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cjsdowg
09/11/18 5:54:49 AM
#357:


MeowMix101 posted...

could be because she blamed racism so they drew the opponent I am guessing how Serena saw her opponent at the time aka the opponent may as well been white to her


WOW just wow. Anything excuse for this BS.
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unpleasant_milk
09/11/18 5:59:14 AM
#358:


Darmik posted...
unpleasant_milk posted...
Darmik posted...
unpleasant_milk posted...
Darmik posted...
MeowMix101 posted...
StarLightGlimmR posted...
In this context, the black guys are what matter here^

looks more like a white person turning a blind eye to some bad eggs ruining the name of Africans cause it would destroy there cause for acknowledging every group has bad eggs and there are people other than white people to blame for things.


What?

It's fear mongering 'African gangs are taking over Melbourne' bullshit.

From what Ive learnt about that, these areas have become noticeably worse ( ie more crime, vandalism, littered) since the numbers of African immigrants substantially increased.

If its racist to draw attention to a colleration then perhaps the dog whistle waycist calls are part of the problem


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-11/melbourne-sudanese-crime-statistics-victoria/10065402

No.


Umm, have a look again at your stats.

For Sudan, its nationals (who make up such a minute % of the pop) sure do commit a disprotionate amount of the crime.


They take up 1%

How much of an impact could they possibly have. 879 out of 80,000.


Well they certainly make a disproportionatly criminal impact, compared against the natural born pop
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MeowMix101
09/11/18 6:02:48 AM
#359:


cjsdowg posted...
MeowMix101 posted...

could be because she blamed racism so they drew the opponent I am guessing how Serena saw her opponent at the time aka the opponent may as well been white to her


WOW just wow. Anything excuse for this BS.

not excusing the art but the fact she blamed racism and sexism for being treated slightly better(got away with more) than a white male tennis players(if I remember correctly same ref, though I still have to double check the video comparisons again) who got away with less and got punished same amount
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scorpion41
09/11/18 6:11:56 AM
#360:


The cartoon isnt racist. The image is depicting her as a big baby, so its hard to draw a flattering image of her being mad and stomping. As far as the other player depicted, I think they are poking fun at the fact that shell get mad like this against any future opponents. It could be any one of the typical blonde white women that litter womens tennis.
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cjsdowg
09/11/18 6:46:48 AM
#361:


More art work from this guy.

https://twitter.com/wkamaubell/status/1039359716411883520
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chrono625
09/11/18 7:00:00 AM
#362:


cjsdowg posted...
More art work from this guy.

https://twitter.com/wkamaubell/status/1039359716411883520


Seems like artist has quite the history of caricatures.

Including depictions of Trump/Putin, Zuckerberg, male tennis player Nick Kyrigos and others.

But why is it a problem now? Are blacks not allowed to be caricatures anymore?
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Howl
09/11/18 7:19:41 AM
#363:


chrono625 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
More art work from this guy.

https://twitter.com/wkamaubell/status/1039359716411883520


Seems like artist has quite the history of caricatures.

Including depictions of Trump/Putin, Zuckerberg, male tennis player Nick Kyrigos and others.

But why is it a problem now? Are blacks not allowed to be caricatures anymore?


Of course not. Even when they act like complete assholes.
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Taharqa_
09/11/18 7:27:49 AM
#364:


chrono625 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
More art work from this guy.

https://twitter.com/wkamaubell/status/1039359716411883520


Seems like artist has quite the history of caricatures.

Including depictions of Trump/Putin, Zuckerberg, male tennis player Nick Kyrigos and others.

But why is it a problem now? Are blacks not allowed to be caricatures anymore?


Not goddamn Mammy caricatures.
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bevan306
09/11/18 7:28:36 AM
#365:


Hawaiian_punch posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
https://twitter.com/Knightcartoons/status/1039017329030393856?s=19


That hair... those lips... that nose.

Yes this is racist as fuck

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Mister_Spyker
09/11/18 7:43:07 AM
#366:


He deleted his twitter account. Wow.
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Fam_Fam
09/11/18 7:51:20 AM
#367:


i also can't help but feel it was deliberate, for the attention
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chrono625
09/11/18 7:53:05 AM
#368:


Taharqa_ posted...
chrono625 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
More art work from this guy.

https://twitter.com/wkamaubell/status/1039359716411883520


Seems like artist has quite the history of caricatures.

Including depictions of Trump/Putin, Zuckerberg, male tennis player Nick Kyrigos and others.

