Poll of the Day > Washington DC is LOWERING the VOTING AGE to SIXTEEN!!!

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Full Throttle
11/03/18 11:48:21 PM
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Would you support lowering the voting age to 16? - Results (6 votes)
Yes. teens are always at rallies and wearing political outfits as they are old enough to know the political process
66.67% (4 votes)
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No. they don't know anything at that age
33.33% (2 votes)
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Washington DC is considering lowering the voting age to 16 as city council is preparing on a bill to do so in all elections, both local and federal!!

A bill won 3-0 approval in the Judiciary and Public Safety committee and will get final vote before full council this month

The 26th Amendment to the US Constitution guarantees citizens 18 and older the right to vote but scholars said it doesn't prevent a state, or in this the nation's capital from setting a lower age.

Charles Allen says this bill will "enfranchise the District's young people and bring their voices into the political process"

It would allow 10,400 teens between 16 and 17 to vote in the 2020 election and more than 80% of them identify as youth of colour..

Vote16DC Campaign Manager Dave Chandrasekaran said "DC is poised to become the first major American city ot grant voting rights to 16-17 year olds. At a time when political discourse in this country is so divisive, it's really inspiriting to witness how passionate DC youth are having a voice and positively influencing our community"

Would you support the voting age lowered to 16?

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hotcegaI
11/03/18 11:49:17 PM
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Washington DC is considering
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SkynyrdRocker
11/03/18 11:50:11 PM
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Holy shit that's a dumb idea
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dioxxys
11/03/18 11:51:57 PM
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if anything it sould be risen

Why should teens who dont even know what its like to rent/own a home and work a regular job have the right to vote? They just earned the right to fuck and cant even drink alcohol or die for their country.
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Hop103
11/04/18 12:01:31 AM
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Bad idea, 16 years olds aren't capable of handling a huge responsibility like voting, that just invites the red (because the young people now don't even like the establishment Democrats, it's either GOP or Democratic Socialism which the latter is bad and the former while not inherently bad, the selection of candidates is becoming as bad as the Democrats in some areas).
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J_Dawg983
11/04/18 12:20:47 AM
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Seems fine, most kids wont bother voting/registering to vote. Those that will can have their say.
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GMArcturus
11/04/18 12:37:39 AM
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Hop103 posted...
Bad idea, 16 years olds aren't capable of handling a huge responsibility like voting, that just invites the red (because the young people now don't even like the establishment Democrats, it's either GOP or Democratic Socialism which the latter is bad and the former while not inherently bad, the selection of candidates is becoming as bad as the Democrats in some areas).

Except democratic socialism is actually really good and you need to get your brain fixed.
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aDirtyShisno
11/04/18 12:41:01 AM
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Theyre not even considered people able to to take care of themselves until 18 and are the total responsibility of their parents. It just makes no sense since they cant even get to the poles without parental consent to leave the house. This would open up every single adult with a dependent up to being in violation of the constitution if they told their children they couldnt go out on election night...
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Zeus
11/04/18 12:55:44 AM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
Holy shit that's a dumb idea


Pretty much this.

dioxxys posted...
if anything it sould be risen

Why should teens who dont even know what its like to rent/own a home and work a regular job have the right to vote? They just earned the right to fuck and cant even drink alcohol or die for their country.


Also this.
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streamofthesky
11/04/18 1:18:05 AM
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Currently, someone who's 16-17 at the time of the prior election and now 18 could be drafted to fight in a war and die by a Congress and President he never was even allowed to vote against taking office.

So allowing them to vote? Fair, next.
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Blorfenburger
11/04/18 1:56:00 AM
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You are EVERYONE??!!?
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wolfy42
11/04/18 2:14:55 AM
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Hmmm, correct me if i'm wrong but I thought you had to be 18 in order to sign a contract.

How can you vote in such a case?

If you want to make the new age of maturity (legally) 16, that is fine, then everything that is currently allowed/possible at 18 would be switched to 16. Otherwise it's just silly, you can't pick and choose when to consider someone an adult.

