Current Events > Been w/ wife for 11 years-tonight is my first "open relationship" date

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MildMannerdPate
08/27/18 6:09:28 PM
#53:


DeadSite posted...
Maybe. The way I see it if y'all have sex before the talk it means she doesn't require you to establish a relationship before getting that intimate


That's true but what if "the talk" doesnt come up until after 5, 10 sexual encounters? Definitely too late to say, "Oh btw I'm married"
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MildMannerdPate
08/27/18 6:10:06 PM
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T minus 3 hours until I pick her up. I will keep the topic updated with as much as I can.
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philsov
08/27/18 6:10:29 PM
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date


I can't do polyamory, personally. I was in a long term open relationship, but side pieces were just that and/or FWBs at most.

As for what to expect going forward -- my suggestions are:
- talk about it but don't need to do into every detail unless your partner wants to hear about it. Telling her about your feelings of being enamored or how freaky y'all got is a blow to her confidence, even if it's already implied.
- talk talk talk. Listen listen listen. There were a few times where I said a hookup night fine but realized about halfway through the night that it wasn't. Not enough to call him up and yank him home immediately but enough to be like "this is the line, we've learned it now that it's been crossed, no more XYZ." the next day.
- Her needs are penultimate.
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DeadSite
08/27/18 6:11:44 PM
#56:


MildMannerdPate posted...
DeadSite posted...
Maybe. The way I see it if y'all have sex before the talk it means she doesn't require you to establish a relationship before getting that intimate


That's true but what if "the talk" doesnt come up until after 5, 10 sexual encounters? Definitely too late to say, "Oh btw I'm married"

Haha probably would cause some drama if she was catching feelings but most of the time if the talk hasn't happened by then it isn't an issue for me
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MildMannerdPate
08/27/18 6:14:43 PM
#57:


philsov posted...
date


I can't do polyamory, personally. I was in a long term open relationship, but side pieces were just that and/or FWBs at most.

As for what to expect going forward -- my suggestions are:
- talk about it but don't need to do into every detail unless your partner wants to hear about it. Telling her about your feelings of being enamored or how freaky y'all got is a blow to her confidence, even if it's already implied.
- talk talk talk. Listen listen listen. There were a few times where I said a hookup night fine but realized about halfway through the night that it wasn't. Not enough to call him up and yank him home immediately but enough to be like "this is the line, we've learned it now that it's been crossed, no more XYZ." the next day.
- Her needs are penultimate.


Thank you for your input. I wholeheartedly agree with each point (Besides her needs being penultimate because that actually means second to top lol). We are willing to "push" boundaries a little bit but I'm fully willing to pull back the reins if it makes her uncomfortable in the slightest. My wife comes first no matter what.
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AbyssalArtorias
08/27/18 6:26:58 PM
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I wish my wife would let me date the chick I have a crush on :(
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MildMannerdPate
08/27/18 6:39:59 PM
#59:


AbyssalArtorias posted...
I wish my wife would let me date the chick I have a crush on :(


Communication, dear Artorias
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TheGoldenEel
08/27/18 7:06:05 PM
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Absolutely 100% should tell someone youre in an open relationship before the first date

You are being dishonest, potentially wasting her time, likely because you know theres a good chance she wouldnt be into it

If I Was on date two with a person and they revealed this, I would be pissed they hadnt been up front
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masticatingman
08/27/18 7:50:04 PM
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You shouldve just cheated tbh. Somehow, someway. Open relationship means she will get way more side action really than you ever could, most likely. Good luck with that.
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marthsheretoo
08/27/18 7:58:51 PM
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Good luck, TC. Don't listen to the maladjusted folks itt.

Sounds like you and her are in a good place and should be able to at the very least figure out whether this is actually for you or not without long-term problems.

TheGoldenEel posted...
Absolutely 100% should tell someone youre in an open relationship before the first date

You are being dishonest, potentially wasting her time, likely because you know theres a good chance she wouldnt be into it

If I Was on date two with a person and they revealed this, I would be pissed they hadnt been up front


I would second this. I tell girls up-front (tough because if you tell her before you ask her out, it can be presumptuous if she wasn't actually interested >_>) and it's always a sad moment when it makes her reverse her interest, but it's far better than the alternative.
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Lordgold666
08/27/18 8:02:08 PM
#63:


Frostshock posted...
Your marriage is over.

Megaman50100 posted...
A moment of silence for the future of this man's marriage.

