Poll of the Day > fuck jim butcher.

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fuck him
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Yeah fuck that piece of shit

Who is he
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Lol, someone saw my post in the other topic, lol.
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Mead posted...

Yeah fuck that piece of shit

Who is he

the author of the dresden files book series

WhiskeyDisk posted...

Lol, someone saw my post in the other topic, lol.

what?
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helIy posted...

what?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/77164420/911708289

Oddly coincidental...
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discworld sucks so why would i go into a topic about it

no, this is me searching for any news on a next fucking book and finding none, but then discovering that this asshole can go on book signing tours out the ass for his shitty second short story book (that has ass all good stories in it) but not publish the next dresden book when the deadline for it was FOUR FUCKING YEARS AGO
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I'm still only eight books into Dresden so I don't care that the new one hasn't come out.

Come to think of it, I started reading Dresden a month after the last one came out, maybe he's waiting for me to catch up?

helIy posted...

discworld sucks so why would i go into a topic about it

no, this is me searching for any news on a next fucking book and finding none, but then discovering that this asshole can go on book signing tours out the ass for his shitty second short story book (that has ass all good stories in it) but not publish the next dresden book when the deadline for it was FOUR FUCKING YEARS AGO

You're wrong about Discworld. That being said, I actually started reading Dresden based on your recommendation despite your terrible opinions in general.

He just got married. He's probably starting a family. You really need to calm the calamity in your mammaries about the BAT. I want it too, don't get me wrong...but if I were betting on Jim dying before the next book vs GRRM dying before the next ASoFaI book...I know who the smart money is on. Calm the fuck down Helly, I know no one has ever told you that before, but seriously, calm the fuck down man.
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you don't understand.

all that stuff took place after the deadline for the next book.

after it.

nothing happened beforehand that should have caused this.

and who the fuck cares if he just got married? he's been married before. he also moved.

none of which should have affected the release of the book for multiple years.

if sanderson can release eleven billion books in the time it takes butcher to release one, there's a clear obvious issue here, and it's one that has to do with the rumor that jim absolutely hates writing dresden.
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and discworld is pretty fuckin terrible, lets be real here
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Zamonia is cool. Maybe you should visit and stop thinking about poking the magical vampire humper.
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Ok Helly, if we're going there...I'm not conceding the point about Discworld being bad. I'll just write it off to you not getting British dry wit. I doubt that Monty Python or HHGG does anything for you either, fine.

That being said, Jim *has* complained more than once about something he wrote originally as a lark to annoy a professor of his has gotten legs of its own. I'll give you that much, he very well may be an author that has grown to hate his creation...but it's also his meal ticket. Codex isn't going to happen any more than "fetch" because nobody gives a shit about codex, as much as he wished people would care about it.

That being said, it's the same way I look at Stanhope retiring from stand-up. It'll hold out until he needs a paycheck, then he'll be back on tour, out of retirement for the 5th or 6th time. All we can do is wait for it...and each time it's going to get more ridiculous than the last time. I'd rather Jim write what he wants when he wants than him rushing things and ending up painting himself into a corner like he has two or 3 times already.
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His short story collection has a Dresden story in it. I read his new book it was an interesting concept but read a bit to YA for me.
Oddly enough I just order the diskworld books about 5 minutes ago.

WhiskeyDisk posted...

Ok Helly, if we're going there...I'm not conceding the point about Discworld being bad. I'll just write it off to you not getting British dry wit. I doubt that Monty Python or HHGG does anything for you either, fine.

It's helly. He's built to be categorically wrong about literally everything because he comes from a parallel, opposite universe. Nothing you say is going to change his mind, because books being good will just make him hate them more.

Which is why it makes perfect sense that he's clearly obsessed with the Dresden novels, because those books are low-rent shit. They're pretty much one notch above teen urban fantasy, and mostly came across like a neckbeard who discovered the World of Darkness games in college and decided to write off-brand fanfiction about them.


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homie

i read janet evanovich novels like they're ambrosia. dayrna jones releases a new book and i am all over that shit. sanderson? yeah i got his number. koontz? just give it to me because it's gonna happen. hill? see koontz.

i'm not going to read some boring ass hoity toity book because it's "sophisticated"

no, i'm going to call that book what it is, a boring piece of shit, and read something actually entertaining

and pratchett? all of his books are stupid boring. same with that other terry, terry goodkind. holy shit are the sword of truth books bad.

and that's not to say i love everything butcher, either. codex alera is shit, and that other series he did that i don't even remember the name of was also shit.
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Again? How many times are we going to see complaints about this?

ParanoidObsessive posted...

WhiskeyDisk posted...

