Board 8 > Who is the strongest FF character to not be in a Character Battle?

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VeryInsane
09/08/18 1:25:05 PM
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Has to be Yuffie right

Though I can see an argument for Red XIII/Edgar/Wakka/Mog/Bahamut
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xp1337
09/08/18 1:25:57 PM
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Noctis

>_>
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CelesMyUserName
09/08/18 1:26:58 PM
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mog
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VeryInsane
09/08/18 1:29:16 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Chocobo


Didnt Boko poop the bed in his match last time?

Although I wonder if FFI classes would count, Black Mage or Red Mage could be decent
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Ashethan
09/08/18 1:47:38 PM
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Black Mage
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Mewtwo59
09/08/18 1:49:18 PM
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xp1337 posted...
Noctis

>_>


Yeah, it's gotta be Noct.
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pjbasis
09/08/18 2:22:19 PM
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I don't see Noctis as being worth more than lightning by any great amount if at all
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redrocket
09/08/18 2:45:33 PM
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I would take Lightning > Noctis. I think she'd 60-40 him
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cyko
09/08/18 2:50:05 PM
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Bahamut

Mog

Shadow

Black Mage
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NeoElfboy
09/08/18 3:06:33 PM
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Yuffie intuitively seems right to me. She's a cute girl from the biggest FF. I know her thieving act frustrates some people but I still doubt she'd be much weaker than Rikku anyway.
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Underleveled
09/08/18 3:09:48 PM
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My first thought was Yuffie, but given the most recent performances of FF7 and its cast, I think she'd be a low midcarder at best.
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ZenOfThunder
09/08/18 3:11:31 PM
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Definitely not anyone from FFVII at this point

probably Black Mage
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ZenOfThunder
09/08/18 3:14:00 PM
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psaltery
09/08/18 3:14:56 PM
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Yes his Board 8 wiki page was blank, sorry.
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pyresword
09/08/18 3:28:40 PM
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My first thought was Black Mage.

Idk anything about FFXV so maybe that has strong stuff?
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Underleveled
09/08/18 3:43:07 PM
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ZenOfThunder posted...
psaltery posted...
Seifer


http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/(9)Knuckles_the_Echidna_vs_(10)Seifer_Almasy_vs_(19)Celes_Chere_2013

Yeah Seifer and Rinoa both stunk it up. Makes me sad, and a bit confused given that, at last check, Squall is still in the top 20, rallies notwithstanding.
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CelesMyUserName
09/08/18 4:02:01 PM
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man that Celes performance impresses me <3
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Lopen
09/08/18 4:07:19 PM
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I'm still of the mind Edgar is the strongest FFVI character by a decent margin so I'd go with him.

Yuffie probably #2 (or #3 behind Sabin)
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Underleveled
09/08/18 5:14:40 PM
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Sazh might be up there as well.
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Haste_2
09/08/18 5:52:44 PM
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Lulu is another possibility that nobody has mentioned yet. But I really have no idea who would be the strongest. I think Chocobo would actually do better than Boko, since Boko is from a weak game and its owner, Bartz, is not exactly a popular character.
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Cavedweller2000
09/08/18 5:54:27 PM
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Zell?
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Solioxrz362
09/08/18 5:55:12 PM
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NeoElfboy posted...
Yuffie intuitively seems right to me. She's a cute girl from the biggest FF. I know her thieving act frustrates some people but I still doubt she'd be much weaker than Rikku anyway.

She also gets the bonus of being a recognizable character from Kingdom Hearts because you meet her in Traverse Town. I knew her in that game before I knew she was from FFVII. I'm also really young and FFVII was released before I was born so this could be a very miniscule boost if any kind of boost at all.
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LeonhartFour
09/08/18 7:23:55 PM
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Eh, I don't think Yuffie would do all that well. I doubt she'd be any better than Barret at any rate. I don't think generic Black Mage would do all that well either. Vivi works because he's a character everyone loves AND has that design. Black Mage would only have half the formula (and Vivi has a superior design anyway). I don't know that Mog or generic chocobo would do all that well either. The design is only worth so much.

I mean it might be Yuffie or Red XIII anyway just because I doubt there's another character from another game that we haven't gotten in yet other than Noct who would be worth anything. Maaaaaaaaaybe Laguna, but I doubt it. I guess there's a chance an iconic summon like Bahamut would do well, but I'd be kinda skeptical.
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greengravy294
09/08/18 7:28:23 PM
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LeonhartFour
09/08/18 7:29:37 PM
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Also, I'd like to see Locke get another chance now that he's in Dissidia because he finally has some decent artwork to choose from. Dissidia giving Kefka better stuff to choose from seems to have done wonders for him, if nothing else.

On that same note, get Rinoa in again (although her Dissidia design is inferior to the original but whatever).
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MMXcalibur
09/08/18 7:42:57 PM
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Banon from FFVI
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Underleveled
09/08/18 8:29:44 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
On that same note, get Rinoa in again (although her Dissidia design is inferior to the original but whatever).