Tupacrulez posted...
Have fun with the divorce.

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Colorahdo
08/27/18 8:02:55 PM
#64:


MildMannerdPate posted...
green butter posted...
what is even the point of getting married if youre going to do something like this


You could say the same about people having secret affairs built on lies but people do that all the time

How about the fact that I love my wife and we are a great duo? We have built a strong relationship and a comfortable home together? But realize that we are just mammals and not some idealized version of some god's offspring? People want to f*** other people. That's a fact. You can approach that in a healthy, honest, communicative fashion, you can have devastating affairs, or you can repress your basic human instincts which leads to depression and resentment. I prefer the first option.


What about two mature adults realizing that sex is more than a primal urge and there's a deep emotional connection that only your partner call fulfill? And that by having sex with other people you're devaluing that connection

I'm just playing devil's advocate here, since you're acting like the rest of the world is secretly resenting their spouses because they can't be polygamous...
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LinksLiege
08/27/18 8:03:17 PM
#65:


Sada_Pop posted...
Metro2 posted...
Just remember. Communicate, communicate, communicate with all parties. That is the key.

If you can keep that up, then I hope you enjoy the experience! Open dates are fun and can bring back new excitement.


This guy gets it

Yeah, it's laughable that people still hold onto this idea that monogamy is strictly the one type of relationship that works for everyone, and anything else is doomed to fail. 7 billion people on the planet now, hundreds of billions more who have come and gone, and not one single person out of all of those might be able to handle an open relationship.
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voldothegr8
08/27/18 8:03:34 PM
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Can you handle it as she gets plowed by Chad?
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_Krave_
08/27/18 8:34:52 PM
#67:


voldothegr8 posted...
Can you handle it as she gets plowed by Chad?

I feel like this hasn't even been adressed by the TC yet.

How you gonna feel when you wanna make love to your wife and she won't because she can't stop thinking about Tyrone, Chad, or Cleofus?
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HiddenLurker
08/27/18 8:39:12 PM
#68:


Chicken posted...
She will get more action than you

Tupacrulez posted...
Have fun with the divorce.

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mattnd2007
08/27/18 8:50:03 PM
#69:


Best of luck to ya. I couldn't do that. But I'm a jealous person.
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TrowaBarton7
08/27/18 8:51:12 PM
#70:


SoundNetwork posted...
My wife and I always "joke" about banging other guys. She always "jokes" about black men and me about Asian women. But I think that is just an indirect way of letting each other know we want to fuck other people. But at the same time she's extremely jealous and if ever make a comment about another woman in real life she destroys.


Why not her with Asian men and you with black women instead?
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Trigg3rH4ppy
08/28/18 3:43:37 AM
#71:


Tc what if like the most you get is like a handjob then find out your wife was shish kabobbed by two frat boys and can't walk right cuz some huge lumberjack dude fucked her in the ass two days later? How would that make you feel? Honestly? I'm dead serious because I know I'm not strong enough to handle that.
no fucking way
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gna647
08/28/18 3:51:16 AM
#72:


Lmao

Your wife is probably getting nailed as we speak

Threesomes probably by two other guys.
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gna647
08/28/18 3:53:40 AM
#73:


Ill be honest

If I saw a girl in an open relationship on tinder I would swipe right always

Theres always some weird satisfaction being able to plow some other guys wife or girlfriend. Idk why.
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Galcian
08/28/18 3:54:12 AM
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MelzezDoor
08/28/18 3:55:28 AM
#75:


MildMannerdPate posted...
If I had to describe it, the new girl is super cute and friendly but my wife is gorgeous and sexy. If I had to choose one its my wife every day of the week. But I just want to try something new if only temporarily. And new girl's personality is quite attractive so there's that.

I don't get it. So if your wife is better looking and you're not looking for a polyamorous relationship(s) to live with your date then why bother? Is your wife's personality that boring or something?
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Mr_Biscuit
08/28/18 3:56:38 AM
#76:


_Krave_ posted...
It just seems weird. I could never fuck another chick, then come home to my happy wife, even if she orchestrated the hookup. I just don't have it in me.

Yeah man. Not for the hottest girl in the world.
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Abyssea
08/28/18 7:04:44 AM
#77:


_Krave_ posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Can you handle it as she gets plowed by Chad?

I feel like this hasn't even been adressed by the TC yet.

How you gonna feel when you wanna make love to your wife and she won't because she can't stop thinking about Tyrone, Chad, or Cleofus?