But why is it a problem now? Are blacks not allowed to be caricatures anymore?


Not goddamn Mammy caricatures.


The entire point of caricatures to exaggerate physical features and this is done to any and every race.

There should be no exceptions as it's a form of artistic expression.

https://www.google.com/search?q=obama+caricature&oq=obama+cari&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.4960j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Should we now protest and ban the use of Obama caricatures? It's a totally absurd fight to start.
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Taharqa_
09/11/18 7:53:57 AM
#369:


chrono625 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
chrono625 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
More art work from this guy.

https://twitter.com/wkamaubell/status/1039359716411883520


Seems like artist has quite the history of caricatures.

Including depictions of Trump/Putin, Zuckerberg, male tennis player Nick Kyrigos and others.

But why is it a problem now? Are blacks not allowed to be caricatures anymore?


Not goddamn Mammy caricatures.


The entire point of caricatures to exaggerate physical features and this is done to any and every race.

There should be no exceptions as it's a form of artistic expression.

https://www.google.com/search?q=obama+caricature&oq=obama+cari&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.4960j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Should we now protest and ban the use of Obama caricatures? It's a totally absurd fight to start.


Those Obama drawings aren't even close to being the same, come on now.
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chrono625
09/11/18 7:58:51 AM
#370:


Taharqa_ posted...
Those Obama drawings aren't even close to being the same, come on now.


How are they not the same?

I see exaggerations of his physical appearance. The artist did the same thing to Serena.

Does Serena not have a muscular figure? Does she not have frizzy/curly hair? You want to argue the lips and nose, but again, even some of those Obama portraits have exaggerations to his lips, ears, teeth and other things.

I raise the question again; how is Serenas depiction here wrong and Obamas is OK?

And the argument about the judge being white and the opponent being white is totally not relevant. They aren't the focal point of the cartoon. If he re-drew Ramos and Osaka instead, does it really change the point of the image?
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NinjaBreakfast
09/11/18 7:59:17 AM
#371:


again, newspaper cartoons are typically meant to satirically skewer a person or event. Given Serena Williams has roundly been criticised for her on court behaviour the other day anyway, I'm not sure how that was ever meant to be achieved here. You get the feeling the artist just wanted to draw an exaggerated racially charged caricature of a black person and saw it as the perfect excuse.
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FrisbeeDude
09/11/18 7:59:52 AM
#372:


Mister_Spyker posted...
He deleted his twitter account. Wow.


Good. I hope people mass reported that garbage.
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Taharqa_
09/11/18 8:00:44 AM
#374:


chrono625 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Those Obama drawings aren't even close to being the same, come on now.


How are they not the same?

I see exaggerations of his physical appearance. The artist did the same thing to Serena.

Does Serena not have a muscular figure? Does she not have frizzy/curly hair? You want to argue the lips and nose, but again, even some of those Obama portraits have exaggerations to his lips, ears, teeth and other things.

I raise the question again; how is Serenas depiction here wrong and Obamas is OK?

And the argument about the judge being white and the opponent being white is totally not relevant. They aren't the focal point of the cartoon. If he re-drew Ramos and Osaka instead, does it really change the point of the image?


Serena's depiction is a fucking Mammy caricature, do you not get that? And it's interesting how he whitened the Haitian/Japanese player in the background.
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gatorsPENSbucs
09/11/18 8:02:29 AM
#375:


Are people still saying the comic was racist? Lol how hilarious.
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CyricZ
09/11/18 8:03:29 AM
#376:


Taharqa_ posted...
And it's interesting how he whitened the Haitian/Japanese player in the background.

This. As soon as you're downplaying the race of the opponent to a "white default", any claims about the "exaggerated caricature" nature of the subject go out the window.
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chrono625
09/11/18 8:04:52 AM
#377:


Taharqa_ posted...
Serena's depiction is a fucking Mammy caricature, do you not get that?


Yeah. I don't get it. Cause I don't see an equivalent to an "Aunt Jemima" character here.

I see an interpretation via caricature of Serena Williams with strong connotations to her being a baby. With exaggerations to her physical appearance that are the central point to caricature are styles.

Which is why I referenced Obama caricatures because they achieve the same exact thing.
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chrono625
09/11/18 8:06:05 AM
#378:


CyricZ posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
And it's interesting how he whitened the Haitian/Japanese player in the background.

This. As soon as you're downplaying the race of the opponent to a "white default", any claims about the "exaggerated caricature" nature of the subject go out the window.


