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VipaGTS
09/13/18 11:40:37 AM
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This is where weve come to as a country...

https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/blanks-to-be-fired-during-active-shooter-drill-at-local-school/831977346
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BWing
09/13/18 11:41:28 AM
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What the fuck?
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lifeamovie
09/13/18 11:43:06 AM
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Trying to prepare for disasters, how terrible
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Lordgold666
09/13/18 11:44:03 AM
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lifeamovie posted...
Trying to prepare for disasters, how terrible

^^
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tremain07
09/13/18 11:44:49 AM
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Lordgold666 posted...
lifeamovie posted...
Trying to prepare for disasters, how terrible

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eston
09/13/18 11:45:23 AM
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Seems a little overdramatic

Like when you do a fire drill you don't rent a bunch of smoke machines, lol
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VipaGTS
09/13/18 11:45:38 AM
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Lordgold666 posted...
lifeamovie posted...
Trying to prepare for disasters, how terrible

^^

funny, when i was in school i never had to prepare for a murderer running in and shooting at my classmates...the fact that we have to now have a drill for this, seemingly normalizing the event is terrible.
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NeonOctopus
09/13/18 11:46:03 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/13/18 11:46:14 AM
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eston posted...
Seems a little overdramatic

Like when you do a fire drill you don't rent a bunch of smoke machines, lol


Maybe they should.
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InstaReturns
09/13/18 11:46:17 AM
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If it's the kids doing the shooting, wouldn't that mean that after these drills, they know how to get around in a real situation when (obviously worst case scenario) they perform a shooting
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Questionmarktarius
09/13/18 11:47:34 AM
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Wouldn't it be cheaper and safer to just get a cap gun?
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s0nicfan
09/13/18 11:47:40 AM
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VipaGTS posted...
Lordgold666 posted...
lifeamovie posted...
Trying to prepare for disasters, how terrible

^^

funny, when i was in school i never had to prepare for a murderer running in and shooting at my classmates...the fact that we have to now have a drill for this, seemingly normalizing the event is terrible.


Just because you didn't prep doesn't mean they were less likely. School shootings have been trending down for years. It's just you're more aware when they happen now.

https://crimeresearch.org/2014/06/updated-information-on-k-12-school-shootings-deaths-the-number-of-deaths-has-been-declining-over-time/
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Tmaster148
09/13/18 11:47:43 AM
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I get the idea. But I don't think desensitizing kids to gun fire will go a well as they think.
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SageHarpuia
09/13/18 11:48:12 AM
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eston posted...
Seems a little overdramatic

Like when you do a fire drill you don't rent a bunch of smoke machines, lol

This.

TC has a stupid point though. "In an ideal world we wouldn't need these so we just shouldn't do them"
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/13/18 11:50:38 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
I get the idea. But I don't think desensitizing kids to gun fire will go a well as they think.


Being able to remain calm in stressful scenarios is good. Should the military not do live fire training?
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SageHarpuia
09/13/18 11:50:54 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
I get the idea. But I don't think desensitizing kids to gun fire will go a well as they think.

Kids hunt all the time. I would argue that it's better for them to recognize a gun shot so they don't just assume someone tripped over something in the hallway.
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Colorahdo
09/13/18 11:51:29 AM
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You can kill someone with a blank cartridge
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Roshon
09/13/18 11:52:22 AM
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VipaGTS posted...
Lordgold666 posted...
lifeamovie posted...
Trying to prepare for disasters, how terrible

^^

funny, when i was in school i never had to prepare for a murderer running in and shooting at my classmates...the fact that we have to now have a drill for this, seemingly normalizing the event is terrible.

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Caution998
09/13/18 11:52:46 AM
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I remember even my High School practiced for a shooter back in early 2001. It was a "code red"
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Questionmarktarius
09/13/18 11:53:16 AM
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VipaGTS posted...
funny, when i was in school i never had to prepare for a murderer running in and shooting at my classmates...the fact that we have to now have a drill for this, seemingly normalizing the event is terrible.

Neither a tornado nor atom bomb ever tore up my school, but we practiced for such anyway.
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Tmaster148
09/13/18 11:53:17 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
I get the idea. But I don't think desensitizing kids to gun fire will go a well as they think.


Being able to remain calm in stressful scenarios is good. Should the military not do live fire training?


