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TheY2AProblem
09/10/18 10:08:09 PM
#307:


clearaflagrantj posted...
Solid Snake07 posted...
I don't see anything racist. It's not flattering, but cartoons meant to make fun of someone usually aren't

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BonBonTheCutest
09/10/18 10:34:16 PM
#309:


ProTip: Don't turn yourself into a caricature like Serena did here
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Howl
09/10/18 11:20:51 PM
#310:


treewojima posted...
let me guess - 7 pages of trolling?


Yeah there's people here actually trying to make the claim that that picture is racist. It's a pretty pathetic form of trolling nonetheless.
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mybbqrules
09/10/18 11:37:13 PM
#311:


Wow, that's in poor taste. All that's missing is a bone in her nose and a spear in her hand to make the earth spin out of its orbit and crash into the sun.

Edit: Just watched Serena's behavior, and the caricature argument makes a bit more sense now. But there's still no excuse for her opponent suddenly switching races.
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cjsdowg
09/10/18 11:38:33 PM
#312:


_Krave_ posted...
This baffles me.

It sounds like people are literally saying black people should not be made fun of. Like they're exempt from being put in a satire if they're not depicted as shining gods.

You do realize that special treatment like that is condescending and offensive, right?


She was turn into a mammy, you can draw her in funny manner but a damn mammy.
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cjsdowg
09/10/18 11:40:18 PM
#313:


White Eagle posted...
omfg it's a caricature of Serena's behavior, not a god damn still life portrait.


So if Jewish player was made with a huge nose and things like that you would support it ?
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VTBM
09/10/18 11:41:44 PM
#314:


cjsdowg posted...
White Eagle posted...
omfg it's a caricature of Serena's behavior, not a god damn still life portrait.


So if Jewish player was made with a huge nose and things like that you would support it ?


I would.
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Howl
09/10/18 11:49:45 PM
#315:


cjsdowg posted...
White Eagle posted...
omfg it's a caricature of Serena's behavior, not a god damn still life portrait.


So if Jewish player was made with a huge nose and things like that you would support it ?


Yeah people draw Jewish people charicatures like that all the fucking time tbh.
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QwelzaarKane
09/10/18 11:49:59 PM
#316:


As soon as I saw her lips it was pretty fucking obvious. Everything else just piles on to the wtf factor. Not all caricatures of black people are racist but this wouldn't be any more blatant if she had fur.
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FrisbeeDude
09/10/18 11:51:46 PM
#317:


Howl posted...
cjsdowg posted...
White Eagle posted...
omfg it's a caricature of Serena's behavior, not a god damn still life portrait.


So if Jewish player was made with a huge nose and things like that you would support it ?


Yeah people draw Jewish people charicatures like that all the fucking time tbh.


any recent examples?
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cjsdowg
09/10/18 11:53:56 PM
#318:


VTBM posted...


I would.


So think the Happy Merchant drawing, is ok ?
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Howl
09/10/18 11:54:56 PM
#319:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Howl posted...
cjsdowg posted...
White Eagle posted...
omfg it's a caricature of Serena's behavior, not a god damn still life portrait.


So if Jewish player was made with a huge nose and things like that you would support it ?


Yeah people draw Jewish people charicatures like that all the fucking time tbh.


any recent examples?


Look up Charlie Hebdo. I'm not posting a link for some mod to decide it's "offensive."
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cjsdowg
09/10/18 11:56:21 PM
#320:


Howl posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Howl posted...
cjsdowg posted...
White Eagle posted...
omfg it's a caricature of Serena's behavior, not a god damn still life portrait.


So if Jewish player was made with a huge nose and things like that you would support it ?


Yeah people draw Jewish people charicatures like that all the fucking time tbh.


any recent examples?


Look up Charlie Hebdo. I'm not posting a link for some mod to decide it's "offensive."


So people would think it is offensive.. thus proving the point.
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Howl
09/10/18 11:58:24 PM
#321:


cjsdowg posted...
Howl posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Howl posted...
cjsdowg posted...
White Eagle posted...
omfg it's a caricature of Serena's behavior, not a god damn still life portrait.


So if Jewish player was made with a huge nose and things like that you would support it ?


Yeah people draw Jewish people charicatures like that all the fucking time tbh.


any recent examples?


Look up Charlie Hebdo. I'm not posting a link for some mod to decide it's "offensive."


So people would think it is offensive.. thus proving the point.


Some mods here may think so. That doesn't mean that they're correct.
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Bishop9800
09/10/18 11:59:03 PM
#322:


Howl posted...

