified as such so they claim to be "centrists" and "moderates". These same people hold a majority of opinions that are hard right a lot of the time its more that a lot of centrists tend to hold left leaning beliefs in my experience, but feel those beliefs have harder limits. immigration as an example, i know a lot of moderates who dont want a wall and feel it should be EASIER for people who want to become citizens to do so (none of this 10 year bullshit) while on the other hand severely limiting the incentives that people have for coming here illegally (getting insurance, taxing companies who hire illegals ect.). with that many centrists just hate the way the left now acts and dont want to be associated with them rather than if they disagree with their policies. the left has gone batshit with their level of complaining and blowing things out of proportion. trump could tie his shoelaces a different way and there will be 10 publications that will associate that to hitler or being oppressed in some way. <cite>Dark_Spiret posted [p:914877653] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>They're really just conservatives that don't want to be identified as such so they claim to be "centrists" and "moderates". These same people hold a majority of opinions that are hard right</quote>a lot of the time its more that a lot of centrists tend to hold left leaning beliefs in my experience, but feel those beliefs have harder limits. immigration as an example, i know a lot of moderates who dont want a wall and feel it should be EASIER for people who want to become citizens to do so (none of this 10 year bullshit) while on the other hand severely limiting the incentives that people have for coming here illegally (getting insurance, taxing companies who hire illegals ect.). with that many centrists just hate the way the left now acts and dont want to be associated with them rather than if they disagree with their policies. the left has gone batshit with their level of complaining and blowing things out of proportion. trump could tie his shoelaces a different way and there will be 10 publications that will associate that to hitler or being oppressed in some way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Favorite 12/29/18 1:29:22 PM #104:	TheMikh posted... tulsi gabbard is another She's an assad supporter. Thats not moderate in any way at all. <cite>Favorite posted [p:914877687] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote>tulsi gabbard is another </quote> She's an assad supporter. Thats not moderate in any way at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 12/29/18 1:29:29 PM #105:	HiddenLurker posted... Look at the number of pro-Trump topics or on news. Now look at all the anti-Trump topics or on the news. The difference is like how much Trump wants for the wall and how much Democrats are willing to give him. That is also why you hardly see any moderate dissing Trump. It is because the pro-Trump topics are essentially nomexistent. they gradually reduced since his election in 2016 because he's trash and it's hard to defend trash even if you voted for it. but being a Right winger doesn't automatically make you pro Trump in 2018. people conflating Right wing and Trump supporter is part of the divide. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:914877693] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>HiddenLurker posted...</cite> <quote>Look at the number of pro-Trump topics or on news. Now look at all the anti-Trump topics or on the news. The difference is like how much Trump wants for the wall and how much Democrats are willing to give him. That is also why you hardly see any moderate dissing Trump. It is because the pro-Trump topics are essentially nomexistent.</quote> they gradually reduced since his election in 2016 because he's trash and it's hard to defend trash even if you voted for it. but being a Right winger doesn't automatically make you pro Trump in 2018. people conflating Right wing and Trump supporter is part of the divide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 12/29/18 1:32:40 PM #106:	I would consider myself moderate/center, with left or right leanings depending on the issue. I feel, imo, that's the most reasonable way to be. I tend to butt heads more with left posters on here, tho. I have got into a few confrontations with hard rights on here, aswell. They usually are more troll like, and easy to shut down. They just say dumb/racist things, and then expect to be tolerated, as if it's comparable to non harmefully issues that are tolerable. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 50001 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:914877835] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote>I would consider myself moderate/center, with left or right leanings depending on the issue. I feel, imo, that's the most reasonable way to be. I tend to butt heads more with left posters on here, tho. I have got into a few confrontations with hard rights on here, aswell. They usually are more troll like, and easy to shut down. They just say dumb/racist things, and then expect to be tolerated, as if it's comparable to non harmefully issues that are tolerable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 12/29/18 1:35:36 PM #107:	Favorite posted... TheMikh posted... Favorite posted... TheMikh posted... Favorite posted... so if you think alt right are a good equivalent then there are a lot more nazis than commies in the us. including the president of the usa https://imgur.com/aqCX5nD I disagree with said chart doesn't mean it's wrong and doesnt mean its right either. trump is fairly white ethnonationalist. maybe not full david duke, but close enough considering hes the potus the hallmark of ethnonationalism is the support of racial segregation he's a hardline american nationalist, but he does not consider citizens of other ethnicities any less american, and he does not appear to advocate segregation also, being the only major politician to implicitly shed light on the ethnic cleansing of black neighborhoods in socal is far from a white nationalist thing to do also, white nationalists would be the last people to deport immigrants who were complicit in the actual german nazi party and holocaust back to where they came from - but guess what trump did --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:914877974] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>Favorite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Favorite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Favorite posted...