It's more like drills will happen far more often than actual shootings training kids to not react to gunfire during drills isn't going to help them distinguish a shooting.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/13/18 11:54:01 AM
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I'm 30 and we absolutely did lock-down drills.
How old are you guys?
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Caution998
09/13/18 11:54:29 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
I'm 30 and we absolutely did lock-down drills.
How old are you guys?


Exactly. It's like they all forgot about Columbine.
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tremain07
09/13/18 11:54:36 AM
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Roshon posted...
VipaGTS posted...
Lordgold666 posted...
lifeamovie posted...
Trying to prepare for disasters, how terrible

^^

funny, when i was in school i never had to prepare for a murderer running in and shooting at my classmates...the fact that we have to now have a drill for this, seemingly normalizing the event is terrible.

Things change, for better or worse they change and you have no choice but to adapt to it accordingly because there's really no way to stop it. Welcome to cold hard and cruel reality.
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AsucaHayashi
09/13/18 11:55:05 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
VipaGTS posted...
funny, when i was in school i never had to prepare for a murderer running in and shooting at my classmates...the fact that we have to now have a drill for this, seemingly normalizing the event is terrible.

Neither a tornado nor atom bomb ever tore up my school, but we practiced for such anyway.


i didn't know they sold tornadoes down at the local store.
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SageHarpuia
09/13/18 11:55:32 AM
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tremain07 posted...
Roshon posted...
VipaGTS posted...
Lordgold666 posted...
lifeamovie posted...
Trying to prepare for disasters, how terrible

^^

funny, when i was in school i never had to prepare for a murderer running in and shooting at my classmates...the fact that we have to now have a drill for this, seemingly normalizing the event is terrible.

Things change, for better or worse they change and you have no choice but to adapt to it accordingly because there's really no way to stop it. Welcome to cold hard and cruel reality.

But if we just banned guns...
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darkjedilink
09/13/18 11:55:56 AM
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VipaGTS posted...
Lordgold666 posted...
lifeamovie posted...
Trying to prepare for disasters, how terrible

^^

funny, when i was in school i never had to prepare for a murderer running in and shooting at my classmates...the fact that we have to now have a drill for this, seemingly normalizing the event is terrible.

We don't need a drill for it. However, scared liberals THINK we do, so even though children are more likely to die in a bus accident on the way to or from school than by an active shooter, we have active shooter drills.
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darkjedilink
09/13/18 11:56:30 AM
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AsucaHayashi posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
VipaGTS posted...
funny, when i was in school i never had to prepare for a murderer running in and shooting at my classmates...the fact that we have to now have a drill for this, seemingly normalizing the event is terrible.

Neither a tornado nor atom bomb ever tore up my school, but we practiced for such anyway.

i didn't know they sold tornadoes down at the local store.

I didn't know they sold guns there, either.
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SageHarpuia
09/13/18 11:56:46 AM
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AsucaHayashi posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
VipaGTS posted...
funny, when i was in school i never had to prepare for a murderer running in and shooting at my classmates...the fact that we have to now have a drill for this, seemingly normalizing the event is terrible.

Neither a tornado nor atom bomb ever tore up my school, but we practiced for such anyway.


i didn't know they sold tornadoes down at the local store.

They don't sell school shooters either
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BWing
09/13/18 11:59:44 AM
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Caution998 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
I'm 30 and we absolutely did lock-down drills.
How old are you guys?


Exactly. It's like they all forgot about Columbine.

Lockdown drills are different than firing blanks
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/13/18 12:01:55 PM
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BWing posted...
Caution998 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
I'm 30 and we absolutely did lock-down drills.
How old are you guys?


Exactly. It's like they all forgot about Columbine.

Lockdown drills are different than firing blanks


Firing blanks is going to be a way to make lockdown drills more realistic.
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rikasa
09/13/18 12:07:23 PM
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it's definitely mostly a big performance from the people involved. different reasons but I guess some common ones, they want to feel like they're in danger, they genuinely believe it's going to happen, they see it as a strong political argument.

those statistics are really eye opening
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eston
09/13/18 12:15:16 PM
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It's weird, I don't ever remember doing drills and Columbine literally happened while I was in high school O_O
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Roshon
09/13/18 12:17:45 PM
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I do remember lockdown drills but the way this was described just didnt sound like a lockdown drill idk
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monkmith
09/13/18 12:21:31 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
AsucaHayashi posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
VipaGTS posted...
funny, when i was in school i never had to prepare for a murderer running in and shooting at my classmates...the fact that we have to now have a drill for this, seemingly normalizing the event is terrible.

