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Oh, I figured Gau was a given when you mentioned doing stuff on the Veldt.
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StartTheMachine posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

StartTheMachine posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

When this dungeon is completed there's an item that appears in Doma Castle. Just letting you know so you dont miss it

Are you talking about the "inside Cyan's soul" part of Doma Castle, or afterwards?

Afterwards, in a pretty obvious area. It's not missable permanently or anything

I guess you just meant the Esper in the King's Room? Yeah, that was like the most obvious pickup ever. Thanks though! They pretty clearly show it in the scene with Cyan and his wife/kids.

Man, that was some heartwrenching stuff. Cyan has more than redeemed himself for his creepy behavior earlier, and with greater context, it does all make a lot more sense now.

Oh yeah. Oopsies. Just wanted to make sure you got my favorite summon, lol
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Should I level up magic or vigor for Cyan's SwordTech ability?

1, 4, and 7 inflict physical damage. 2, 5, and 6 inflict magical damage. I would favor Vigor, as Cyan's probably going to use Quadra Slam/Slice whenever he has time and Dispatch when he doesn't.
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Most of Cyan's swordtechs are based on Vigor.
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mnkboy907 posted...

Oh, I figured Gau was a given when you mentioned doing stuff on the Veldt.

Still haven't encountered him! Actually thought he might appear in the wild, like before, while grinding on the Veldt, but that didn't seem to be the case. His father just says something about needing a repair man and that he hasn't seen one in a while. I'll figure it out soon, I'm sure!

not really missing gau though so ehhhhh

benjamin3740 posted...

StartTheMachine posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

StartTheMachine posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

When this dungeon is completed there's an item that appears in Doma Castle. Just letting you know so you dont miss it

Are you talking about the "inside Cyan's soul" part of Doma Castle, or afterwards?

Afterwards, in a pretty obvious area. It's not missable permanently or anything

I guess you just meant the Esper in the King's Room? Yeah, that was like the most obvious pickup ever. Thanks though! They pretty clearly show it in the scene with Cyan and his wife/kids.

Man, that was some heartwrenching stuff. Cyan has more than redeemed himself for his creepy behavior earlier, and with greater context, it does all make a lot more sense now.

Oh yeah. Oopsies. Just wanted to make sure you got my favorite summon, lol

Oh, cool to know that it's a neat summon! I've barely hardly really almost not at all actually summoned the Espers. I just checked Alexander out, and I can indeed dig it.

Another question: is the strength of Esper summons affected by the magic power of the summoner?
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Also, I just realized I have almost 400,000 GP.

dear lord
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Yes, summons are based on magic power.
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I may be wrong, since as I said I don't remember the technical aspects of this game, but you may need a 3-person or fewer party for Gau. I think he will only appear if he can insert himself directly in the party.
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Eerieka posted...

I may be wrong, since as I said I don't remember the technical aspects of this game, but you may need a 3-person or fewer party for Gau. I think he will only appear if he can insert himself directly in the party.

I think you're right. So he does still show up on the Veldt then, eh? Yeah, there was a group in the cave hideout that Shadow was injured at that said something about "him" only showing up if there are 3 or fewer people, and I assumed they were talking about Shadow and then kind of forgot all about it. Thanks for the reminder!

Also just went back to Narshe real quick to get that Moogle Charm relic. So it looks like only Mog can equip this, huh? Any other member-specific relics like this later in the game?

I also took literally zero damage in Narshe because I can one shot everything at this point lol
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You're probably never gonna figure out how to re-recruit Shadow, so I'll just tell you it has something to do with the Coliseum in the northwest.

Also, while you're there, bet the Aura.
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Well, that wasn't really a hint at all since the game already told me he headed to the Colosseum >_> I did not, however, know its location, so just knowing that it's in the Northwest helps. But I definitely don't want any more help!