I'm still not over my one night stand with Cleofus tbh.
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SageHarpuia
08/28/18 8:25:43 AM
#78:


@ people criticizing monogamy What do you even think marriage is?
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Abyssea
08/28/18 8:28:47 AM
#79:


SageHarpuia posted...
@ people criticizing monogamy What do you even think marriage is?


I never thought we'd agree on anything Harpuia, but this. :v I mean, what is the point of getting married in the first place? I think these open relationship situations are doing more damage to the concept of marriage than gay people ever did tbh.
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marthsheretoo
08/28/18 8:29:35 AM
#80:


SageHarpuia posted...
@ people criticizing monogamy What do you even think marriage is?


An institution in which two people pledge to love each other, keep a relationship, grow with each other, cohabitate&cooporate, etc. for the rest of their lives.

That kind of relationship isn't inherently monogamous. Two of the happiest marriages I know of are open. Once I marry my fiancee, that'll be three.
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Abyssea
08/28/18 8:32:16 AM
#81:


marthsheretoo posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
@ people criticizing monogamy What do you even think marriage is?


An institution in which two people pledge to love each other, keep a relationship, grow with each other, cohabitate&corporate, etc. for the rest of their lives.

That kind of relationship isn't inherently monogamous. Two of the happiest marriages I know of are open. Once I marry my fiancee, that'll be three.


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marthsheretoo
08/28/18 8:34:27 AM
#82:


Abyssea posted...
marthsheretoo posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
@ people criticizing monogamy What do you even think marriage is?


An institution in which two people pledge to love each other, keep a relationship, grow with each other, cohabitate&corporate, etc. for the rest of their lives.

That kind of relationship isn't inherently monogamous. Two of the happiest marriages I know of are open. Once I marry my fiancee, that'll be three.


gross


Pretty great, actually. The more love in your life, the better ~
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Abyssea
08/28/18 8:35:49 AM
#83:


marthsheretoo posted...
Pretty great, actually. The more love in your life, the better ~


if you wanna get cucked that's your business, but it is pretty gross. :v
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The Top Crusader
08/28/18 8:37:40 AM
#84:


Lordgold666 posted...
Frostshock posted...
Your marriage is over.

Megaman50100 posted...
A moment of silence for the future of this man's marriage.

Tupacrulez posted...
Have fun with the divorce.


Yep. Know a few people who tried this. Never went well. Not sure why anyone expects anything different.
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marthsheretoo
08/28/18 8:39:23 AM
#85:


Abyssea posted...
marthsheretoo posted...
Pretty great, actually. The more love in your life, the better ~


if you wanna get cucked that's your business, but it is pretty gross. :v


"Open relationships are for cucks" is a tired meme made up by incels with no framework for understanding (or experience having) a healthy romantic relationship of any kind. It has no basis in reality.
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SageHarpuia
08/28/18 8:41:26 AM
#86:


Abyssea posted...
marthsheretoo posted...
Pretty great, actually. The more love in your life, the better ~


if you wanna get cucked that's your business, but it is pretty gross. :v

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Abyssea
08/28/18 8:43:18 AM
#87:


marthsheretoo posted...
Abyssea posted...
marthsheretoo posted...
Pretty great, actually. The more love in your life, the better ~


if you wanna get cucked that's your business, but it is pretty gross. :v


"Open relationships are for cucks" is a tired meme made up by incels with no framework for understanding (or experience having) a healthy romantic relationship of any kind. It has no basis in reality.

^ things cucks say.

Your future wife is gonna get so much more dick than you could potentially get pussy. :v What do you think will happen once she meets a guy who is a better lay than you? Guess you just got yourself a boyfriend. Hope you enjoy sharing the bed with Tyrone! If you don't end up sleeping on the couch that is.
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Darkman124
08/28/18 8:51:36 AM
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OP, subject to consider is whether you'll be OK if after a while she wants to close the relationship again at some point

if you're comfortable with all of this and not feeling uncontrollably jealous you do you, and good luck with the new girl.

my wife brought it up with me, i thought about it, and said no. i knew we were healthy because she accepted that.
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marthsheretoo
08/28/18 8:54:54 AM
#89:


Abyssea posted...
marthsheretoo posted...
Abyssea posted...
marthsheretoo posted...
Pretty great, actually. The more love in your life, the better ~


if you wanna get cucked that's your business, but it is pretty gross. :v


"Open relationships are for cucks" is a tired meme made up by incels with no framework for understanding (or experience having) a healthy romantic relationship of any kind. It has no basis in reality.

