Current Events > Mattis, Kelly, and former Trump lawyer, Dowd, deny Woodward book quotes.

Topic List
Page List: 1, 2
Houston
09/04/18 9:44:37 PM
#1:


Mattis: "Mattis said Tuesday in a statement: "The contemptuous words about the President attributed to me in Woodward's book were never uttered by me or in my presence."

The book recounts that Mattis told "close associates that the president acted like and had the understanding of 'a fifth- or sixth-grader.'"

Mattis says in the statement: "While I generally enjoy reading fiction, this is a uniquely Washington brand of literature, and his anonymous sources do not lend credibility."

Mattis says the notion that he would "show contempt" for Trump or "tolerate disrespect" to the office of the President of the United States "is a product of someone's rich imagination."


Kelly:"Kelly says, "The idea I ever called the president an idiot is not true."

In a separate statement, the White House is dismissing the book as "nothing more than fabricated stories."


Dowd (currently not even working for Trump): "In a statement issued Tuesday, Dowd says, "There was no so-called 'practice session' or 're-enactment' of a mock interview at the Special Counsel's office."

He adds: "Further, I did not refer to the President as a "liar" and did not say that he was likely to end up in an 'orange jump suit.'"


It's some pretty funny stuff, I will admit. But it is fiction.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/entertainment/article217805035.html
---
Trump is good all the time, all the time Trump is good.
... Copied to Clipboard!
#2
Post #2 was unavailable or deleted.
Anteaterking
09/04/18 9:48:15 PM
#3:


That's so weird, because Kelly hasn't denied other things that later turned out to be true.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse
09/04/18 9:49:55 PM
#4:


I'm willing to believe Mattis as he seems a stand up guy but I don't know from the other ones
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
TroutPaste
09/04/18 9:50:41 PM
#5:


"Well, you know, I love to read. Actually, Im looking at a book, Im reading a book, Im trying to get started. Every time I do about a half a page, I get a phone call that theres some emergency, this or that. But were going to see the home of Andrew Jackson today in Tennessee and Im reading a book on Andrew Jackson. I love to read. I dont get to read very much, Tucker, because Im working very hard on lots of different things, including getting costs down. The costs of our country are out of control." -Donald Trump.
---
Steam 4leaf440 / PSN TroutPaste89 / XBL FourLeaf440
... Copied to Clipboard!
#6
Post #6 was unavailable or deleted.
TheOnionKnight
09/04/18 9:51:53 PM
#7:


I hope all these conversations were recorded, and the recordings get released.
---
The owls are not what they seem.
... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata
09/04/18 9:52:22 PM
#8:


... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim
09/04/18 9:53:57 PM
#9:


Houston posted...
Kelly:"Kelly says, "The idea I ever called the president an idiot is not true."

This is almost certainly a lie.
---
I want a pet Lavos Spawn.
[Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica]
... Copied to Clipboard!
Chad-Henne
09/04/18 9:55:19 PM
#10:


... Copied to Clipboard!
Houston
09/04/18 9:55:27 PM
#11:


TheOnionKnight posted...
I hope all these conversations were recorded, and the recordings get released.


There were no recordings. Mattis himself said they were anonymous sources. There is no actual quote from Mattis in the book and there never will be.

It's more bull shit piled on top of bull shit to undermine the presidency and to attempt to prevent him from winning again.
---
Trump is good all the time, all the time Trump is good.
... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim
09/04/18 9:57:19 PM
#12:


Houston posted...
TheOnionKnight posted...
I hope all these conversations were recorded, and the recordings get released.


There were no recordings. Mattis himself said they were anonymous sources. There is no actual quote from Mattis in the book and there never will be.

It's more bull shit piled on top of bull shit to undermine the presidency and to attempt to prevent him from winning again.

The president's twitter account does more than enough to undermine the presidency. No need to make things up.
---
I want a pet Lavos Spawn.
[Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica]
... Copied to Clipboard!
Houston
09/04/18 10:01:47 PM
#13:


And you look at the mainstream media outlets right now. They're going wild. Writing huge articles about all these alleged things but not mentioning Mattis, Kelly and Dowd are denying them.
---
Trump is good all the time, all the time Trump is good.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Super Saiyan 3 Goku
09/04/18 10:14:59 PM
#14:


What else were they to say? They had 3 options:

1. Confirm the contents of the book.
2. Stay silent, which is an admission of guilt and is thus Point 1 above.
3. Lie through their teeth.
---
When it is obvious that the goals cannot be reached, don't adjust the goals, adjust the action steps. - Confucius
... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns
09/04/18 10:16:17 PM
#15:


Houston posted...
And you look at the mainstream media outlets right now. They're going wild. Writing huge articles about all these alleged things but not mentioning Mattis, Kelly and Dowd are denying them.


