Poll of the Day > Man arrested for faking Down Syndrome and tricking caretakers into bathing him

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09/14/18 11:00:00 AM
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https://www.newsweek.com/man-arrested-faking-down-syndrome-and-hiring-caretakers-bathe-him-change-his-1121462

A man has been arrested on suspicion of pretending to have Down syndrome so he could hire caretakers to bathe him and change his diapers.

Paul Anthony Menchaca has been charged with fraudulent schemes and sexual abuse after he was arrested at his parents home in Gilbert, Arizona, on September 6.

Police say Menchaca posed as his mother, Amy to hire workers from sites and apps such as Carelinx and care.com, reports ABC 15. Among some of the requirements Amy told the careers were told to carry out included washing and changing him.

One care worker told police she assisted Menchaca with around 30 diaper changes or baths during the summer.

"He needed shower and grooming, he couldn't use the bathroom himself, he couldn't really be alone by himself, one care worker told ABC 15.

He acted like a child; his whole demeanor was childlike. He would act in tantrums, talk like a child, act like a child," one caregiver said. "Why would you do that? Why would you make us change you knowing you didn't have to?"

According to court documents seen by AZ Family, the same care worker recalled at least five separate occasions where Menchaca aggressively said his genitals were not cleaned enough.

Elsewhere, Amy told all three care workers hired by Menchaca to punish him when he soiled his diaper by putting him in timeout and taking away his privileges, according to the probable cause statement for the arrest.

All three of the care workers connected to the investigation only communicated with Amy by text message and were paid by Menchaca in cash when they picked him up and dropped him off at different locations, none of which were his actually home, according to the probable cause statement.

Menchaca alleged scheme was found out after one of the workers followed him home after dropping him off at another location he had given her. She then met his real mother and father and found out he does not have Down syndrome.

All three workers then confronted Menchaca, who later admitted he had been lying the entire time.

Following his arrest, the Chandler Unified School District confirmed that Menchaca used to be employed by them but resigned on August 31. The district also clarified he did not work with children unsupervised.

His arrest was not related to his work with children at Bogle Junior High or any other CUSD school, Bogle Junior High principal Nathan Fairchild said in a letter to parents, reports AZ Family.

He resigned the week previous and is no longer employed by the school district. Though his arrest did not involve any of our students, we had previously notified the parents of the classroom where he had worked as an aide and wanted you to be aware as well.

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09/14/18 11:10:43 AM
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wtf?
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09/14/18 11:10:47 AM
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Was this guy a potder?
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Royal_Mudcrap
09/14/18 11:16:53 AM
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I don't see the problem, he didn't pay them or something?
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Kyuubi4269
09/14/18 11:20:56 AM
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Zangulus posted...
Royal_Mudcrap posted...
I don't see the problem, he didn't pay them or something?


You dont see a problem with having them repeatedly scrub his genitalia in an obvious fetish related way through subterfuge? Its sexual assault...

They did the act willingly.

You can bang chicks by claiming to be a billionaire, so why not have your balls washed on false pretenses too.
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Royal_Mudcrap
09/14/18 11:21:51 AM
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Zangulus posted...
Royal_Mudcrap posted...
I don't see the problem, he didn't pay them or something?


You dont see a problem with having them repeatedly scrub his genitalia in an obvious fetish related way through subterfuge? Its sexual assault...


I mean, I guess?

Their job is to bathe patients, he was a patient and paid for the service.

So, like, if you have a problem washing genitalia, don't work on a job which requires to wash genitalia?

He may have been pretending to be sick, but he did pay for the service, did he not. Do they have a clause in which they specifically say you can't fake an illness to receive service? If not, i don't see a problem.
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SunWuKung420
09/14/18 11:24:16 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
They did the act willingly.


Under the pretense that the man was mentally handicapped and not some creeper trying to get off.

I'm not surprised you think what he did is ok.
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OrangeDawn
09/14/18 11:24:29 AM
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What part of

fraudulent schemes and sexual abuse

is so hard for people to understand lol. Potd defends some off the weirdest, inexcusable shit.
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Mead
09/14/18 11:25:57 AM
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Royal_Mudcrap posted...
Zangulus posted...
Royal_Mudcrap posted...
I don't see the problem, he didn't pay them or something?