^ things cucks say.

Your future wife is gonna get so much more dick than you could potentially get pussy. :v What do you think will happen once she meets a guy who is a better lay than you? Guess you just got yourself a boyfriend. Hope you enjoy sharing the bed with Tyrone! If you don't end up sleeping on the couch that is.


Things incels say, lol. You're so bitter about women that you imagine they can't stop jumping into bed with guys as soon as they have a hall pass and are willing to disrespect their relationship with their life partner to do so. At this point, monogamy won't save you - your hypothetical woman would have no problem cheating to get the dick she craves.

And an insecurity cherry on top of that sundae in that you're so scared of a better lay coming along. It's so easy for you to picture someone better than you in every way taking your girl! Well, that's not me. I know I'm a great partner, both in and out of the bedroom. I get more action than she does It's not about keeping score, but this is a fact and the only time she's had sex with someone who wasn't me in the last 6 months she was having a threesome with me and another gal.

Our relationship is a lot deeper than sex, so I don't fear sex as something that could ruin it.
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Abyssea
08/28/18 9:00:55 AM
#90:


marthsheretoo posted...
Things incels say, lol. You're so bitter about women that you imagine they can't stop jumping into bed with guys as soon as they have a hall pass and are willing to disrespect their relationship with their life partner to do so. At this point, monogamy won't save you - your hypothetical woman would have no problem cheating to get the dick she craves.And an insecurity cherry on top of that sundae in that you're so scared of a better lay coming along. It's so easy for you to picture someone better than you in every way taking your girl! Well, that's not me. I know I'm a great partner, both in and out of the bedroom. I get more action than she does It's not about keeping score, but this is a fact and the only time she's had sex with someone who wasn't me in the last 6 months she was having a threesome with me and another gal.Our relationship is a lot deeper than sex, so I don't fear sex as something that could ruin it.


I'm gay Marth. :v I don't even like women. I'm just trying to help you avoid getting cucked. It sounds like you're into that though, so have at it. I wish you wouldn't call it a marriage though. A relationship between you, your wife, and Tyrone isn't a conventional marriage in the slightest.
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EpicMickeyDrew
08/28/18 9:02:31 AM
#91:


Darkman124 posted...

my wife brought it up with me, i thought about it, and said no. i knew we were healthy because she accepted that.

She's getting plowed by chad dick as we speak
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Abyssea
08/28/18 9:03:23 AM
#92:


EpicMickeyDrew posted...
Darkman124 posted...

my wife brought it up with me, i thought about it, and said no. i knew we were healthy because she accepted that.

She's getting plowed by chad dick as we speak


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marthsheretoo
08/28/18 9:09:06 AM
#93:


Abyssea posted...
I'm gay Marth. :v I don't even like women. I'm just trying to help you avoid getting cucked. It sounds like you're into that though, so have at it. I wish you wouldn't call it a marriage though. A relationship between you, your wife, and Tyrone isn't a conventional marriage in the slightest.


Didn't realize you were gay, haha. Makes me wonder where your idea of women as dick-crazy harpies came from in the first place.

And as a gay person, I feel like you should have an understanding of why puritans who fight against non-traditional marriages are full of shit. Oh well - I'll be fighting for your rights either way. And if my wife does ever meet Tyrone, I'll send him your way. Sounds like you could use the lay.
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DeadSite
08/28/18 9:14:40 AM
#94:


marthsheretoo posted...
Abyssea posted...
I'm gay Marth. :v I don't even like women. I'm just trying to help you avoid getting cucked. It sounds like you're into that though, so have at it. I wish you wouldn't call it a marriage though. A relationship between you, your wife, and Tyrone isn't a conventional marriage in the slightest.


Didn't realize you were gay, haha. Makes me wonder where your idea of women as dick-crazy harpies came from in the first place.

And as a gay person, I feel like you should have an understanding of why puritans who fight against non-traditional marriages are full of shit. Oh well - I'll be fighting for your rights either way. And if my wife does ever meet Tyrone, I'll send him your way. Sounds like you could use the lay.

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Abyssea
08/28/18 9:14:56 AM
#95:


marthsheretoo posted...
Abyssea posted...
I'm gay Marth. :v I don't even like women. I'm just trying to help you avoid getting cucked. It sounds like you're into that though, so have at it. I wish you wouldn't call it a marriage though. A relationship between you, your wife, and Tyrone isn't a conventional marriage in the slightest.