You're assuming this was supposed to be a shot for shot drawing of the US Open and not just generic secondary and tertiary characters to add to the cartoon.

You're reaching.
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FrisbeeDude
09/11/18 8:08:08 AM
#379:


chrono625 posted...
CyricZ posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
And it's interesting how he whitened the Haitian/Japanese player in the background.

This. As soon as you're downplaying the race of the opponent to a "white default", any claims about the "exaggerated caricature" nature of the subject go out the window.


You're assuming this was supposed to be a shot for shot drawing of the US Open and not just generic secondary and tertiary characters to add to the cartoon.

You're reaching.


lmao this is what white people truly expect the rest of us to believe
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CyricZ
09/11/18 8:08:27 AM
#380:


chrono625 posted...
You're assuming this was supposed to be a shot for shot drawing of the US Open and not just generic secondary and tertiary characters to add to the cartoon.

It was the event that inspired the comic. How is that reaching?
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NinjaBreakfast
09/11/18 8:08:44 AM
#381:


why would it not be a representation of the very match that has incited all of this
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MeowMix101
09/11/18 8:10:09 AM
#382:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Mister_Spyker posted...
He deleted his twitter account. Wow.


Good. I hope people mass reported that garbage.

my guess more likely was death threats the people who report usually give threats more than actual reports(only when harassing fails do they go to reporting)
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chrono625
09/11/18 8:12:02 AM
#383:


CyricZ posted...
chrono625 posted...
You're assuming this was supposed to be a shot for shot drawing of the US Open and not just generic secondary and tertiary characters to add to the cartoon.

It was the event that inspired the comic. How is that reaching?


Because Serena has a history of bickering with judges when things do not go her way. Best womens player, probably in this history of the sport. Yet she has had meltdowns before.

And even IF the artist drew the judge to be "spanish looking" and the opposing player to be "haitian/asian" does it really change the point of the cartoon?

If your answer is yes, please explain why it would make any difference whatsoever. If it's no, then you're reaching for things to be angry about.
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Philip027
09/11/18 8:20:48 AM
#384:


Who gives a shit what anyone else in the comic looked like? They aren't the focal point.

Person who drew it probably gave as much of a shit about getting an accurate depiction of the other person as we're supposed to.
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Duck-Butter
09/11/18 8:48:11 AM
#385:


NeonOctopus posted...
This is why Trump won


because of white people.the same ones posting ignorance in this topic.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
09/11/18 8:49:45 AM
#386:


Look at all the triggered white people.

Its apparently racist that the artist didnt care who the other person was in a Serena-focused story.

Get over yourselves.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
09/11/18 8:52:56 AM
#387:


CyricZ posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
And it's interesting how he whitened the Haitian/Japanese player in the background.

This. As soon as you're downplaying the race of the opponent to a "white default", any claims about the "exaggerated caricature" nature of the subject go out the window.

What in the holy fuck are you trying to say?
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NinjaBreakfast
09/11/18 8:53:35 AM
#388:


how does one reconcile the 'her tantrum took away from osakas moment!' narrative with 'it doesn't matter if they're erased from all subsequent analysis of the game'
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chrono625
09/11/18 8:58:38 AM
#389:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
how does one reconcile the 'her tantrum took away from osakas moment!' narrative with 'it doesn't matter if they're erased from all subsequent analysis of the game'


If this was an isolated incident, which it isnt, you MAY have a point.

And that's not the narrative and purpose of this particular cartoon.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
09/11/18 9:03:05 AM
#390:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
how does one reconcile the 'her tantrum took away from osakas moment!' narrative with 'it doesn't matter if they're erased from all subsequent analysis of the game'


Nobody gives a fuck about "Osaka's moment", but nice try.

This is about the famous tennis player Serena Williams. Thinking its racist that only one appears in this comic just goes to show EVERYTHING is racist to tge people that want it to be.

Get over it.
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Flamazide
09/11/18 9:03:17 AM
#391:


It's very disgusting how a bunch of (presumably) white people think they can tell black people what is and is it not racist and what we should and should not be offended by and how dismissive they are when the problem is explained to them. There are multiple issues in this topic. It's pretty sad.
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NinjaBreakfast
09/11/18 9:07:30 AM
#392:


Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Nobody gives a fuck about "Osaka's moment",

I agree but that doesn't stop them pretending they do!
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gatorsPENSbucs
09/11/18 9:08:14 AM
#393:


Flamazide posted...
It's very disgusting how a bunch of (presumably) white people think they can tell black people what is and is it not racist and what we should and should not be offended by and how dismissive they are when the problem is explained to them. There are multiple issues in this topic. It's pretty sad.