No shit they're going to deny it.
---
Clean Butt Crew
... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking
09/04/18 10:30:01 PM
#16:


Not that there's any reason to treat you as being anything but disingenuous but I will for a second.

What reason is there to still believe this White House when it comes to things that make them look bad? If your standard operating procedure is deny until there's too much evidence to continue to deny, why should you take the opening denial salvo as fact as an average person?
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Houston
09/04/18 10:36:57 PM
#17:


Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
What else were they to say? They had 3 options:

1. Confirm the contents of the book.
2. Stay silent, which is an admission of guilt and is thus Point 1 above.
3. Lie through their teeth.


Dowd isn't even working for Trump anymore. I dont think has much reason to lie.

And particularly, the full statement Mattis released is pretty damning to this book.
---
Trump is good all the time, all the time Trump is good.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Super Saiyan 3 Goku
09/04/18 10:39:53 PM
#18:


So what if Dowd doesn't work for him anymore? Sean Spicer still goes around the country pretending Trump isn't a damned idiot.
---
When it is obvious that the goals cannot be reached, don't adjust the goals, adjust the action steps. - Confucius
... Copied to Clipboard!
Houston
09/04/18 10:57:32 PM
#19:


Anteaterking posted...
Not that there's any reason to treat you as being anything but disingenuous but I will for a second.

What reason is there to still believe this White House when it comes to things that make them look bad? If your standard operating procedure is deny until there's too much evidence to continue to deny, why should you take the opening denial salvo as fact as an average person?


When you have anonymous sources and multiple people vehemently denying that they said those things, it's definitely something to take note of. What are these sources' motives? Are they credible sources? Who are they, even? Are they even actual people? Will the sources ever be revealed? Are there any records? Any evidence? The answer is likely no to most or all of these questions.

Out of everyone in this group I would trust Mattis the most. Some claims in this book are ridiculously out of this world.
---
Trump is good all the time, all the time Trump is good.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22
09/04/18 10:58:35 PM
#20:


Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
So what if Dowd doesn't work for him anymore? Sean Spicer still goes around the country pretending Trump isn't a damned idiot.


Actually Spicer wrote a book and walked back some of his compliments/statements ...
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212
09/04/18 11:03:38 PM
#21:


Have these people previously been accused of saying something inappropriate about Trump? Like, Kelly has been quoted a lot by anonymous sources and he never denied any of it until now
---
I don't know my gimmick
"Does that sound reasonable to you?"
... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack
09/04/18 11:07:27 PM
#22:


It is kind of weird how anyone who hates Trump will take every book written about his presidency as gospel lol. I'm sure some parts may be true but they reference it like it's a set-in-stone history book
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Alphamon
09/04/18 11:09:35 PM
#23:


BignutzisBack posted...
It is kind of weird how anyone who hates Trump will take every book written about his presidency as gospel lol. I'm sure some parts may be true but they reference it like it's a set-in-stone history book

Its Woodward. Dude is a fucking legend. It should be taken very seriously
... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe
09/04/18 11:10:31 PM
#24:


Hot DAMN Mattis speaks well regardless of what ya think ab out any of this
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL
09/04/18 11:19:55 PM
#25:


... Copied to Clipboard!
SnapesOnAPlane
09/04/18 11:21:30 PM
#26:


CableZL posted...
1DhQcia

top kek
... Copied to Clipboard!
Trigg3rH4ppy
09/04/18 11:40:32 PM
#27:


CableZL posted...
1DhQcia

There really is a Trump Twitter post for everything that makes him look like a hypocrite
---
~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~
TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://imgur.com/zlaENmx
... Copied to Clipboard!
DoubleA22
09/04/18 11:58:55 PM
#28:


WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE

Mattis says he never said any of that stuff right? Well I believe him and you guys should too. Because if you dont that means you're calling a war hero a liar and that's disrespectful
... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse
09/05/18 12:15:04 AM
#29:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Woodward#Criticisms_of_content

Do some research before you take anyone's word as gospel just because it may fit your narrative. He may be thought of highly but he's also not beyond reproach.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
SnapesOnAPlane
09/05/18 12:17:40 AM
#30:


Vyrulisse posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Woodward#Criticisms_of_content

Do some research before you take anyone's word as gospel just because it may fit your narrative. He may be thought of highly but he's also not beyond reproach.