You dont see a problem with having them repeatedly scrub his genitalia in an obvious fetish related way through subterfuge? Its sexual assault...


I mean, I guess?

Their job is to bathe patients, he was a patient and paid for the service.

So, like, if you have a problem washing genitalia, don't work on a job which requires to wash genitalia?

He may have been pretending to be sick, but he did pay for the service, did he not. Do they have a clause in which they specifically say you can't fake an illness to receive service? If not, i don't see a problem.


Dude.

There is a big difference between being a caregiver for someone who cant take care of themself and being tricked into sexually gratifying someone who is faking a genetic disorder. This freak was repeatedly sexually assaulting these people.
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wwinterj25
09/14/18 11:27:37 AM
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Royal_Mudcrap posted...
Their job is to bathe patients, he was a patient and paid for the service.


He was also faking a illness. That it itself is disgraceful and disrespectful to folk who actually do have this illness and to the mental health workers. Paying for a service doesn't mean you can abuse the service. Hell some hookers even have limits.
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09/14/18 11:28:31 AM
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Lololol
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Jen0125
09/14/18 11:28:41 AM
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Lmao. Omfg. Who even thinks to do things like thiiiis
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09/14/18 11:29:42 AM
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Lmaooo my family lives in Gilbert. That's hilarious.
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Kyuubi4269
09/14/18 11:36:52 AM
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No. No they did not engage in a sex act with this man willingly. In no way can you justify him specifically receiving sexual pleasure without their knowledge or concent as being willingly.

Your analogy is terrible.

What did those chicks know they were doing? Having sex

What did these women think they were doing? Taking care of a disabled man in a Completely non sexual way

So you're saying sex is entirely intent? If somebody touches your arm with perverse intent, it was actually sexual assault? Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense. Your logic would mean that Nike makes people culpable for child exploitation because they bought Nike sneakers

They willingly performed an act that brings about sexual arousal, you can't be upset that someone enjoys what you're being paid to do.

And to be clear, I'm not defending the morality, I'm saying the legality is questionable at best.

Mead posted...
There is a big difference between being a caregiver for someone who cant take care of themself and being tricked into sexually gratifying someone who is faking a genetic disorder.

Evidently it's the same physical action.
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SunWuKung420
09/14/18 11:38:30 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
I'm saying the legality is questionable at best.


Then what you're saying is wrong.
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Royal_Mudcrap
09/14/18 11:46:26 AM
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No wonder all you guys do here is complain, Jesus learn to be professional.

Got a problem washing genitalia? DONT WORK IN A JOB, that literally, IS WASHING GENITALIA.
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09/14/18 11:50:09 AM
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OrangeDawn posted...
What part of

fraudulent schemes and sexual abuse

is so hard for people to understand lol. Potd defends some off the weirdest, inexcusable shit.


Are you really surprised?
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Royal_Mudcrap
09/14/18 11:50:52 AM
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Zangulus posted...
Royal_Mudcrap posted...
No wonder all you guys do here is complain, Jesus learn to be professional.

Got a problem washing genitalia? DONT WORK IN A JOB, that literally, IS WASHING GENITALIA.


Literally cant see a difference between washing a penis and pleasuring a penis with intention.


I see it, but you are splitting hairs.

The job was to wash genitalia, the outcome should be a clean genitalia.

Just because the intention of the person getting washed, doesn't change the job the person was required to do. Which was wash the genitalia.
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LinkPizza
09/14/18 11:52:48 AM
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What if he was just super lazy and wanted people to basically do those things for him? And thought the best way was to fake having a mental disorder. I think faking a mental disorder is very wrong. And he shouldn't have done what he did. But maybe it was just laziness...
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09/14/18 11:54:53 AM
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Mead posted...
Royal_Mudcrap posted...
Zangulus posted...
Royal_Mudcrap posted...
I don't see the problem, he didn't pay them or something?


You dont see a problem with having them repeatedly scrub his genitalia in an obvious fetish related way through subterfuge? Its sexual assault...


I mean, I guess?

Their job is to bathe patients, he was a patient and paid for the service.

So, like, if you have a problem washing genitalia, don't work on a job which requires to wash genitalia?

He may have been pretending to be sick, but he did pay for the service, did he not. Do they have a clause in which they specifically say you can't fake an illness to receive service? If not, i don't see a problem.


