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VandorLee
11/01/18 8:29:03 PM
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Parasite eve 2 and Chrono cross.

I think theyre both good games but bad sequels. I like pe2 and really like cc but both 1st games were much better imo.
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GameGodOfAll
11/01/18 8:30:07 PM
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MGSV

It IS a good game, but it's also TRASH.
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YukihoHagiwara
11/01/18 8:31:28 PM
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wait I misread the topic title
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specialkid8
11/01/18 8:34:57 PM
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RE4. Apart from having Leon and Ada in it it has about as much to do with RE as Mario Party 5 does.

Also, Farcry 2. One of my favorite games of all time but I'm still upset we'll never get another Farcry 1 (apart from the 3 ports and also Crysis).
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GameGodOfAll
11/01/18 8:35:24 PM
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RE4. Apart from having Leon and Ada in it it has about as much to do with RE as Mario Party 5 does.

Mario Party 5 is more of a horror game.
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sabin017
11/03/18 1:15:02 AM
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Pretty much the Saint's Row series.
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TheMarthKoopa
11/03/18 1:15:51 AM
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PlanetSide 2
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vocedelmorte
11/03/18 1:16:41 AM
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Wow. Parasite Eve 2 >>>>>>>1
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DocileOrangeCup
11/03/18 1:16:55 AM
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Darmik
11/03/18 1:17:46 AM
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Hitman Absolution

It was what Splinter Cell Conviction should have been.
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electricbugs2
11/03/18 1:19:02 AM
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Oblivion
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DoomSwell
11/03/18 1:34:38 AM
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Parasite Eve 3 was a lot of fun... but it wasn't a Parasite Eve.
A lot of people might say Star Tropics 2 is a bad sequel but I like it better than the first.
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VandorLee
11/03/18 8:20:04 PM
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vocedelmorte posted...
Wow. Parasite Eve 2 >>>>>>>1


Ive never heard anyone with this opinion. But its good to have unique opinions.
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Pancake
11/03/18 8:32:00 PM
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i could see this applied to dark souls 2.

actually, i think dark souls 2 did a lot of things better than 1; the PVP is much better, to start. it isn't all about backstabs until both sides can execute/defend them. the tech isn't centered almost entirely around fishing for them or defending against them or chaining them. no hornet ring. i've only ever scored like 3 one-shots in dark souls 2, running pure melee, over something like 3k hours.

they designed things for PVP in 2 and it really shows.
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Nash Highwind
11/03/18 8:40:04 PM
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Suikoden IV
IV was just a downgrade in a lot of ways and felt disconnected from all of the other games. It still was pretty fun overall though.

Suikoden Tierkreis could also fall into this but it is a spin off and not a sequel.
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EndOfDiscOne
11/03/18 8:41:36 PM
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Super Paper Mario
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Tyranthraxus
11/03/18 8:43:47 PM
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Deus Ex: Invisible War
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Aressar
11/03/18 8:46:26 PM
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Fallout 3
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VandorLee
11/03/18 9:27:37 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Deus Ex: Invisible War


I love the game but its pretty bad....
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Hexenherz
11/03/18 9:35:31 PM
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VandorLee posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Deus Ex: Invisible War


I love the game but its pretty bad....


From a technical performance standpoint it wasn't the best and the graphics are a little awkward but it's still a lot better than the newer crap.
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HippopotamusRex
11/03/18 9:39:07 PM
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ActRaiser 2
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VandorLee
11/03/18 9:50:42 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
VandorLee posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Deus Ex: Invisible War


I love the game but its pretty bad....


From a technical performance standpoint it wasn't the best and the graphics are a little awkward but it's still a lot better than the newer crap.


The electric on melee weapons skill and most of the hidden weapons were awesome. I think running silent was a passive as well. The game really made you strong.
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RoboLaserGandhi
11/03/18 9:51:50 PM
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Dark Souls 2
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DeathDeathSong
11/03/18 9:52:04 PM
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the gameplay of bioshock 2 was overall much better and more fun than the first but the story is just one big plot hole and doesnt make any sense
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SH_expert44
11/03/18 9:54:00 PM
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Wild Arms XF
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Calwings
11/03/18 9:54:49 PM
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Soul Calibur 5

Great game due to the fun and balanced gameplay, the great online netcode, and the amazing character creation mode. Bad sequel due to the drastic roster changes (thanks to a 17-year time skip leading to some fan favorites being replaced by "successors" to their styles or just being omitted altogether) and shortage of story content.
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WilliamPorygon
11/03/18 9:58:23 PM
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Kitt
11/03/18 10:03:50 PM
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Max Payne 3. Great gameplay & visuals, but an awful sequel to the original Max Payne duology narratively.

I couldn't disagree more.

We've had two games doing the noir, New York style. It was smart of Rockstar to push the series into another direction while remaining faithful and familiar with the original games and Max as a character, especially considering the time between it and the last games.
Plus, narratively, it nicely covers the transition between where Max is now and what caused him to leave New York in the first place.
Easily my favorite of the three games on all fronts.
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OmegaShinkai
11/03/18 10:08:33 PM
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Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria

where's my Hrist game reeeeeee
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DevsBro
11/03/18 10:24:24 PM
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Ass Creed II.

It stripped itself of the information gathering, planning, cool blending events and freedom that made AC1 so unique.