Some mods here may think so. That doesn't mean that they're correct.


and what makes you think you are?
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Howl
09/11/18 12:00:13 AM
#323:


The irony is that if I posted that same link of the Serena Williams picture praising it, it probably would have been modded if I didn't condemn it in the OP as TC did.
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Howl
09/11/18 12:00:56 AM
#324:


Bishop9800 posted...
Howl posted...

Some mods here may think so. That doesn't mean that they're correct.


and what makes you think you are?


What makes you think I'm wrong?
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C_Pain
09/11/18 12:02:22 AM
#325:


imagine calling something racist
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cjsdowg
09/11/18 12:03:07 AM
#326:


C_Pain posted...
imagine calling something racist


Yeah imagine calling racist stuff racist.
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Bishop9800
09/11/18 12:15:52 AM
#327:


Howl posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Howl posted...

Some mods here may think so. That doesn't mean that they're correct.


and what makes you think you are?


What makes you think I'm wrong?


what makes you think you're right?
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White Eagle
09/11/18 2:08:37 AM
#328:


cjsdowg posted...
White Eagle posted...
omfg it's a caricature of Serena's behavior, not a god damn still life portrait.

So if Jewish player was made with a huge nose and things like that you would support it ?

*throw up arms in exasperation*

IDK, does the person in question have a big nose? What does that have to do with Serena?

From my earlier post:

tl,dr: The cartoon may have stepped over a line, but the general sentiment and fact that Serena whined and got what she deserved on Saturday is still true. People who don't follow tennis will see this and decide the incident must be an example of racism and sexism after all.

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nn-DMT
09/11/18 2:10:31 AM
#329:


so much cancer on the first page of posts. the drawing is done in a mocking way
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nn-DMT
09/11/18 2:27:28 AM
#330:


if you cant see that the drawing is made out to look like a monkey, then you're a fool or just trying to be an edgy racist
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Darmik
09/11/18 2:55:20 AM
#331:


So did anyone bring up this old comic from the same paper/artist?

VDskYzn

Does he still deserve the benefit of the doubt?
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LuffySkull
09/11/18 3:19:12 AM
#332:


Just the usual suspects doing their shtick of things cant be racist
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Sphyx
09/11/18 3:23:33 AM
#333:


I have to wonder what this means for caricatures in general.
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UnfairRepresent
09/11/18 4:10:32 AM
#334:


White Eagle posted...
People here only say "it was okay when McEnroe did it" because most people here are American and since he is American, the American media portrays him as "good ole Johnny Mac," and most people online are too young to remember just how much he used to get in trouble.

yeah he was a laughing stock and fined constantly
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StarLightGlimmR
09/11/18 4:12:26 AM
#335:


Darmik posted...
So did anyone bring up this old comic from the same paper/artist?

VDskYzn

Does he still deserve the benefit of the doubt?


What's wrong with this pic?
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Kastrada
09/11/18 4:14:05 AM
#336:


StarLightGlimmR posted...
Darmik posted...
So did anyone bring up this old comic from the same paper/artist?

VDskYzn

Does he still deserve the benefit of the doubt?


What's wrong with this pic?


You don't see that only black guys are comitting crimes?
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NinjaBreakfast
09/11/18 4:16:52 AM
#337:


don't newspaper comics at least try to make a social point or poke fun at a particular position? Where is that here
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StarLightGlimmR
09/11/18 4:17:14 AM
#338:


In this context, the black guys are what matter here^
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StarLightGlimmR
09/11/18 4:18:15 AM
#339:


BonBonTheCutest posted...
ProTip: Don't turn yourself into a caricature like Serena did here
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MakoReizei
09/11/18 4:19:39 AM
#340:


Solid Snake07 posted...
I don't see anything racist. It's not flattering, but cartoons meant to make fun of someone usually aren't

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MeowMix101
09/11/18 4:22:16 AM
#341:


StarLightGlimmR posted...
In this context, the black guys are what matter here^

looks more like a white person turning a blind eye to some bad eggs ruining the name of Africans cause it would destroy there cause for acknowledging every group has bad eggs and there are people other than white people to blame for things.
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unpleasant_milk
09/11/18 4:24:33 AM
#342:


darkjedilink posted...
metralo posted...
black person drawn as a complete parody of black people similar to what white people depicted black people as decades ago - Durrrr how is this racist???? from the usual suspects

conservatives arent racist tho

When the woman in question is large, has large lips, a large nose, and big curly hair in real life?


