Board 8 > I regret every minute of watching House of Cards (S6 teaser)

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I want every single minute I ever spent watching this show back
EVERY.SINGLE.ONE

You know I used to not care about idea of not watching a show just because it ended badly, I mean, sometimes is more about the journey than the destiniation, you know?
Like, if Dexter had amazing 4 first seasons but terrible ending, shouldn't I just enjoy the first 4?

But thanks to HoC I no longer think that
This show is a goddamn abomination, always was, I was just too blind to notice it
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After the first season the show became garbage

Don't act like it suddenly now jumped the shark
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The first season was excellent and the second was definitely solid (but was badly hurt by prematurely killing off one of the best characters)

after that it's been such a steady decline that I ultimately stopped really caring about it.

but going out like this? oof
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Western TV shows don't have beginning, middle and end. They have beginning, middle and cancellation.

They will end when and only when it becomes financially advisable to end them.

I'm looking forward to how the bridge the previous season to the opening scenes of Wonder Woman.
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ZeldaTPLink posted...

Western TV shows don't have beginning, middle and end. They have beginning, middle and cancellation.

They will end when and only when it becomes financially advisable to end them.

Tell that to Breaking Bad, Next Generation, Seinfeld, Friends, Game of Thrones, Spartacus, Mad Men, Penny Dreadful, Veep, Kimmy Schmidt, iZombie, LOST, Six Feet Under...
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scarletspeed7 posted...

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Western TV shows don't have beginning, middle and end. They have beginning, middle and cancellation.

They will end when and only when it becomes financially advisable to end them.

Tell that to Breaking Bad, Next Generation, Seinfeld, Friends, Game of Thrones, Spartacus, Mad Men, Penny Dreadful, Veep, Kimmy Schmidt, iZombie, LOST, Six Feet Under...

LOST was the game changer. I'm sure plenty of shows drag on a bit because there was no real narrative arch in mind, but, it's definitely not right to think of western shows the same way anymore
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Now here's a Negative Nanis topic I can get on board with.

Screw this show
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i have to agree that the show was only really good in season 1

don't think i bothered even watching after the third
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although, actually watching the preview, that seems like a pretty good way to write him out
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neonreaper posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Western TV shows don't have beginning, middle and end. They have beginning, middle and cancellation.

They will end when and only when it becomes financially advisable to end them.

Tell that to Breaking Bad, Next Generation, Seinfeld, Friends, Game of Thrones, Spartacus, Mad Men, Penny Dreadful, Veep, Kimmy Schmidt, iZombie, LOST, Six Feet Under...

LOST was the game changer. I'm sure plenty of shows drag on a bit because there was no real narrative arch in mind, but, it's definitely not right to think of western shows the same way anymore

LOST was the game changer? Not something like The Sopranos or The Wire or Six Feet Under or The Shield that actually have satisfying, critically lauded endings? Do you not remember all the media around The Sopranos finale?
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OliviaTremor posted...

Not something like The Sopranos or The Wire or The Shield that actually have satisfying, critically lauded endings? Do you not remember all the media around The Sopranos finale?

I remember everybody griping about it, actually
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They are game changers in different ways. LOST was a commercial network show planning an ending in advance, which was different than The Sopranos and its ability to have its desired ending a few years earlier on what was at the time a network for creator-driven shows with their own "niche" audiences. HBO grew because of that creator-driven high-quality streak, but regular networks didn't follow suit until ABC allowed LOST to go out on its own terms.

