Poll of the Day > Is cancer development on the rise?

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I don't know the statistics or numbers of cancer as a whole, do you think a higher and higher percentage of the population is getting some form of it?

This year my mom was diagnosed with a type of throat cancer, weeks of hell with radiation and chemo and thankfully I can wonderfully say they got it, her latest scan shows the cancer is 100% gone. Hopefully it stays gone.

It's just been a matter of weeks and now my boss at work, she just got diagnosed with a form of breast cancer. Hasn't made it to her lymph nodes but the mass is large at 5cm.

Like seriously.. stop it nature...

I dunno just seems like everyone is getting cancer at some point in their lives theses days. Do you think its more than it used to be (percentage of population wise)? If so do yo think it's something man-made? As in if we lived a more natural existence there wouldn't be as much cancer, its being caused by things we do/create/change/manipulate.
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I think we've become better at detecting it. Determining symptoms and diagnosing the disease. Cancer probably predates man. Just that centuries ago they didn't know what it was and/or didn't always discover what was killing people.
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I actually looked this up and apparently is was rarer before. We have more carcinogens around now and people live longer so are more likely to get it as well.
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^ What both of them said.

There were times in civilized history where we weren't even aware of its existence, you know? Also, the carcinogen thing bums me out so fucking much. We're so aware of it and have a lot of alternatives, yet nobody up in goverment offices cares to make changes.

Whatever man, this topic just bums me out lol

Glad to hear your mom recovered, TC. That's always great news.

Everyone eventually gets cancer, unless you die first. It's the biological equivalent to rust.
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They have found dinosaur bones that showed signs of tumors IIRC.
So yeah, cancer has been around for millions of years.

Also, isn't cancer in the throat usually really hard to find before it's too late?
What symptoms did she have?
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LeetCheet posted...

They have found dinosaur bones that showed signs of tumors IIRC.
So yeah, cancer has been around for millions of years.

Also, isn't cancer in the throat usually really hard to find before it's too late?
What symptoms did she have?

Depends on the type of cancer

Hodgkin's lymphoma is somewhat common and its usually not discovered until someone notices theyre lymph nodes are swollen, its generally one of the more treatable cancers
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LeetCheet posted...

They have found dinosaur bones that showed signs of tumors IIRC.
So yeah, cancer has been around for millions of years.

Also, isn't cancer in the throat usually really hard to find before it's too late?
What symptoms did she have?

Flat earthers don't believe in dinosaurs.
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I have known a bunch of people who got cancer (and died from it), but in most of their cases it was hereditary. I think really since cancer doesn't show up until your 50's or 60's at least, we just are outliving a lot of other diseases so cancer ends up taking us instead. I mean sure there is stuff that causes it, but for the most part it is probably just due to longer life spans.
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supergamer19 posted...

Everyone eventually gets cancer, unless you die first. It's the biological equivalent to rust.

Came in to say this. If you live long enough, you'll eventually get cancer. The issue is people living longer than ever before. Just like aging, it's a cellular-level defect.
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Zeus posted...

Came in to say this. If you live long enough, you'll eventually get cancer. The issue is people living longer than ever before. Just like aging, it's a cellular-level defect.

What would happen if they fully find a cure for it?
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Revelation34 posted...

Zeus posted...

Came in to say this. If you live long enough, you'll eventually get cancer. The issue is people living longer than ever before. Just like aging, it's a cellular-level defect.

What would happen if they fully find a cure for it?

Cure for aging or cancer? If cancer wasn't an issue, something else would eventually kill us if we lived long ago because of aging. If aging was cured, people could live indefinitely (especially if it was halted an earlier age when the body was capable of greater self-repair).

If you're asking for the social impacts of letting people live twice their lifespans, it would probably balance out with a shrinking birthrate and expansion into space.
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Dikitain posted...

I think really since cancer doesn't show up until your 50's or 60's at least

What? You can literally get cancer at any age. It's not exclusively something older people get. Nearly 100,000 children die from cancer every year.

Zeus posted...

Revelation34 posted...

Zeus posted...

Came in to say this. If you live long enough, you'll eventually get cancer. The issue is people living longer than ever before. Just like aging, it's a cellular-level defect.

What would happen if they fully find a cure for it?

Cure for aging or cancer? If cancer wasn't an issue, something else would eventually kill us if we lived long ago because of aging. If aging was cured, people could live indefinitely (especially if it was halted an earlier age when the body was capable of greater self-repair).