Dude.

There is a big difference between being a caregiver for someone who cant take care of themself and being tricked into sexually gratifying someone who is faking a genetic disorder. This freak was repeatedly sexually assaulting these people.

Seriously. My sister is a home care worker that helps people with real disabilities. This would be so fucked up

There's no job called genital washer. If you're trying to defend this by saying that this person's job was to wash genitals you're way out to lunch. It's ultimately a minor duty in the whole scope of caring for somebody with these kinds of needs. This person pretending to have certain care needs that he doesn't have in order to have somebody touch his genitals. Guess what? That's sexual assault
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Sarcasthma
09/14/18 11:55:27 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
What if he was just super lazy and wanted people to basically do those things for him? And thought the best way was to fake having a mental disorder. I think faking a mental disorder is very wrong. And he shouldn't have done what he did. But maybe it was just laziness...

According to court documents seen by AZ Family, the same care worker recalled at least five separate occasions where Menchaca aggressively said his genitals were not cleaned enough.

It sounds like there was a bit more than laziness at play here, dude.
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09/14/18 11:56:34 AM
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Zangulus posted...
The legality is in no way questionable. Best or otherwise. He committed a sex crime. His entire intent was to receive sexual pleasure from someone through fraudulent means.

Explain women jumping on "astronaut" dick then. That's fraudulent.

Zangulus posted...
Do you have no idea how anologies work? He didnt touch them with sexual intent. He coerced them through fraud into committing a sex act on him.

No force, no threat, act was done by choice. And Nike sells shoes without telling you about the sweatshop, that doesn't make it fraudulent or coercive.

Zangulus posted...
Cleaning a penis is NOT inherently a sexual act.

Hands on dicks is sexual, but if it wasn't then you'd still be in the wrong as you can't sexually assault someone with a non-sexual act.

Zangulus posted...
His use of lying in order to get them to rub his penis repeatedly, unecessarily IS a sexual act on his part. NOT on theirs.

If it was unnecessary then why were they still touching it? If they willingly rubbed a clean penis, they would be willfully committing a sexual act.
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Doctor Foxx
09/14/18 11:59:05 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
If it was unnecessary then why were they still touching it? If they willingly rubbed a clean penis, they would be willfully committing a sexual act.

This is seriously some of the most delusional and disgusting victim-blaming that I've ever seen, even for you
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09/14/18 12:02:54 PM
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Sarcasthma posted...
According to court documents seen by AZ Family, the same care worker recalled at least five separate occasions where Menchaca aggressively said his genitals were not cleaned enough.It sounds like there was a bit more than laziness at play here, dude.


Zangulus posted...
He was clean. He wanted gratification. Diaper and baby fetishists are a thing... this is exactly what they do. But its normally with a willing partner.

I saw that part, but it is possible that he wanted it cleaner. I'm not saying that this is what he did. But I'm saying that he could have been super lazy. And maybe he really want to make sure it was clean. He was wearing diapers, apparently. And I know about the diaper fetishes and stuff. Definitely not my thing, but it could because of the fetish, or so lazy he does want to get up to use the bathroom or wash himself.
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Royal_Mudcrap
09/14/18 12:03:11 PM
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Zangulus posted...
Royal_Mudcrap posted...
Zangulus posted...
Royal_Mudcrap posted...
No wonder all you guys do here is complain, Jesus learn to be professional.

Got a problem washing genitalia? DONT WORK IN A JOB, that literally, IS WASHING GENITALIA.


Literally cant see a difference between washing a penis and pleasuring a penis with intention.


I see it, but you are splitting hairs.

The job was to wash genitalia, the outcome should be a clean genitalia.

Just because the intention of the person getting washed, doesn't change the job the person was required to do. Which was wash the genitalia.


I am in no way splitting hairs.

There is a fucking Grand Canyon divide between I cant take care of myself, I need someone to clean me because I am unable and I am going to fulfill a sexual fetish by means of fraud through a person in order for them to unknowingly, and specifically, give me sexual gratification.

Like. Grand Canyon might not even be a big enough divide.

His pure intention was to be touched sexually and dealt with in a way that is sexual to him.

Their intention? To clean someone that needed it that could not do it themselves.

Like. How can you even begin to compare these things?

