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AvantgardeAClue
09/09/18 11:50:01 PM
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I don't know what compelled them to make the healing/ammo mechanics HARDER to utilize but that's all that's really new about it

Otherwise it's just Battlefield 1.5

I just hope they don't fuck up the next modern combat entry because this game will be abandoned within the year
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Vyrulisse
09/09/18 11:51:13 PM
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Is there only one map for the beta? I see a lot of complaints that a map is terrible and not good to show off with.
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s0nicfan
09/09/18 11:51:36 PM
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It's time for BF 2143. I hope DiCE had fun on this little historical diversion, but it's time to get back to the real game.
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Northlane
09/09/18 11:54:26 PM
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Battlefield is in its death throes as a series tbh

BF4 was the best FPS I ever played and ever since then the series has been dumbed down, released with a lack of content, and just been Battlefront'd into oblivion
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SuperMedz3
09/09/18 11:54:46 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
historical

Lol
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Vyrulisse
09/09/18 11:56:21 PM
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All these FPS games are just pew pew you shoot, you die, respawn, you shoot, you kill guy, you die again respawn...

A few years ago I used to imagine what games like that would be like and I'd be imagining these HUGE battles with wide open fields and various objectives etc... it seems we've regressed more and more.

Does Battlefield still have those kind of modes?
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MuayThai85
09/09/18 11:57:04 PM
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The gun play is vastly different to BF1. Running out into the open is actually dangerous now as the guns are definitely more deadly.

Vyrulisse posted...
Is there only one map for the beta? I see a lot of complaints that a map is terrible and not good to show off with.


2 maps. Narvik and Rotterdam.

Northlane posted...
Battlefield is in its death throes as a series tbh

BF4 was the best FPS I ever played and ever since then the series has been dumbed down, released with a lack of content, and just been Battlefront'd into oblivion


See, in my opinion BF4 was the worst of the mainline games (Hardline and BC1 were worse). Nothing has topped BF3 for me (PC, console version is a neutered mess).
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MuayThai85
09/09/18 11:58:20 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
All these FPS games are just pew pew you shoot, you die, respawn, you shoot, you kill guy, you die again respawn...

A few years ago I used to imagine what games like that would be like and I'd be imagining these HUGE battles with wide open fields and various objectives etc... it seems we've regressed more and more.

Does Battlefield still have those kind of modes?


Yes. Grand Operations is literally all about having various objectives. For Narvik day 1 is an airborne drop to take out artillery sites, day 2 is a rush style map where you have to capture certain objectives in order.
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Vyrulisse
09/10/18 12:07:54 AM
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MuayThai85 posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
All these FPS games are just pew pew you shoot, you die, respawn, you shoot, you kill guy, you die again respawn...

A few years ago I used to imagine what games like that would be like and I'd be imagining these HUGE battles with wide open fields and various objectives etc... it seems we've regressed more and more.

Does Battlefield still have those kind of modes?


Yes. Grand Operations is literally all about having various objectives. For Narvik day 1 is an airborne drop to take out artillery sites, day 2 is a rush style map where you have to capture certain objectives in order.

That's cool if it's got a large number of players. None of this small squad nonsense. I'm talkin' like Battlefield Vietnam and those oldies.
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AvantgardeAClue
09/10/18 12:10:59 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Is there only one map for the beta? I see a lot of complaints that a map is terrible and not good to show off with.


Rotterdam and I can't remember the other one

Rotterdam is just Amiens from Battlefield 1 and the other one has shit visibility
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Vyrulisse
09/10/18 12:12:45 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Is there only one map for the beta? I see a lot of complaints that a map is terrible and not good to show off with.


Rotterdam and I can't remember the other one

Rotterdam is just Amiens from Battlefield 1 and the other one has shit visibility

At least it's beta and they can fix it?
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OmegaShinkai
09/10/18 12:14:23 AM
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Northlane posted...
BF4 was the best FPS I ever played and ever since then the series has been dumbed down, released with a lack of content, and just been Battlefront'd into oblivion

Imagine thinking Battlefield 3.1 is the best FPS
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TheCyborgNinja
09/10/18 12:17:07 AM
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BF is done. The formula is stale and their only options are "more of the same" or "change it dramatically". Neither is going to make the majority happy. Unlike CoD, which is super casual and much smaller-scale, they're kind of stuck.

