Poll of the Day > Is Final Fantasy 8 REALLY that bad

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MechaKirby
09/16/18 11:05:10 PM
#1:


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Never played it, and haven't seen it much at all, but people make it sound like it's unplayable
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Mead
09/16/18 11:10:20 PM
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There are worse games for sure, but it has some very glaring issues

The characters are two dimensional and most honestly arent likeable(Rinoa is SO VAPID), the narrative is bananas even in JRPG terms and the pacing is all over the place

The battle system is incredibly exploitable and the game actually encourages you to avoid battles and not become stronger. You can easily break the game by just playing cards to gather spells

The game has its merits too though. Despite the aging graphics the artistic design is gorgeous, the soundtrack is one of the best in the series, and the FMV sequences still hold up
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argonautweakend
09/16/18 11:13:29 PM
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I enjoy it for several reasons, but there is a lot to hate as well.

I like the setting its in, and the plot for the most part is interesting, though it could have been executed better. I love the GF system in the fact that your summon creatures play a real role in the team other than just one summon attack. I am also a fan of the card game, though the rules do change throughout the game and can be whack. Not only can you get cool items from it, its just cool to get summon monster cards or character cards.

The battle system is kinda whack. you can fuck this game up six ways from sunday if you want. I always level to 100 when I play just because, but since enemies level with you, gaining levels is nearly pointless, and you can boost your stats in several different ways.

The characters don't get much meaningful development until the end, and the final boss doesnt come out of nowhere but there is no real intense buildup to their fight like a sephiroth. you wanted to kick his ass, but in FF8 you dont really care about the final boss.

Overall I like this game, though I can plainly see why people hate it. I just really like the world its set in and its wacky battle mechanics are neat, imo. Also, in contains one of my favorite parts in any video game ever the assassination of edea on disc 1
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argonautweakend
09/16/18 11:16:08 PM
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I kinda feel like the makers of the game made it easy to exploit on purpose. Like, I feel like it was intended to be this way, and not something like it was an oversight they made enc_none a fairly easy ability to get 30 minutes into the game
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GanglyKhan
09/16/18 11:41:46 PM
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Level scaling, man. Fuck that noise.
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Garlands_Soul
09/16/18 11:45:52 PM
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GanglyKhan posted...
Level scaling, man. Fuck that noise.

This. Game looks beautiful but it plays like ass.
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VeeVees
09/16/18 11:46:22 PM
#7:


It's not as bad as 11 or 13 but still definitely one of the worst.
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Greenfox111
09/16/18 11:47:59 PM
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VeeVees posted...
It's not as bad as 11 or 13 but still definitely one of the worst.

11 is leagues better than 8 could ever dream of being
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GanglyKhan
09/16/18 11:50:47 PM
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Garlands_Soul posted...
GanglyKhan posted...
Level scaling, man. Fuck that noise.

This. Game looks beautiful but it plays like ass.

I love the aesthics of VII - IX. Pre-rendered stuff is great.

VeeVees posted...
It's not as bad as 11 or 13 but still definitely one of the worst.

I don't think it's fair to toss in XI (or XIV for that matter) just due to the drastically different style. I get that XV is now a massive outlier in that regard, but there's a huge distinction between MMO and non-MMO for FF
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JixHedgehog
09/17/18 12:09:39 AM
#10:


It was alright

The PocketStation mini game kept me interested long enough to finish

I dont remember the ending thou :O
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Nichtcrawler X
09/17/18 12:16:02 PM
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It probably is the only one I would have actually been interested in buying from the batch. It is definitely better than 7 and 10-2, probably 10 as well. 9 I honestly do not know, Only relevant main-line FF I have not played. (So maybe 9 as well, but cannot imagine it being that much better than 8)
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Kyuubi4269
09/17/18 12:19:55 PM
#12:


What kind of drunk puts 7 and 10-2 at the same level?
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Nichtcrawler X
09/17/18 12:22:48 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
What kind of drunk puts 7 and 10-2 at the same level?


That level is just somewhere below 8, nothing about how they ranked compared to eachother. Been a long time since I played 10-2, but would not be surprised if it actually were better than 7.

Also, read my sig and come up with a better insult.
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Kyuubi4269
09/17/18 12:28:04 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
Been a long time since I played 10-2, but would not be surprised if it actually were better than 7.

