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Tyranthraxus
08/26/18 2:55:06 AM
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Her gig as a flower girl is literally a disguise to hide from Shinra

She knew the entire time Cloud's memories were false and allowed him to believe them

Had the white materia the whole game and disguised it as her hair ornament


She's probably the least ethical person on your party unless you count Sephiroth
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Reis
08/26/18 2:59:33 AM
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her voice actress is kh2 was also terrible
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Trigg3rH4ppy
08/26/18 3:02:16 AM
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Aeris*
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SH_expert44
08/26/18 3:02:59 AM
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well, good thing she got what was comin, eh?
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Tyranthraxus
08/26/18 3:11:29 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Aeris*

This guy are sick
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Shotgunnova
08/26/18 3:18:18 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Aeris*

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Reis
08/26/18 3:18:56 AM
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Shotgunnova posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Aeris*

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pauIie
08/26/18 3:20:15 AM
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Shotgunnova posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Aeris*

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Tyranthraxus
08/26/18 3:33:41 AM
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Those guys is sick
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jumi
08/26/18 4:27:19 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Her gig as a flower girl is literally a disguise to hide from Shinra

She knew the entire time Cloud's memories were false and allowed him to believe them

Had the white materia the whole game and disguised it as her hair ornament


She's probably the least ethical person on your party unless you count Sephiroth


1. She literally sold flowers for a living.

2. No she didn't. Cloud's only false memories were from Nibelheim burning until the present.

3. She flat-out tells you it's a materia that doesn't do anything.

This topic is a giant reach.
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spikethedevil
08/26/18 4:29:56 AM
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Aeris is a translation error it has been Aerith in everything since.

jumi posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Her gig as a flower girl is literally a disguise to hide from Shinra

She knew the entire time Cloud's memories were false and allowed him to believe them

Had the white materia the whole game and disguised it as her hair ornament


She's probably the least ethical person on your party unless you count Sephiroth


1. She literally sold flowers for a living.

2. No she didn't. Cloud's only false memories were from Nibelheim burning until the present.

3. She flat-out tells you it's a materia that doesn't do anything.

This topic is a giant reach.


Also this.

Oh and The whole game? She's only in disc 1.
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Ricemills
08/26/18 4:34:02 AM
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"flower peddler" is Japanese euphynism for prostitute. take that as you will.
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spikethedevil
08/26/18 4:35:07 AM
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Ricemills posted...
"flower peddler" is Japanese euphynism for prostitute. take that as you will.


Except the game never calls her a peddler and she literally sells Cloud a literall flower.
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Ricemills
08/26/18 4:36:02 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Ricemills posted...
"flower peddler" is Japanese euphynism for prostitute. take that as you will.


Except the game never calls her a peddler and she literally sells Cloud a literall flower.


like I said, take that as you will.
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MrMallard
08/26/18 4:38:04 AM
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That's what suprised me when I got around to watching a FF7 stream. Before that, I had only seen Advent Children and heard a bunch of the music, so I thought that the characters were going to be pretty cut-and-paste - Aerith is girly and innocent and too good for this sinful world, Cloud is a sad badass with an awesome sword etc. But Aerith can hustle, and she's not afraid to get her hands dirty to get what she wants. I think that's why I enjoyed the stream so much, because there was more meat to her character than I realised.
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scar the 1
08/26/18 4:38:34 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Ricemills posted...
"flower peddler" is Japanese euphynism for prostitute. take that as you will.


Except the game never calls her a peddler and she literally sells Cloud a literall flower.

Wow, euphemisms aren't your strong side huh
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spikethedevil
08/26/18 4:40:26 AM
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I know it's a euphemism but the game never really uses it as such and clearly shows she isn't a hooker.
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Fantastein
08/26/18 4:43:15 AM
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Y'know, even IF we were to accept all that as evidence that Aerith is unethical (which I don't, but anyway), would she really still be a more unethical character than, y'know, Cait Sith, given the whole keystone part?
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scar the 1
08/26/18 4:45:15 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
I know it's a euphemism but the game never really uses it as such and clearly shows she isn't a hooker.

I know you know it's a euphemism, the issue is that you seem to be under the impression that there are some specific, literal rules dictating how to use them "correctly".
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spikethedevil
08/26/18 4:48:52 AM
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Not what I meant, I was just pointing out that the game ignores it as a euphemism.
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FluttershyPony
08/26/18 4:48:56 AM
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who's aerith? is she related to tidaa, tina, kurodo, bullet, buttz. jitan, cipher and vanilla?
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scar the 1
08/26/18 4:53:39 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Not what I meant, I was just pointing out that the game ignores it as a euphemism.

Not really sure what that's supposed to mean. If you assume that flower girl is a euphemism, then the game goes all in.
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spikethedevil
08/26/18 4:55:17 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Not what I meant, I was just pointing out that the game ignores it as a euphemism.

Not really sure what that's supposed to mean. If you assume that flower girl is a euphemism, then the game goes all in.


How does it go all in when all she is literally selling flowers and nothing else?
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tamashiini
08/26/18 4:59:12 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
scar the 1 posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Not what I meant, I was just pointing out that the game ignores it as a euphemism.

Not really sure what that's supposed to mean. If you assume that flower girl is a euphemism, then the game goes all in.


How does it go all in when all she is literally selling flowers and nothing else?


What part of 'euphemism' are you not understanding?
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spikethedevil
08/26/18 5:01:41 AM
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Again I get that it's a euphemism but the game never goes that route at all bar maybe a couple of lines at a stretch.
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Ricemills
08/26/18 5:04:39 AM
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I just realized I typed euphemism wrong, lol.
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scar the 1
08/26/18 5:05:07 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
scar the 1 posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Not what I meant, I was just pointing out that the game ignores it as a euphemism.