The only thing I could see livening it up would be extreme alternate history. Have an alternate WWII based on America staying out of WWI and it ending in a stalemate. Global politics from there could easily lead to "the imperialists" (Britain, France, Germany, Japan) vs "the anti-imperialists" (Soviet Union, Nationalist China, USA). Fronts in Canada, the Pacific, and Eastern Europe would be the most likely.
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halomonkey1_3_5
09/10/18 12:27:38 AM
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i liked the beta a lot

played about 4-5 hours of it

glad I bought a year of Origin Access for Madden tbh
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The_Scarecrow
09/10/18 12:28:50 AM
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I just want bad company 3 tbh
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MuayThai85
09/10/18 12:31:43 AM
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halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
i liked the beta a lot

played about 4-5 hours of it

glad I bought a year of Origin Access for Madden tbh


I got Premier simply for BFV, Fifa 19 and Anthem were nice bonuses. I downloaded Madden but never been much of a football fan.
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spanky1
09/10/18 12:32:18 AM
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I didn't like it at first. Now I love it.
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mrtopgoon327
09/10/18 12:41:57 AM
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shit is solid watch your mouth thomp
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apocalyptic_4
09/10/18 12:54:49 AM
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Looks spectacular on my xbox X it's a day one buy for me.

Was never intrested in this series since bad company but this may bring me back.
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AvantgardeAClue
09/10/18 12:55:23 AM
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OmegaShinkai posted...
Northlane posted...
BF4 was the best FPS I ever played and ever since then the series has been dumbed down, released with a lack of content, and just been Battlefront'd into oblivion

Imagine thinking Battlefield 3.1 is the best FPS


It's definitely the best with the Frostbite engine

750 hours later and that game still isn't old to me
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Aelia
09/10/18 1:20:46 AM
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They need to make Bad Company 3. IMO, BC2 is without a doubt the best Battlefield and maybe the best shooter ever.
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AvantgardeAClue
09/10/18 1:50:50 AM
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Aelia posted...
They need to make Bad Company 3. IMO, BC2 is without a doubt the best Battlefield and maybe the best shooter ever.


Let's not get too crazy here

Bad Company 2 for starters wasn't even a 64 player affair
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spanky1
09/10/18 12:18:14 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
All these FPS games are just pew pew you shoot, you die, respawn, you shoot, you kill guy, you die again respawn...

A few years ago I used to imagine what games like that would be like and I'd be imagining these HUGE battles with wide open fields and various objectives etc... it seems we've regressed more and more.

Does Battlefield still have those kind of modes?

Battlefield is most definitely NOT just shoot, die, respawn. That's the entire reason I love it so much. You're describing Call of Duty, basically. BF has so many epic, crazy moments, it's amazing.

I imagined what games would be like too when I was younger, and I basically imagined Battlefield. Huge battles with wide open fields and various objectives with lots of players. Battlefield delivers exactly that, V included.

Sometimes I see people comparing BFV to the recent Battlefront games. I wonder if they've even played either of these games. They're so different it's amazing. Star Wars is just about funneling two teams down a narrow hallway and having them shoot each other. BFV is big and open with a ton of freedom, just like the older BF games.
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MuayThai85
09/10/18 12:20:35 PM
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Aelia posted...
They need to make Bad Company 3. IMO, BC2 is without a doubt the best Battlefield and maybe the best shooter ever.


Maybe best console shooter but you're delusional if you think BC2 is better than BF1942, BF2 or BF3 PC.
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alphagamble
09/10/18 12:30:01 PM
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I prefer COD gameplay but I always try free betas and I wasn't impressed.