</cite> <quote>so if you think alt right are a good equivalent then there are a lot more nazis than commies in the us. including the president of the usa</quote> https://imgur.com/aqCX5nD</quote> I disagree with said chart</quote> doesn't mean it's wrong</quote> and doesnt mean its right either. trump is fairly white ethnonationalist. maybe not full david duke, but close enough considering hes the potus</quote> the hallmark of ethnonationalism is the support of racial segregation he's a hardline american nationalist, but he does not consider citizens of other ethnicities any less american, and he does not appear to advocate segregation also, being the only major politician to implicitly shed light on the ethnic cleansing of black neighborhoods in socal is far from a white nationalist thing to do also, white nationalists would be the last people to deport immigrants who were complicit in the actual german nazi party and holocaust back to where they came from - but guess what trump did</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Favorite 12/29/18 1:37:58 PM #108:	TheMikh posted... he's a hardline american nationalist, but he does not consider citizens of other ethnicities any less american, and he does not appear to advocate segregation lol imagine actually thinking this. Dude is cutting legal immigration of all forms for a reason. He literally told a judge he can't do his job because he's Mexican. <cite>Favorite posted [p:914878079] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote>he's a hardline american nationalist, but he does not consider citizens of other ethnicities any less american, and he does not appear to advocate segregation </quote> lol imagine actually thinking this. Dude is cutting legal immigration of all forms for a reason. He literally told a judge he can't do his job because he's Mexican.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 12/29/18 1:38:15 PM #109:	TheMikh posted... Favorite posted... TheMikh posted... Favorite posted... TheMikh posted... Favorite posted... so if you think alt right are a good equivalent then there are a lot more nazis than commies in the us. including the president of the usa https://imgur.com/aqCX5nD I disagree with said chart doesn't mean it's wrong and doesnt mean its right either. trump is fairly white ethnonationalist. maybe not full david duke, but close enough considering hes the potus the hallmark of ethnonationalism is the support of racial segregation he's a hardline american nationalist, but he does not consider citizens of other ethnicities any less american, and he does not appear to advocate segregation also, being the only major politician to implicitly shed light on the ethnic cleansing of black neighborhoods in socal is far from a white nationalist thing to do also, white nationalists would be the last people to deport immigrants who were complicit in the actual german nazi party and holocaust back to where they came from - but guess what trump did wtf @ this whole post. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:914878089] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Favorite posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Favorite posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Favorite posted...</cite> <quote> so if you think alt right are a good equivalent then there are a lot more nazis than commies in the us. including the president of the usa </quote> https://imgur.com/aqCX5nD </quote> I disagree with said chart </quote> doesn't mean it's wrong </quote> and doesnt mean its right either. trump is fairly white ethnonationalist. maybe not full david duke, but close enough considering hes the potus</quote> the hallmark of ethnonationalism is the support of racial segregation he's a hardline american nationalist, but he does not consider citizens of other ethnicities any less american, and he does not appear to advocate segregation also, being the only major politician to implicitly shed light on the ethnic cleansing of black neighborhoods in socal is far from a white nationalist thing to do also, white nationalists would be the last people to deport immigrants who were complicit in the actual german nazi party and holocaust back to where they came from - but guess what trump did</quote> wtf @ this whole post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 12/29/18 1:39:25 PM #110:	Favorite posted... TheMikh posted... tulsi gabbard is another She's an assad supporter. Thats not moderate in any way at all. not to say he's not the latest in a dynasty of brutal strongmen but perhaps she just doesn't want to exacerbate the geopolitical power vacuums we've created in the middle east, give islamist extremists any more leverage, or tip the scale further in the saudi-iranian proxy war seeing as saudi arabia is the greater of the two evils also, assad seems to be pretty chill on the question of religious/ethnic tolerance compared to the alternatives just a thought --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:914878143] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>Favorite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote>tulsi gabbard is another </quote> She's an assad supporter. Thats not moderate in any way at all.</quote> not to say he's not the latest in a dynasty of brutal strongmen but perhaps she just doesn't want to exacerbate the geopolitical power vacuums we've created in the middle east, give islamist extremists any more leverage, or tip the scale further in the saudi-iranian proxy war seeing as saudi arabia is the greater of the two evils also, assad seems to be pretty chill on the question of religious/ethnic tolerance compared to the alternatives just a thought</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
codey 12/29/18 1:39:40 PM #111:	I vote nearly straight Democrat, and I feel like I'd get called a closet conservative around here for saying both the cashier and customer were in the wrong in the GameStop and vape shop videos. --- *runs out of topic naked* <cite>codey posted [p:914878156] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote>I vote nearly straight Democrat, and I feel like I'd get called a closet conservative around here for saying both the cashier and customer were in the wrong in the GameStop and vape shop videos.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 12/29/18 1:40:37 PM #112:	AutumnBlaze posted... Moderates are adults that know that to live life, one must compromise. They tend to bash more liberals because liberals are often much more annoying and out of touch with reality. This. Also, the fact that there are far more outspoken liberals on CE than outspoken conservatives might have something to do with it too... not much point preaching to the choir about the things you do agree with them on. --- https://imgtc.com/i/0mboxsZ.png <-- Tiamat is best babe, if you disagree you're objectively wrong. https://tinyurl.com/dtlamulana2 <-- La-Mulana 2 LP <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:914878196] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>AutumnBlaze posted...</cite> <quote>Moderates are adults that know that to live life, one must compromise. They tend to bash more liberals because liberals are often much more annoying and out of touch with reality.