Current Events > Sony CEO says you can't have cross-play because PlayStation is the best

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Darmik
08/31/18 7:32:50 PM
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https://www.cnet.com/news/sony-ceo-says-you-cant-have-cross-play-because-playstation-is-the-best/

today, Sony CEO Kenichiro Yoshida reportedly told the press that his company generally doesn't believe in the idea of opening up the PlayStation to cross-platform multiplayer.

"On cross-platform, our way of thinking is always that PlayStation is the best place to play. Fortnite, I believe, partnered with PlayStation 4 is the best experience for users, that's our belief," he said, according to The Independent.

"But actually, we already opened some games as cross-platform with PC and some others, so we decide based on what is the best user experience. That is our way of thinking for cross-platform," he reportedly added.

That second quote does make it sound like Sony would be open to cross-play on a case-by-case basis, if Sony believed that cross-play would be the "best user experience." That's something.


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LanHikari10
08/31/18 7:35:08 PM
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What situations would make cross-play not the best experience? This makes no sense and this is coming from someone who's supported Sony since the PS1 days. :/
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E32005
08/31/18 7:36:17 PM
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Reis
08/31/18 7:36:47 PM
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I sure hope MS steps their shit up and blow Sony out of the water next gen for their recent scummy bullshit
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NeuralLaxative
08/31/18 7:36:51 PM
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Sucks to suck, Im bringing my switch to work tonight and when it gets slow Im gonna hop on and play some forty with the boys back home on their boxes

Cant complain about having more choices
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Freddie_Mercury
08/31/18 7:37:40 PM
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but does the PS4 look great
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Doom_Art
08/31/18 7:37:53 PM
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Yeah I love my PS4 and everything

And I don't personally do multiplayer

But this is total crap
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Lagfile
08/31/18 7:38:17 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
but does the PS4 look great


sony always wins
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Samurontai
08/31/18 7:38:37 PM
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Reis posted...
I sure hope MS steps their shit up and blow Sony out of the water next gen for their recent scummy bullshit


Iirc, MS did the exact same thing last gen

Not saying its justified, just saying this isnt new
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DarthAragorn
08/31/18 7:39:38 PM
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Samurontai posted...
Reis posted...
I sure hope MS steps their shit up and blow Sony out of the water next gen for their recent scummy bullshit


Iirc, MS did the exact same thing last gen

Not saying its justified, just saying this isnt new

I don't remember there really being any cross platform multiplayer from either company last gen, which games had it
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Roshon
08/31/18 7:39:49 PM
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Doesnt affect me so idc idc
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Prestoff
08/31/18 7:39:55 PM
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They don't wanna for the same reason Microsoft didn't wanna back in the 360 era, because they're on top. Companies are not required to do cross play, but it is pretty shitty when they do something like they did with Fortnite where their account was tied to the console which didn't allow them to play on the other consoles. That's fucking shady.
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wackyteen
08/31/18 7:39:59 PM
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Earlier this year I was contemplating getting a PS4

Then all this cross platform shit happened and now I've just sworn off Sony for the forseeable future.

I don't play Fortnite. I don't play any cross platform games or at the very least utilize the cross platform features.

I just can't support this total fucking anti-consumerist bullshit Sony has been on since it was clear they won the generation back in 2014. <_<
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Awesome
08/31/18 7:43:34 PM
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people that want cross play are just whiners
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AvantgardeAClue
08/31/18 7:44:43 PM
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ThIS is fOr tHE PlAYeRs
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au_gold
08/31/18 7:45:54 PM
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What a dickhead.
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ThatMuttGuy
08/31/18 7:47:26 PM
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It sucks, but whatever.

All my friends are on PS4 anyway.
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Tyranthraxus
08/31/18 7:47:43 PM
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Samurontai posted...
Reis posted...
I sure hope MS steps their shit up and blow Sony out of the water next gen for their recent scummy bullshit


Iirc, MS did the exact same thing last gen

Not saying its justified, just saying this isnt new

No they did not.

As a matter of fact, they were one of the first companies to endorse crossplay through Shadowrun.
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CruelBuffalo
08/31/18 7:48:07 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
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Darmik
08/31/18 7:49:57 PM
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The only cross-play game I remember on PS3 were Portal 2 Final Fantasy XIV. I don't see any other on the Wiki list.

