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Delta_F14
12/24/18 3:18:57 AM
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Blue_Inigo
12/24/18 3:22:59 AM
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Like Im going to believe this random guy
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MC_BatCommander
12/24/18 3:46:00 AM
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I don't believe for a second that the majority of critics were too scared to shit on the movie
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CreekCo
12/24/18 7:52:29 AM
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From the way the interviewer tried to cut him off twice I'd say yeah he was speaking honestly. He's also not just some "random" dude, he's an industry insider:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Newman

He's not saying anything other than the obvious though.
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CyricZ
12/24/18 8:02:56 AM
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Lol the post is getting ratio'd and the dude's response is "that just proves I'm right!"

But that's a conspiracy theorist for you.
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Irony
12/24/18 8:04:33 AM
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He is right
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Milkman5
12/24/18 8:11:29 AM
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The Last Jedi sucked
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Southernfatman
12/24/18 8:12:51 AM
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But expectations were subverted. That means it's objectively good. OMG, people are just mad that TLJ didn't go along with their headcanon. Ugh!

/s
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Tyranthraxus
12/24/18 8:14:16 AM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
I don't believe for a second that the majority of critics were too scared to shit on the movie

Nah he's right. If you slam a movie like Star Wars it's a very good way to make sure you're never allowed back to another pre release screening. They're not being forced to give positive reviews, they're just risking their entire career if they don't.
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DarkRoast
12/24/18 8:14:37 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
But expectations were subverted. That means it's objectively good. OMG, people are just mad that TLJ didn't go along with their headcanon. Ugh!

/s


Yeah, being a terrible general who doesn't tell anyone what the plan is while everyone around them gets killed is a pretty subversive form of a hero.
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Kitt
12/24/18 8:23:35 AM
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Ew, this is the guy who directed Barely Lethal, Fanboys and a bunch of other shit movies.
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LockeMonster
12/24/18 8:25:02 AM
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The movie was shit and I wouldn't be surprised at all if this is true.

I've yet to meet a single person IRL that liked that shit. And most of these people loved TFA.

Even on here, there's like maybe 6-10 people who loved it and the rest shit on it.
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AlisLandale
12/24/18 8:26:05 AM
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Id like this to be true (just so the critics can stop being used as a defense for this awful movie lol) but ones got to be skeptical with these kinds of rumors.

Not gonna lie though, Ive got to see Epsiode 9 just to see how this trainwreck ends.
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St0rmFury
12/24/18 8:34:19 AM
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You don't want to go against the House of M.
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Doom_Art
12/24/18 8:36:27 AM
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I just don't understand why the people who disliked TLJ need to resort to conspiracy shit like this to justify them disliking the movie.

Stuff like "Mark Hamill secretly hated the movie but Disney forced him to look like he liked it" or "Critics are too scared to give the movie bad reviews"

why can't you just dislike the movie and leave it at that? why does there have to be some big conspiracy involved?
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Guide
12/24/18 8:36:32 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't his actual account. He's not verified or anything, most of his profession are.
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Were_Wyrm
12/24/18 8:39:02 AM
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I thought it was pretty well known that this is how the movie and gaming industry works when it comes to reviews.
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EzeDoesIt
12/24/18 8:39:05 AM
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Here his Kyle Newman standing with a Wookie at one of his premiers: https://m.imdb.com/name/nm1381100/mediaviewer/rm688228864?context=default&ref_=m_nm_ph_2
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CyricZ
12/24/18 8:41:45 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
why can't you just dislike the movie and leave it at that? why does there have to be some big conspiracy involved?

Because you know as well as I do that it's not enough to not like the movie, they have to be RIGHT about not liking the movie. Otherwise there's a chance that they're mistaken, and there's nothing worse than being wrong on the Internet.
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LockeMonster
12/24/18 8:42:37 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
I just don't understand why the people who disliked TLJ need to resort to conspiracy shit like this to justify them disliking the movie.

Stuff like "Mark Hamill secretly hated the movie but Disney forced him to look like he liked it" or "Critics are too scared to give the movie bad reviews"

why can't you just dislike the movie and leave it at that? why does there have to be some big conspiracy involved?

Mark Hamill did hate that shit. Conspiracy crap are the people who deny his pretty clear indication that he didn't like the direction at all and was vocal about it.

And with George Lucas actually getting shut down by Disney for criticizing them, it's not farfetched.

Guide posted...
I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't his actual account. He's not verified or anything, most of his profession are.

It's not his account. It's a recording of him. Doubt that's not actually him talking.
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Doom_Art
12/24/18 8:47:41 AM
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LockeMonster posted...
Mark Hamill did hate that shit.

yeah I've seen the same random compilation as everyone lol. not convinced

i'd rather go by what he actually says lol

also for the record, I think TLJ was very disappointing overall (and only salvaged by Luke/Rey/Ren) but the amount of visceral hatred it gets is just a little psychotic lol
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LockeMonster
12/24/18 8:50:20 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
LockeMonster posted...
Mark Hamill did hate that shit.

yeah I've seen the same random compilation as everyone lol. not convinced

i'd rather go by what he actually says lol

also for the record, I think TLJ was very disappointing overall (and only salvaged by Luke/Rey/Ren) but the amount of visceral hatred it gets is just a little psychotic lol

He literally said he didn't like the direction at all. He said he didn't like it. Stop trying to find hidden bullshit which you yourself are accusing others of.