</quote> This. Also, the fact that there are far more outspoken liberals on CE than outspoken conservatives might have something to do with it too... not much point preaching to the choir about the things you do agree with them on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerfulSageIRL 12/29/18 1:41:16 PM #113:	TheMikh posted... PowerfulSageIRL posted... TheMikh posted... Favorite posted... TheMikh posted... Favorite posted... so if you think alt right are a good equivalent then there are a lot more nazis than commies in the us. including the president of the usa https://imgur.com/aqCX5nD I disagree with said chart doesn't mean it's wrong you are correct, it's not wrong because he disagrees with it. it is a bad chart no matter who disagrees with it you're both absolutely welcome to critique it, but it reflects patterns derived from both my observation and engagement with the right over the past several years to gauge what they actually believe along the two dimensions, in opposition to erecting strawmen Rogan is absolutely right-wing if there's so much overlap between "neoconservatism", "paleoconservatism", "typical conservatism", "trumpism", and "neolibertarianism", I don't see much point in differentiating between them the "alt-right" and "trumpism" boxes should not be completely separate what differentiates "ethnic pluralism" from "ethnic cleansing"? Pinochet was a fascist calling Pinochet and Mussolini "Trumpists" is a bit like calling Jesus a socialist, or Shakespeare a feminist right-wing ideologies are incompatible with populism since it they actively work against the better interests of the majority of people <cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted [p:914878230] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Favorite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Favorite posted...</cite> <quote>so if you think alt right are a good equivalent then there are a lot more nazis than commies in the us. including the president of the usa</quote> https://imgur.com/aqCX5nD</quote> I disagree with said chart</quote> doesn't mean it's wrong</quote> you are correct, it's not wrong because he disagrees with it. it is a bad chart no matter who disagrees with it</quote> you're both absolutely welcome to critique it, but it reflects patterns derived from both my observation and engagement with the right over the past several years to gauge what they actually believe along the two dimensions, in opposition to erecting strawmen</quote> Rogan is absolutely right-wing if there's so much overlap between "neoconservatism", "paleoconservatism", "typical conservatism", "trumpism", and "neolibertarianism", I don't see much point in differentiating between them the "alt-right" and "trumpism" boxes should not be completely separate what differentiates "ethnic pluralism" from "ethnic cleansing"? Pinochet was a fascist calling Pinochet and Mussolini "Trumpists" is a bit like calling Jesus a socialist, or Shakespeare a feminist right-wing ideologies are incompatible with populism since it they actively work against the better interests of the majority of people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 12/29/18 1:43:05 PM #114:	Favorite posted... TheMikh posted... he's a hardline american nationalist, but he does not consider citizens of other ethnicities any less american, and he does not appear to advocate segregation lol imagine actually thinking this. Dude is cutting legal immigration of all forms for a reason. He literally told a judge he can't do his job because he's Mexican. honestly there's a powerful case to be made that the tremendous amount of economic and social gains regardless of race between the 1920s and 1960s was precisely because immigration - then primarily from europe - was closed so significantly, allowing for the melting pot to do its job and wages could rise proportional to real productivity gains in the economy --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:914878317] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>Favorite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote>he's a hardline american nationalist, but he does not consider citizens of other ethnicities any less american, and he does not appear to advocate segregation </quote> lol imagine actually thinking this. Dude is cutting legal immigration of all forms for a reason. He literally told a judge he can't do his job because he's Mexican.</quote> honestly there's a powerful case to be made that the tremendous amount of economic and social gains regardless of race between the 1920s and 1960s was precisely because immigration - then primarily from europe - was closed so significantly, allowing for the melting pot to do its job and wages could rise proportional to real productivity gains in the economy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Favorite 12/29/18 1:45:12 PM #115:	TheMikh posted... Favorite posted... TheMikh posted... he's a hardline american nationalist, but he does not consider citizens of other ethnicities any less american, and he does not appear to advocate segregation lol imagine actually thinking this. Dude is cutting legal immigration of all forms for a reason. He literally told a judge he can't do his job because he's Mexican. honestly there's a powerful case to be made that the tremendous amount of economic and social gains regardless of race between the 1920s and 1960s was precisely because immigration - then primarily from europe - was closed so significantly, allowing for the melting pot to do its job and wages could rise proportional to real productivity gains in the economy do you have an nber source or something? because economists are generally very pro immigration. not that it matters. you seem to be indenial about trump. <cite>Favorite posted [p:914878406] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Favorite posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote>he's a hardline american nationalist, but he does not consider citizens of other ethnicities any less american, and he does not appear to advocate segregation </quote> lol imagine actually thinking this. Dude is cutting legal immigration of all forms for a reason. He literally told a judge he can't do his job because he's Mexican.</quote> honestly there's a powerful case to be made that the tremendous amount of economic and social gains regardless of race between the 1920s and 1960s was precisely because immigration - then primarily from europe - was closed so significantly, allowing for the melting pot to do its job and wages could rise proportional to real productivity gains in the economy</quote> do you have an nber source or something? because economists are generally very pro immigration. not that it matters. you seem to be indenial about trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/29/18 1:47:04 PM #116:	codey posted... I vote nearly straight Democrat, and I feel like I'd get called a closet conservative around here for saying both the cashier and customer were in the wrong in the GameStop and vape shop videos. maybe by a few people but not in general. the "moderates" in question hold almost no liberal views if any. I agree with you that everyone acted poorly in those videos and I would never consider myself moderate. just cause I don't agree with every single individual on the left doesn't mean I'm not on the left --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:914878486] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>codey posted...</cite> <quote>I vote nearly straight Democrat, and I feel like I'd get called a closet conservative around here for saying both the cashier and customer were in the wrong in the GameStop and vape shop videos.