Nah, what's sad is you all getting offended by the dumbest silliest shit and then somehow it's the white mans fault and the white man this the white man that. Shit really is funny and makes for some great reading.
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Flamazide
09/11/18 9:10:33 AM
#394:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Flamazide posted...
It's very disgusting how a bunch of (presumably) white people think they can tell black people what is and is it not racist and what we should and should not be offended by and how dismissive they are when the problem is explained to them. There are multiple issues in this topic. It's pretty sad.

Nah, what's sad is you all getting offended by the dumbest silliest shit and then somehow it's the white mans fault and the white man this the white man that. Shit really is funny and makes for some great reading.

Lol okay bro.

What are you like in person by the way? I'm curious if you're this repulsive or if you only do this online because you can hide behind the anonymity. Or is this strictly "trolling" for you which is equally idiotic? What would the troll even be? "HA, I MADE YOU THINK I'M RACIST! I TRICKED YOU!"
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Jerry_Hellyeah
09/11/18 9:14:06 AM
#395:


Flamazide posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Flamazide posted...
It's very disgusting how a bunch of (presumably) white people think they can tell black people what is and is it not racist and what we should and should not be offended by and how dismissive they are when the problem is explained to them. There are multiple issues in this topic. It's pretty sad.

Nah, what's sad is you all getting offended by the dumbest silliest shit and then somehow it's the white mans fault and the white man this the white man that. Shit really is funny and makes for some great reading.

Lol okay bro.

What are you like in person by the way? I'm curious if you're this repulsive or if you only do this online because you can hide behind the anonymity. Or is this strictly "trolling" for you which is equally idiotic? What would the troll even be? "HA, I MADE YOU THINK I'M RACIST! I TRICKED YOU!"


Dude, shut the fuck up. You just shit yourself out of need for more racism.
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Flamazide
09/11/18 9:17:06 AM
#396:


Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Flamazide posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Flamazide posted...
It's very disgusting how a bunch of (presumably) white people think they can tell black people what is and is it not racist and what we should and should not be offended by and how dismissive they are when the problem is explained to them. There are multiple issues in this topic. It's pretty sad.

Nah, what's sad is you all getting offended by the dumbest silliest shit and then somehow it's the white mans fault and the white man this the white man that. Shit really is funny and makes for some great reading.

Lol okay bro.

What are you like in person by the way? I'm curious if you're this repulsive or if you only do this online because you can hide behind the anonymity. Or is this strictly "trolling" for you which is equally idiotic? What would the troll even be? "HA, I MADE YOU THINK I'M RACIST! I TRICKED YOU!"


Dude, shut the fuck up. You just shit yourself out of need for more racism.

Bwahahahaha.
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Dyinglegacy
09/11/18 9:20:40 AM
#397:


Get this dumb shit to 500 already, that way it clears off my damn history.

So fuckin' done.

Tired of it happening, tired of hearing about it happening. Just tired of being tired.

Spam emojis or some shit for the last 100 posts.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
09/11/18 9:22:32 AM
#398:


Flamazide posted...
Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Flamazide posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Flamazide posted...
It's very disgusting how a bunch of (presumably) white people think they can tell black people what is and is it not racist and what we should and should not be offended by and how dismissive they are when the problem is explained to them. There are multiple issues in this topic. It's pretty sad.

Nah, what's sad is you all getting offended by the dumbest silliest shit and then somehow it's the white mans fault and the white man this the white man that. Shit really is funny and makes for some great reading.

Lol okay bro.

What are you like in person by the way? I'm curious if you're this repulsive or if you only do this online because you can hide behind the anonymity. Or is this strictly "trolling" for you which is equally idiotic? What would the troll even be? "HA, I MADE YOU THINK I'M RACIST! I TRICKED YOU!"


Dude, shut the fuck up. You just shit yourself out of need for more racism.

Bwahahahaha.


Oh, theres still a little more falling out of your mouth, lemme just wipe that up for you....

There you go. Now go out there and get oppressed!
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Flamazide
09/11/18 9:26:20 AM
#399:


Dyinglegacy posted...
Get this dumb shit to 500 already, that way it clears off my damn history.

So fuckin' done.

Tired of it happening, tired of hearing about it happening. Just tired of being tired.

Spam emojis or some shit for the last 100 posts.