Biggest problems were the ammo, 15 second respawn and the sniper glare, did they take that out? It was quite pronounced in Battlefield 1.
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ROBANN_88
09/10/18 12:33:25 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
make the healing/ammo mechanics HARDER to utilize


what did they do?
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spanky1
09/10/18 12:37:04 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
make the healing/ammo mechanics HARDER to utilize


what did they do?

You start with less ammo (3 clips I believe), and you only auto heal up to 50% health. To revive to 100%, you need to have a health pack in your inventory. To get a health pack, you either need to be given one by a medic, who has infinite health packs, or you need to pick one up from a flag base, which has ammo and health stations.

The system is more complicated, but it's honestly a welcome change. It makes the game feel more tactical, less arcadey, and promotes teamwork more.
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Samurontai
09/10/18 12:47:18 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
make the healing/ammo mechanics HARDER to utilize


what did they do?


Made it better

Also the reviving is waaaaay better so you dont have to kill the same guy twice because his buddy spammed a button from around the corner
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MuayThai85
09/10/18 12:53:40 PM
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spanky1 posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
make the healing/ammo mechanics HARDER to utilize


what did they do?

You start with less ammo (3 clips I believe), and you only auto heal up to 50% health. To revive to 100%, you need to have a health pack in your inventory. To get a health pack, you either need to be given one by a medic, who has infinite health packs, or you need to pick one up from a flag base, which has ammo and health stations.

The system is more complicated, but it's honestly a welcome change. It makes the game feel more tactical, less arcadey, and promotes teamwork more.


2 magazines for the STG44 and you can pick up a third magazine from a support or ammo cache.
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Forlorn_Ass
09/10/18 12:58:58 PM
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When did the trend of not being able to heal yourself to 100% happen? Pubg and fortnite?
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YUHH
09/10/18 12:59:35 PM
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Forlorn_Ass posted...
When did the trend of not being able to heal yourself to 100% happen? Pubg and fortnite?

Back in the 1990s when regen wasnt a thing and you had to manually pick up health items and armor which were highly contested pickups.
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halomonkey1_3_5
09/10/18 1:41:04 PM
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alphagamble posted...
I prefer COD gameplay but I always try free betas and I wasn't impressed.

Biggest problems were the ammo, 15 second respawn and the sniper glare, did they take that out? It was quite pronounced in Battlefield 1.

the sniper glare is still there but there is something weird about it

I've only noticed it a few times and i've been in quite a few sniper battles so idk what the trigger is for it
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TheMarthKoopa
09/10/18 1:43:06 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
A few years ago I used to imagine what games like that would be like and I'd be imagining these HUGE battles with wide open fields and various objectives etc... it seems we've regressed more and more.

PlanetSide tried to innovate but nobody cared

Instead we get Battle Royale, Hero Shooters, and CoD/BF rehashes
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DezDroppedFreak
09/10/18 1:43:53 PM
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Felt like a reskinned BF1 with a stupid revive mechanic
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s0nicfan
09/10/18 1:45:12 PM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
A few years ago I used to imagine what games like that would be like and I'd be imagining these HUGE battles with wide open fields and various objectives etc... it seems we've regressed more and more.

PlanetSide tried to innovate but nobody cared

Instead we get Battle Royale, Hero Shooters, and CoD/BF rehashes


Planetside did fine until EA did what EA does. The first game ran strong for a long time before they released OP expansion content that you could use in the base game, totally destroying game balance and making every fight the same.

Then Planetside 2 came out and they gutted a lot of their own mechanics to streamline the game, and THEN put in prohibitively expensive upgrades to force people to buy station cash, again creating a clear pay-to-win power imbalance.
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TheMarthKoopa
09/10/18 1:54:35 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Planetside did fine until EA did what EA does. The first game ran strong for a long time before they released OP expansion content that you could use in the base game, totally destroying game balance and making every fight the same.

PlanetSide was SOE

The population was never "strong". No advertisements when Halo/CoD/BF/Counter Strike had all the attention and then died an obscure death because of complete mishandling in every aspect

An amazing, innovative game that couldn't revolutionize because... nobody cared.
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