Board 8 > C/D: Falco has one of the worst recovery options in Smash Bros.

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Raka_Putra
12/22/18 9:32:31 PM
#1:


C/D: Falco has bad recovery moves - Results (12 votes)
Concur
33.33% (4 votes)
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Dis I agree with
41.67% (5 votes)
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crazyisgood
25% (3 votes)
3
That stupid side B killed me way more than any opponent. It's a shame too since the rest of his moves are actually decent to great.
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Mewtwo59
12/22/18 9:38:36 PM
#2:


When characters like Little Mac and Incineroar exist, Falco's recovery looks amazing.
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Raka_Putra
12/22/18 9:40:30 PM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
When characters like Little Mac and Incineroar exist, Falco's recovery looks amazing.

They didn't exist yet in Brawl, which triggered me to make this topic.
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12/23/18 12:20:05 AM
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"one of the" sure

OG Link has it bad
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Tokoyami
12/23/18 12:35:00 AM
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I've actually found you can manipulate Incineroar's a little to make it not quite as bad as it initially appears
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ExThaNemesis
12/23/18 12:39:12 AM
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GTM posted...
"one of the" sure

OG Link has it bad


Uhhhh what? Not in Ultimate he doesn't.
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StealThisSheen
12/23/18 12:39:33 AM
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"one of" sure but a lot of characters have bad recovery and he's not the worst so I don't get the topic
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LOLIAmAnAlt
12/23/18 12:48:04 AM
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My favorite smash character better not have the worst recovery.
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CelesMyUserName
12/23/18 1:10:18 AM
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link mainer since 64 and I've never had Link recovery problems

although before the Remote Bombs change I used to use them for an extra "jump"
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Red Shifter
12/23/18 1:36:34 AM
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mnkboy907
12/23/18 1:44:35 AM
#12:


Raka_Putra posted...
That stupid side B killed me way more than any opponent. It's a shame too since the rest of his moves are actually decent to great.

I kill myself with Squirtle's side b like once every three games at the minimum.
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haloiscoolisbak
12/23/18 1:52:41 AM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
GTM posted...
"one of the" sure

OG Link has it bad


Uhhhh what? Not in Ultimate he doesn't.


Do you know what OG means
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WazzupGenius00
12/23/18 3:06:08 AM
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OG Link, as opposed to Young Link or Toon Link, is how I had interpreted it
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Solioxrz362
12/23/18 3:19:54 AM
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Competitive player who has won a few locals to set the record straight. Falco can get back to the ledge just fine, but recovery IMO is way more than that.

Recovery is also how easy it is for you to get hit once you land on the stage (if you decide to go to the stage instead of the ledge). Recovery is how easy it is to intercept your up b/side b/whatever other moves a character uses to make it back to stage. Recovery is your ability to fight your way off the ledge, onto the ground, and out of the corner.

Falco's recovery is bad. His slow air drift means he relies on a very easily intercepted side b and up b to make it back. A lot of the time, he can still make it back to the stage with these moves, but even if he makes it to the ledge, his bad ground speed and air drift means he can't escape the corner very easily. Opponents often outspeed him so no matter what option he chooses he can't reposition himself into center stage well. If he tries to side b above opponent's heads to get back on the stage, he doesn't travel far enough to escape their punish option, and even when he lands he has a lot of lag where he's ultra vulnerable to a punish.

"Worst in the game" status is kinda reserved for characters like Mac, Incineroar, arguably Chrom, and arguably Kirby. But Falco's recovery is definitely bad.
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12/23/18 3:50:04 AM
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I mean Smash 64 Link!
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12/23/18 3:51:22 AM
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CelesMyUserName posted...
link mainer since 64 and I've never had Link recovery problems


you poor thing
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Samurai7
12/23/18 8:00:48 AM
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Red Shifter posted...
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The up b is awful, but typically you never have to use it to get back on the stage.
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Grand Kirby
12/23/18 1:06:14 PM
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You know who has the worst up B recovery move? Rosalina.

If I had a nickel for everytime I accidentally launched myself into the wrong direction with her... I don't know why hers is so finicky compared to others
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FL81
12/23/18 1:06:37 PM
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Little Mac, Roy, Chrom, Belmonts, Dr. Mario, etc. all say hi

not to mention Falco has an insanely high jump
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12/23/18 3:03:08 PM
#21:


Grand Kirby posted...
You know who has the worst up B recovery move? Rosalina.


ugh the guy at work is so good with rosalina's recovery in smash 4
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Mewtwo59
12/23/18 3:03:46 PM
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Grand Kirby posted...
You know who has the worst up B recovery move? Rosalina.

If I had a nickel for everytime I accidentally launched myself into the wrong direction with her... I don't know why hers is so finicky compared to others


Wolf's recovery has the same problem except he gets less range on his.
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Panthera
12/23/18 4:35:24 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Link in 64 has the worst and its not a debate. This is a fact based on frame analysis.


That piece of shit move barely even goes up...or forward, for that matter
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pjbasis
12/23/18 5:58:30 PM
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