Non-adults should not be able to vote. If you are going to let minors vote, then politicians will start riding unicorns and making minecraft flags.
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faramir77
11/04/18 2:47:57 AM
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Hop103 posted...
Bad idea, 16 years olds aren't capable of handling a huge responsibility like voting, that just invites the red (because the young people now don't even like the establishment Democrats, it's either GOP or Democratic Socialism which the latter is bad and the former while not inherently bad, the selection of candidates is becoming as bad as the Democrats in some areas).


Lmao
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Revelation34
11/04/18 2:55:15 AM
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16 year olds know nothing. Even a lot of 18 year olds don't.
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wolfy42
11/04/18 3:21:19 AM
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Btw, if you did make everyone an adult at 16, then that would be the legal age of consent as well, which I'm pretty sure most parents would not be happy with lol (even if their kids are already having sex anyway).

So yeah, you can't let people vote, who can't freaking consent to having sex yet.
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KaptainKiro
11/04/18 4:25:51 AM
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GMArcturus posted...
Except democratic socialism is actually really good


lmao there are ppl who actually think this
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BADoglick
11/04/18 7:24:53 AM
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The left knows that sixteen year olds are impressionable and easily manipulated, two reasons why they shouldn't be allowed to vote, but that's exactly why they want to push younger voting. They're more likely to be convinced from their favorite celebrities or from their public school indoctrination to vote blue.

I'm not a Republican or a Democrat but you have to be a moron if you can't see that this is their reasoning for this push. They don't care that the youth are politically active, they just want to expand their voter base. Whatever bs justification is given is simply that; bs
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GameLord113
11/04/18 8:42:10 AM
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aDirtyShisno posted...
It just makes no sense since they cant even get to the poles without parental consent to leave the house. This would open up every single adult with a dependent up to being in violation of the constitution if they told their children they couldnt go out on election night

It would probably be done through the schools and used as an educational tool.
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streamofthesky
11/04/18 10:09:24 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
16 year olds know nothing. Even a lot of 18 year olds don't.

To be fair, a lot of adults use Fox "News" or Facebook as their only news source, and thus know less than nothing (b/c a lot of what they "know" is bs).
But they're allowed to vote.
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Amuseum
11/04/18 10:13:58 AM
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"Educational" you mean "indoctrinational". When they are still learning about history and civics, is when they are easily influenced by their teachers' political leanings.

For that matter, the barrier to vote is so low that allows stupid people to vote. Lets get everybody to vote is how you ended up with Trump. Duh. You should need at least HS diploma or GED to vote.
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streamofthesky
11/04/18 10:31:28 AM
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Amuseum posted...
"Educational" you mean "indoctrinational". When they are still learning about history and civics, is when they are easily influenced by their teachers' political leanings.

Smells like bullshit....

Amuseum posted...
For that matter, the barrier to vote is so low that allows stupid people to vote. Lets get everybody to vote is how you ended up with Trump. Duh. You should need at least HS diploma or GED to vote.


https://guides.libraries.psu.edu/post-election-2016/voter-turnout

Around 138 million Americans voted in the 2016 presidential election. From Business Insider.

However, those 138 million Americans only make up 58.1% of our voting-eligible population (those American citizens over 18). From United States Elections Project.

While these numbers seem high, our voter percentage is not higher than the 2008 (61.6%) or 2012 (58.6%) election turnout. From United States Elections Project.


Doesn't seem like there were more voters in 2016 compared to the last few elections.
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VeeVees
11/04/18 10:49:43 AM
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If idiots are allowed to vote then teens should be allowed too.
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Revelation34
11/04/18 3:47:58 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
To be fair, a lot of adults use Fox "News" or Facebook as their only news source, and thus know less than nothing (b/c a lot of what they "know" is bs).
But they're allowed to vote.


Still know more than a 16 year old.
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OrangeDawn
11/04/18 4:03:17 PM
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Dont have a problem with this
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Tails 64
11/04/18 5:52:31 PM
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I basically just agreed with my parents about everything when I was sixteen, too young to formulate my own views. Give the teens some time to live independently before they vote.
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Zikten
11/05/18 1:30:53 PM
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this is a bad idea. I was VERY stupid when I was 16
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Behaviorism
11/05/18 3:36:48 PM
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Gotta love CE: "Even though all laws and politics affect you, you should have no say in it 16 year olds!"
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Zeus
11/05/18 3:44:17 PM
#28:


streamofthesky posted...
Currently, someone who's 16-17 at the time of the prior election and now 18 could be drafted to fight in a war and die by a Congress and President he never was even allowed to vote against taking office.