Not really sure what that's supposed to mean. If you assume that flower girl is a euphemism, then the game goes all in.


How does it go all in when all she is literally selling flowers and nothing else?

The point isn't that she called herself a flower girl to mislead people in-universe.
The point would be that the game consistently portrays her as a flower girl to mislead the audience.
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spikethedevil
08/26/18 5:06:32 AM
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A couple of lines ar funnier if you take it as her saying she is a hooker but with what the game shows us she is literally just a flower seller with a lot of street smarts.
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GodofLegend
08/26/18 5:06:57 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Again I get that it's a euphemism but the game never goes that route at all bar maybe a couple of lines at a stretch.

But those lines are pretty shady...the whole Honey Bee Inn was beyond funny. Aeris knows how to play the game....
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spikethedevil
08/26/18 5:09:19 AM
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GodofLegend posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Again I get that it's a euphemism but the game never goes that route at all bar maybe a couple of lines at a stretch.

But those lines are pretty shady...the whole Honey Bee Inn was beyond funny. Aeris knows how to play the game....


Honey Bee Inn was one of the parts I was thinking of lol. She has plenty of street smarts and knows how to string a guy along if she needs to.

Aerith*
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scar the 1
08/26/18 5:10:22 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
A couple of lines ar funnier if you take it as her saying she is a hooker but with what the game shows us she is literally just a flower seller with a lot of street smarts.

Again, that's the whole point. The deception isn't something that she does, it's something that the game does to mislead the audience. You're saying "the game shows us", we're saying "YES, THAT'S THE EUPHEMISM".
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spikethedevil
08/26/18 5:11:16 AM
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I get it alright lol.
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scar the 1
08/26/18 5:21:05 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
I get it alright lol.

Maybe you do, it's just that your every response has been "yeah I get it, but <proceeds to not get it>", lol
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cjsdowg
08/26/18 5:29:57 AM
#37:


Tifa knew that Cloud was full of shit too.

It is funny since after telling the Story Barret it like this doesn't add up lol.

Also was Aerith selling her flower or not.
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legendarylemur
08/26/18 7:06:42 AM
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America is a country that frequently fucking confuses your and you're. Don't expect them to understand that it's Aerith, not Aeris

I suppose you guys think it's fucking Febuary huh
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Crepes
08/26/18 7:12:33 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
spikethedevil posted...
I get it alright lol.

Maybe you do, it's just that your every response has been "yeah I get it, but <proceeds to not get it>", lol


I dont get why you think shes a prostitute. Game never implies it.
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ThatMuttGuy
08/26/18 7:20:18 AM
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If anything it's Tifa that fucked up by letting Cloud live with his false memories.
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scar the 1
08/26/18 7:22:59 AM
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Crepes posted...
scar the 1 posted...
spikethedevil posted...
I get it alright lol.

Maybe you do, it's just that your every response has been "yeah I get it, but <proceeds to not get it>", lol


I dont get why you think shes a prostitute. Game never implies it.

I didn't say I think she's a prostitute, but in the context of "flower peddler" being a euphemism for prostitute in Japanese, the game can certainly be seen as implying she is one.
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alt_no_1_loves
08/26/18 7:30:06 AM
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Having just replayed FF7, I don't think any of your points are true or valid.

Also, *Aeris.
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spikethedevil
08/26/18 7:37:11 AM
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alt_no_1_loves posted...
Having just replayed FF7, I don't think any of your points are true or valid.

Also, *Aeris.


Aerith* Aeris is a translation error that got fixed simce no matter how much people deny it.
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ShroomKingJr
08/26/18 7:42:54 AM
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BlueMage279 posted...
Shotgunnova posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Aeris*

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YonicBoom
08/26/18 7:56:52 AM
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0uK8ENU




"Flower Seller"
"Selling of flowers. Also, the people who do so."

Word choice, peeps. No references to prostitution anywhere in this word selection.

Research.
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Howl
08/26/18 8:03:39 AM
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This is one of the dumbest FFVII theories ever tbh. It's on par with the silver chocobo myths honestly. There's absolutely nothing that indicates she was a prostitute. The game didn't use "flower seller" as a euphemism for prostitute because she literally just sells flowers. You should feel bad for believing this.
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scar the 1
08/26/18 8:05:16 AM
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Wow, you guys really do struggle with euphemisms. Talk about not seeing the forest for all the trees.
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spikethedevil
08/26/18 8:06:39 AM
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Except the game doesn't use it as a euphamism at all. If she wasn't literally selling flowers then they would be.
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VectorChaos
08/26/18 8:08:11 AM
#50:


Tyranthraxus posted...


She knew the entire time Cloud's memories were false and allowed him to believe them





No, that's Tifa, who never fucking speaks up and just lets Cloud go on with his fucked up memories, which allows Sephiroth to manipulate him at will and leads to disaster.

Seriously, everything bad that happened from the Temple of the Ancients to the North Crater could have probably been avoided if Tifa opened her stupid mouth and got Cloud to sort his shit out

Aeris only starts realizing something is definitely wrong when she starts talking about how much Cloud and Zack were alike on the gondola ride during the date
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scar the 1
08/26/18 8:08:51 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Except the game doesn't use it as a euphamism at all. If she wasn't literally selling flowers then they would be.

Lol, so you actually don't get it
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spikethedevil
08/26/18 8:09:13 AM
#52:


VectorChaos posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...


She knew the entire time Cloud's memories were false and allowed him to believe them





No, that's Tifa, who never fucking speaks up and just lets Cloud go on with his fucked up memories, which allows Sephiroth to manipulate him at will and leads to disaster.

Seriously, everything bad that happened from the Temple of the Ancients to the North Crater could have probably been avoided if Tifa opened her stupid mouth and got Cloud to sort his shit out


This is very true.
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