10-2 was 10 with less characters, less clothes and less plot, it's a proper bottom-of-the-barrel spin-off. And you're comparing it to one of the few games in history to be critically rated 100/100?
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Nichtcrawler X
09/17/18 12:33:06 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
And you're comparing it to one of the few games in history to be critically rated 100/100?


Most of that is nostalgia, it aged incredibly poorly.
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TheCyborgNinja
09/17/18 3:19:35 PM
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8 deserved the remake over 7... aside from needing it more, the expectations are non-existent and it wouldn't disappoint.
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Mead
09/17/18 3:22:44 PM
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In no world is 8 better than 7
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Nichtcrawler X
09/17/18 3:36:22 PM
#18:


Mead posted...
In no world is 8 better than 7


I do not know about other worlds, but in this world it is.

FF used to be 3 games per console generation, which I think is the fairest way to compare them, because the games then have the same limitations.

The first game of the set, always set a decent standard and starting point for the other games of that generation, but those always build forward to something better and always in such a way that the second and third games are clearly better than the first. But comparing the second and third is always much more subjective and less clear as to which is actually better.
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Mead
09/17/18 3:48:47 PM
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9 is better than 7, but 8 is the low point of the ps1 titles
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Metalsonic66
09/17/18 5:46:43 PM
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I couldn't get into it. I got close to the end of the 2nd disc with like 40 hours in the game and just stopped caring.
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Zeus
09/17/18 6:06:33 PM
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It's pretty bad, but it had neat aspects. I like how they did more to incorporate summons into gameplay. And, of course, I liked the CCG... so much so that I bought a bunch of the cards off Yahoo Auctions (Remember Yahoo Auctions? That was a thing!)
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FrozenBananas
09/17/18 6:12:04 PM
#22:


It's one of my favorite games ever.

The biggest flaw is probably in the leveling / junctioning system, so that's why people hate it so much, but that part is playable.

It also has some of the best original music in any game ever, some amazing characters and a great story. I love it
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I_Abibde
09/17/18 6:12:28 PM
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One of my favorites in the series, but I will admit to a bias there because a shared love for Final Fantasy VIII is the reason my wife and I met. In my opinion, it still holds up, but it is very different from every other game in the series. A unique and divisive experience.

I also enjoy Final Fantasy II despite how goofy the game play is.
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Zeus
09/17/18 8:38:48 PM
#24:


I_Abibde posted...
One of my favorites in the series, but I will admit to a bias there because a shared love for Final Fantasy VIII is the reason my wife and I met


Given that the game doesn't have online, I'm somewhat curious how that happened. Did one of you sell the other the game while working at a store? Or did you meet while cosplaying as Squall and Rinoa at a con?
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Space_Man
09/17/18 8:46:28 PM
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Everything after disc 1 is a dream
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ParanoidObsessive
09/18/18 8:57:43 AM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
Mead posted...
In no world is 8 better than 7

I do not know about other worlds, but in this world it is.

If the person judging has suffered multiple concussions, possibly.


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Nichtcrawler X
09/18/18 9:02:43 AM
#27:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
If the person judging has suffered multiple concussions, possibly.


I cannot deny that I have.
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I_Abibde
09/18/18 9:19:48 AM
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Zeus posted...
Given that the game doesn't have online, I'm somewhat curious how that happened. Did one of you sell the other the game while working at a store? Or did you meet while cosplaying as Squall and Rinoa at a con?


Nothing as fancy as that. We are both Final Fantasy fanficcers (among other series).
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zebatov
09/18/18 9:56:00 AM
#29:


It's not the greatest, and the card game gets extremely hard a short ways in. At least for me.
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Peterass
09/18/18 12:00:14 PM
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If you play the game normally, that is, not over analyze and seek out ways to break it, it's a pretty good game. Very underrated and I think that's because it's overshadowed by 7.

I thought the story was good and had me in suspense the whole time. Don't listen to the naysayers, its not bad at all.
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ernieforss
09/19/18 1:58:31 PM
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it's bad, but so was ff15 and ffx. I would say FF8 is better than both those game. at least it has a pretty good love story compared to the other two.