</quote> maybe by a few people but not in general. the "moderates" in question hold almost no liberal views if any. I agree with you that everyone acted poorly in those videos and I would never consider myself moderate. just cause I don't agree with every single individual on the left doesn't mean I'm not on the left</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CasualGuy 12/29/18 1:48:35 PM #117:	ThyCorndog posted... maybe by a few people but not in general. the "moderates" in question hold almost no liberal views if any. So is this whole topic about like....5 people? Or what? --- https://imgur.com/MoE9O68 <cite>CasualGuy posted [p:914878543] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>maybe by a few people but not in general. the "moderates" in question hold almost no liberal views if any.</quote> So is this whole topic about like....5 people? Or what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/29/18 1:49:08 PM #118:	CasualGuy posted... ThyCorndog posted... maybe by a few people but not in general. the "moderates" in question hold almost no liberal views if any. So is this whole topic about like....5 people? Or what? 90% of moderates. so more than 5 people unless theres only like 6 moderates --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:914878560] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>CasualGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>maybe by a few people but not in general. the "moderates" in question hold almost no liberal views if any.</quote> So is this whole topic about like....5 people? Or what?</quote> 90% of moderates. so more than 5 people unless theres only like 6 moderates</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 12/29/18 1:50:12 PM #119:	CasualGuy posted... ThyCorndog posted... maybe by a few people but not in general. the "moderates" in question hold almost no liberal views if any. So is this whole topic about like....5 people? Or what? No, it's just another attempt at pulling the "if you aren't 100% with us, you're 100% against us" card. --- https://imgtc.com/i/0mboxsZ.png <-- Tiamat is best babe, if you disagree you're objectively wrong. https://tinyurl.com/dtlamulana2 <-- La-Mulana 2 LP <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:914878616] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>CasualGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>maybe by a few people but not in general. the "moderates" in question hold almost no liberal views if any.</quote> So is this whole topic about like....5 people? Or what?</quote> No, it's just another attempt at pulling the "if you aren't 100% with us, you're 100% against us" card.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 12/29/18 1:50:27 PM #120:	Vyrulisse posted... ThyCorndog posted... what's the difference between one of these so called moderates and a conservative who doesnt 100% agree with the republican party What's the difference between one of these so called moderates and a liberal who doesn't 100% agree with the Democratic party A liberal who doesnt 100% agree with the DNC is a secret nazi. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/261-politics/76648194 <Shill tactics listed! <cite>bulbinking posted [p:914878623] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>what's the difference between one of these so called moderates and a conservative who doesnt 100% agree with the republican party</quote> What's the difference between one of these so called moderates and a liberal who doesn't 100% agree with the Democratic party</quote> A liberal who doesnt 100% agree with the DNC is a secret nazi.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/29/18 1:50:30 PM #121:	for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:914878629] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote>for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/29/18 1:50:41 PM #122:	Another moderate/centrist hate topic on CE I am so shocked --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914878634] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote>Another moderate/centrist hate topic on CE I am so shocked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/29/18 1:51:00 PM #123:	DarkTransient posted... CasualGuy posted... ThyCorndog posted... maybe by a few people but not in general. the "moderates" in question hold almost no liberal views if any. So is this whole topic about like....5 people? Or what? No, it's just another attempt at pulling the "if you aren't 100% with us, you're 100% against us" card. I'm literally the last person to do that cause I don't fall in 100% with liberals. keep up --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:914878645] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CasualGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>maybe by a few people but not in general. the "moderates" in question hold almost no liberal views if any.</quote> So is this whole topic about like....5 people? Or what?</quote> No, it's just another attempt at pulling the "if you aren't 100% with us, you're 100% against us" card.</quote> I'm literally the last person to do that cause I don't fall in 100% with liberals. keep up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardPowers 12/29/18 1:51:24 PM #124:	ThyCorndog posted... for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view How many dissenting views do you arbitrarily need to be a moderate? --- https://imgur.com/FS3aeNW https://imgur.com/Hy9IDHK <cite>WizardPowers posted [p:914878657] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view</quote> How many dissenting views do you arbitrarily need to be a moderate?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/29/18 1:51:31 PM #125:	bulbinking posted... Vyrulisse posted... ThyCorndog posted... what's the difference between one of these so called moderates and a conservative who doesnt 100% agree with the republican party What's the difference between one of these so called moderates and a liberal who doesn't 100% agree with the Democratic party A liberal who doesnt 100% agree with the DNC is a secret nazi. source? I despise the DNC but I'm a firm leftist --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:914878660] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>bulbinking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>what's the difference between one of these so called moderates and a conservative who doesnt 100% agree with the republican party</quote> What's the difference between one of these so called moderates and a liberal who doesn't 100% agree with the Democratic party</quote> A liberal who doesnt 100% agree with the DNC is a secret nazi.</quote> source? I despise the DNC but I'm a firm leftist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 12/29/18 1:51:38 PM #126:	ThyCorndog posted... for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view According to plenty of CEmen, agreeing with two or three conservative views while thinking along the same lines as moderate liberals on most other matters makes you a "closeted alt-right nazi". --- https://imgtc.com/i/0mboxsZ.png <-- Tiamat is best babe, if you disagree you're objectively wrong. https://tinyurl.com/dtlamulana2 <-- La-Mulana 2 LP <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:914878666] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view</quote> According to plenty of CEmen, agreeing with two or three conservative views while thinking along the same lines as moderate liberals on most other matters makes you a "closeted alt-right nazi".