Exactly. It is a caricature - of lets face it, a very stroppy and ill behaved black woman who lost her shit bigtime.
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MeowMix101
09/11/18 4:26:15 AM
#343:


unpleasant_milk posted...
darkjedilink posted...
metralo posted...
black person drawn as a complete parody of black people similar to what white people depicted black people as decades ago - Durrrr how is this racist???? from the usual suspects

conservatives arent racist tho

When the woman in question is large, has large lips, a large nose, and big curly hair in real life?


Exactly. It is a caricature - of lets face it, a very stroppy and ill behaved black woman who lost her shit bigtime.

truthfully the big lips could be because they are being drawn as one would draw crying toddler (big mouth to scream out those wahhhhhs)
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StarLightGlimmR
09/11/18 4:28:39 AM
#344:


Hawaiian_punch posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
https://twitter.com/Knightcartoons/status/1039017329030393856?s=19


That hair... those lips... that nose.


Looks like a human?

She earned this with her embarrassing behavior.
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MeowMix101
09/11/18 4:29:26 AM
#345:


StarLightGlimmR posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
https://twitter.com/Knightcartoons/status/1039017329030393856?s=19


That hair... those lips... that nose.


Looks like a human?

She earned this with her embarrassing behavior.

truthfully looks like one would draw screaming cartoon toddler
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Darmik
09/11/18 4:30:28 AM
#346:


MeowMix101 posted...
StarLightGlimmR posted...
In this context, the black guys are what matter here^

looks more like a white person turning a blind eye to some bad eggs ruining the name of Africans cause it would destroy there cause for acknowledging every group has bad eggs and there are people other than white people to blame for things.


What?

It's fear mongering 'African gangs are taking over Melbourne' bullshit.
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MeowMix101
09/11/18 4:33:56 AM
#347:


Darmik posted...
MeowMix101 posted...
StarLightGlimmR posted...
In this context, the black guys are what matter here^

looks more like a white person turning a blind eye to some bad eggs ruining the name of Africans cause it would destroy there cause for acknowledging every group has bad eggs and there are people other than white people to blame for things.


What?

It's fear mongering 'African gangs are taking over Melbourne' bullshit.

and a white person turning a blind eye to it, pretty much the statement if it is not seen did it happen. still can be fear mongering
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unpleasant_milk
09/11/18 4:37:29 AM
#348:


Darmik posted...
MeowMix101 posted...
StarLightGlimmR posted...
In this context, the black guys are what matter here^

looks more like a white person turning a blind eye to some bad eggs ruining the name of Africans cause it would destroy there cause for acknowledging every group has bad eggs and there are people other than white people to blame for things.


What?

It's fear mongering 'African gangs are taking over Melbourne' bullshit.

From what Ive learnt about that, these areas have become noticeably worse ( ie more crime, vandalism, littered) since the numbers of African immigrants substantially increased.

If its racist to draw attention to a colleration then perhaps the dog whistle waycist calls are part of the problem
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StarLightGlimmR
09/11/18 4:43:29 AM
#349:


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Great cartoon. Petulant behaviour is not OK in sport. It deserves to be satirised. Although it seems that the SJWs think that the only fair target is white males! What has the world come to?
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Darmik
09/11/18 5:07:33 AM
#350:


unpleasant_milk posted...
Darmik posted...
MeowMix101 posted...
StarLightGlimmR posted...
In this context, the black guys are what matter here^

looks more like a white person turning a blind eye to some bad eggs ruining the name of Africans cause it would destroy there cause for acknowledging every group has bad eggs and there are people other than white people to blame for things.


What?

It's fear mongering 'African gangs are taking over Melbourne' bullshit.

From what Ive learnt about that, these areas have become noticeably worse ( ie more crime, vandalism, littered) since the numbers of African immigrants substantially increased.

If its racist to draw attention to a colleration then perhaps the dog whistle waycist calls are part of the problem


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-11/melbourne-sudanese-crime-statistics-victoria/10065402

No.
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unpleasant_milk
09/11/18 5:16:03 AM
#351:


Darmik posted...
unpleasant_milk posted...
Darmik posted...
MeowMix101 posted...
StarLightGlimmR posted...
In this context, the black guys are what matter here^

looks more like a white person turning a blind eye to some bad eggs ruining the name of Africans cause it would destroy there cause for acknowledging every group has bad eggs and there are people other than white people to blame for things.


What?