If you're asking for the social impacts of letting people live twice their lifespans, it would probably balance out with a shrinking birthrate and expansion into space.

Yeah, the human body generally starts falling apart at a rapid pace once you hit your 80s. All four of my grandparents lived until at least their mid 80s to early 90s. They were healthy up until they hit their early 80s and then their health started deteriorating rapidly. My maternal grandmother lived the longest to age 92, but honestly she was a shell of her former self by then. Her mind basically died years before her physical body because she got Alzheimers and shit like that and in the end she couldn't even remember the names of her family.

People say they would like to live to 100 and stuff like that. I sure as hell would not want to live that long. Your quality of life decreases at such a rapid pace once you hit your 80s, and your early-mid 80s is really the ideal age to die in my opinion. I hope to god I don't live to 90+ and go through the same shit my maternal grandmother went through.

I still believe we already have a cancer cure, and that the government just won't sell it to us due to corruption. Companies are selling 5 dollar medicine at a cost of 150/pill, so it wouldn't be surprising if it were true.

Ivany2008 posted...

I still believe we already have a cancer cure, and that the government just won't sell it to us due to corruption. Companies are selling 5 dollar medicine at a cost of 150/pill, so it wouldn't be surprising if it were true.

Do you wear a tin foil hat?

By your logic of selling medicine at a huge markup, if there was a cure to cancer, then they WOULD be selling it, but only millionaires could afford it. It makes zero sense to actually create a product that you never sell. So if there was actually a cure, they would be selling it to the rich people.

Also, $5 medicine does exist, and you can buy it. Its called generic drugs. There is nothing wrong with taking generics. They're not any less effective than the brand-name drugs.

So quit it with your conspiracy theories that make no sense in the real logical world.

Ivany2008 posted...

I still believe we already have a cancer cure, and that the government just won't sell it to us due to corruption. Companies are selling 5 dollar medicine at a cost of 150/pill, so it wouldn't be surprising if it were true.

They might have a cure for one type of cancer but we don't have the kind of knowledge required for curing every cancer type.

rogerskg1979 posted...

They're not any less effective than the brand-name drugs.

They are for some things.
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rogerskg1979 posted...

Ivany2008 posted...

I still believe we already have a cancer cure, and that the government just won't sell it to us due to corruption. Companies are selling 5 dollar medicine at a cost of 150/pill, so it wouldn't be surprising if it were true.

Do you wear a tin foil hat?

By your logic of selling medicine at a huge markup, if there was a cure to cancer, then they WOULD be selling it, but only millionaires could afford it. It makes zero sense to actually create a product that you never sell. So if there was actually a cure, they would be selling it to the rich people.

Also, $5 medicine does exist, and you can buy it. Its called generic drugs. There is nothing wrong with taking generics. They're not any less effective than the brand-name drugs.

So quit it with your conspiracy theories that make no sense in the real logical world.

I'm not trying to make conspiracy theories, but you got to admit its a bit fishy. We have donated literal billions to cancer research and it still hasn't amounted for jack shit. We have been using radiation treatment for almost 100 years(if my brief research is correct), and still for all, we haven't come up with a better way to solve the cancer problem.

All this money and the worlds brightest scientists can't figure out how to end the cancer scare for good? We have evolved technology far beyond comprehension, sent a man on to the moon, and somehow managed to catch the worlds most dangerous villains but we cant solve this issues?

People are living longer; in the past you'd likely die from any number of now curable diseases long before any cancer began to develop.

Cancer is also more detectable. In the past people who actually had cancer would usually just up and die and nobody would know why. Autopsies are a fairly recent thing, up until about the 18th century cutting into a cadaver, even for medical research, was extremely rare.

Ivany2008 posted...

rogerskg1979 posted...

Ivany2008 posted...

I still believe we already have a cancer cure, and that the government just won't sell it to us due to corruption. Companies are selling 5 dollar medicine at a cost of 150/pill, so it wouldn't be surprising if it were true.

Do you wear a tin foil hat?

By your logic of selling medicine at a huge markup, if there was a cure to cancer, then they WOULD be selling it, but only millionaires could afford it. It makes zero sense to actually create a product that you never sell. So if there was actually a cure, they would be selling it to the rich people.

Also, $5 medicine does exist, and you can buy it. Its called generic drugs. There is nothing wrong with taking generics. They're not any less effective than the brand-name drugs.

So quit it with your conspiracy theories that make no sense in the real logical world.