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/29/18 1:53:26 PM #127:	WizardPowers posted... ThyCorndog posted... for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view How many dissenting views do you arbitrarily need to be a moderate? at least close to an even split, or even 1/3rd of the way if you can manage it, if you really want me to assign a made up amount. but in reality they all hold maybe 1 or 2 liberal views maximum and the rest are conservative. at that point I don't know why you'd call yourself moderate unless you just don't want the stigma of being called a conservative --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:914878752] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>WizardPowers posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view</quote> How many dissenting views do you arbitrarily need to be a moderate?</quote> at least close to an even split, or even 1/3rd of the way if you can manage it, if you really want me to assign a made up amount. but in reality they all hold maybe 1 or 2 liberal views maximum and the rest are conservative. at that point I don't know why you'd call yourself moderate unless you just don't want the stigma of being called a conservative</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 12/29/18 1:53:48 PM #128:	There are moderates, and then there are "moderates". The former, tries to be sensible. The latter is typically, blatantly insincere from the very start. So are people who pretend the latter is how moderates actually think. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s <cite>Umbreon posted [p:914878764] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote>There are moderates, and then there are "moderates". The former, tries to be sensible. The latter is typically, blatantly insincere from the very start. So are people who pretend the latter is how moderates actually think.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenLurker 12/29/18 1:54:36 PM #129:	Damn_Underscore posted... Another moderate/centrist hate topic on CE I am so shocked You should see the politics board sometimes. If you are a centralist you are a Nazi according to that board. --- [Insert tired meme here] <cite>HiddenLurker posted [p:914878793] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Another moderate/centrist hate topic on CE I am so shocked</quote> You should see the politics board sometimes. If you are a centralist you are a Nazi according to that board.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/29/18 1:54:47 PM #130:	DarkTransient posted... ThyCorndog posted... for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view According to plenty of CEmen, agreeing with two or three conservative views while thinking along the same lines as moderate liberals on most other matters makes you a "closeted alt-right nazi". this is an exaggeration and you know it. I have "2 or 3 conservative views" and the rest are liberal/leftist. that makes me liberal/leftist --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:914878800] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view</quote> According to plenty of CEmen, agreeing with two or three conservative views while thinking along the same lines as moderate liberals on most other matters makes you a "closeted alt-right nazi".</quote> this is an exaggeration and you know it. I have "2 or 3 conservative views" and the rest are liberal/leftist. that makes me liberal/leftist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 12/29/18 1:55:55 PM #132:	ThyCorndog posted... DarkTransient posted... ThyCorndog posted... for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view According to plenty of CEmen, agreeing with two or three conservative views while thinking along the same lines as moderate liberals on most other matters makes you a "closeted alt-right nazi". this is an exaggeration and you know it. I have "2 or 3 conservative views" and the rest are liberal/leftist. that makes me liberal/leftist Why do you care so much? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914878858] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view</quote> According to plenty of CEmen, agreeing with two or three conservative views while thinking along the same lines as moderate liberals on most other matters makes you a "closeted alt-right nazi".</quote> this is an exaggeration and you know it. I have "2 or 3 conservative views" and the rest are liberal/leftist. that makes me liberal/leftist</quote> Why do you care so much?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/29/18 1:56:29 PM #133:	Captain_Qwark posted... You guys have really fucking stupid views on politics and political discourse. enlighten the class please, captain qwark --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:914878884] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>Captain_Qwark posted...</cite> <quote>You guys have really fucking stupid views on politics and political discourse.</quote> enlighten the class please, captain qwark</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/29/18 1:56:56 PM #134:	Damn_Underscore posted... ThyCorndog posted... DarkTransient posted... ThyCorndog posted... for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view According to plenty of CEmen, agreeing with two or three conservative views while thinking along the same lines as moderate liberals on most other matters makes you a "closeted alt-right nazi". this is an exaggeration and you know it. I have "2 or 3 conservative views" and the rest are liberal/leftist. that makes me liberal/leftist Why do you care so much? why are you posting if you dont --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:914878907] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view</quote> According to plenty of CEmen, agreeing with two or three conservative views while thinking along the same lines as moderate liberals on most other matters makes you a "closeted alt-right nazi".</quote> this is an exaggeration and you know it. I have "2 or 3 conservative views" and the rest are liberal/leftist. that makes me liberal/leftist</quote> Why do you care so much?</quote> why are you posting if you dont</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeantownHero 12/29/18 1:57:02 PM #135:	Moderates, in my experience, tend to be conservatives who like weed. --- nothing is a greater tell of an awful human than using "social justice warrior" as a pejorative. without exception.- Bomani Jones <cite>BeantownHero posted [p:914878910] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote>Moderates, in my experience, tend to be conservatives who like weed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 12/29/18 1:58:39 PM #136:	So I'm curious TC. Does someone have to literally fall dead center in their views for you to consider them true moderates? What's the magical number between that and someone in denial? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTEX3YdEi7s <cite>Umbreon posted [p:914878972] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote>So I'm curious TC. Does someone have to literally fall dead center in their views for you to consider them true moderates? What's the magical number between that and someone in denial?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/29/18 1:59:18 PM #137:	ThyCorndog posted... Damn_Underscore posted... ThyCorndog posted... DarkTransient posted... ThyCorndog posted... for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view According to plenty of CEmen, agreeing with two or three conservative views while thinking along the same lines as moderate liberals on most other matters makes you a "closeted alt-right nazi". this is an exaggeration and you know it. I have "2 or 3 conservative views" and the rest are liberal/leftist. that makes me liberal/leftist Why do you care so much? why are you posting if you dont Well for a lot of people if you aren't a "good enough" lefty or righty, you're a traitor/nazi/communist/whatever Maybe the people with extreme views shouldn't be running the discourse. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:914879002] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view</quote> According to plenty of CEmen, agreeing with two or three conservative views while thinking along the same lines as moderate liberals on most other matters makes you a "closeted alt-right nazi".</quote> this is an exaggeration and you know it. I have "2 or 3 conservative views" and the rest are liberal/leftist. that makes me liberal/leftist</quote> Why do you care so much?</quote> why are you posting if you dont</quote> Well for a lot of people if you aren't a "good enough" lefty or righty, you're a traitor/nazi/communist/whatever Maybe the people with extreme views shouldn't be running the discourse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/29/18 2:00:38 PM #138:	Umbreon posted... So I'm curious TC. Does someone have to literally fall dead center in their views for you to consider them true moderates? What's the magical number between that and someone in denial? somewhere within a reasonable standard deviation of the mean of the gaussian distribution and not on or near the tail ends --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:914879058] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>Umbreon posted...</cite> <quote>So I'm curious TC. Does someone have to literally fall dead center in their views for you to consider them true moderates? What's the magical number between that and someone in denial?</quote> somewhere within a reasonable standard deviation of the mean of the gaussian distribution and not on or near the tail ends</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/29/18 2:02:13 PM #139:	Damn_Underscore posted... ThyCorndog posted... Damn_Underscore posted... ThyCorndog posted... DarkTransient posted... ThyCorndog posted... for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view According to plenty of CEmen, agreeing with two or three conservative views while thinking along the same lines as moderate liberals on most other matters makes you a "closeted alt-right nazi". this is an exaggeration and you know it. I have "2 or 3 conservative views" and the rest are liberal/leftist. that makes me liberal/leftist Why do you care so much? why are you posting if you dont Well for a lot of people if you aren't a "good enough" lefty or righty, you're a traitor/nazi/communist/whatever Maybe the people with extreme views shouldn't be running the discourse. honestly the only people I see saying that if you don't 100% fall into one particular side makes you a nazi/traitor/blahblah are the self proclaimed moderates themselves It seems like an excuse. I dont 100% fall in line with liberals and I dont get called a nazi --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:914879121] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>for example: thinking weed should be legalized but otherwise falling in line with conservatives does not make you a moderate (or even a libertarian) it makes you a conservative with one dissenting view</quote> According to plenty of CEmen, agreeing with two or three conservative views while thinking along the same lines as moderate liberals on most other matters makes you a "closeted alt-right nazi".</quote> this is an exaggeration and you know it. I have "2 or 3 conservative views" and the rest are liberal/leftist. that makes me liberal/leftist</quote> Why do you care so much?</quote> why are you posting if you dont</quote> Well for a lot of people if you aren't a "good enough" lefty or righty, you're a traitor/nazi/communist/whatever Maybe the people with extreme views shouldn't be running the discourse.</quote> honestly the only people I see saying that if you don't 100% fall into one particular side makes you a nazi/traitor/blahblah are the self proclaimed moderates themselves It seems like an excuse. I dont 100% fall in line with liberals and I dont get called a nazi</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 12/29/18 2:03:03 PM #140:	because in america, lashing out violently causes fear, but not disgust. we respect the man who cries in public less than the man who shoots the public. right-wing terrorism has killed far more americans in the last decade than left-wing terrorism. those on the left tend to make spectacles of themselves in ways we do not respect. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:914879162] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote>because in america, lashing out violently causes fear, but not disgust. we respect the man who cries in public less than the man who shoots the public. right-wing terrorism has killed far more americans in the last decade than left-wing terrorism. those on the left tend to make spectacles of themselves in ways we do not respect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 12/29/18 2:04:13 PM #141:	Siaperaz posted... REEEEEEEeeee --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:914879218] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>Siaperaz posted...</cite> <quote>REEEEEEEeeee</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/29/18 2:06:18 PM #142:	Darkman124 posted... because in america, lashing out violently causes fear, but not disgust. we respect the man who cries in public less than the man who shoots the public. right-wing terrorism has killed far more americans in the last decade than left-wing terrorism. those on the left tend to make spectacles of themselves in ways we do not respect. that's a grim view of it. I didn't consider that angle. I like it --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:914879305] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>because in america, lashing out violently causes fear, but not disgust. we respect the man who cries in public less than the man who shoots the public. right-wing terrorism has killed far more americans in the last decade than left-wing terrorism. those on the left tend to make spectacles of themselves in ways we do not respect.