Slurp slurp must defend the orange god slurp
... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber
09/05/18 12:25:24 AM
#31:


Of course he did. The whole 'Fake News' brainwashing only works if you keep the charade going. The moment he stops lying, the whole thing crumbles.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse
09/05/18 12:26:37 AM
#32:


SnapesOnAPlane posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Woodward#Criticisms_of_content

Do some research before you take anyone's word as gospel just because it may fit your narrative. He may be thought of highly but he's also not beyond reproach.

Slurp slurp must defend the orange god slurp

Literally do not give a shit about Trump. Critical thinking skills and healthy skepticism of anyone are good things to have. Try it sometime.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber
09/05/18 12:28:53 AM
#33:


Vyrulisse posted...
SnapesOnAPlane posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Woodward#Criticisms_of_content

Do some research before you take anyone's word as gospel just because it may fit your narrative. He may be thought of highly but he's also not beyond reproach.

Slurp slurp must defend the orange god slurp

Literally do not give a shit about Trump. Critical thinking skills and healthy skepticism of anyone are good things to have. Try it sometime.


So you honestly believe that Woodward made up every single word for his own personal gain?
... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444
09/05/18 12:58:54 AM
#34:


Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
CableZL posted...
1DhQcia

There really is a Trump Twitter post for everything that makes him look like a hypocrite


It's almost unbelievable TBH.
---
Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X
... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink
09/05/18 1:59:33 AM
#35:


Ex-Kefiroth posted...
I mean, of course they're going to deny it whether it's true or not.

Go ahead and call Mattis a liar. I dare you.
---
'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink
09/05/18 2:02:26 AM
#36:


uwnim posted...
Houston posted...
TheOnionKnight posted...
I hope all these conversations were recorded, and the recordings get released.


There were no recordings. Mattis himself said they were anonymous sources. There is no actual quote from Mattis in the book and there never will be.

It's more bull shit piled on top of bull shit to undermine the presidency and to attempt to prevent him from winning again.

The president's twitter account does more than enough to undermine the presidency. No need to make things up.

Is that why lefties make shit up so much? I.e., the pee tapes, dumping fish food in front of Abe, Melania leaving him, all among others?
---
'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
... Copied to Clipboard!
radical rhino
09/05/18 2:12:44 AM
#37:


All three of them are lying. This is obvious to anyone with a brain whos remotely aware of current events.
---
.____
[____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick.
... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink
09/05/18 2:13:44 AM
#38:


radical rhino posted...
All three of them are lying. This is obvious to anyone with a brain whos remotely aware of current events.

James Mattis doesn't lie.
---
'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
... Copied to Clipboard!
radical rhino
09/05/18 2:30:34 AM
#39:


darkjedilink posted...
radical rhino posted...
All three of them are lying. This is obvious to anyone with a brain whos remotely aware of current events.

James Mattis doesn't lie.

Lol. He just did.
---
.____
[____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim Kusanagi
09/05/18 7:33:10 AM
#40:


darkjedilink posted...
radical rhino posted...
All three of them are lying. This is obvious to anyone with a brain whos remotely aware of current events.

James Mattis doesn't lie.


Like a Vulcan?
---
Live to train. Train to fight. Fight to live. When you retire, think only on fighting.
Take me away, I don't mind, but you better promise I'll be back in time!
... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0
09/05/18 7:37:12 AM
#41:


darkjedilink posted...
Ex-Kefiroth posted...
I mean, of course they're going to deny it whether it's true or not.

Go ahead and call Mattis a liar. I dare you.


Okay, he's lying now and he's a liar in general, which is probably good in the duplicitous line of work he finds himself in
---
But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
... Copied to Clipboard!
DoubleA22
09/05/18 7:43:18 AM
#42:


radical rhino posted...
darkjedilink posted...
radical rhino posted...
All three of them are lying. This is obvious to anyone with a brain whos remotely aware of current events.

