Poll of the Day > What's the worst superhero movie of all time?

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The one where Sinbad was a crappy version of Iron Man.
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Probably the David Hasselhoff Nick Fury movie
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Depends.

There are bad movies in the sense that they're low-budget/not fully realized.

Then there are big budget attempts that miss the mark.

In my opinion, the former can be given a pass given the state of their development. With that in mind, I'd say all three of the most recent Fantastic Four films are the most disappointing. There's such rich history and wonderful characters to draw from with that franchise, and they manage to put out not one but THREE terrible films.
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Don't know.

I enjoyed one of the Avengers movie sequels the least. Don't know which one it was. They all feel like the same movie
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It's not out yet.
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Anything with Ben Affleck Batman

I heard fantastic 4 movies were bad.

worst I've seen is daredevil
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Eric Bana's "Hulk" was pretty terrible.
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The latest F4 slightly beats The Green Hornet

They had 3 attempts to make it good and it only got worse
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Most of the "bad" ones are just disappointing.

I would say the only legitimately bad movies I remember are Catwoman and the latest Fantastic 4.
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JOExHIGASHI posted...

worst I've seen is daredevil

Forgot about this one. Definitely in the running.
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Dikitain posted...

Most of the "bad" ones are just disappointing.

I would say the only legitimately bad movies I remember are Catwoman and the latest Fantastic 4.

Oh yeah >_<
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Eric Bana's "Hulk" was pretty terrible.

That movie really is something else, it isnt even bad compared to other superhero films, its bad compared to other bad films

Everyone remembers the fact that the hulk looked like a neon green marshmallow but nobody talks about Nick Noltes inane rambling monologues throughout the film. I dont understand how people just stood there on set and filmed that
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Elektra

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If anyone says Blade I'm going to lose it...
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JixHedgehog posted...

The latest F4 slightly beats The Green Hornet

They had 3 attempts to make it good and it only got worse

Fuck F4ntastic Four. I wouldn't call Green Hornet a superhero film though, he's always just been a pulp fiction character. Seth Rogen ruins a lot of things. Least favorite superhero film is probably Superman IV: The Quest For Peace.

Cotton_Eye_Joe posted...

The one where Sinbad was a crappy version of Iron Man.

The Last Action Hero!

Far-Queue posted...

JOExHIGASHI posted...

worst I've seen is daredevil

Forgot about this one. Definitely in the running.

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but the elektra movie is far worse
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suicide squad, and probably spawn too, ok?
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Jingle All The Way, IMO.
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There are so many sweet summer children in this topic.

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Surprised no one has mentioned Batman and Robin.

It's a really, really bad movie.
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KINGWAR posted...

Surprised no one has mentioned Batman and Robin.

It's a really, really bad movie.

Which? 60s? 90s? Both were better than Elektra.
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SinisterSlay posted...

KINGWAR posted...

Surprised no one has mentioned Batman and Robin.

It's a really, really bad movie.

Which? 60s? 90s? Both were better than Elektra.

The 1997 movie. It's way goofier than Elektra.
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Batman & Robin for sure
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Cotton_Eye_Joe posted...

The one where Sinbad was a crappy version of Iron Man.

you mean Shaq. It was called Steel and he was from DC comics. I feel like DC is trying to make Cyborg the new Steel. Cyborg is shoved into everything. We need a Black person... lets put in Cyborg.
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I couldn't finish Electra.

I haven't seen Catwoman yet, but I want to.

But there are a lot of really bad foreign takes on super heroes that are god awful to the source material.
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I think the fourth Batman flick was it. It's so bad I can't remember its name! Just look what they did to poor BANE!!!

Superman Returns was pretty forgettable but it does have WROOOOOONG!!!

Then X3 was far more execrable than that Supes one for making Juggs a mutant. And possibly the other movie...

ernieforss posted...

Cotton_Eye_Joe posted...

The one where Sinbad was a crappy version of Iron Man.

you mean Shaq. It was called Steel and he was from DC comics.