</quote> that's a grim view of it. I didn't consider that angle. I like it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 12/29/18 2:06:39 PM #143:	TheMikh posted... CrimsonRage posted... my "favourite" moderate post: >topic about some recent alt-right/nazis doing crap "nazis suck but communists are bad too! >topic about some antifa/communists doing crap "man commies suck!" (no mention of nazis) there are far more communists than nazis in this country when nazis rallied in significant numbers and created trouble in '17, the next right-ish rally that was so little as misidentified as a nazi rally by the media had a counter-protest numbering in the tens of thousands so it goes without saying that nobody likes nazis, and everyone is prepared to stamp them out at the drop of a hat - and rightfully so but we're far too comfortable as a society with the prevalence of open communists, and the pervasiveness of communistic talking points in mainstream political discourse - they're not racist like nazis, but they're just as deadly when in power mind you, we're probably not going to see a bolshevik-style revolution, but the creep of growing state power/reach and growing executive authority in conjunction with the leftward shift of the overton window should be just a little bit alarming Just because youre against Nazis, doesnt mean youre a communist. Is this a Proudclod alt? --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:914879326] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>my "favourite" moderate post: >topic about some recent alt-right/nazis doing crap "nazis suck but communists are bad too! >topic about some antifa/communists doing crap "man commies suck!" (no mention of nazis)</quote> there are far more communists than nazis in this country when nazis rallied in significant numbers and created trouble in '17, the next right-ish rally that was so little as misidentified as a nazi rally by the media had a counter-protest numbering in the tens of thousands so it goes without saying that nobody likes nazis, and everyone is prepared to stamp them out at the drop of a hat - and rightfully so but we're far too comfortable as a society with the prevalence of open communists, and the pervasiveness of communistic talking points in mainstream political discourse - they're not racist like nazis, but they're just as deadly when in power mind you, we're probably not going to see a bolshevik-style revolution, but the creep of growing state power/reach and growing executive authority in conjunction with the leftward shift of the overton window should be just a little bit alarming</quote> Just because youre against Nazis, doesnt mean youre a communist. Is this a Proudclod alt?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Squirtle_ 12/29/18 2:07:23 PM #144:	Why would 3 alternate views not make you a moderate? What topics are you all counting as major ones? Weed, guns, gay rights, abortion, immigration, healthcare, foreign policy. If you have dissenting views on 3 of those, why wouldn't it make you a moderate? --- https://imgur.com/nkfrakV <cite>_Squirtle_ posted [p:914879352] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote>Why would 3 alternate views not make you a moderate? What topics are you all counting as major ones? Weed, guns, gay rights, abortion, immigration, healthcare, foreign policy. If you have dissenting views on 3 of those, why wouldn't it make you a moderate?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 12/29/18 2:07:54 PM #145:	PowerfulSageIRL posted... Rogan is absolutely right-wing his advocacy of allowing immigrants from mexico on moral grounds speaks volumes if there's so much overlap between "neoconservatism", "paleoconservatism", "typical conservatism", "trumpism", and "neolibertarianism", I don't see much point in differentiating between them it's an important starting point if you want to understand why they're at odds with each other - why neocons hate paleocons and vice versa, why paleocons lost their **** when trump bombed syria, why the gop hates trump and trump supporters hate the gop establishment, and why some people have the nerve to call themselves "libertarians" while also supporting bombing foreign countries there's a great deal of differentiation on organic citizenship and the role of government, even if the views of those claiming to be of one camp or another have overlaps here or there hanson, for instance, is a democrat with paleocon social/political views and neocon foreign policy views the "alt-right" and "trumpism" boxes should not be completely separate there was a major realignment in the self-proclaimed alt-right after the election, and anyone who did not support ethnopluralism (see: people who did not support racial nationalism) abandoned the label, while the racial nationalists ditched trump as it became increasingly apparent he was not one of them what differentiates "ethnic pluralism" from "ethnic cleansing"? segregation vs genocide Pinochet was a fascist and he's on that dimension calling Pinochet and Mussolini "Trumpists" is a bit like calling Jesus a socialist, or Shakespeare a feminist some trump supporters are fascists, and pinochet and mussolini were not racial fascists, though mussolini was a cultural fascist i'm not saying they're trumpists, but rather there's an overlap in that some trump supporters are civic or cultural fascists jesus was very much a socialist, albeit of the anarcho-pacifistic variety, and shakespeare was very much a feminist, albeit not in the sense it's used today right-wing ideologies are incompatible with populism since it they actively work against the better interests of the majority of people the long-term game of populist ideologies is to build consensus among common folk - rather than politicians - towards a popular coalition in support of their views, even if their views do not reflect the present popular interests --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:914879382] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted...</cite> <quote>Rogan is absolutely right-wing</quote> his advocacy of allowing immigrants from mexico on moral grounds speaks volumes <quote>if there's so much overlap between "neoconservatism", "paleoconservatism", "typical conservatism", "trumpism", and "neolibertarianism", I don't see much point in differentiating between them</quote> it's an important starting point if you want to understand why they're at odds with each other - why neocons hate paleocons and vice versa, why paleocons lost their **** when trump bombed syria, why the gop hates trump and trump supporters hate the gop establishment, and why some people have the nerve to call themselves "libertarians" while also supporting bombing foreign countries there's a great deal of differentiation on organic citizenship and the role of government, even if the views of those claiming to be of one camp or another have overlaps here or there hanson, for instance, is a democrat with paleocon social/political views and neocon foreign policy views <quote>the "alt-right" and "trumpism" boxes should not be completely separate</quote> there was a major realignment in the self-proclaimed alt-right after the election, and anyone who did not support ethnopluralism (see: people who did not support racial nationalism) abandoned the label, while the racial nationalists ditched trump as it became increasingly apparent he was not one of them <quote>what differentiates "ethnic pluralism" from "ethnic cleansing"?