James Mattis doesn't lie.

Lol. He just did.


Wait I thought disrespecting war heroes was a big no no for liberals. Why is it okay to disrespect Mattis now?
... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE
09/05/18 7:44:26 AM
#43:


DoubleA22 posted...
radical rhino posted...
darkjedilink posted...
radical rhino posted...
All three of them are lying. This is obvious to anyone with a brain whos remotely aware of current events.

James Mattis doesn't lie.

Lol. He just did.


Wait I thought disrespecting war heroes was a big no no for liberals. Why is it okay to disrespect Mattis now?

he's a politician now
none of them should be trusted
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art
09/05/18 7:47:17 AM
#44:


DoubleA22 posted...
Wait I thought disrespecting war heroes was a big no no for liberals. Why is it okay to disrespect Mattis now?

I don't see how being in the military means you can't call someone out when they lie about shit
---
Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009
https://imgur.com/mPvcy
... Copied to Clipboard!
DoubleA22
09/05/18 7:54:02 AM
#45:


Doom_Art posted...
DoubleA22 posted...
Wait I thought disrespecting war heroes was a big no no for liberals. Why is it okay to disrespect Mattis now?

I don't see how being in the military means you can't call someone out when they lie about shit


You have proof hes lying? I'm just saying I heard and seen the pure hearted outrage liberals had when Trump was disrespectful towards a war hero...so I would assume you guys wouldn't be disrespectful towards a war hero either. Butttttt

I was wrong
... Copied to Clipboard!
Polycosm
09/05/18 7:56:18 AM
#46:


DoubleA22 posted...
Wait I thought disrespecting war heroes was a big no no for liberals. Why is it okay to disrespect Mattis now?

Trump mocked McCain because he was a war hero. He mocked McCain for being shot down in the act of serving his country. He also mocked the mother of a deceased soldier because she's Muslim.

People in this topic are questioning the veracity of Mattis' statement.

Do you honestly believe that there's an equivalency between these things?
---
BKSheikah owned me so thoroughly in the 2017 guru contest, I'd swear he used the Lens of Truth to pick his bracket. (thengamer.com/guru)
... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14
09/05/18 8:08:21 AM
#47:


DoubleA22 posted...
radical rhino posted...
darkjedilink posted...
radical rhino posted...
All three of them are lying. This is obvious to anyone with a brain whos remotely aware of current events.

James Mattis doesn't lie.

Lol. He just did.


Wait I thought disrespecting war heroes was a big no no for liberals. Why is it okay to disrespect Mattis now?


We're just following suit of conservatives. I mean, just soooo jealous of all this winning, why not do the same thing that conservatives do so they can win as well?!
---
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14
09/05/18 8:09:41 AM
#48:


Polycosm posted...
DoubleA22 posted...
Wait I thought disrespecting war heroes was a big no no for liberals. Why is it okay to disrespect Mattis now?

Trump mocked McCain because he was a war hero. He mocked McCain for being shot down in the act of serving his country. He also mocked the mother of a deceased soldier because she's Muslim.

People in this topic are questioning the veracity of Mattis' statement.

Do you honestly believe that there's an equivalency between these things?


Of course they do, because right wingers are disingenuous as fuck and can only make arguments in bad faith.
---
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590
09/05/18 8:18:54 AM
#49:


darkjedilink posted...
uwnim posted...
Houston posted...
TheOnionKnight posted...
I hope all these conversations were recorded, and the recordings get released.


There were no recordings. Mattis himself said they were anonymous sources. There is no actual quote from Mattis in the book and there never will be.

It's more bull shit piled on top of bull shit to undermine the presidency and to attempt to prevent him from winning again.

The president's twitter account does more than enough to undermine the presidency. No need to make things up.

Is that why lefties make shit up so much? I.e., the pee tapes, dumping fish food in front of Abe, Melania leaving him, all among others?

"Lefties" didn't make up the pee tapes lol
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink
09/05/18 8:35:53 AM
#50:


Balrog0 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Ex-Kefiroth posted...
I mean, of course they're going to deny it whether it's true or not.

Go ahead and call Mattis a liar. I dare you.


Okay, he's lying now and he's a liar in general, which is probably good in the duplicitous line of work he finds himself in

Proof? I mean, other than an unsourced book by a known liar?
---
'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1, 2