Ok Helly, if we're going there...I'm not conceding the point about Discworld being bad. I'll just write it off to you not getting British dry wit. I doubt that Monty Python or HHGG does anything for you either, fine.

It's helly. He's built to be categorically wrong about literally everything because he comes from a parallel, opposite universe. Nothing you say is going to change his mind, because books being good will just make him hate them more.

Which is why it makes perfect sense that he's clearly obsessed with the Dresden novels, because those books are low-rent shit. They're pretty much one notch above teen urban fantasy, and mostly came across like a neckbeard who discovered the World of Darkness games in college and decided to write off-brand fanfiction about them.

tbh, not sure why he can't be happy with Dresden fanfiction.
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the cinder spires, that's the other series

i had to look it up
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The Cider Spires literally only has 1 book and it's on par with the first Dresden book, which was very readable but not great.

I really like Rowl and the cats.

helIy posted...

i read janet evanovich novels like they're ambrosia. dayrna jones releases a new book and i am all over that shit. sanderson? yeah i got his number.

You're not really defending yourself there. If anything, you're just proving my point.

I'd give you Koontz, but he can be pretty hit or miss, and sometimes he just feels like a lame substitute for Stephen King.


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i got real tired of king. his books are too long and it just feels very obviously padded. i understand what he's trying to do, but it's not something i want to read every time i read his books.

dreamcatcher is my favorite king book, and he could have removed half the stuff in the book and it wouldn't have changed much of anything, and that's something i feel you could do with all of his books.

it's why i prefer his son over him, because his son seems to understand that, sort of, because the fireman was just kinda not the best.

and my rabid desire for the next dresden book also extends towards the 3rd book in koontz moonlit bay trilogy, but considering the last book in that series was 19 years ago, i've given up on it.

there was this recently:

In an interview at the end of 2017, Koontz says that he intends to finish Ride the Storm once he finishes the 7th book in his Jane Hawk series. [3]

but the rest:

According to a January 14, 2000, interview with Bookreporter.com, Dean Koontz was quoted as saying "I'm half way through Ride the Storm, the third Christopher Snow story, but another book will appear between False Memory and Ride."

As of 2003, Koontz was still "halfway through" Ride the Storm.[1]

In a Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) pamphlet delivered with Koontz' official email newsletter "Useless News", Koontz writes: "The third Chris Snow novel after FEAR NOTHING and SEIZE THE NIGHT will be written, God willing, but has been delayed because other ideas demand attention first. RIDE THE STORM, the third Snow, has been cooking for a long time, but it's a delicate dish to develop."[citation needed]

As of 2018, the FAQ on Koontz' website says that "there will be the third Chris Snow book; you can count on it, if I live long enough."

outweigh that.
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Honestly, I've come around to King. He is entertaining and he writes to entertain. He has a lot of purple prose, but he tells a good story.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

WhiskeyDisk posted...

Ok Helly, if we're going there...I'm not conceding the point about Discworld being bad. I'll just write it off to you not getting British dry wit. I doubt that Monty Python or HHGG does anything for you either, fine.

It's helly. He's built to be categorically wrong about literally everything because he comes from a parallel, opposite universe. Nothing you say is going to change his mind, because books being good will just make him hate them more.

Which is why it makes perfect sense that he's clearly obsessed with the Dresden novels, because those books are low-rent shit. They're pretty much one notch above teen urban fantasy, and mostly came across like a neckbeard who discovered the World of Darkness games in college and decided to write off-brand fanfiction about them.

You'll get no argument from me about Helly often having objectively terrible opinions, but I have to disagree with you about Dresden. I'm not saying they're all great, but I would argue that almost a dozen of them are pretty solid novels, at least until the whole chichen itza thing...then it starts going off the rails...but let's be honest, dragonlance wasn't any better a dozen installments in, just saying and that had two writers ffs.
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WhiskeyDisk posted...

but let's be honest, dragonlance wasn't any better a dozen installments in, just saying and that had two writers ffs.

That's basically what I said in the other topic.

But there, I'm not even sure I'd say Dragonlance started out great, as much as a lot of people loved it and obsessed over Raistlin. I mostly just saw the early books as being passable fantasy with strong LotR influences, and a major character of questionable morals who was striking to an audience who was mostly used to reading fantasy fiction where the heroes were always goody two-shoes. But the earlier books were definitely better than the later ones, especially the ones written by different authors.


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ParanoidObsessive posted...

WhiskeyDisk posted...

but let's be honest, dragonlance wasn't any better a dozen installments in, just saying and that had two writers ffs.

That's basically what I said in the other topic.