I'm not trying to make conspiracy theories, but you got to admit its a bit fishy. We have donated literal billions to cancer research and it still hasn't amounted for jack shit. We have been using radiation treatment for almost 100 years(if my brief research is correct), and still for all, we haven't come up with a better way to solve the cancer problem.

All this money and the worlds brightest scientists can't figure out how to end the cancer scare for good? We have evolved technology far beyond comprehension, sent a man on to the moon, and somehow managed to catch the worlds most dangerous villains but we cant solve this issues?

So are you also saying that it is fishy that we haven't cured the common cold yet as well? There's a lot of shit we haven't been able to do yet. It doesn't make it fishy. We just haven't discovered it yet.

You need to cull the population somehow. *Snap*

Ivany2008 posted...

but we cant solve this issues?

i dont think u understand what cancer is, its not something that has a simple cause to fix its a defect in biology

KaptainKiro posted...

Ivany2008 posted...

but we cant solve this issues?

i dont think u understand what cancer is, its not something that has a simple cause to fix its a defect in biology

that's not exactly what I'm getting at. Let me try and clarify. In past 100 years we advanced so far in terms of technology and other forms of research. We have supposedly sent a man into space/landed on the moon, turned a giant stadiums worth of technology into the palm of our hands, and cured many of the much more serious diseases than the common cold.

But for other diseases, we have been on a standstill for almost a hundred years. The common cold/flu, Cancer, and the like, and it just makes me question whether pharma companies want to find a cure for these things, due to how profitable these things are for said companies.

There was an article a few years ago about an Aids pill I think it was, where the normal cost was 13 dollars a pill, but big Pharma purposely jacked the price to 750 dollars each, which is why my line of thinking headed towards things like Cancer medication/cures, due to the shady nature of these businesses and how they purposely hide information from the public.

So, yes, I understand that its a defect in biology. What I'm trying to say, is that if there is a true cure for cancer already, I have my doubts we will see it any time soon, or even in our own lifetimes. If it exists, its only known to a small portion of the population(the high millionaires, or billionaires), or they keep it for themselves and just sell the temporary fix as they can make huge profit off of it.

But if it doesn't exist, I have my doubts it will exist, due to how profitable temp. fixes are for bigger companies.

Ivany2008 posted...

We have supposedly sent a man into space/landed on the moon

Oh you really are a tin foil hat wearer.
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Revelation34 posted...

Ivany2008 posted...

We have supposedly sent a man into space/landed on the moon

Oh you really are a tin foil hat wearer.

sigh, what's it like believing everything your told? must be nice. I'm not saying it didn't happen. There are just things that make me think otherwise. Better to be the person to question things than someone who accepts everything at face value.

Ivany2008 posted...

sigh, what's it like believing everything your told? must be nice. I'm not saying it didn't happen. There are just things that make me think otherwise.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/supposedly
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Revelation34 posted...

Ivany2008 posted...

sigh, what's it like believing everything your told? must be nice. I'm not saying it didn't happen. There are just things that make me think otherwise.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/supposedly

yeah, I'm just going to ignore you now. Have a nice day.

Ivany2008 posted...

yeah, I'm just going to ignore you now. Have a nice day.

Enjoy your hat.
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rogerskg1979 posted...

People say they would like to live to 100 and stuff like that. I sure as hell would not want to live that long. Your quality of life decreases at such a rapid pace once you hit your 80s, and your early-mid 80s is really the ideal age to die in my opinion. I hope to god I don't live to 90+ and go through the same shit my maternal grandmother went through.

Well, when people say stuff like that, it's with the implicit understanding that they'll still have a half-way decent quality of life. While that obviously won't be part of the reality for most people who hit that age, it's part of the fantasy of hitting that age.

Ivany2008 posted...

I still believe we already have a cancer cure, and that the government just won't sell it to us due to corruption. Companies are selling 5 dollar medicine at a cost of 150/pill, so it wouldn't be surprising if it were true.

If the government somehow had it, then the public would have it. If private companies had it, they'd be offering it to the super-rich. The fact that Steve Jobs died of cancer is about the strongest proof out there that we don't have an actual cure for it because a guy like Steve Jobs would be able to get his hands on it.

Ivany2008 posted...

that's not exactly what I'm getting at. Let me try and clarify. In past 100 years we advanced so far in terms of technology and other forms of research. We have supposedly sent a man into space/landed on the moon, turned a giant stadiums worth of technology into the palm of our hands, and cured many of the much more serious diseases than the common cold.