So allowing them to vote? Fair, next.


That's a stupid argument (considering that the draft is a non-issue and, by that logic, you should go even younger), next.

streamofthesky posted...
Revelation34 posted...
16 year olds know nothing. Even a lot of 18 year olds don't.

To be fair, a lot of adults use Fox "News" or Facebook as their only news source, and thus know less than nothing (b/c a lot of what they "know" is bs).
But they're allowed to vote.


While as always it's amusing that you solely highlight right-leaning media, adult low-information voters are still paying into the system and have a far greater economic stake in the system than teens (who largely rely on their parents).

Behaviorism posted...
Gotta love CE: "Even though all laws and politics affect you, you should have no say in it 16 year olds!"


1) Not sure why you're talking about CE on PotD, but I guess you got mixed up on which you were trolling today.

2) All laws and politics affect people of *all* ages in the US. Should you also allow 5 y/os to vote?
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Behaviorism
11/05/18 3:49:54 PM
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Zeus posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Currently, someone who's 16-17 at the time of the prior election and now 18 could be drafted to fight in a war and die by a Congress and President he never was even allowed to vote against taking office.

So allowing them to vote? Fair, next.


That's a stupid argument (considering that the draft is a non-issue and, by that logic, you should go even younger), next.

streamofthesky posted...
Revelation34 posted...
16 year olds know nothing. Even a lot of 18 year olds don't.

To be fair, a lot of adults use Fox "News" or Facebook as their only news source, and thus know less than nothing (b/c a lot of what they "know" is bs).
But they're allowed to vote.


While as always it's amusing that you solely highlight right-leaning media, adult low-information voters are still paying into the system and have a far greater economic stake in the system than teens (who largely rely on their parents).

Behaviorism posted...
Gotta love CE: "Even though all laws and politics affect you, you should have no say in it 16 year olds!"


1) Not sure why you're talking about CE on PotD, but I guess you got mixed up on which you were trolling today.

2) All laws and politics affect people of *all* ages in the US. Should you also allow 5 y/os to vote?

You're right. For some reason I thought I was CE. My mistake.
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streamofthesky
11/05/18 5:04:23 PM
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Zeus posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Currently, someone who's 16-17 at the time of the prior election and now 18 could be drafted to fight in a war and die by a Congress and President he never was even allowed to vote against taking office.

So allowing them to vote? Fair, next.


That's a stupid argument (considering that the draft is a non-issue and, by that logic, you should go even younger), next.

As long as the draft exists, it is an issue.

Zeus doesn't even know that members of the House of Representatives serve 2 year terms.
Not surprising, next.

Zeus posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Revelation34 posted...
16 year olds know nothing. Even a lot of 18 year olds don't.

To be fair, a lot of adults use Fox "News" or Facebook as their only news source, and thus know less than nothing (b/c a lot of what they "know" is bs).
But they're allowed to vote.


While as always it's amusing that you solely highlight right-leaning media, adult low-information voters are still paying into the system and have a far greater economic stake in the system than teens (who largely rely on their parents).

Facebook is right-leaning now?
Some teens have jobs and pay taxes, not that paying taxes is even a requirement to vote anyway.
Teens will be around longer than the adults and will have to deal with the ever-growing pile of debt those adults saddle them with, so yeah, I think they do have an economic stake in it.
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Trancer Hunter
11/05/18 5:21:19 PM
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dioxxys posted...
if anything it sould be risen

Why should teens who dont even know what its like to rent/own a home and work a regular job have the right to vote? They just earned the right to fuck and cant even drink alcohol or die for their country.


agree with this.
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AllstarSniper32
11/05/18 5:40:43 PM
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I'm glad they are lowering the age and hope more cities/states follow suit.
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Revelation34
11/05/18 6:47:02 PM
#33:


streamofthesky posted...
Facebook is right-leaning now?
Some teens have jobs and pay taxes, not that paying taxes is even a requirement to vote anyway.
Teens will be around longer than the adults and will have to deal with the ever-growing pile of debt those adults saddle them with, so yeah, I think they do have an economic stake in it.