Yeah she got screwed in that match, and she'd probably get a Dissidia boost. I don't think she would get in again without another big rallly though.
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Xuxon
09/08/18 8:31:30 PM
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oh thanks for reminding me to nominate Yuffie
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shane15
09/08/18 8:39:43 PM
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Be nice to see Rinoa get in again. I always nominate her and Squall .
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Underleveled
09/08/18 8:46:05 PM
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shane15 posted...
Be nice to see Rinoa get in again. I always nominate her and Squall .

She got in last time largely because I was pushing hard for her and rallying as many noms as I possibly could. I'm going for a different character this year, and who knows what the field size is like.

I'd love to see Rinoa again in a non-SFF match, but I'm not holding my breath.
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dilateDChemist
09/08/18 9:28:26 PM
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The correct answer is JENOVA
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Haste_2
09/08/18 10:20:58 PM
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Ah, I forgot about Jenova. If Jecht can beat Phoenix Wright, you would think Jenova would do better. (Assuming the FF7 decline didn't destroy Jenova's popularity, too)
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_SecretSquirrel
09/08/18 10:24:20 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Also, I'd like to see Locke get another chance now that he's in Dissidia because he finally has some decent artwork to choose from. Dissidia giving Kefka better stuff to choose from seems to have done wonders for him, if nothing else.

On that same note, get Rinoa in again (although her Dissidia design is inferior to the original but whatever).

Celes beating Seifer with her Amano art is wild, though she did have cutscene art on the poll page which might have mitigated that.
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LeonhartFour
09/08/18 10:27:42 PM
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I mean who actually cares about Jenova

this is like saying Emperor Gestahl would be worth anything
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Xuxon
09/08/18 10:27:58 PM
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no, Jecht has actual personality and character. there's no way Jenova is the most popular left.
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HarrietTubgirl
09/08/18 10:40:52 PM
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Been trying to rally Red XIII for 12 years. He'd be garbage now so maybe Noctis?
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VeryInsane
09/08/18 10:43:06 PM
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Does Dissidia really do anything other than give new character models

Like do we expect Vayne to run amok
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LeonhartFour
09/08/18 10:44:15 PM
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I doubt it helps anyone who already has decent artwork

it's not like the games are well liked
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Underleveled
09/08/18 10:44:39 PM
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Terra got a pretty noticeable boost after Dissidia, and Cecil did this to Knux:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3739-chaos-division-round-1-cecil-harvey-vs-knuckles
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dilateDChemist
09/08/18 10:45:41 PM
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I always liked the theory that Jenova was the true villain in FF7.
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LeonhartFour
09/08/18 10:46:25 PM
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again those are people who were benefited by good artwork because they had none before

don't forget Cecil's pic in his debut against Kirby

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/board8/images/2/25/Cb05b13.jpg

also that match is more of an indictment of Knuckles than anything else
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Mewtwo59
09/08/18 10:48:20 PM
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Yeah, where did this idea that a classic FF character is the strongest come from? Is there a time when classic FF hasn't disappointed in a character contest?
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09/08/18 10:48:27 PM
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LeonhartFour
09/08/18 10:51:24 PM
#47:


Mewtwo59 posted...
Yeah, where did this idea that a classic FF character is the strongest come from? Is there a time when classic FF hasn't disappointed in a character contest?


Kefka has done decently the last two Character Battles

not coincidentally he's also has good match pics for those contests
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dilateDChemist
09/08/18 10:52:38 PM
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SE should've just named Octopath Traveler FF16 in honor of the 16-bit era.
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Underleveled
09/08/18 10:53:19 PM
#49:


LeonhartFour posted...
again those are people who were benefited by good artwork because they had none before

don't forget Cecil's pic in his debut against Kirby

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/board8/images/2/25/Cb05b13.jpg

also that match is more of an indictment of Knuckles than anything else

Cecil I'll give you, but Terra has definitely improved over the years. Slightly better pics doesn't account for going from 28% on Dante to 36% on Squall (with SFF) and 44% on a slightly LFF'd Kirby.
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VeryInsane
09/08/18 10:53:29 PM
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Reminder that Terras old pics made her blonde and not green
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Underleveled
09/08/18 10:58:34 PM
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VeryInsane posted...
Reminder that Terras old pics made her blonde and not green

Terra has only clearly had her distinctive green hair in two match pics - against Darth Revan and against Vyse/Galcian with Kefka in the Rivalry Rumble, two characters that she was probably beating anyway. In other pics she had her blonde hair or the lighting was such that you couldn't even see the green. That includes her relatively decent numbers against Kirby and Squall.

But it's mostly besides the point. I agree with Mewtwo, the odds of the strongest character still getting snubbed being from one of the NES/SNES titles is practically 0.
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