Let me try and clarify. We can put a man on the moon, so why can't we put a man on the sun? >_>

Ivany2008 posted...

But for other diseases, we have been on a standstill for almost a hundred years. The common cold/flu, Cancer, and the like, and it just makes me question whether pharma companies want to find a cure for these things, due to how profitable these things are for said companies.

The problem is that you don't understand how any of that shit works, so you assume vast government conspiracy.

Ivany2008 posted...

I'm not saying it didn't happen.

But you are strongly suggesting it. If somebody put "supposedly the Holocaust happened," what would be your first thoughts? Because the answer is generally, "Why the fuck is 'supposedly' there? Does the speaker not believe it happened?"
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Zeus posted...

If the government somehow had it, then the public would have it. If private companies had it, they'd be offering it to the super-rich. The fact that Steve Jobs died of cancer is about the strongest proof out there that we don't have an actual cure for it because a guy like Steve Jobs would be able to get his hands on it.

In addition to Steve Jobs, John McCain just literally died a few days ago from cancer. McCain was part of the "corrupt government" as Ivany2008 calls it. If there was a cure, McCain definitely would have had it and wouldn't have died. Ivany2008 has no fucking clue what he's talking about.

Zeus posted...

Let me try and clarify. We can put a man on the moon, so why can't we put a man on the sun? >_>

Yeah, his man on the moon argument is highly flawed because spacetravel has pretty much been at a standstill since then. We haven't put a man on Mars yet. That's the next logical step, and we're nowhere close to doing that anytime soon.

rogerskg1979 posted...

In addition to Steve Jobs, John McCain just literally died a few days ago from cancer. McCain was part of the "corrupt government" as Ivany2008 calls it. If there was a cure, McCain definitely would have had it and wouldn't have died. Ivany2008 has no f***ing clue what he's talking about.

No man, they staged mccain's death so we wouldn't be suspicious!

rogerskg1979 posted...

Yeah, his man on the moon argument is highly flawed because spacetravel has pretty much been at a standstill since then. We haven't put a man on Mars yet. That's the next logical step, and we're nowhere close to doing that anytime soon.

We probably could manage a manned Mars mission but it just makes more sense to send rovers these days rather than actual people because of the costs and risk and all that

all I'm trying to tell you is don't believe everything you see. Just because you saw it on television or read about it on the internet, doesn't mean its always true. If you want to read into that believing that I'm telling you that a cure for cancer exists, but isn't available to the public then go right ahead, I really don't care anymore. Its more profitable for a drug dealer to sell a quick fix, than it is to sell a cure, or overdose.

If you sit there not questioning anything, you may as well be part of the truman show.

Treatments of a disease are far more profitable than a cure. Even if a cure was sold to millionaires, that is a limited number of people. Versus potential millions of people each paying thousands of dollars for their treatments on a weekly basis.

Not saying i believe there is a cure. If there was one i believe we would know about it. Just saying from a business standpoint a cure is far less profitable.
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Ivany2008 posted...

all I'm trying to tell you is don't believe everything you see. Just because you saw it on television or read about it on the internet, doesn't mean its always true. If you want to read into that believing that I'm telling you that a cure for cancer exists, but isn't available to the public then go right ahead, I really don't care anymore. Its more profitable for a drug dealer to sell a quick fix, than it is to sell a cure, or overdose.

If you sit there not questioning anything, you may as well be part of the truman show.

To believe that it's even possible that a cancer cure is being covered up is complete lunacy my dude. To believe that it's possible to keep that many mouths shut is ridiculous. Not to mention, you'd have to believe that they've murdered any team of scientists that have found the cure because surely they would want recognition for their discovery right? I think the problem is that you've seen too many movies like the Truman show instead of actually getting out of the house

OhhhJa posted...

Ivany2008 posted...

all I'm trying to tell you is don't believe everything you see. Just because you saw it on television or read about it on the internet, doesn't mean its always true. If you want to read into that believing that I'm telling you that a cure for cancer exists, but isn't available to the public then go right ahead, I really don't care anymore. Its more profitable for a drug dealer to sell a quick fix, than it is to sell a cure, or overdose.

If you sit there not questioning anything, you may as well be part of the truman show.