Didn't realize you were gay, haha. Makes me wonder where your idea of women as dick-crazy harpies came from in the first place.

And as a gay person, I feel like you should have an understanding of why puritans who fight against non-traditional marriages are full of shit. Oh well - I'll be fighting for your rights either way. And if my wife does ever meet Tyrone, I'll send him your way. Sounds like you could use the lay.


I just think monogamy is important. :o And I wouldn't want to share a man with your wife either, so you guys can keep Tyrone. Cleofus is enough for me.
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Ki_cat_
08/28/18 9:20:14 AM
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If it works for you, great. Dating/messing around casually can work for people. We're just naturally emotional and junk so a lot of the time people just end up burned a bit.

As for my view, it's completely valid if people want to stick to one human. Not everyone has resent or repressed feelings because not everyone marries or picks their high school partner. A lot of people get urges and try out many people and simply want to settle down with one person around your age, give or take some years.

You might have all these feelings because you only know her so hey, maybe mutual messing around can work. Just let people know you're not looking to be serious.
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marthsheretoo
08/28/18 9:22:18 AM
#97:


Abyssea posted...
marthsheretoo posted...
Abyssea posted...
I'm gay Marth. :v I don't even like women. I'm just trying to help you avoid getting cucked. It sounds like you're into that though, so have at it. I wish you wouldn't call it a marriage though. A relationship between you, your wife, and Tyrone isn't a conventional marriage in the slightest.


Didn't realize you were gay, haha. Makes me wonder where your idea of women as dick-crazy harpies came from in the first place.

And as a gay person, I feel like you should have an understanding of why puritans who fight against non-traditional marriages are full of shit. Oh well - I'll be fighting for your rights either way. And if my wife does ever meet Tyrone, I'll send him your way. Sounds like you could use the lay.


I just think monogamy is important. :o And I wouldn't want to share a man with your wife either, so you guys can keep Tyrone. Cleofus is enough for me.


Totally valid that you find monogamy important but the world will be a better place when the last person realizes that what is true for them isn't necessarily true for everyone.
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LinksLiege
08/28/18 9:52:02 AM
#98:


marthsheretoo posted...
"Open relationships are for cucks" is a tired meme made up by incels with no framework for understanding (or experience having) a healthy romantic relationship of any kind. It has no basis in reality.

No shock why it sticks around here.

Definitely a good idea to trust relationship advice from this place.
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MildMannerdPate
08/28/18 10:14:04 AM
#99:


UPDATE

The date went well. We had fun. Didn't take it any further than a hug as I think is appropriate for a first date.

My wife has yet to divorce me. In fact we had sex when I got home and it was great as usual.
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MildMannerdPate
08/28/18 10:17:47 AM
#100:


To all the people saying my wife will get more action than me... we have technically been in the "open relationship" phase for several years and this is literally the first time a date has occurred and it was on my half. And she's generally not interested in the vast majority of guys. Not to mention that after 11 years of a sexual relationship, safe to say I'm pretty confident that I'm a better lover to her than any random in the street. I have zero worries about this.

Darkman124 posted...
OP, subject to consider is whether you'll be OK if after a while she wants to close the relationship again at some point

if you're comfortable with all of this and not feeling uncontrollably jealous you do you, and good luck with the new girl.

my wife brought it up with me, i thought about it, and said no. i knew we were healthy because she accepted that.


I'm totally fine if she wants to close it again at some point. That was part of the boundaries we had previously set. She knows she comes first (literally and figuratively) at all times.

Even though she has yet to have an outside date I don't see myself getting jealous. I know how strong our relationship is and I'm not a hypocrite.

That's awesome about your relationship though. As long as you both are comfortable with being closed then that's great. We are still young and still experimenting a little bit. Who knows if it will stick or not but at this point we are content with trying new things.
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chrono625
08/28/18 10:20:10 AM
#101:


MildMannerdPate posted...


She has been asked on dates and said along the lines of, "Yes but I'm in an open relationship so I can't be your gf" and the guys always get turned off by that.


"I can't be your gf but you can blast me all you want!"
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Deedice
08/28/18 10:21:06 AM
#102:


green butter posted...
what is even the point of getting married if youre going to do something like this


The answer is zero. There is zero point
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