I will say FFX has a better battle system than 8

i hated that you have to steal magic to wear it as armor. once you find a enemy with new magic you spend 30 mintues stealing the magic to get it to 99. i know you don't have to do it, but you still did it anyways.
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Serdar
09/19/18 2:05:48 PM
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FF8 > FFVii
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xjayguyx
09/19/18 6:00:27 PM
#33:


It's one of my least enjoyed FF games, I still beat it way back in the day but have never played it again. However I have went back and beat FF9, FF6 and FF4 in the last year.
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Serdar
09/19/18 6:14:54 PM
#34:


xjayguyx posted...
It's one of my least enjoyed FF games, I still beat it way back in the day but have never played it again. However I have went back and beat FF9, FF6 and FF4 in the last year.

*lafs*
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xjayguyx
09/19/18 8:50:33 PM
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Serdar posted...
xjayguyx posted...
It's one of my least enjoyed FF games, I still beat it way back in the day but have never played it again. However I have went back and beat FF9, FF6 and FF4 in the last year.

*lafs*


K...

How come FF 8 isn't going on switch but 7 and 9 are? Hmm I wonder... >.>
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Syntheticon
09/19/18 9:35:24 PM
#36:


Like every FF (until they got into the X-2/Lightning returns foolishness), each one is different and appeals to different people. I quite liked VIII and didn't really enjoy IX but it's all cyclical-everyone was very anti XII but until Zodiac Age came out, a lot of people simply hadn't played it and just heard it was crap but it's always been one of my favourites since day one (and I didn't think X was as good as everyone seems to say either).

Like every game in the series, it will appeal to different people, has its flaws and has a few things they really got right. If you don't like it, just wait for the next one, that's the whole idea. I'll admit not putting it in this compilation on switch is weird though, have they mentioned if it was a technical issue or just lazy?
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WhiskeyDisk
09/19/18 9:40:36 PM
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Narratively, I'm just going to leave this here because it improves the game immensely.

*Spoilers below*

http://squallsdead.com

It's the same way that Star Trek: Voyager is a lot more palatable if you watch it through the lens of Janeway being bipolar while Tuvok and the EMH are covering for her condition the entire time.
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Mead
09/19/18 9:44:29 PM
#38:


Ive always thought that fan theory is really dumb though

It doesnt make the plot better in any way
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WhiskeyDisk
09/19/18 9:48:35 PM
#39:


Mead posted...
Ive always thought that fan theory is really dumb though

It doesnt make the plot better in any way


Anything is an improvement over the orphanage reveal followed by the Ziggy stardust sequence. Transformers: The Last Knight and Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skulls make more sense narratively than FF8 and those don't even make sense in acid logic.
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Zeus
09/19/18 10:27:37 PM
#40:


WhiskeyDisk posted...
Anything is an improvement over the orphanage reveal


Yeah, what the fuck was that? I'm not sure why they bothered to do something like that.
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Lokarin
09/19/18 10:30:25 PM
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Zeus posted...
WhiskeyDisk posted...
Anything is an improvement over the orphanage reveal


Yeah, what the fuck was that? I'm not sure why they bothered to do something like that.


Well, the reason they did it is so that the orphanage acts as a singularity during time compression - a point where they were all at the same place and time.

but as a story element it was dumb.
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WhiskeyDisk
09/20/18 12:36:35 AM
#42:


Lokarin posted...
but as a story element it was dumb.


Dumb is putting it mildly.
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Zareth
09/20/18 12:39:30 AM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...

It's the same way that Star Trek: Voyager is a lot more palatable if you watch it through the lens of Janeway being bipolar while Tuvok and the EMH are covering for her condition the entire time.

Or you can just accept the fact that Janeway is a fucking war criminal.
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FinalFantasyVII
09/20/18 12:48:07 AM
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FFVIII is fun but it's silly and trivial at times as most bosses are comically easy. And the plot in the middle of the game is really boring.
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DeathMagnetic80
09/20/18 12:49:26 AM
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It's definitely an easy game to break. Get ultimate weapons, junction 99 ultima spells to strength, cast aura, destroy everything.
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WhiskeyDisk
09/20/18 12:50:33 AM
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Zareth posted...
WhiskeyDisk posted...

It's the same way that Star Trek: Voyager is a lot more palatable if you watch it through the lens of Janeway being bipolar while Tuvok and the EMH are covering for her condition the entire time.

Or you can just accept the fact that Janeway is a fucking war criminal.


Are we talking about the same Starfleet that ok'd Sisko's operation to basically commit genocide on the Founder's home world?

They made Janeway a fucking admiral upon Voyager's return.

Let's not pretend that the showrunners were playing by the same rules after Roddenberry died.
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