To believe that it's even possible that a cancer cure is being covered up is complete lunacy my dude. To believe that it's possible to keep that many mouths shut is ridiculous. Not to mention, you'd have to believe that they've murdered any team of scientists that have found the cure because surely they would want recognition for their discovery right? I think the problem is that you've seen too many movies like the Truman show instead of actually getting out of the house

And what is wrong with questioning traditional logic? If we accepted things at face value we wouldn't have advanced as far as we have as a society

Eye cancer is on the rise. I suspect it has something to do with human attachment to screens, but who knows. It could be more UV rays getting through the atmosphere or something. I was treated for ocular melanoma last year, so it's interesting to see how much more common it's becoming. Some articles about it:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ocular-melanoma-rare-eye-cancer-mystery-research-funding/

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/cancer/unusual-cases-rare-eye-melanoma-puzzle-doctors-two-states-n870551

I didn't even know Eye cancer was a thing. Goes to show how complex and different cancer is compared to most other diseases like viral infections.
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OhhhJa posted...

rogerskg1979 posted...

In addition to Steve Jobs, John McCain just literally died a few days ago from cancer. McCain was part of the "corrupt government" as Ivany2008 calls it. If there was a cure, McCain definitely would have had it and wouldn't have died. Ivany2008 has no f***ing clue what he's talking about.

No man, they staged mccain's death so we wouldn't be suspicious!

I know you're just joking, but I wouldn't be surprised if some conspiracy nuts believe shit like that.

A far more logical thing to do would be just to give McCain the cure and tell the public that the chemo treatment is what healed him.

LeetCheet posted...

I didn't even know Eye cancer was a thing. Goes to show how complex and different cancer is compared to most other diseases like viral infections.

You can get cancer in any part of your body. Every part of your body is made up of cells. Cells get old and die just like anything else. New cells are born and multiply to replace the older cells. Cancer is literally a new cell that is created with a defect. The cancerous cell then spreads and retains that defect as it multiplies. One cancerous cell becomes two, which becomes four, which becomes eight, and so on. That's how it spreads so fast.

That's why cancer is nearly impossible to actually cure. It's literally a defect in our own cells, and it can occur in any cell in the body. Every cell is vastly different too. Eye cells are different from skin cells which are different from heart cells.

People who think cancer is so easily cured just don't comprehend how complex all that actually is. It's far more complex than something like the common cold or flu, and we haven't even cured those.

The fact that cancer is a defect in the way a new cell is created is really scary when you think about it. That basically means everyone is going to get cancer if they live long enough. Cancer isn't a matter of if, but rather it's a matter of when. That defect can happen at any time, and it's going to happen eventually. Think of it like someone who is writing a paper on a computer. No matter how good that person is at typing, eventually that person is going to make a typo. There's no such thing as the perfect typist who never makes a typo. Cancer is a typo in our body, and unlike a typo on a computer, our bodies can't delete the cancer typo.

My Aunt's husband and mother died of cancer within a month of eachother last year. Shortly after, her sister was also diagnosed, apparently after it had spread. I do seem to be hearing about iit more.
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rogerskg1979 posted...

The fact that cancer is a defect in the way a new cell is created is really scary when you think about it. That basically means everyone is going to get cancer if they live long enough. Cancer isn't a matter of if, but rather it's a matter of when. That defect can happen at any time, and it's going to happen eventually. Think of it like someone who is writing a paper on a computer. No matter how good that person is at typing, eventually that person is going to make a typo. There's no such thing as the perfect typist who never makes a typo. Cancer is a typo in our body, and unlike a typo on a computer, our bodies can't delete the cancer typo.

Makes sense, though if humanity is advanced enough to extend the lifespan to hundreds of years, cancer will most likely be eradicated, as well.
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Ivany2008 posted...

all I'm trying to tell you is don't believe everything you see. Just because you saw it on television or read about it on the internet, doesn't mean its always true. If you want to read into that believing that I'm telling you that a cure for cancer exists, but isn't available to the public then go right ahead, I really don't care anymore. Its more profitable for a drug dealer to sell a quick fix, than it is to sell a cure, or overdose.

If you sit there not questioning anything, you may as well be part of the truman show.

That same logic can be used against you for thinking a cure for cancer exists. It can also be used against people who think the earth is flat or that the Sandy Hook shooting was a hoax.

CaptainObvius posted...

Treatments of a disease are far more profitable than a cure. Even if a cure was sold to millionaires, that is a limited number of people. Versus potential millions of people each paying thousands of dollars for their treatments on a weekly basis.

Not saying i believe there is a cure. If there was one i believe we would know about it. Just saying from a business standpoint a cure is far less profitable.

Zeus' example about Steve Jobs is an exception to this. It would be more profitable to have cured somebody like him because of how innovative he was.

rogerskg1979 posted...