360 had Final Fantasy XI and a few from the failed Windows Live service.

Portal 2 was the only real exception.
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El Mexicano Texano
08/31/18 7:53:12 PM
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They couldn't even get the Vita and PS4 to cross play what makes people think they can get there shit together and make it work with other systems? Lmao
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BadderHare
08/31/18 7:53:17 PM
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imagine thinking a console is the best experience for any multiplayer game lmao
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Calwings
08/31/18 8:07:25 PM
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Prestoff posted...
it is pretty shitty when they do something like they did with Fortnite where their account was tied to the console which didn't allow them to play on the other consoles. That's fucking shady.

IMO, this is the biggest problem. I'm fine with them not agreeing to crossplay, it's understandable. But ruining people's ability to play a game that someone else made and you have no control of on another console is just pure scum. That's a total dick move.
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Solar_Crimson
08/31/18 8:07:31 PM
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BadderHare posted...
imagine thinking a console is the best experience for any multiplayer game lmao

Depends on the game.

Smash Bros. is definitely a game that benefits from being on a console, since it's best with people in the same room.
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Vicious_Dios
08/31/18 8:10:08 PM
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Somebody will defend this.
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Tyranthraxus
08/31/18 9:48:04 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
BadderHare posted...
imagine thinking a console is the best experience for any multiplayer game lmao

Depends on the game.

Smash Bros. is definitely a game that benefits from being on a console, since it's best with people in the same room.

You can play PC games with people in the same room as you. Why would you think otherwise?
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Tyranthraxus
08/31/18 9:49:05 PM
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Darmik posted...
The only cross-play game I remember on PS3 were Portal 2 Final Fantasy XIV. I don't see any other on the Wiki list.

360 had Final Fantasy XI and a few from the failed Windows Live service.

Portal 2 was the only real exception.

Portal 2 was not cross play. You were just allowed to transfer your save from PS3 to steam.
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MacDaMurderer
08/31/18 10:03:58 PM
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How could you objectively say PlayStation is the best place. PC first then Xbox One X. Not like PlayStation network is some amazing service compared to Xbox Live.
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AvantgardeAClue
08/31/18 10:16:16 PM
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MacDaMurderer posted...
How could you objectively say PlayStation is the best place. PC first then Xbox One X. Not like PlayStation network is some amazing service compared to Xbox Live.


"Hurr durr exclusives"

Spider-Man is gonna be web swinging Arkham and Last of Us 2 seems to be more of the same but with girl/girl romance

I say this as a PS4 Pro owner

I play my Xbone X way more lately
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Darmik
08/31/18 11:16:51 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Darmik posted...
The only cross-play game I remember on PS3 were Portal 2 Final Fantasy XIV. I don't see any other on the Wiki list.

360 had Final Fantasy XI and a few from the failed Windows Live service.

Portal 2 was the only real exception.

Portal 2 was not cross play. You were just allowed to transfer your save from PS3 to steam.


Yes it was. You could play coop on PC and PS3 together. Not sure if you still can though.
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KamenRiderBlade
08/31/18 11:22:50 PM
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This is where regulation in the Video Games Industry would be useful.

Legally require them to have "Cross Play"

Any attempt to block it would lead to countless fines and other badness.
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08/31/18 11:25:39 PM
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Jiek_Fafn
08/31/18 11:33:27 PM
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Honestly it does depend on the game. I sure as shit wouldn't have fun getting destroyed by mouse and kb players from PC fps games. Can you imagine the crying on such an uneven playing field?