He paid for a service.

To be cleaned

To claim that they accepted the fact that they would be unknowingly sexually gratifying someone is fucking insane.


So then what happens if a caregiver is washing someone with disability and they get aroused? Does this mean the person with the disability gets to sue the caregiver?

See, you are splitting hairs.

Please do not misunderstand me, I think it's HIGHLY unethical. But ethics and business don't mix. I know you are not young (really not trying to insult you here, I am not young either) so I assume you must have some actual professional experience (beyond working at Mcdonalds or BestBuy) so you should understand my point.

Should the guy be shamed and shunned? Hell yes, but he shoud not be punished by the law just to appease idiots who somehow think the world is a magical place and you are forced on your shit job and you get to complain about it.

Don't like your job? Don't work there. Can't find a better job? Should've prepared yourself more.
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Kyuubi4269
09/14/18 12:03:37 PM
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Zangulus posted...
Hands on dicks is sexual,


See. This is all you had to say. Youre unable to realize that theres such thing as touching a penis in an unsexual way.

Theres really no reason to respond to any of the other insane things youre attempting to justify.

Youre wrong.

Dont like it?

Too bad.

lol what a fucking child.

It is a sexual act, but it can be done for non-sexual reasons. If you fucked a dude at gunpoint then you wouldn't be doing it for sexual reasons but you would still be performing a sexual act.
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Sarcasthma
09/14/18 12:07:27 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
According to court documents seen by AZ Family, the same care worker recalled at least five separate occasions where Menchaca aggressively said his genitals were not cleaned enough.It sounds like there was a bit more than laziness at play here, dude.


Zangulus posted...
He was clean. He wanted gratification. Diaper and baby fetishists are a thing... this is exactly what they do. But its normally with a willing partner.

I saw that part, but it is possible that he wanted it cleaner. I'm not saying that this is what he did. But I'm saying that he could have been super lazy. And maybe he really want to make sure it was clean. He was wearing diapers, apparently. And I know about the diaper fetishes and stuff. Definitely not my thing, but it could because of the fetish, or so lazy he does want to get up to use the bathroom or wash himself.

It's also possible that he's an alien and his alien penis requires a great deal more cleaning than a human penis would. I'm not saying that this is definitely the case, but it's possible.
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09/14/18 12:11:36 PM
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Sarcasthma posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
According to court documents seen by AZ Family, the same care worker recalled at least five separate occasions where Menchaca aggressively said his genitals were not cleaned enough.It sounds like there was a bit more than laziness at play here, dude.


Zangulus posted...
He was clean. He wanted gratification. Diaper and baby fetishists are a thing... this is exactly what they do. But its normally with a willing partner.

I saw that part, but it is possible that he wanted it cleaner. I'm not saying that this is what he did. But I'm saying that he could have been super lazy. And maybe he really want to make sure it was clean. He was wearing diapers, apparently. And I know about the diaper fetishes and stuff. Definitely not my thing, but it could because of the fetish, or so lazy he does want to get up to use the bathroom or wash himself.

It's also possible that he's an alien and his alien penis requires a great deal more cleaning than a human penis would. I'm not saying that this is definitely the case, but it's possible.

True. Probably less possible, but true... It is a possibility...
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Sarcasthma
09/14/18 12:13:14 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
According to court documents seen by AZ Family, the same care worker recalled at least five separate occasions where Menchaca aggressively said his genitals were not cleaned enough.It sounds like there was a bit more than laziness at play here, dude.


Zangulus posted...
He was clean. He wanted gratification. Diaper and baby fetishists are a thing... this is exactly what they do. But its normally with a willing partner.

I saw that part, but it is possible that he wanted it cleaner. I'm not saying that this is what he did. But I'm saying that he could have been super lazy. And maybe he really want to make sure it was clean. He was wearing diapers, apparently. And I know about the diaper fetishes and stuff. Definitely not my thing, but it could because of the fetish, or so lazy he does want to get up to use the bathroom or wash himself.

It's also possible that he's an alien and his alien penis requires a great deal more cleaning than a human penis would. I'm not saying that this is definitely the case, but it's possible.

True. Probably less possible, but true... It is a possibility...

