Poll of the Day > Is Saudi Arabia guilty of murdering Jamal Khashoggi?

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I have studied this, and I am pretty much sure Saudi Arabia's government has murderers as leaders. Please note that once you have innocent blood on your hands, there's no going back, and you will only descend further into madness. If this probability is the case, do you think we should liberate the Saudi's from these monsters (and take their oil at the same time hehe)?
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The culture is horrendous, you're not going to save them by swapping their leader.
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every nation has a murderer as a leader. I mean trump already the moab bomb on people. and omaba killed bin ladin
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I don't like the use of the word "innocent"...makes this topic seem ironic.

Don't get me wrong, he was, but saying it like that is like hyperbole...

Saying something like "The Saudi royals have committed a grievous and horrific injustice against an honest reporter" actually weighs the gravity accurately.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

The culture is horrendous, you're not going to save them by swapping their leader.

Westernize them. Drop pamphlets telling them about Jesus or something. Have missionaries go there and speak to people. Throw the king and crown prince in jail. Buy their oil so they can prosper, but stop selling them weapons.
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minervo posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

The culture is horrendous, you're not going to save them by swapping their leader.

Westernize them. Drop pamphlets telling them about Jesus or something. Have missionaries go there and speak to people. Throw the king and crown prince in jail. Buy their oil so they can prosper, but stop selling them weapons.

That hasn't worked in the west lol If you can't make your people assimilate, what makes you think you can make a foreign country do that?
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There's something rather disgusting to thinking the solution to a problem is to inject Christianity.
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ernieforss posted...

every nation has a murderer as a leader. I mean trump already the moab bomb on people. and omaba killed bin ladin

I don't think you know the difference between killing enemy combatants, and killing innocent people. Even if moab killed that teacher and his son, which is unlikely, it's their fault for associating with isis.
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Solid Sonic posted...

There's something rather disgusting to thinking the solution to a problem is to inject Christianity.

*reads sig*

*gags*
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ernieforss posted...

omaba killed bin ladin

Bin Laden was wearing the deaths of 3000 civilians and two national monuments like a badge of honor. I think he had it coming...
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Jamal Khashoggi was a enemy combatants to the Saudi Arabia government using his pen to destroy the royal family.
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ernieforss posted...

Jamal Khashoggi was a enemy combatants to the Saudi Arabia government using his pen to destroy the royal family.

More like expose their crimes. He is a hero and a martyr.
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ernieforss posted...

Jamal Khashoggi was a enemy combatants to the Saudi Arabia government using his pen to destroy the royal family.

Right, and everyone jailed for 100 years in Thailand for lese-majesty is CLEARLY the undoing of the Thai royal family and is a completely sensible solution.
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Probably.
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Everyone but Trump can tell they did it

Theyve already changed their story several times. First all of the cameras werent working that day, then it became cameras werent designed to record and just have a live feed, which is even more absurd of a notion.

Now theyre toying with trying to say he was supposed to be just interrogated and was accidentally killed(which is why they brought an autopsy expert and a bonesaw), or maybe that it was just a group of rogue killers and never mind the fact that it completely shows our previous excuse is a lie.

Trump is showing that he truly believes that all foreign relations should be transactional no matter what the future consequences might be. He made a great deal so human rights arent important.
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Mead posted...

Everyone but Trump can tell they did it

Theyve already changed their story several times. First all of the cameras werent working that day, then it became cameras werent designed to record and just have a live feed, which is even more absurd of a notion.

Now theyre toying with trying to say he was supposed to be just interrogated and was accidentally killed(which is why they brought an autopsy expert and a bonesaw), or maybe that it was just a group of rogue killers and never mind the fact that it completely shows our previous excuse is a lie.

Trump is showing that he truly believes that all foreign relations should be transactional no matter what the future consequences might be. He made a great deal so human rights arent important.

Would you give Trump some credit? Obama gave at least 6 billion to Iran. Those funds went into the hands of terrorists. Trump shut down that agreement, and guess what happened to ISIS right after?
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minervo posted...

ernieforss posted...

Jamal Khashoggi was a enemy combatants to the Saudi Arabia government using his pen to destroy the royal family.

More like expose their crimes. He is a hero and a martyr.

I agree to that. I'm not saying he was my enemy or he deserved to die. I'm just backing my statement that every leader is a murderer. You can't say that he was an innocent civilian when he wasn't. He was fighting a war in a different way. Just like an activist would do.
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I misread the use of innocent and accidentally voted Other.
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I don't know if the crown prince himself sanctioned it (since there is no evidence of that yet as far as I know) but it is obvious someone in the government did. You don't just have a dozen random people walk into a building, murder someone, and walk out without a bunch of people on the inside being aware of it.
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minervo posted...

Mead posted...

Everyone but Trump can tell they did it

Theyve already changed their story several times. First all of the cameras werent working that day, then it became cameras werent designed to record and just have a live feed, which is even more absurd of a notion.

Now theyre toying with trying to say he was supposed to be just interrogated and was accidentally killed(which is why they brought an autopsy expert and a bonesaw), or maybe that it was just a group of rogue killers and never mind the fact that it completely shows our previous excuse is a lie.

Trump is showing that he truly believes that all foreign relations should be transactional no matter what the future consequences might be. He made a great deal so human rights arent important.

Would you give Trump some credit? Obama gave at least 6 billion to Iran. Those funds went into the hands of terrorists. Trump shut down that agreement, and guess what happened to ISIS right after?

6 billion is far less than 110 billion, not that either are the right thing to do, but the fact is that the US gives lots of money to almost every nation to strengthen our own domestic interests.

We dont disregard human rights violations that go against all morals because weve made a deal though.

Fucking imagine if this had happened under Obama and he had responded initially by repeatedly pointing out that the victim wasnt even a US citizen
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Other: Who knows for sure even though a lot of the clues point to yes.
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In an absolute monarchy, the king either punishes the guilty or is guilty.
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I mean, it's just like Trump said, "You know, here we go again with guilty until proven innocent. We just went through that with Justice Kavanaugh."

Right?
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No way, SA did not do it, why would they do it in their own embassy when it can be done anywhere else? Doesn't make much sense to me.
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BurjDubai posted...

No way, SA did not do it, why would they do it in their own embassy when it can be done anywhere else? Doesn't make much sense to me.

Because they have total control of the location?
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Yes of course they did it.
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minervo posted...

I have studied this, and I am pretty much sure Saudi Arabia's government has murderers as leaders. Please note that once you have innocent blood on your hands, there's no going back, and you will only descend further into madness

Lmao
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