It's not really about critics in this case.
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What happened? I dont watch it.
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I want to vent, so I will vent
Season 5 spoilers
-Tom Yates - this is the most pointless character in existence, His very existence is pointless. His story didn't go anywhere, didn't matter at all, made no sense to begin with, and when they realized he is just a waste of time, they killed him in the most idiotic way
-Will Conway - he was a badass, made Frank sweat, it was interesting to see how Frank would take him down...and then he did with a fucking cheat code. A random stranger just gave him a recording of Will losing his shit and that's it. A fucking leak, wow amazing
-Catherine Durant staircase scene - Frank pushed Zoe into a train was legit. This was not. He pushed Catherine Durant down LITERALLY 4 stairs (or even 3, depending on how you want to count it) and she lost consciousness. Try to pull this off IRL, you will have close to zero chance of this working. I am not against the idea of pushing Catherine down the stairs, it could have worked as a "accident", but at least make her fall through like 20 stairs or something, at least (and even then it would be a risk as the idea of her telling Frank did it will still happen)
-Frank being a cuckold. I ignored it at first because it went both ways, Claire didn't care Frank was fucking Zoe and it was fair. But he becamse such a joke later with the whole Cuckold thing
-Eric Rawlings suicide. WHY? WHAT WAS THE POINT? I am sure nobody even realize who I am talking about. This is the name of the character that was portraying Augustus Underwood then somehow was Frank lover for god knows why reason. But then they decided to kill him just for the lulz
-Doug. Man fuck him, really. He was cool in the first season, but ever since then he is all about "I am mentally unstable help me" and this is getting old. Yeah you want to fall in love with the willow of a man you killed, good for you you sick psycho. And then he was willing to take the fall for Frank. What is this loyallty good for?
-Let's kill Aidan and LeAnn lmao

The best part of the show was Zoe's cleavage and it was in the first episode of the show
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Anagram posted...

What happened? I dont watch it.

Killed off the main character off-screen because it's actor allegedly raped someone 20 years ago

(forgive me for the allegedly if it really did happen, I didn't follow much)
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Oh and Claire
I don't feel like writing anymore so I will just say this-
Claire is the single most poorly written character I have ever seen, not exaggerating
There are a lot of bad characters, characters that annoy me, that disappointing me, but nothing comes close to Claire
There might be Starcraft 2 Kerrigan, but she does fit more the description of "worst character assasination ever" and in the case of Claire, it's more like "was the worst character from the very beginning"

Explaining exactly why would be too long, but I am sure most people that saw this show can understand what I mean
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How'd they kill him off-screen?
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Bump
Dislike ratio is pretty good but not good enough
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all this talk of shows that ended on their own terms, had planned arcs from the begging and all that and not one bablyon 5 mention

for shame.
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OliviaTremor posted...

LOST was the game changer? Not something like The Sopranos or The Wire or Six Feet Under or The Shield that actually have satisfying, critically lauded endings? Do you not remember all the media around The Sopranos finale?

Well, it would be unfair to say LOST was the only game changer I suppose. I think there was a big shift in what an audience will put up with at the time of LOST season 2-3, where the showrunners just decided to milk the show and audiences gave up on it, and the only way to save the show was to very publicly have an end game in sight. It's not what every show does now, but certainly many shows after LOST have been able to have a narrative endgame in sight almost the entire time.

Sopranos probably fits what I'm thinking a bit more because the ratings started going down the last 'few' seasons though I don't honestly know if they announced that season 6.5 would be the last one years in advance or not. I know Sopranos was a huge influence for pay channels because it did crazy good ratings while being critically acclaimed. I don't know if they had a series that did both before that. The Wire reminds me of Arrested Development because if you liked good TV, you had the best show. But no one watched stuff like that.

Sopranos was definitely very influential in milking its final season.

But I do think LOST was influential and also a sign of the times regarding the way audiences watch shows and how western producers make shows.
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I never bothered watching S3 of HOC. It was never high-quality (other than the production values) but it was soapy which can make a lot of things enjoyable in spite of their lacking integrity.

LOST was absolutely a game-changer and a lot of that is because it was on network TV, which is where shows really were intended to go into perpetuity, but both fans and showrunners pushed back to get an end date.

Sopranos doesn't really belong in this conversation. The show had arcs but it was very episodic.
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