I'm all for transferable accounts though. Like buying fortnight skins should transfer to wherever the fuck you want to play it.
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voldothegr8
08/31/18 11:37:08 PM
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Sony can go eat a big bowl of dicks
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
08/31/18 11:40:24 PM
#37:


DarthAragorn posted...
Samurontai posted...
Reis posted...
I sure hope MS steps their shit up and blow Sony out of the water next gen for their recent scummy bullshit


Iirc, MS did the exact same thing last gen

Not saying its justified, just saying this isnt new

I don't remember there really being any cross platform multiplayer from either company last gen, which games had it

Well given that Sony and ms were the only consoles with real online, there wouldn't be any cross play if ms shut it down. It makes sense for the platform with the highest sales to not allow cross play
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frogman_295
08/31/18 11:42:03 PM
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More arrogant than trump I see
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kirbymuncher
08/31/18 11:42:23 PM
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you can't have cross-play because PlayStation is the best


is actually a pretty good way of putting it. It's because playstation is winning console war that they can afford to do it; it helps keep their hold and they know they have the clout to do it
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Zack_Attackv1
08/31/18 11:43:02 PM
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It's so lonely at the top.
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Darmik
08/31/18 11:45:53 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
This is where regulation in the Video Games Industry would be useful.

Legally require them to have "Cross Play"

Any attempt to block it would lead to countless fines and other badness.


Third party developers need to make a stand. Threaten that the game won't have multiplayer on their platform without crossplay.
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KamenRiderBlade
08/31/18 11:47:19 PM
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Darmik posted...
Third party developers need to make a stand. Threaten that the game won't have multiplayer on their platform without crossplay.
Good luck with that, sounds great on paper.

I would like it to happen!

But I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
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Esrac
08/31/18 11:50:02 PM
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LanHikari10 posted...
What situations would make cross-play not the best experience? This makes no sense and this is coming from someone who's supported Sony since the PS1 days. :/


If you open cross play for a shooting game to PC gamers, the console gamers will get wrecked.
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DocDelicious
08/31/18 11:58:01 PM
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PS4 already has more crossplay titles than any other console.
Also, he's right.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
09/01/18 12:01:08 AM
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I don't remember people bitching about no cross platform play on X360 and PS3. Why does it matter now?
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immaWHOOPdatASS
09/01/18 12:01:37 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Somebody will defend this.


Awesome posted...
people that want cross play are just whiners


You were late
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Rad_Chad
09/01/18 12:03:08 AM
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Bros... at least MS saved face last gen by having "our console has a paid sub" and offered a better quality / safer network. it really needed both of those things to give them enough room to have people begrudgingly accept the situation.

Sony have basically been "Mattrick blew the X1 launch so we can piss in your faces and you'll tell us it's delicious, suckers" because that's what dumbasses have been doing all gen. the fact anyone can unironically say they don't think b/c should exist proves how fucking moronic some douchebags are. Fuck. I want to punch them a lot dudes
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AvantgardeAClue
09/01/18 12:18:39 AM
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I really hope Sony has a plan for PS5

Because if Microsoft and Nintendo didn't fuck up so much early on it would've been a way closer fight
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MonkeyBones23
09/01/18 12:20:56 AM
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What I don't get, ever since this stupid conversation started, is why people are surprised by this? Sony obviously is winning the "console war" this generation. By a lot. Why would they do anything to help Microsoft's business in any way? Promoting cross play with Microsoft gives anyone who might want a PS4 still one less reason to get it or gives someone who might want a Xbox one more reason to get it.

I mean...do people not understand this? It's like the guy in this topic earlier stating he was on the fence on PS4 but now totally has wrote it off. Seriously? You're writing it off because it doesn't have a feature that has never existed between these companies and only is being talked about because Microsoft wants to seem like the "good guys" because they're so far behind?

All that said, this whole Fortnight business is not defendable. I could see why people would want to "boycott" due to those types of business practices. Just like people might boycott Microsoft due to the stuff they tried to pull when they were launching the Xbox One.

The whole situation is playing right into what Microsoft wanted. Make people angry at Sony for something that is a non-issue. And before this post gets attacked, I'll mention that I was a 360 owner last generation and have both consoles this gen.
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MarqueeSeries
09/01/18 12:21:53 AM
#50:


kirbymuncher posted...
you can't have cross-play because PlayStation is the best


is actually a pretty good way of putting it. It's because playstation is winning console war that they can afford to do it; it helps keep their hold and they know they have the clout to do it

But it's a bad look, and when people start to realize that Sony is the only one left out of the cross platform party, they may think twice about Sony's future consoles

I mean hell, even Nintendo is embracing cross play
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