I'll remember that Aura tidbit as well. Going to try and actually go to bed early tonight, so just going to get a little bit more time in with the game for now. Today was more of a grinding day -- tomorrow will probably be an all out plot progression day.
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Pffft. Beat Doom Gaze on my second go with him...what a joke. If you're gonna make a boss with non-regenerative HP between battles, at least give him some crazy high HP stats!
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Logience posted...

You're probably never gonna figure out how to re-recruit Shadow, so I'll just tell you it has something to do with the Coliseum in the northwest.

Also, while you're there, bet the Aura.

Wait, so what was supposed to be so hard about figuring out how get Shadow back, exactly? I'm guessing I did the correct thing in wagering the Striker weapon in the Colosseum. I did that first try, because an NPC there made it pretty obvious that was what to do, and voila! My only trouble was finding the damned Colosseum in the first place, hah.

But Shadow says he wants to conquer everyone there, so I'm going to take that to heart and start my next playthrough tomorrow with some good ol' one-on-one Colosseum battles.
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GoGo is the last character you're missing.

Bum Rush is sabins ultimate tech.
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goddammit I mentioned earlier that I consider even character names to be spoilers, but oh well

And in that case, I definitely don't think I have Bum Rush. But my boy Sabin is doing like 8k damage a hit (on enemies with bad defense) now with 110+ vigor stats, a Genji Glove, and a Hyper Wrist equipped. I also got a second Genji Glove I should probably equip on somebody one of these days.
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Oh my bad. I didnt see that or i wouldnt have mentioned it.
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It's all good. Hopefully Gogo is nothing like what I'm expecting. I mean, it could be some Asian chick or it could be another entirely nonsensical party member like my sasquatch and moogle friends, who knows!
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It's something alright, lol
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What happened to

Going to try and actually go to bed early tonight

?
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Logience posted...

Going to try and actually go to bed early tonight

you shut it
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Adlai Stevenson
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Gogo is tricky to find on your own, but there's an NPC in one of the towns I haven't seen you mention going to in the WoR yet that hints at what to do.
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StartTheMachine posted...

It's all good. Hopefully Gogo is nothing like what I'm expecting. I mean, it could be some Asian chick or it could be another entirely nonsensical party member like my sasquatch and moogle friends, who knows!

This post is going to age very well.

Also both Sabin and Strago have ultimate moves that get unlocked if you do quests with them. Sabin's is super quick. Strago not that much. They are worth seeing though.

I guess the hint is that both quests are related to their stories.

Grand Kirby posted...

Adlai Stevenson

Oh wow, I forgot about that meme. That was a flashback down memory lane.
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ZeldaTPLink posted...

Also both Sabin and Strago have ultimate moves that get unlocked if you do quests with them. Sabin's is super quick. Strago not that much. They are worth seeing though.

So kind of like Cyan's quest upgrading his Sword Tech ability to the fullest? That and the Esper seemed to be the only rewards for that quest. I was surprised that was all optional, if it indeed was, because it was so great.
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Yeah pretty much.

I think a theme of the WoR is that it tries to develop (almost) all characters. Every character gets a dungeon or a quest related to them.

Also everything after you get the ship is optional. You could go straight to Kefka's Tower and beat the game now.

FF6 is like one of the original open-world RPGs.

For the record, everything after you get the airship is technically optional.
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Pretty much, all you need to beat the game is Celes, Edgar and Setzer.
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and a lot of luck or grinding if you want to do beat it right after you get the airship.
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So, how's going so far, TC?
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It is going well! Sorry, I did not want to post any more personal stuff in this topic and was kind of depressed yesterday; I tried playing some of the game and quit after like 45 minutes. But today I'm feeling much better and have been playing for hours and hours. So update time!