Yeah, I just think it's important to mention any and all possible explanations no matter how implausible they are.
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LinkPizza
09/14/18 12:28:09 PM
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Sarcasthma posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
According to court documents seen by AZ Family, the same care worker recalled at least five separate occasions where Menchaca aggressively said his genitals were not cleaned enough.It sounds like there was a bit more than laziness at play here, dude.


Zangulus posted...
He was clean. He wanted gratification. Diaper and baby fetishists are a thing... this is exactly what they do. But its normally with a willing partner.

I saw that part, but it is possible that he wanted it cleaner. I'm not saying that this is what he did. But I'm saying that he could have been super lazy. And maybe he really want to make sure it was clean. He was wearing diapers, apparently. And I know about the diaper fetishes and stuff. Definitely not my thing, but it could because of the fetish, or so lazy he does want to get up to use the bathroom or wash himself.

It's also possible that he's an alien and his alien penis requires a great deal more cleaning than a human penis would. I'm not saying that this is definitely the case, but it's possible.

True. Probably less possible, but true... It is a possibility...

Yeah, I just think it's important to mention any and all possible explanations no matter how implausible they are.

Sure. Though, as I said, I think yours is less so. I also don't think what I said is that implausible. As I said, I don't think that he falls under the super lazy part. But I think it's a real possibility that someone might try to do. I know way more people that are super lazy then aliens that are super lazy that have a penis that needs to be washed more than a human's...
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Sarcasthma
09/14/18 12:28:54 PM
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Zangulus posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
According to court documents seen by AZ Family, the same care worker recalled at least five separate occasions where Menchaca aggressively said his genitals were not cleaned enough.It sounds like there was a bit more than laziness at play here, dude.


Zangulus posted...
He was clean. He wanted gratification. Diaper and baby fetishists are a thing... this is exactly what they do. But its normally with a willing partner.

I saw that part, but it is possible that he wanted it cleaner. I'm not saying that this is what he did. But I'm saying that he could have been super lazy. And maybe he really want to make sure it was clean. He was wearing diapers, apparently. And I know about the diaper fetishes and stuff. Definitely not my thing, but it could because of the fetish, or so lazy he does want to get up to use the bathroom or wash himself.

It's also possible that he's an alien and his alien penis requires a great deal more cleaning than a human penis would. I'm not saying that this is definitely the case, but it's possible.

True. Probably less possible, but true... It is a possibility...

Yeah, I just think it's important to mention any and all possible explanations no matter how implausible they are.


Maybe it was 118 squirrels, mostly shaved, dressed up like a man in order to get their nuts cleaned. Good food hygiene is a necessity in a healthy squirrels life.

That is also a possibility.
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Golden Road
09/14/18 12:35:55 PM
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Explain women jumping on "astronaut" dick then. That's fraudulent.

Did you just make that up? I can't find even a single use of "astronaut dick" with Google that isn't about literal astronauts named Dick o_O
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LinkPizza
09/14/18 12:38:37 PM
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Zangulus posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Sure. Though, as I said, I think yours is less so. I also don't think what I said is that implausible. As I said, I don't think that he falls under the super lazy part. But I think it's a real possibility that someone might try to do. I know way more people that are super lazy then aliens that are super lazy that have a penis that needs to be washed more than a human's...


Im not sure. It seems like more effort to get and pay people to do this than to just do it yourself with no other benefit. Especially since he had a full time job.

I thought about that. But I guess it depends on how much effort was put into it. I mean, he seemed to just have to use an app. And then text pretending to be his mom. And paid in cash. No matter what, there were things he would have to do himself. But not everything. Like I said, I don't think he did it. Though, I think someone might one day... If they have enough money. Then again, with enough money, you could probably hire someone to do it without lying...
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Zeus
09/14/18 12:38:45 PM
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Kinda wondering why nobody figured this out sooner. If the guy supposedly couldn't be left by himself (hence needing a caretaker), why would his "mom" constantly leave him by himself? And not even at his actual home?

Otherwise, Arizona Man strikes again! >_>
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Mead
09/14/18 12:42:52 PM
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Classic Zeus victim blaming once again
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OrangeDawn
09/14/18 12:43:11 PM
#52:


Besides reaffirming that Kyuubi is a piece of shit with no grasp on reality, my opinion on LinkPizza drops every time he plays devils advocate for no reason lol
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