Poll of the Day > NASA is going back to the moon.

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WastelandCowboy
11/17/18 3:57:56 PM
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GanonsSpirit
11/17/18 4:01:17 PM
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In before funding cut.
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dragon504
11/17/18 4:01:39 PM
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Neat. Isn't China trying for their first crack at the moon soonish?
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EclairReturns
11/17/18 4:04:59 PM
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What exactly is the point of this endeavor? America already went to the Moon forty-nine years ago. Why must they do so again?
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dragon504
11/17/18 4:06:11 PM
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EclairReturns posted...
What exactly is the point of this endeavor? America already went to the Moon forty-nine years ago. Why must they do so again?


To make a jump off point for further solar system exploration.
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pedro45
11/17/18 4:07:18 PM
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EclairReturns posted...
What exactly is the point of this endeavor? America already went to the Moon forty-nine years ago. Why must they do so again?


For the Republic
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SmokeMassTree
11/17/18 4:08:22 PM
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EclairReturns posted...
What exactly is the point of this endeavor? America already went to the Moon forty-nine years ago. Why must they do so again?


lol no they didn't
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Lokarin
11/17/18 4:09:26 PM
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EclairReturns posted...
What exactly is the point of this endeavor? America already went to the Moon forty-nine years ago. Why must they do so again?


Why do people climb mountains when they've already been climbed?
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dragon504
11/17/18 4:09:27 PM
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SmokeMassTree posted...
EclairReturns posted...
What exactly is the point of this endeavor? America already went to the Moon forty-nine years ago. Why must they do so again?


lol no they didn't


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GanonsSpirit
11/17/18 5:01:06 PM
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EclairReturns posted...
What exactly is the point of this endeavor? America already went to the Moon forty-nine years ago. Why must they do so again?

Did you watch the video? It explicitly states they're building a moon base so they can get to other places in the solar system easier.
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BlackScythe0
11/17/18 5:05:48 PM
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EclairReturns posted...
What exactly is the point of this endeavor? America already went to the Moon forty-nine years ago. Why must they do so again?


It seems this time it's to build a base for mars travel.

To be fair it seems kind of logical, we waste a lot of fuel leaving the atmosphere and we are going to need a lot of supplies to actually go to mars.
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green dragon
11/17/18 5:06:24 PM
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oh, are they gonna do it for real this time?
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aDirtyShisno
11/17/18 5:08:55 PM
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We
Are
NASA

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Ferarri619
11/17/18 5:14:51 PM
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The first thing I was reminded of when watching this vid was the UAC from Doom 3, and now I see poeple are actually mentioning Mars.
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wolfy42
11/17/18 5:41:54 PM
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They announced the lead Astronaut this time. Her name is Alice:)
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Sahuagin
11/17/18 6:49:10 PM
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yay Mike Rowe
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ninja_lootz
11/17/18 7:16:22 PM
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More remakes from Hollywood? Can't they come up with something original?
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coinstarcad
11/17/18 8:36:44 PM
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The first time we went to the moon was just because the russians beat us to outside the atmosphere. Going again seems to be a boondoggle waste of money.
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BlackScythe0
11/17/18 8:40:28 PM
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coinstarcad posted...
The first time we went to the moon was just because the russians beat us to outside the atmosphere. Going again seems to be a boondoggle waste of money.


This is how you know someone didn't watch the video or read any other comments in the thread.
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ParanoidObsessive
11/17/18 8:57:16 PM
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GanonsSpirit posted...
EclairReturns posted...
What exactly is the point of this endeavor? America already went to the Moon forty-nine years ago. Why must they do so again?

Did you watch the video? It explicitly states they're building a moon base so they can get to other places in the solar system easier.

Which is odd, because it seems like it would be far easier and more efficient to establish some sort of space station base as a launching off point than one on the moon. Because while gravity is certainly reduced there, you still need to use a signifcant amount of fuel to break orbit there, which wouldn't be an issue if you were launching from space.


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BlackScythe0
11/17/18 9:11:43 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
GanonsSpirit posted...
EclairReturns posted...
What exactly is the point of this endeavor? America already went to the Moon forty-nine years ago. Why must they do so again?

Did you watch the video? It explicitly states they're building a moon base so they can get to other places in the solar system easier.

Which is odd, because it seems like it would be far easier and more efficient to establish some sort of space station base as a launching off point than one on the moon. Because while gravity is certainly reduced there, you still need to use a signifcant amount of fuel to break orbit there, which wouldn't be an issue if you were launching from space.



If I were to make a wild guess they are probably planning a base larger than we currently have the technology to make into a satellite. Right now sending things into space is an exponential cost equation, even if the moon has gravity it's not the same sort of thing that requires such massive rockets to escape the pull.
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dragon504
11/17/18 9:26:51 PM
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I really hope this happens and is a big success. I'd be super stoked to see asteroid mining in my lifetime and people on Mars.
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Questionmarktarius
11/17/18 9:48:36 PM
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EclairReturns posted...
What exactly is the point of this endeavor? America already went to the Moon forty-nine years ago. Why must they do so again?

Helium-3
https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/infographics/infographic.view.php?id=11272
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Mead
11/17/18 9:54:30 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
EclairReturns posted...
What exactly is the point of this endeavor? America already went to the Moon forty-nine years ago. Why must they do so again?

Helium-3
https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/infographics/infographic.view.php?id=11272


This. The moon is rich in potential fuel.
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BlackScythe0
11/17/18 10:06:57 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
EclairReturns posted...
What exactly is the point of this endeavor? America already went to the Moon forty-nine years ago. Why must they do so again?