I will see if I can help.
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gatorsPENSbucs
09/11/18 9:28:44 AM
#400:


Flamazide posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Flamazide posted...
It's very disgusting how a bunch of (presumably) white people think they can tell black people what is and is it not racist and what we should and should not be offended by and how dismissive they are when the problem is explained to them. There are multiple issues in this topic. It's pretty sad.

Nah, what's sad is you all getting offended by the dumbest silliest shit and then somehow it's the white mans fault and the white man this the white man that. Shit really is funny and makes for some great reading.

Lol okay bro.

What are you like in person by the way? I'm curious if you're this repulsive or if you only do this online because you can hide behind the anonymity. Or is this strictly "trolling" for you which is equally idiotic? What would the troll even be? "HA, I MADE YOU THINK I'M RACIST! I TRICKED YOU!"

And what's your gimmick, just call everything racist hoping that one time you might actually be right? Or spewing out nonsense and then resorting to whatever you just said when you realize you have nothing, is that your gimmick?
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Flamazide
09/11/18 9:30:50 AM
#401:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Flamazide posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Flamazide posted...
It's very disgusting how a bunch of (presumably) white people think they can tell black people what is and is it not racist and what we should and should not be offended by and how dismissive they are when the problem is explained to them. There are multiple issues in this topic. It's pretty sad.

Nah, what's sad is you all getting offended by the dumbest silliest shit and then somehow it's the white mans fault and the white man this the white man that. Shit really is funny and makes for some great reading.

Lol okay bro.

What are you like in person by the way? I'm curious if you're this repulsive or if you only do this online because you can hide behind the anonymity. Or is this strictly "trolling" for you which is equally idiotic? What would the troll even be? "HA, I MADE YOU THINK I'M RACIST! I TRICKED YOU!"

And what's your gimmick, just call everything racist hoping that one time you might actually be right? Or spewing out nonsense and then resorting to whatever you just said when you realize you have nothing, is that your gimmick?

Not everyone has a gimmick. The entire concept of a gimmick is pretty weird. To me it either means that you're incapable of responding seriously due to a lack of maturity or you're so dissatisfied with your personality that you have to fabricate a persona to interact with other humans in any context.
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gatorsPENSbucs
09/11/18 9:48:45 AM
#402:


Wait, so what you're doing isn't a gimmick? Oh shit, man, my bad, I didn't realize. Well best of luck to you.
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White Eagle
09/11/18 9:55:08 AM
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I googled mammy to find out what people are talking about. The lips are really the only thing the cartoonist went overboard on, and that could have been to draw attention to her whinging. The cartoonist drew Serena with toned muscles, ffs.

I would have preferred that Osaka was drawn perfectly, but it's really not the point in a satire of Serena's behavior.

This is the THIRD U.S. Open final that Serena was losing and got disciplined by the chair umpire, but her sycophants are going to plug their ears, close their eyes, and shout about how the world is racist, sexist, and out to get her.

Again:

tl,dr: The cartoon may have stepped over a line, but the general sentiment and fact that Serena whined and got what she deserved on Saturday is still true. People who don't follow tennis will see this and decide the incident must be an example of racism and sexism after all.

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Flamazide
09/11/18 9:55:54 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Wait, so what you're doing isn't a gimmick? Oh shit, man, my bad, I didn't realize. Well best of luck to you.

I had a crush on this girl, we used to smoke indo. She lived across the street I threw a rock through her window. As a kid I wasnt making any sense,screaming out her name standing naked on a fence.
She called the cops; I been hating ever since. Sometimes I still look back and think of what we might have been.

That broken glass cost me seven hundred bucks. I was eleven, man, seven hundred bucks man fuck man. I seen her the other night hanging off a brass pole high as a kite. Dancing at a strip club, she got picked up I got my dick sucked, she got tit fucked. She sucked my ball sack and licked my asshole
I **** in her hair then she called me an asshole. Then I called her a cab and gave her five bucks said thats all that I have.
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NinjaBreakfast
09/11/18 9:56:37 AM
#405:


White Eagle posted...
that could have been to draw attention to her whinging

Lol
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CyricZ
09/11/18 9:58:19 AM
#406:


Any good faith in this discussion has long since evaporated. I'm with Dyinglegacy.
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Flamazide
09/11/18 10:05:42 AM
#407:


CyricZ posted...
Any good faith in this discussion has long since evaporated. I'm with Dyinglegacy.

Yeah I'm just going to say things. All of the things.
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