It was also a way better game.
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NibeIungsnarf
11/03/18 10:26:05 PM
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Final Fantasy X-2
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vocedelmorte
11/03/18 10:33:19 PM
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VandorLee posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
Wow. Parasite Eve 2 >>>>>>>1


Ive never heard anyone with this opinion. But its good to have unique opinions.

Really?? I loved PE2 , but i just couldn't get into PE after it
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Mareen
11/03/18 10:33:58 PM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
GameGodOfAll posted...
MGSV
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Hexenherz
11/03/18 10:37:17 PM
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DevsBro posted...
Ass Creed II.

It stripped itself of the information gathering, planning, cool blending events and freedom that made AC1 so unique.

It was also a way better game.

So I'm planning on playing through all the AC games just because I loved and just recently beat Origins, and 1 is such a slog.

I really can't imagine how 2 is despite everyone saying it's better and cuts out a lot of the repetitive crap of 1.
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RE_expert44
11/03/18 10:38:26 PM
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vocedelmorte posted...
VandorLee posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
Wow. Parasite Eve 2 >>>>>>>1


Ive never heard anyone with this opinion. But its good to have unique opinions.

Really?? I loved PE2 , but i just couldn't get into PE after it

PE1 just cant compare to PE2 IMO. Then again PE2 is much more like Resident Evil so that has something to do with it
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vocedelmorte
11/03/18 10:40:43 PM
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RE_expert44 posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
VandorLee posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
Wow. Parasite Eve 2 >>>>>>>1


Ive never heard anyone with this opinion. But its good to have unique opinions.

Really?? I loved PE2 , but i just couldn't get into PE after it

PE1 just cant compare to PE2 IMO. Then again PE2 is much more like Resident Evil so that has something to do with it

Maybe. Tbh your opinion is also unique to me, PE2 was superior both graphically and in gameplay and i never heard anyone saying that PE is better. But to each their own
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Muffinz0rz
11/03/18 10:41:42 PM
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Xenoblade Chronicles X
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TheY2AProblem
11/03/18 10:50:15 PM
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Agree with the Chrono Cross, like what did it have to do with Chrono Trigger. It was like making it a sequel to Chrono Trigger was an after thought. Dont get me wrong, it was a great game but a shit sequel. I expect most people have given you weird looks when you say that.

I get some pretty weird looks when I tell people that The Godfather Part 3 is a good movie on its own. But seeing it through the lense of a Godfather movie, its shit. And thats how most people view it. But if I watch it on its own merits, without taking into consideration that it is a Godfather movie, I do think that it is better than what most people say.
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DevsBro
11/03/18 10:53:01 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
DevsBro posted...
Ass Creed II.

It stripped itself of the information gathering, planning, cool blending events and freedom that made AC1 so unique.

It was also a way better game.

So I'm planning on playing through all the AC games just because I loved and just recently beat Origins, and 1 is such a slog.

I really can't imagine how 2 is despite everyone saying it's better and cuts out a lot of the repetitive crap of 1.

II is one of the best games ever.
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UnholyMudcrab
11/03/18 10:54:40 PM
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Assassin's Creed II was everything a sequel should be. Expand what's good, fix or remove what's bad, and increase the scale
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DevsBro
11/03/18 10:58:28 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Assassin's Creed II was everything a sequel should be. Expand what's good, fix or remove what's bad, and increase the scale

Yep.

Thing is, with AC1, it was super cool but ultimately what made it unique also made it annoying. So even though the sequel is more "classic video game" in terms of its dynamics it's a much better game as a result.
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Garioshi
11/03/18 10:59:24 PM
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GameGodOfAll posted...
Mario Party 5 is more of a horror game.

This, but unironically.

On topic, Resident Evil 6.
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Hexenherz
11/04/18 12:13:52 AM
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Well I just finished AC1 tonight, so I'm excited to maybe start 2 tomorrow depending on what the plans are around this house.
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masticatingman
11/04/18 12:14:21 AM
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Banjo Tooie just in the sense that it seemed extremely sprawling compared to Banjo Kazooie, which was fairly compact and quick paced.

Still a great game, but it took the backtracking seen in BK to absurdist levels.
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VandorLee
11/04/18 12:22:30 AM
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RE_expert44 posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
VandorLee posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
Wow. Parasite Eve 2 >>>>>>>1


Ive never heard anyone with this opinion. But its good to have unique opinions.

Really?? I loved PE2 , but i just couldn't get into PE after it

PE1 just cant compare to PE2 IMO. Then again PE2 is much more like Resident Evil so that has something to do with it


Exactly, PE fans hated 2 because they loved the action rpg aspect and it was reduced to an RE clone.

I rarely hear anyone liking 2 at all much less more. Maybe ill make a poll question to get a consensus. Maybe it changed over the years.

The story was amazing in 1 and its complete garbage in 2.....
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RoboLaserGandhi
11/04/18 9:25:40 AM
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Halo 5's campaign

The actual gameplay is probably the best since 3, but the story...MAN they fucked that up. They threw away literally everything Halo 4 had set up for it in the first two hours, and it wasn't even a good story they replaced it with. They hired some hack comic book writer and it shows. It's like a shitty side story that belongs in some episodic TV series, not a story that belongs in a AAA video game series that comes once every 3 years.
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