Yeah those 16 year olds will be around far longer than those 18 year olds.
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Zareth
11/05/18 6:49:44 PM
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Cool. Let me know when they actually get representation in the government.
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streamofthesky
11/05/18 6:55:12 PM
#35:


Revelation34 posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Facebook is right-leaning now?
Some teens have jobs and pay taxes, not that paying taxes is even a requirement to vote anyway.
Teens will be around longer than the adults and will have to deal with the ever-growing pile of debt those adults saddle them with, so yeah, I think they do have an economic stake in it.


Yeah those 16 year olds will be around far longer than those 18 year olds.


Here, allow me to bold the actual comparison, to help you with your poor eyesight:

streamofthesky posted...
Zeus posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Revelation34 posted...
16 year olds know nothing. Even a lot of 18 year olds don't.

To be fair, a lot of adults use Fox "News" or Facebook as their only news source, and thus know less than nothing (b/c a lot of what they "know" is bs).
But they're allowed to vote.


While as always it's amusing that you solely highlight right-leaning media, adult low-information voters are still paying into the system and have a far greater economic stake in the system than teens (who largely rely on their parents).

Facebook is right-leaning now?
Some teens have jobs and pay taxes, not that paying taxes is even a requirement to vote anyway.
Teens will be around longer than the adults and will have to deal with the ever-growing pile of debt those adults saddle them with, so yeah, I think they do have an economic stake in it.


16 year olds compared to adult low-information voters. Which could be any age above 17.

Aren't you glad I clarified that for you? You're welcome!
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Zareth
11/05/18 7:02:48 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Facebook is right-leaning now?

Yeah. The Russians paid Mark Zuckerburg to run anti-Hillary ads to brainwash white men into being Trumpsters.
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TheCyborgNinja
11/05/18 7:32:03 PM
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May as well. They can't be any worse than some dimwitted hillbilly who happened to live past 18.
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Zeus
11/05/18 9:44:00 PM
#38:


streamofthesky posted...
As long as the draft exists, it is an issue.


The draft effectively doesn't exist.

streamofthesky posted...
Zeus doesn't even know that members of the House of Representatives serve 2 year terms.
Not surprising, next.


Stream doesn't even know that senators serve 6 year terms, presidents serve 4 year terms, and wars don't just start up and end in 2 fucking years. I guess Stream wasn't alive for the 10 years or so we were in Iraq. Not surprising, next.

streamofthesky posted...
Some teens have jobs and pay taxes,


...they aren't supporting themselves, ergo less of an economic stake.

streamofthesky posted...
not that paying taxes is even a requirement to vote anyway.


Given that the burden of these decisions falls on taxpayers, it really should be.

streamofthesky posted...
Teens will be around longer than the adults and will have to deal with the ever-growing pile of debt those adults saddle them with, so yeah, I think they do have an economic stake in it.


Which can't wait the 5 years between age 13 to 18? Not to mention that those same conditions are more true of 5 y/os than 16 y/os, so why aren't you pushing for 5 y/os to vote?
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Zeus
11/05/18 9:44:04 PM
#39:


Trancer Hunter posted...
dioxxys posted...
if anything it sould be risen

Why should teens who dont even know what its like to rent/own a home and work a regular job have the right to vote? They just earned the right to fuck and cant even drink alcohol or die for their country.


agree with this.


Yes, especially since the age of maturation has been steadily rising. A 16 y/o two hundred years ago had more responsibility than most 20 y/os today.

AllstarSniper32 posted...
I'm glad they are lowering the age and hope more cities/states follow suit.


They aren't. They're considering it, which is almost meaningless.
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AllstarSniper32
11/07/18 6:18:25 PM
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Zeus posted...
AllstarSniper32 posted...
I'm glad they are lowering the age and hope more cities/states follow suit.

They aren't. They're considering it, which is almost meaningless.

I'm responding solely to the topic title, which says they are. Thus, I'm glad they are.
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Revelation34
11/07/18 6:24:45 PM
#41:


AllstarSniper32 posted...
I'm responding solely to the topic title, which says they are. Thus, I'm glad they are.


Well good thing the thread title is wrong then.
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