Funny thing is, that predated the Ironman movies, and even X-Men IIRC... Also he was in Superman TAS one episode pretty sure.
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Aaargh someone mentioned it, why was Ctrl+F failing me... (Oh... I had Match Case on...)

I was better off not rediscovering the name!
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

There are so many sweet summer children in this topic.

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I was going to say either that Captain America movie or Trial of the Incredible Hulk.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

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Whaaaaaaa? 89' Punisher is awesome! Way better then the 2004 and 2008 versions.
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Dikitain posted...

Whaaaaaaa? 89' Punisher is awesome! Way better then the 2004 and 2008 versions.

You are literally the first person in 30 years to ever say that.


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89 Punisher didn't even have the skull shirt. The Thomas Jane one was far from perfect but it was way better than Dolph's movie
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Far-Queue posted...

89 Punisher didn't even have the skull shirt. The Thomas Jane one was far from perfect but it was way better than Dolph's movie

That is like saying First Blood, Cobra, or Blade Runner are horrible movies because they don't follow the source material. It was the 80's, pretty much every movie took liberties with the source material. Plus 80's Punisher sucked in the comics so it is a good thing they don't follow the source material.

The 89 Punisher took shitty source material and turned it into a cheesy 80's action movie (I.E. good), the 2004 movie took good source material (MK Punisher) and turned it into a disappointing mid-00's action romance film.
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Cotton_Eye_Joe posted...

The one where Sinbad was a crappy version of Iron Man.

Im curious, are you talking about Steel?
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Dikitain posted...

Plus 80's Punisher sucked in the comics so it is a good thing they don't follow the source material.

80's Punisher is pretty much the only reason anyone even remotely gives a single solitary shit about the Punisher as a character at all.

70's Punisher was literally just an underdeveloped Spider-Man antagonist (if not outright villain) who occasionally guested in Daredevil to rain on his parade as well. And post 80's Punisher has mostly been a succession of batshit insane and outright stupid storylines that almost no one likes, like the time when he died and became an angel to fight demons, or the time when he died and became Frankenstein, or the time where he became a black man to hide from people. Oh, or the time he became Ghost Rider.

And no, slavishly following the source material for something isn't entirely necessary as long as you put out a good story of your own that retains the spirit of the source material. But honestly, when you shit out a low-budget movie that existing fans of the character almost universally loathe and people who aren't fans of the character also think is kind of stupid and relatively bad, you've pretty much failed across the entire board.

There's a reason why the Punisher movie basically became the go-to shorthand argument for "Marvel can't make good films" for about 15 years straight (even more so than the terrible Captain America film). It basically took the success of Blade, X-Men, AND Spider-Man before Marvel started to shake off the stink.

I've been a comic fan for like 33 years, and I've literally never met a single person who liked that film unironically.


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ParanoidObsessive posted...

the time when he died and became Frankenstein,

Lol, the same actor has played both roles in film.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

80's Punisher is pretty much the only reason anyone even remotely gives a single solitary shit about the Punisher as a character at all.

70's Punisher was literally just an underdeveloped Spider-Man antagonist (if not outright villain) who occasionally guested in Daredevil to rain on his parade as well.

If anything, the popularity of Punisher in the 70's is what led to the oversaturation of him in the 80's and the complete abortion that was Punisher in the 90's. He didn't even start showing up in Captain America and Daredevil until the early 80's. Then Marvel decided to just go nuts and put him everywhere.

And post 80's Punisher has mostly been a succession of batshit insane and outright stupid storylines that almost no one likes, like the time when he died and became an angel to fight demons, or the time when he died and became Frankenstein, or the time where he became a black man to hide from people. Oh, or the time he became Ghost Rider.

And I agree, hence why Punisher 2004 was such a disappointment. The MK Punisher (and eventually transitioning into MAX Punisher) was awesome and completely avoided what you described above in favor of a more gritty down to earth Punisher. What they didn't need to do was turn Punisher into a freaking love story.

