Poll of the Day > When do you think that China will become the world's superpower?

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Do you think the US will eventually declare outright war against the Chinese and try to avert this from happening?

Currently we are rapidly advancing to a point where the Chinese consumer is more popular than the American consumer. We see this with the west starting to bend to Chinese cultural requirements and Tencent growing more and more powerful in the West. We are also multiple years into the whole "Hollywood makes movies with the Chinese in mind" mindset.
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When? Its pretty much already happened.

Judgmenl posted...

Do you think the US will eventually declare outright war against the Chinese and try to avert this from happening?

No
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I dont think the US and China will go to all out war but I do think they may have some armed conflicts over resources in the coming decades

China is definitely on the upswing in many ways though and their questionable censorship tactics are actually proving sadly more effective at maintaining order in the digital space compared to our totally open social media platform that is destabilizing our entire political system

I hear their whole real estate market is totally fucked though and is bound to eventually collapse like some thing that collapses really badly
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Probably somewhere around 2010 I think.
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Mead posted...

I dont think the US and China will go to all out war but I do think they may have some armed conflicts over resources in the coming decades

China is definitely on the upswing in many ways though and their questionable censorship tactics are actually proving sadly more effective at maintaining order in the digital space compared to our totally open social media platform that is destabilizing our entire political system

I hear their whole real estate market is totally fucked though and is bound to eventually collapse like some thing that collapses really badly

It's fucking terrifying how effective their current approaches to problems are. They either throw money at shit, lock everyone up or just lie and pretend it didn't happen.

I know from personal experience with Chinese people that there are some who consider Xi's actions to be scummy, but they consider politics to be a sort of luxury that ordinary people shouldn't be concerned with. That's how the culture was deliberately set up.
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If anything, China is likely to cook up a plague-level variety of tuberculosis and devastate the population, if not cause the extinction of the human race, with their constant stuffing of their livestock with EVERY ANTIBIOTIC KNOWN TO MAN. ALL OF THEM. This breeds resistant bacteria faster than nothing else. Different vector, but look at what influenza did in the early 20th century, and at the very end of the 20th century. People today only seem to know about TB because of Rooty Tooty Cowboy Shooty II.
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After some sort of global crisis.
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WastelandCowboy posted...

When? Its pretty much already happened.

Indeed. They are one of what, three powers to actually make a proper 5th generation fighter jet?

They are doing a decent job keeping their military power up to spec. They just aren't focusing too much energy into the actual mass production of the technology right now and are prioritizing internal affairs and modernization.

They possess a great deal of manufacturing power and general clout, and the notion that they just make crappy knock-offs (and or merely assemble authentic items for foreign companies) is becoming outdated.

As far as wars go, I honestly think China is more likely to go to war with North Korea than the USA. They put on a friendly face, but China isn't particularly any more fond of NK than anyone else, aside from the fact that it just happens to make a nice buffer zone so long as NK's paranoia is only looking south or at the south's allies.
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Sephiroth C Ryu posted...

As far as wars go, I honestly think China is more likely to go to war with North Korea than the USA.

Even more likely to poke NK in to firing on SK then taking the whole peninsula.
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It happens when people decide to go for a nap and enters the Chinese Dreamy Land.

Jokes aside, China is a superpower already even though their military might requires some improving and adjusting. They use the people power and money power. Using money power, they make Americans, lefty people and other Western lefty people to boost their morale and influences. American entertainment industry, mass media, scholars, left-wing politicians, and common people who helps China in their own way; some gets paid, others do not. Somehow, when half of America kowtows to China, China becomes a massive superpower even when it lacks an adequate military might equaling to America's. To win a war without actually fighting is a Sun Tzu tactic and that is a very Chinese thing.
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Over the past two years, the US has abdicated much of its leadership on the world stage by withdrawing from various agreements. In most of those circumstances, the rest of the participants just kept going without the US, sometimes even with China assuming the leadership role.

If it hasnt happened already and this trend continues, probably by the next US Presidential election.
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