But there, I'm not even sure I'd say Dragonlance started out great, as much as a lot of people loved it and obsessed over Raistlin. I mostly just saw the early books as being passable fantasy with strong LotR influences, and a major character of questionable morals who was striking to an audience who was mostly used to reading fantasy fiction where the heroes were always goody two-shoes. But the earlier books were definitely better than the later ones, especially the ones written by different authors.

Fair enough and yeah, I didn't see the other post until a few minutes ago.

I loved the duality with Raistlin and Caramon, but yeah, the whole Fistandantilus arc started reading like bad fanfic halfway thru which is never a good sign if the original authors are behind it.
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polka will never die, dammit.
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Hey Dragonlance had Tas as well don't forget!!

And the Dresden books are good, and I would rather him keep righting good books in the series then go the whole Laurrel K Hamilton path and just write crap, worse crap, erotic crap (that is worse then 50 shades) etc.

Also helly, did you hear there is a new TV show on the way, at first he denied it but it was annouced officially recently.

Finally these authors are filthy freaking rich guys. If you were filthy freaking rich like them, I doubt you would spend the time and effort to write books at all....you would be too busy partying/traveling etc (even without a new wife etc). Dude also takes time to see fans, do signings etc, and did just release a short story collection as well.

Not saying he's a saint, but seriously, he doesn't OWE us anymore books. We should just be glad that a dude that has made at least 10 mill (and this was awhile ago) is still writing books. Dude has other projects he is working on, and supposedly (from things he has said) enjoys more. He just knows he has a ton of fans of Dresden so he keeps making them. He seems, over all, to be a pretty cool guy.
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wolfy42 posted...

Also helly, did you hear there is a new TV show on the way, at first he denied it but it was annouced officially recentl

tbh, I was apparently one of the few people to enjoy the original show.
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Zeus posted...

wolfy42 posted...

Also helly, did you hear there is a new TV show on the way, at first he denied it but it was annouced officially recentl

tbh, I was apparently one of the few people to enjoy the original show.

It wasn't terrible, but there was so much executive meddling it might as well have not been Dresden-Branded.
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Maybe Butcher lost the passion for the series.

If we get anymore books out of him maybe theyll be bad because he is just forcing himself to write them.

Speaking of Sanderson though, its been thirteen years and he STILL hasnt written the sequel to Elantris.

dioxxys posted...

Maybe Butcher lost the passion for the series.

If we get anymore books out of him maybe theyll be bad because he is just forcing himself to write them.

Speaking of Sanderson though, its been thirteen years and he STILL hasnt written the sequel to Elantris.

I don't think he did. I think he took on more projects and wants to try himself in other genres. He has a plan for Dresden so I think we'll get more.

I mean, I have faith we'll eventually get the BAT, but remember that Jim hasn't said anything *past* that. Even if he's grown to resent Dresden, it's still his meal ticket and if his other works are any indication, he's got fuck all to work with past that. Everything post-chichen itza has been mez a mez, so be careful what you wish for.
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his plan for dresden was 20 books, and then an ending trilogy where he said he would explain Hells bells, stars and stones, and some other phrase, for some reason
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helIy posted...

and some other phrase

Empty Night.
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I liked the original series and it was one of the things keeping me watching arrow for awhile as well. They didn't do alot of things right, but it was still a cool show.

He has tons of meal tickets now, his original books are out in audio versions and many people are buying them again. Now he is going to have another show, and they usually pay quite well (especially for a series so popular). We need more info on the show to really see how much he will make, but yeah, it's not gonna be peanuts at this point.

I doubt he cares much about the money at all tbh, after a certain point it just doesn't matter. I was looking at the numbers for the first run of his books, and came up with at least 10 mill JUST from the books (forget about the comics, the first tv series etc). Can't know exactly what he is worth (seems to be really good at hiding it as you can tell most peoples net worth pretty easy), but yeah....he isn't living book to book at this point for sure.

Personally I think it's all besides the point as his new wife Kitty Krell is a huge dresden fan and cosplayer. I highly doubt he is going to axe the series any time soon, unless he ends up getting a divorce, and consider he looks REALLY happy....I don't think that is gonna happen anytime soon.

Guy has a new very hot and pretty wife, who obviously loves his work AND is a cosplayer. He has tons of money, and has something he loves doing that makes other people happy. It looks at least from the outside like his life is rocking right now, so I say we all have patience and let him bask in the glow for a bit. If I married someone that pretty who had similar interests and considered herself a big nerd, I doubt I would spend much time doing anything that didn't involve her.
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I'm eagerly awaiting the next Dresden files book as well.

But, if Jimbo is delaying the release to specifically troll helly, I'd be ok if he never released it.
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