</quote> segregation vs genocide <quote>Pinochet was a fascist</quote> and he's on that dimension <quote>calling Pinochet and Mussolini "Trumpists" is a bit like calling Jesus a socialist, or Shakespeare a feminist</quote> some trump supporters are fascists, and pinochet and mussolini were not racial fascists, though mussolini was a cultural fascist i'm not saying they're trumpists, but rather there's an overlap in that some trump supporters are civic or cultural fascists jesus was very much a socialist, albeit of the anarcho-pacifistic variety, and shakespeare was very much a feminist, albeit not in the sense it's used today <quote>right-wing ideologies are incompatible with populism since it they actively work against the better interests of the majority of people</quote> the long-term game of populist ideologies is to build consensus among common folk - rather than politicians - towards a popular coalition in support of their views, even if their views do not reflect the present popular interests</quote> ... 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ThyCorndog 12/29/18 2:09:26 PM #146:	_Squirtle_ posted... Why would 3 alternate views not make you a moderate? What topics are you all counting as major ones? Weed, guns, gay rights, abortion, immigration, healthcare, foreign policy. If you have dissenting views on 3 of those, why wouldn't it make you a moderate? I have yet to see a moderate tell anyone on here what makes them a moderate. I would concede in calling someone a moderate if they actually did hold some sort of centrist/moderate views. all I ever see them do is shit on liberals for everything and keep quiet about conservatives unless its something atrocious --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:914879448] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Squirtle_ posted...</cite> <quote>Why would 3 alternate views not make you a moderate? What topics are you all counting as major ones? Weed, guns, gay rights, abortion, immigration, healthcare, foreign policy. If you have dissenting views on 3 of those, why wouldn't it make you a moderate?</quote> I have yet to see a moderate tell anyone on here what makes them a moderate. I would concede in calling someone a moderate if they actually did hold some sort of centrist/moderate views. all I ever see them do is shit on liberals for everything and keep quiet about conservatives unless its something atrocious</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 12/29/18 2:09:55 PM #147:	ThyCorndog posted... that's a grim view of it. I didn't consider that angle. I like it it may be rooted in parts of our brain that have not had time to adjust to the changes of a modern world where a saber-toothed tiger isn't coming to kill you in the night kind of like why the emotional response to panic-sell stock equities is also wrong but very natural perhaps it's related to why mass shootings that target people unrelated to the attacker's personal problems happen at all. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:914879469] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>that's a grim view of it. I didn't consider that angle. I like it </quote> it may be rooted in parts of our brain that have not had time to adjust to the changes of a modern world where a saber-toothed tiger isn't coming to kill you in the night kind of like why the emotional response to panic-sell stock equities is also wrong but very natural perhaps it's related to why mass shootings that target people unrelated to the attacker's personal problems happen at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 12/29/18 2:10:03 PM #148:	ThyCorndog posted... Darkman124 posted... because in america, lashing out violently causes fear, but not disgust. we respect the man who cries in public less than the man who shoots the public. right-wing terrorism has killed far more americans in the last decade than left-wing terrorism. those on the left tend to make spectacles of themselves in ways we do not respect. that's a grim view of it. I didn't consider that angle. I like it sounds like the Right only respects force. but freak out when somebody suggest using it against them. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:914879473] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote> because in america, lashing out violently causes fear, but not disgust. we respect the man who cries in public less than the man who shoots the public. right-wing terrorism has killed far more americans in the last decade than left-wing terrorism. those on the left tend to make spectacles of themselves in ways we do not respect.</quote> that's a grim view of it. I didn't consider that angle. I like it</quote> sounds like the Right only respects force. but freak out when somebody suggest using it against them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 12/29/18 2:11:18 PM #149:	RickyTheBAWSE posted... sounds like the Right only respects force. but freak out when somebody suggest using it against them. we are discussing moderates, don't twist my words. this goes beyond the right, it's about the flaws in our nature. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:914879522] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote>sounds like the Right only respects force. but freak out when somebody suggest using it against them. </quote> we are discussing moderates, don't twist my words. this goes beyond the right, it's about the flaws in our nature.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 12/29/18 2:38:05 PM #150:	Half of the first page of this topic is some guy that wants to fuck cartoon ponies posting on multiple alts trying to control the topic and people wonder why GameFAQs is dying --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:914880573] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote>Half of the first page of this topic is some guy that wants to fuck cartoon ponies posting on multiple alts trying to control the topic and people wonder why GameFAQs is dying</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 12/29/18 2:48:36 PM #151:	Bio1590 posted... Half of the first page of this topic is some guy that wants to fuck cartoon ponies posting on multiple alts trying to control the topic and people wonder why GameFAQs is dying and he disappeared when he was called out to prove his so called moderate positions --- Hey what's going on in this thread https://imgur.com/6fpKRW8 https://imgur.com/RNZi0gk <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:914881030] in "Mode... [t:77342597]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>Half of the first page of this topic is some guy that wants to fuck cartoon ponies posting on multiple alts trying to control the topic and people wonder why GameFAQs is dying</quote> and he disappeared when he was called out to prove his so called moderate positions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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