What's psychotic is you and CryicZ blindly defending this shit for a full year and making all sorts of silly excuses on the people who didn't like it. It's changed like 50 times now.
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Ving_Rhames
12/24/18 8:53:00 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
(and only salvaged by Luke/Rey/Ren)


Rey and Luke were among the worst parts of the movie...
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AlisLandale
12/24/18 8:53:27 AM
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In all seriousness I do think something, likely the Disney connection, has inflated peoples opinions of the series. Whether intentionally or subconsciously.

I just cant see LucasFilm putting out The Last Jedi and not getting shit on relentlessly for it.
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Doom_Art
12/24/18 8:54:59 AM
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LockeMonster posted...
defending this shit for a full year

Yes, because while the movie was a disappointment, veering off into "this is worse than Attack of the Clones" or "I'll never watch another Star Wars again" is just nutty

I think people have a tendency to severely overreact to the film.

I think it probably seems to you like I'm defending it because I'm not screaming about how the prequels are better and this movie ruined SW for me forever and ever.
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Southernfatman
12/24/18 8:58:32 AM
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While some do go overboard, the reactions to the film are mostly warranted. I will say it's worse than AOTC. While Lucas is somewhat incompetent as a filmmaker and made a bad movie, at least he wasn't doing it on purpose to be a little troll like Rian Johnson did. He really did ruin all the potential the new sequels had. I thought The Force Awakens was a fine start of a new trilogy and wanted to see where it went, and Johnson shit all over that. Why shouldn't fans be upset with that? He deserves a lot more hate than Lucas got way back when.
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LockeMonster
12/24/18 8:59:38 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Yes, because while the movie was a disappointment, veering off into "this is worse than Attack of the Clones" or "I'll never watch another Star Wars again" is just nutty

Again, you responding in almost every fucking TLJ about how people are wrong about this is actually what's fucking nutty. If you look on that site, you've replied in over 50 TLJ topics. Nutty? Yes.

Doom_Art posted...
I think people have a tendency to severely overreact to the film.

I think it probably seems to you like I'm defending it because I'm not screaming about how the prequels are better and this movie ruined SW for me forever and ever.

That makes no sense. If a movie is shit, and people have fonder memories and better time watching the prequels, then it means this shit sucked. Which is what you can't comprehend. The host of issues with TLJ make TPM and RotS seem pretty damn good. Just because TLJ had better acting and graphics doesn't mean shit if the story and direction are shit.
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darkjedilink
12/24/18 9:02:25 AM
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CE, where every video game reviewer is bought and paid for, but movie reviewers can't possibly be.

Disney has a shit-ton of influence, and people in the industry are most definitely afraid of speaking against them.
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darkjedilink
12/24/18 9:03:32 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Cranky old man Luke was a fantastic character whether Mark Hamill liked it or not

In a vacuum, yes. It makes zero sense in the context of Star Wars, though.
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creativerealms
12/24/18 9:04:57 AM
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Sure. *rolls eyes*
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DoctorVader
12/24/18 9:05:59 AM
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TLJ was garbage. I refuse to believe anyone liked that trash.
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Doom_Art
12/24/18 9:06:00 AM
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LockeMonster posted...
Again, you responding in almost every fucking TLJ about how people are wrong about this is actually what's fucking nutty. If you look on that site, you've replied in over 50 TLJ topics. Nutty? Yes.

Your reaction ITT is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about.

It's a freaking movie, man. You're getting all huffy and swearing n stuff just because I don't dislike it as much as you.
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COVxy
12/24/18 9:07:14 AM
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It's the SJWs behind this!
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The_Scarecrow
12/24/18 9:08:00 AM
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Nobody wants to upset the mouse.
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__aCEr__
12/24/18 9:08:01 AM
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Nothing says "I'm not crazy" more than going offsite to count how many times somebody talked about a movie you didn't like.
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LockeMonster
12/24/18 9:08:10 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
LockeMonster posted...
Again, you responding in almost every fucking TLJ about how people are wrong about this is actually what's fucking nutty. If you look on that site, you've replied in over 50 TLJ topics. Nutty? Yes.

Your reaction ITT is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about.

It's a freaking movie, man. You're getting all huffy and swearing n stuff just because I don't dislike it as much as you.

What reaction? I simply said the movie was bad. Swearing is not indicative of anything. I like using swear words and it doesn't indicate anger or whatever you foolishly believe.