It's fear mongering 'African gangs are taking over Melbourne' bullshit.

From what Ive learnt about that, these areas have become noticeably worse ( ie more crime, vandalism, littered) since the numbers of African immigrants substantially increased.

If its racist to draw attention to a colleration then perhaps the dog whistle waycist calls are part of the problem


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-11/melbourne-sudanese-crime-statistics-victoria/10065402

No.


Umm, have a look again at your stats.

For Sudan, its nationals (who make up such a minute % of the pop) sure do commit a disprotionate amount of the crime.
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MeowMix101
09/11/18 5:22:45 AM
#352:


unpleasant_milk posted...
Darmik posted...
unpleasant_milk posted...
Darmik posted...
MeowMix101 posted...
StarLightGlimmR posted...
In this context, the black guys are what matter here^

looks more like a white person turning a blind eye to some bad eggs ruining the name of Africans cause it would destroy there cause for acknowledging every group has bad eggs and there are people other than white people to blame for things.


What?

It's fear mongering 'African gangs are taking over Melbourne' bullshit.

From what Ive learnt about that, these areas have become noticeably worse ( ie more crime, vandalism, littered) since the numbers of African immigrants substantially increased.

If its racist to draw attention to a colleration then perhaps the dog whistle waycist calls are part of the problem


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-11/melbourne-sudanese-crime-statistics-victoria/10065402

No.


Umm, have a look again at your stats.

For Sudan, its nationals (who make up such a minute % of the pop) sure do commit a disprotionate amount of the crime.

truthfully crime rates only matter if its reported so most crime reports are off by a bit still low af though
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Darmik
09/11/18 5:35:03 AM
#353:


unpleasant_milk posted...
Darmik posted...
unpleasant_milk posted...
Darmik posted...
MeowMix101 posted...
StarLightGlimmR posted...
In this context, the black guys are what matter here^

looks more like a white person turning a blind eye to some bad eggs ruining the name of Africans cause it would destroy there cause for acknowledging every group has bad eggs and there are people other than white people to blame for things.


What?

It's fear mongering 'African gangs are taking over Melbourne' bullshit.

From what Ive learnt about that, these areas have become noticeably worse ( ie more crime, vandalism, littered) since the numbers of African immigrants substantially increased.

If its racist to draw attention to a colleration then perhaps the dog whistle waycist calls are part of the problem


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-11/melbourne-sudanese-crime-statistics-victoria/10065402

No.


Umm, have a look again at your stats.

For Sudan, its nationals (who make up such a minute % of the pop) sure do commit a disprotionate amount of the crime.


They take up 1%

How much of an impact could they possibly have. 879 out of 80,000.
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Mister_Spyker
09/11/18 5:38:42 AM
#354:


It is perfectly normal for a cartoon to exaggerate someones' most prominent facial features. It looks racist because we associate it with the ancient racist depiction of black people, but it's just a cartoonified version of her. Though, I do believe Serena is one of the most beautiful celebrities out there, so it is hard to see her depicted in such a harsh light, but she kinda brought it on herself.
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cjsdowg
09/11/18 5:48:35 AM
#355:


Mister_Spyker posted...
is perfectly normal for a cartoon to exaggerate someones' most prominent facial features. It looks racist because we associate it with the ancient racist depiction of black people, but it's just a cartoonified version of her. Though, I do believe Serena is one of the most beautiful celebrities out there, so it is hard to see her depicted in such a harsh light, but she kinda brought it on herself.


One it is not ancient this shit was normal with in the life time of some of our older posters. Something that people keep dodging they made her into a Mammy, made this strong women into someone who is fat and changed her face like one wouldn't believe. To top that off he changes a Haitian girl into a blond white women.
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MeowMix101
09/11/18 5:51:26 AM
#356:


cjsdowg posted...
Mister_Spyker posted...
is perfectly normal for a cartoon to exaggerate someones' most prominent facial features. It looks racist because we associate it with the ancient racist depiction of black people, but it's just a cartoonified version of her. Though, I do believe Serena is one of the most beautiful celebrities out there, so it is hard to see her depicted in such a harsh light, but she kinda brought it on herself.


One it is not ancient this shit was normal with in the life time of some of our older posters. Something that people keep dodging they made her into a Mammy, made this strong women into someone who is fat and changed her face like one wouldn't believe. To top that off he changes a Haitian girl into a blond white women.

could be because she blamed racism so they drew the opponent I am guessing how Serena saw her opponent at the time aka the opponent may as well been white to her
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