There's a reason why the Punisher movie basically became the go-to shorthand argument for "Marvel can't make good films" for about 15 years straight (even more so than the terrible Captain America film). It basically took the success of Blade, X-Men, AND Spider-Man before Marvel started to shake off the stink.

And that is the problem: People think of it only as a Marvel movie. Think of it like just a typical 80's action film and it is pretty fun, not that far removed from something like Cobra, Commando, or Predator.

I've been a comic fan for like 33 years, and I've literally never met a single person who liked that film unironically.

Well, I guess we technically haven't met, but I like it and know a few people who do. I will say it is mostly people who don't like the Punisher comics anyways though.
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KINGWAR posted...

Surprised no one has mentioned Batman and Robin.

It's a really, really bad movie.

Bat ass, tho...

Also, this seems like a good place to mention that Mystery Men is severely underloved. I know a sequel with the same cast is pretty much out of the question...but maybe a reboot or a proper Flaming Carrot movie...? There's so much potential.
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Blorfenburger posted...

Cotton_Eye_Joe posted...

The one where Sinbad was a crappy version of Iron Man.

Im curious, are you talking about Steel?

Shazam
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Dikitain posted...

If anything, the popularity of Punisher in the 70's is what led to the oversaturation of him in the 80's and the complete abortion that was Punisher in the 90's. He didn't even start showing up in Captain America and Daredevil until the early 80's. Then Marvel decided to just go nuts and put him everywhere.

He didn't even get his first comic series until 1986, and his "oversaturation" was very much a product of the 90s.

As for the 70s, he was originally created as a paper-thin rip-off of a popular book character (the Mack Bolan "Executioner" novels that were very popular in the 70s), and only ever really guest-starred in Spider-Man (as a blatant antagonist readers were NOT meant to sympathize with) for the first six years. He appeared all of maybe a half-dozen times in those six years, at no point a hero, at no point a character the audience really cared about at all (at least not in a positive sense).

His first appearance as an antagonist in Daredevil and Captain America WAS in 1980, true, but he didn't really become popular - with readers wanting to see more of him as an actual protagonist or outright hero - until 84-85 or so (keeping in mind that, up to this point, he'd still only been in like a dozen stories, tops).

The 80s action movie boom you yourself already mentioned and the rise of the ultra-masculine action hero who shoots all the bad guys was a large part of what helped propel the Punisher into popularity in the first place. Much like Wolverine, he owes almost ALL of his later success and popularity to the 80s, not the 70s.

Almost the entirety of what makes the Punisher a character that people know or care about in any way comes from the 80s. Even whatever stories you might like from later periods only exist because of the groundwork laid in the 80s.

If all anyone knew about the character was what was directly established in the 1970s and nothing else, he'd be about on par with the Rocket Racer or Big Wheel in terms of recognizability or popularity.



Dikitain posted...

And that is the problem: People think of it only as a Marvel movie. Think of it like just a typical 80's action film and it is pretty fun, not that far removed from something like Cobra, Commando, or Predator.

Because it WAS essentially a Marvel movie. Or, at least, a movie deliberately attempting to base its identity on the existing Marvel character and its popularity, in order to cash in on that character. Like it or not, it was a comic book movie, and it failed spectacularly at being one.

But even as stereotypical "80s action movie", it was still a relatively bad movie. It was produced by New World Pictures (a studio notorious for terrible B-movies and exploitation films), and its parent company are actually the ones who bought Marvel in the mid-80s, and basically helped drive it into near-bankruptcy in the late 80s and 90s before they sold it off to even worse masters. It's the sort of movie people get together and watch to make fun of, not one that anyone would enjoy unironically in the same way people enjoyed Cobra or Commando or Rambo or even Death Wish.

Again, it was a movie fans were going to hate from the very start, but which also wasn't even remotely going to win over non fans.


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Japanese Spider-Man

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Worst one I've seen is Supergirl.
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