I'm glad you can't defend you acting like a lunatic in every TLJ topic since last December.
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Tyranthraxus
12/24/18 9:09:56 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Stuff like "Mark Hamill secretly hated the movie but Disney forced him to look like he liked it"

Mark Hamill doesn't secretly hate the movie. He openly hates it.
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CyricZ
12/24/18 9:10:17 AM
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Told you. It's about being right.

I came to peace with people not liking the film nine months ago, and yet here they all are. Fresh and ravenous as ever a full year later.
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LockeMonster
12/24/18 9:10:21 AM
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__aCEr__ posted...
Nothing says "I'm not crazy" more than going offsite to count how many times somebody talked about a movie you didn't like.

It's not a secret Doom responds to every TLJ topics acting like he's mad people don't like it.

I just double checked and saw it's over 50. If someone is talking about others being insane and nutty, pointing out his own behavior is not wrong.
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LockeMonster
12/24/18 9:12:33 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Told you. It's about being right.

I came to peace with people not liking the film nine months ago, and yet here they all are. Fresh and ravenous as ever a full year later.

Bro, you said your 39 year old self is perfectly in tune with 20 year olds the other day along with tons of other mindless shit. I don't think your opinion matters much on this.
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CyricZ
12/24/18 9:22:50 AM
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LockeMonster posted...
Bro, you said your 39 year old self is perfectly in tune with 20 year olds the other day along with tons of other mindless shit. I don't think your opinion matters much on this.

Meanwhile, I don't know or particularly care who you are.
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LockeMonster
12/24/18 9:22:58 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
LockeMonster posted...
CyricZ posted...
Told you. It's about being right.

I came to peace with people not liking the film nine months ago, and yet here they all are. Fresh and ravenous as ever a full year later.

Bro, you said your 39 year old self is perfectly in tune with 20 year olds the other day along with tons of other mindless shit. I don't think your opinion matters much on this.

Yeah you sure sound normal and sane

Oh look. Shockthemonley talking about insanity. Like everything you post isn't insane.
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LockeMonster
12/24/18 9:23:19 AM
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CyricZ posted...
LockeMonster posted...
Bro, you said your 39 year old self is perfectly in tune with 20 year olds the other day along with tons of other mindless shit. I don't think your opinion matters much on this.

Meanwhile, I don't know or particularly care who you are.

And that doesn't change anything. Like wtf.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
12/24/18 9:28:22 AM
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LockeMonster posted...
Doom_Art posted...
LockeMonster posted...
Mark Hamill did hate that shit.

yeah I've seen the same random compilation as everyone lol. not convinced

i'd rather go by what he actually says lol

also for the record, I think TLJ was very disappointing overall (and only salvaged by Luke/Rey/Ren) but the amount of visceral hatred it gets is just a little psychotic lol

He literally said he didn't like the direction at all. He said he didn't like it. Stop trying to find hidden bullshit which you yourself are accusing others of.

What's psychotic is you and CryicZ blindly defending this shit for a full year and making all sorts of silly excuses on the people who didn't like it. It's changed like 50 times now.

Mark's a great actor and a huge part of my childhood, but that doesn't make him the greatest story man in the business.

Let us not forget, his big idea for ROTJ was that Luke should fall to the Dark Side.
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AlecSkorpio
12/24/18 9:32:08 AM
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A part of me believes that Disney would completely fuck you over if you gave one of their films a horrible review.

Another part of me feels that most critics were either fanboys or thought that TLJ was "good enough" for a Star Wars film so they gave it overall positive reviews.

I think your casual movie goer/fan is just getting bored with Star Wars at this point more than TLJ being *so bad* that it pushed people away.
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Kitt
12/24/18 9:50:15 AM
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LockeMonster posted...
Doom_Art posted...
LockeMonster posted...
Again, you responding in almost every fucking TLJ about how people are wrong about this is actually what's fucking nutty. If you look on that site, you've replied in over 50 TLJ topics. Nutty? Yes.

Your reaction ITT is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about.

It's a freaking movie, man. You're getting all huffy and swearing n stuff just because I don't dislike it as much as you.

What reaction? I simply said the movie was bad. Swearing is not indicative of anything. I like using swear words and it doesn't indicate anger or whatever you foolishly believe.

I'm glad you can't defend you acting like a lunatic in every TLJ topic since last December.

Holy shit, calm down lmao
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LockeMonster
12/24/18 9:53:01 AM
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Kitt posted...
LockeMonster posted...
Doom_Art posted...
LockeMonster posted...
Again, you responding in almost every fucking TLJ about how people are wrong about this is actually what's fucking nutty. If you look on that site, you've replied in over 50 TLJ topics. Nutty? Yes.

Your reaction ITT is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about.

It's a freaking movie, man. You're getting all huffy and swearing n stuff just because I don't dislike it as much as you.

What reaction? I simply said the movie was bad. Swearing is not indicative of anything. I like using swear words and it doesn't indicate anger or whatever you foolishly believe.

I'm glad you can't defend you acting like a lunatic in every TLJ topic since last December.

Holy shit, calm down lmao

Answering and explaining something to someone doesn't mean I'm not calm. Find a better response to insult me with next time.
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