Neither a tornado nor atom bomb ever tore up my school, but we practiced for such anyway.


i didn't know they sold tornadoes down at the local store.

They don't sell school shooters either

no, they just sell guns to them...
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CableZL
09/13/18 12:23:16 PM
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eston posted...
It's weird, I don't ever remember doing drills and Columbine literally happened while I was in high school O_O

My schools didn't have active shooter drills, either
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Dark_Spiret
09/13/18 12:27:10 PM
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i also didnt have those kinds of drills. its one thing to be prepared, but it also seems like its making a bigger issue than it needs to be. not saying dead kids isnt serious, but you also have a higher chance of getting struck by lightning than you do being shot at school.
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Buzz Killjoy
09/13/18 12:27:18 PM
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Highwind07 posted...
I also saw a topic on Reddit about this and one of the most upvoted posts was one that stated that the police actually learned a lot about how bad their own response time was and promised to improve on it.


I didn't see in the article whether the police were going to conduct a full-scale response drill during this event, but I can't see why anybody would complain about it if they were. I imagine live-fire training scenarios are about the only way to try and prepare responders for what they might actually have to deal with in a crowded building like this.

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theAteam
09/13/18 12:28:00 PM
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No way this could backfire in kids thinking the real thing is a drill because those loud bangs are always present during drills.
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Axiom
09/13/18 12:29:59 PM
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America where mass shootings are so common they now have school drills for them
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theAteam
09/13/18 12:32:37 PM
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Axiom posted...
America where mass shootings are so common they now have school drills for them


We had "Mr. Green" drills where they'd get on the PA system and call Mr. Green to the office. That was everyone's cue to lock their classroom doors and huddle everyone in the corner. This was back in the early 2000s.
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monkmith
09/13/18 12:32:46 PM
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they should designate one person on scene as the 'good guy with a gun', give him one and watch hilarity ensue as he accidentally shoots people fleeing the mass shooter ending with him getting gunned down by the cops as they clear the scene.
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Swagnificent119
09/13/18 12:33:52 PM
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eston posted...
Seems a little overdramatic

Like when you do a fire drill you don't rent a bunch of smoke machines, lol


Yeah, but you do set the alarms off...
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Caution998
09/13/18 12:33:57 PM
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This is only going to help.

Obviously, this doesn't mean we don't take steps to ensure this thing can't happen in other ways, but if it does, it's good to have some preparation.
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Philip027
09/13/18 12:34:05 PM
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Always thought most school drills were absolutely stupid.

If a real fire happens and it's actually close enough to be a threat, classes aren't just going to line up and walk out in an orderly fashion out to the open field. They're just going to get the hell out of dodge. Be real here.

If some real maniac with a gun shows up, it's up to the school staff to know what to do and shut up their classrooms appropriately. That responsibility doesn't fall on the kids.

Absolutely guaranteed that most kids treat drills as an extra recess of sorts, cuz that's basically what it was.
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darkjedilink
09/13/18 12:34:51 PM
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monkmith posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
AsucaHayashi posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
VipaGTS posted...
funny, when i was in school i never had to prepare for a murderer running in and shooting at my classmates...the fact that we have to now have a drill for this, seemingly normalizing the event is terrible.

Neither a tornado nor atom bomb ever tore up my school, but we practiced for such anyway.


i didn't know they sold tornadoes down at the local store.

They don't sell school shooters either

no, they just sell guns to them...

Actually, most school shooters steal the guns they use from their first victims.
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monkmith
09/13/18 12:37:06 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
monkmith posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
AsucaHayashi posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
VipaGTS posted...
funny, when i was in school i never had to prepare for a murderer running in and shooting at my classmates...the fact that we have to now have a drill for this, seemingly normalizing the event is terrible.

Neither a tornado nor atom bomb ever tore up my school, but we practiced for such anyway.


i didn't know they sold tornadoes down at the local store.

They don't sell school shooters either

no, they just sell guns to them...

Actually, most school shooters steal the guns they use from their first victims.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/mass-shooters-use-loopholes-lapses-in-checks-to-get-guns
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