That's why cancer is nearly impossible to actually cure. It's literally a defect in our own cells, and it can occur in any cell in the body. Every cell is vastly different too. Eye cells are different from skin cells which are different from heart cells.

We would have to get into the extreme science fiction of genetic engineering to cure it 100%.
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rogerskg1979 posted...

In addition to Steve Jobs, John McCain just literally died a few days ago from cancer. McCain was part of the "corrupt government" as Ivany2008 calls it. If there was a cure, McCain definitely would have had it and wouldn't have died. Ivany2008 has no fucking clue what he's talking about.

tbh, later that same night the thought had occurred to me and I had been tempted to come back and add that, as well as the fact that Ted Kennedy died from brain cancer as well (among countless others) so it would have to be a vast bi-partisan conspiracy.

Ivany2008 posted...

all I'm trying to tell you is don't believe everything you see. Just because you saw it on television or read about it on the internet, doesn't mean its always true.

Yeah, just like George Washington wasn't actually our first president and JFK staged his death so he could live in secret with the also-not-dead Marilyn Monroe! TV, internet, history books, and everybody just lies about stuff like that! =p

Ivany2008 posted...

If you want to read into that believing that I'm telling you that a cure for cancer exists, but isn't available to the public then go right ahead,

No, what we read is that YOU believe that a cure for cancer exists yet it's being withheld not just from the public, but also the government and super-rich. At that point, it just raises the question why would they bother researching a cure at all?

Ivany2008 posted...

If you sit there not questioning anything, you may as well be part of the truman show.

If you sit there claiming that you do, you may as well be part of Conspiracy Fans Say the Darnest Things.

CaptainObvius posted...

Treatments of a disease are far more profitable than a cure. Even if a cure was sold to millionaires, that is a limited number of people. Versus potential millions of people each paying thousands of dollars for their treatments on a weekly basis.

Not saying i believe there is a cure. If there was one i believe we would know about it. Just saying from a business standpoint a cure is far less profitable.

Again, the problem with that argument is that *government* and non-profit research has gone into it and the government and non-profits have no incentive to not release a cure. Likewise, if businesses wanted to make money treating it, why waste money finding a cure?

Ivany2008 posted...

And what is wrong with questioning traditional logic? If we accepted things at face value we wouldn't have advanced as far as we have as a society

The problem is there's no logic or reasoning to your assertion. It's like religion questioning science. Sure, science could be wrong, but religion is usually making its shit up as it goes along (with the obvious exception of ancient Greece, which is all true... well, except for some negative claims about my sexcapades)
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anyways, I'm done. Obviously we disagree on a few things, and I'm not going to take this any further than it has gone. You all have a nice day.

Ivany2008 posted...

anyways, I'm done. Obviously we disagree on a few things, and I'm not going to take this any further than it has gone. You all have a nice day.

I'll just leave you with this. Just because you think something should be done a certain way, doesn't mean others think the same way. Money drives motives. More money can be made from a temporary fix than an overall cure. And I'm just speaking in general right now. Even assuming a cure doesn't exist. If it did exist, chances are companies would do all they could to profit off the quick fix, rather than the long term solution. Because once the long term solution is revealed, you will start to have competition to lower the price of the solution to the point where big companies won't be profiting anymore.

The problem with conspiracy theorists is that they always think they're smarter than everyone else. Actually, that's what drives conspiracy theorists. It's the need to tell everyone, "hey I know something nobody else does! You guys are all sheep and I'm Aristotle!"

If we really did found a cure for cancer one day, we would just get another problem on our hands. Overpopulation, because much less people would die every year.
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OhhhJa posted...

Ivany2008 posted...

anyways, I'm done. Obviously we disagree on a few things, and I'm not going to take this any further than it has gone. You all have a nice day.

I'll just leave you with this. Just because you think something should be done a certain way, doesn't mean others think the same way. Money drives motives. More money can be made from a temporary fix than an overall cure. And I'm just speaking in general right now. Even assuming a cure doesn't exist. If it did exist, chances are companies would do all they could to profit off the quick fix, rather than the long term solution. Because once the long term solution is revealed, you will start to have competition to lower the price of the solution to the point where big companies won't be profiting anymore.

The problem with conspiracy theorists is that they always think they're smarter than everyone else. Actually, that's what drives conspiracy theorists. It's the need to tell everyone, "hey I know something nobody else does! You guys are all sheep and I'm Aristotle!"

DunningKruger effect