Well, I've just finally figured out the "proper path," I believe, that will inevitably lead me to Kefka's Tower (and if I'm wrong, please don't tell me and let me find out myself). I learned from some NPC to talk to the Emperor Gestahl portrait in Owzer's House, in Jidoor, twice. I did that and received his letter, which says to find the location of mountains in the shape of a star. I also happened to talk to Gau's father (and whoaaa, we'll get to his story) who apparently responds to the letter for some reason, but he basically just tells you the same thing. So right now, I have just found the spot on the map that the letter was referring to, landed my airship, and assembled my two teams. But here's an update of some of the cool things I have done in the many hours prior:

- Started off trying to do more at the Colosseum, as promised, and lmao that's not going to happen. Turns out that Chupon guy just sneezes you right out the way every time. This was getting old, so I even went and googled how to block sneezes and -- would you look at that -- you can't! Looks like I have to come back with some super OP character that can somehow take him out before getting sneezed.

- Went to the Auction House with almost 500k GP to buy a bunch of stuff. Acquired two Espers that were pretty damn cheap that I wish I'd gotten earlier -- Golem and ZoneSeeker -- and also an extra Hero Ring. I thiiink that was it? Oh nope, I got an extra Zephyr Cape too. After that, I just kept getting that "Imp Robot" thing spawning in the auction, so it doesn't seem like there's anything else to get there. It was right after this that I did the Emperor Gestahl portrait thing as well, since that's also in Jidoor.

- Finally went to the Veldt with just a trio and got that mischievous Gau back in the party! Holy shit, he was level 36 when I got him back, while a couple of people in my party were already past level 50 at that point, and I just could not allow that. Buuut I think I only leveled him up to like level 39 lol

- More importantly, I went and talked to his father after getting him back in the crew, and...that was brutal. I was shouting aloud "that better not be how this story ends" and... then it ended. Maaaaybe there will be more later (DON'T SPOIL EITHER WAY OKAY) but maybe not. That was rough. I now kind of like Gau, actually...and immensely hate his father.

- Repeatedly visited like every town in the game just to memorize the general layout of the map and location of the various towns, castles, and everything else. Dropped my airship on tons of the little islands to see if I could find anything cool or hidden, but so far nothing. There's an NPC who talks about that island in the northeast with the two mountain passes on it and nothing else. He mentions there being "an enemy who will swallow you up" there, and I thought this implied a quest might begin from this. I explored that place, fought the enemies he was referring to -- the Zone Eaters -- but uhh they just swallow a party member and nothing else seems to happen when you beat them. You just get said member back.

- And in general, I just leveled the heck out of everybody and taught so many spells. Celes knows every single spell from every Esper, of which it appears that I have all but six, and Sabin I think just needs to learn Pearl and Flare. Now, since we're talking leveling, I suppose it's time for some new...
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Statzzz (as listed by the teams I just assembled for this dungeon):

Group 1

Celes: Lv. 54
Sabin: Lv. 52
Mog: Lv. 45
Umaro: Lv. 42

Group 2

Edgar: Lv. 50
Relm Lv. 49
Shadow Lv. 41
Strago: Lv. 36 (lol whoops)

Yeah, I'd been heavily leveling Celes, Sabin, Edgar, and Relm. Had them in a party together for a long while in that forest near the Veldt (where Tyrannosauruses and Brachosauruses constantly spawn) and just grinded like crazy. I don't know where GMUN went, but he'd be proud of my basically keeping Celes in my party at all times. I got in the habit early on of always using her for cure spells, so it's just kind of second nature to keep her around. Her Cure 1 heals over 1k at this point! (Though, assuming cure is based on magic power, Relm's would heal quite a bit more. I just literally always give my Gold Hairpin relic to Celes and use her to restore HP).