Helium-3
https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/infographics/infographic.view.php?id=11272


I like the 1. Go to moon 2. ? 3. Minerals part of the infographic.

But yea there are too many reasons to want to exploit the moon we are never going to progress if we never take a step.
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dragon504
11/17/18 10:38:06 PM
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I don't care if greed gets us into space, as long as we get there.
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Questionmarktarius
11/17/18 10:40:53 PM
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Why even worry about "environmental concerns" on the moon?
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AwesomeTurtwig
11/17/18 10:41:24 PM
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Mentioned partners. Not Lockheed. I'm gonna rage.
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dragon504
11/17/18 11:17:14 PM
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I'm fairly convinced the lure of big bucks via space mining will eventually be a big leap in space tech/travel. The sheer amount of valuable metals in some asteroids is too big of a lure imo. Then, if we can process the metal while it's still in space, we'll open up a ton of space construction options/possibilities.
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wolfy42
11/17/18 11:26:15 PM
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The moon has always been the potential launch point for any further exploration, I mean, always as in from before I was born (50 years ago +). Unless we come up with cold fusion or some infinite source of power here on earth, it just makes sense to create a base (and then expand on them) on the moon and launch from there.

Basically infinite energy source on the moon and far less needed to launch anything, still plenty of metals etc to actually build things as well (without having to get it out of our atmosphere).

If I remember correctly and it's been eons, Mars is the next step primarily due to large amounts of ice which can be converted into o2, and again a lower gravity (A bit over 1/3rd earths). Would be the easiest way to resupply the moon and any bases on saturns/jupiters moons etc.

The basic plan was always to build a space station initially (allowing the building of mining equipment, and supplies to make a sustainable station on the moon). Then build a station on the moon (expanding to including mining operations etc), then expand to mars.

The plan has been still born for most of my life though.
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Sahuagin
11/18/18 12:21:39 AM
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dragon504 posted...
I'm fairly convinced the lure of big bucks via space mining will eventually be a big leap in space tech/travel. The sheer amount of valuable metals in some asteroids is too big of a lure imo. Then, if we can process the metal while it's still in space, we'll open up a ton of space construction options/possibilities.

yes, metallic asteroids are supposed to be worth in the tens of trillions of dollars. a problem with that, though, is that the price of metal wouldn't stay so high if we had that much of it. mining a gold asteroid would make you a lot of money at first, but it would also crash the price the gold.
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BlackScythe0
11/18/18 12:57:00 AM
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Sahuagin posted...
dragon504 posted...
I'm fairly convinced the lure of big bucks via space mining will eventually be a big leap in space tech/travel. The sheer amount of valuable metals in some asteroids is too big of a lure imo. Then, if we can process the metal while it's still in space, we'll open up a ton of space construction options/possibilities.

yes, metallic asteroids are supposed to be worth in the tens of trillions of dollars. a problem with that, though, is that the price of metal wouldn't stay so high if we had that much of it. mining a gold asteroid would make you a lot of money at first, but it would also crash the price the gold.


And? You act like that would exist in a vacuum.

Most of the things that will be targeted for mining first would probably be things that will be used in furthering space technology. Like gold in particular has use in electronic components.
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shadowsword87
11/18/18 3:24:07 AM
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Sahuagin posted...
dragon504 posted...
I'm fairly convinced the lure of big bucks via space mining will eventually be a big leap in space tech/travel. The sheer amount of valuable metals in some asteroids is too big of a lure imo. Then, if we can process the metal while it's still in space, we'll open up a ton of space construction options/possibilities.

yes, metallic asteroids are supposed to be worth in the tens of trillions of dollars. a problem with that, though, is that the price of metal wouldn't stay so high if we had that much of it. mining a gold asteroid would make you a lot of money at first, but it would also crash the price the gold.


Didn't stop the Spanish.
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Sahuagin
11/18/18 3:30:11 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
And?

just that it's somewhat economically dangerous

shadowsword87 posted...
Didn't stop the Spanish.

a single gold asteroid can have something like 5000x the amount of gold the spanish stole
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shadowsword87
11/18/18 3:31:39 AM
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Sahuagin posted...
a single gold asteroid can have something like 5000x the amount of gold the spanish stole


My point is that people don't really think about the market crashing if they're on top of the market when it crashes.
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FatalAccident
11/18/18 3:44:31 AM
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jesus fucking christ America, why does everything always have to be so fucking dramatic lol
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green dragon
11/18/18 9:20:33 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
jesus fucking christ America, why does everything always have to be so fucking dramatic lol

Our president is a reality tv star....
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BeerOnTap
11/18/18 9:29:57 AM
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Over 21 trillion in debt and the devaluation of the US dollar looming over our heads as a result. Glad to know the government still knows how to waste more money.
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BlackScythe0
11/18/18 10:14:35 AM
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Sahuagin posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
And?

just that it's somewhat economically dangerous


And my belief is that we won't see serious exploitation of space resources until we have some form of manufacturing in space. Which causes me to suspect that most of what we end up mining in space won't even make it back to earth.
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ParanoidObsessive
11/18/18 4:42:26 PM
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green dragon posted...
FatalAccident posted...
jesus fucking christ America, why does everything always have to be so fucking dramatic lol

Our president is a reality tv star....

This suddenly reminded me of how Doc Brown in 1955 was horrified that the President in 1985 was an actor in Back to the Future.


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