in other news, I was considering trying FFX one last time after finishing this game since I've enjoyed it so astoundingly much, buuuut the "Why Did They Lose?" topic spoiled Auron for me so now I have no interest again
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Um, I'll just say something else can happen when fighting the Zone Eater.
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Go get yourself swallowed boy
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okay okay I thought that might be the case too, considering there hasn't been a single suspicious thing of that sort which an NPC said that hasn't led me to something good

which makes me think Gau's father still has more to do too. idk why suddenly going back to him with the Gestahl letter triggered him to say I was the repairman he'd been looking for, but okay! and then nothing happened still though. whelp.
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dammit I've been procrastinating catchup since earlier exam stuff / family visits but now I've gotta lot to get through

when I'm in bed for the night!
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Well I got a little lazier with my updates a bit into the World of Ruin, but that's also because of the open-ended nature of the way it's structured! But yeah my Celes is god tier be proud
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glad enough with my latest check-in seeing Celes on top of the latest Statzzzzz update ohyes
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i love how wholeheartedly you've gone in on this game!!
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You're not supposed to beat Chupon. Some items will get you actual fights with actual rewards and enemies. Others just get you Chupon, as the "we couldn't think of anything interesting to put here" placeholder.
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Zone Eater you say!? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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annnnnnnnnnd all caught up

Fun fact I'm not sure if you noticed: When you found Shadow in the cave of the Veldt... note the pronoun use



[not a future spoiler, just a tease to explain the above picture so making sure you read that first!] If you didn't wait for Shadow on the Floating Continent, Relm would've been here instead of Shadow

Also with the Brachiosaurs you've been fighting, have you noticed any relic drops from them? Or I guess you only beat one...
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I'm glad to see you so thoroughly exploring the World of Ruin. As a kid playing this game for the first time, discovering secrets and mysteries in the second half was awesome.
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Ok I don't think you'll easily find this yourself. How to unlock Sabin's final move. You may skip if you wanna try to find yourself.

Go to Sabin's master house that you visited in early WoB. It's a lone house in the center-north of the map I think. Bring Sabin with you.

My favorite game of all time.... ALL TIME!

I have enjoyed following this topic even if I haven't really posted anything.

Without any spoilers -

Who was in your party when you visited Gau's father?

Do you ever stay at any of the inns? Especially with one specific character?
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I spent a looooong time on that dungeon last night. It was already the biggest dungeon in the game so far, but I made it like three times longer, exploring and grinding until my heart's content. Although there was one chest behind a single tile of spikes I could not for the life of me figure out how to get to. Will have a deep dive update later; for now, just answering some questions!

MalcolmMasher - I was reading up on Chupon and he is indeed beatable, at least. But good to know that there are other fights at the Colosseum. That is a bit weird though, because I DID try and wager all kinds of different stuff and just kept getting that damn Chupon fight. Will go back and try some more later.

GMUN - I totally noticed that and just assumed it was a typo. I actually googled that too and had it "confirmed" that it was merely a typo. But knowing that it was kind of both a typo and purposeful, just left in by accident, is really cool.

ZeldaTPLink - I am trying to find everything in the game on my own, so I will indeed skip that for now, but if I absolutely give up at some point, I'll check out what you said.

Cyko - Hmmm, I'm not sure. I'm guessing the second time I visited Gau's father, I maybe had someone in my party that could be considered the "repairman"? Mayhaps I need to visit him with some other party members. As for the inns, I stay at them from time to time, but I don't think I've stayed at them with the character I apparently should be! Haven't really witnessed any extra scenes at them. But generally, I try to sleep in the beds that are totally free. It's only recently I've cared less, since I still have 300,000 GP and that was after spending about 200,000 on almost everything I possibly could.
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The real coliseum menace is that thing that uses Traveler.

It's close to being mathematically unbeatable, depending on how many steps you've made.

Which is a shame because my RPG OCD means I really wanted both Stago and Relm to have their ultimate weapons.

brachy item dropppppp
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ZeldaTPLink posted...

Ok I don't think you'll easily find this yourself. How to unlock Sabin's final move. You may skip if you wanna try to find yourself.

Go to Sabin's master house that you visited in early WoB. It's a lone house in the center-north of the map I think. Bring Sabin with you.

Yeah, that's the way it's usually done. I think he'll eventually get it just by leveling up but you'd have to overlevel past what you really need to beat the game.
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