Board 8 > The Last Remnant is being delisted on Steam, soon.

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TheArkOfTurus
08/24/18 2:56:17 PM
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https://steamcommunity.com/games/23310/announcements/detail/1709566654679120493

It isn't clear why (there's no licensed music, to my knowledge), but it's going to be gone on September 4th.

I'm really sad to see this. I'm not sure I'd recommend everyone go out and buy it, the story is forgettable, and the battle system is extremely convoluted, and can be very random at times. It's also extremely unique, though, and I ended up absolutely loving it. Maybe give it a look to see if it's something you might be interested in before it's gone.

(Also, don't get the 360 version. The PC version was a HUGE improvement.)
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SgtSphynx
08/24/18 2:58:51 PM
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That game has been on my Steam wishlist for several years
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LapisLazuli
08/24/18 3:04:25 PM
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Wow, I can safely say that there wasn't a single cell left in my brain with the knowledge that this game existed.

With it all coming back to me I remember playing a few hours and thinking the game was a complete dud, but that was...soooo long ago.
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TheArkOfTurus
08/25/18 7:02:27 PM
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Gonna bump this once.
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Underleveled
08/25/18 7:11:48 PM
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Tag I guess?
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Paratroopa1
08/25/18 7:15:39 PM
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this is why I still can never really get on board with the idea of all gaming content being digital
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Wanglicious
08/25/18 7:30:03 PM
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the battle system is basically designed for spreadsheets nuts iirc. it's crazy depth is something that can easily push any sane person aside.
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FlyingForever
08/25/18 7:40:59 PM
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Super happy this can be whiped from existsance this game was so bad
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Paratroopa1
08/25/18 7:43:50 PM
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aw man this is a game with like two different races of cute fish people

I kind of need it even if it sucks
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Mac Arrowny
08/25/18 7:43:57 PM
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Paratroopa1 posted...
this is why I still can never really get on board with the idea of all gaming content being digital


I mean, you can still pirate it even if it disappears from Steam.

Also you'll still be able to redownload it, so it's basically the same as buying a physical copy...
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Paratroopa1
08/25/18 7:45:29 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...

Also you'll still be able to redownload it, so it's basically the same as buying a physical copy...

normally after a game goes out of print you can still buy it used
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Mac Arrowny
08/25/18 7:48:10 PM
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And buying used is essentially the same as piracy. Game devs hate it.
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ChaosTonyV4
08/25/18 7:49:26 PM
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I own this game on 360 and literally never launched it.
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Paratroopa1
08/25/18 7:50:22 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
And buying used is essentially the same as piracy. Game devs hate it.

My original point was about something not becoming impossible to distribute
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Furious Fura
08/26/18 5:38:44 AM
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well i bought it since it's only 10 euros so i might as well try it not a big loss if i dont like it

gotta finish zero time dilemma first tho
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BlackMageJawa
08/26/18 6:19:17 AM
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I've had this sitting in my Steam library for years, so I guess I might as well play it while it's slightly relevant.

Question is, do I use this mod that claims to fix the hilariously broken level scaling system?
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Peace___Frog
08/26/18 8:15:40 AM
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SgtSphynx posted...
That game has been on my Steam wishlist for several years

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MrGreenonion
08/26/18 10:42:44 AM
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Looks like I bought the PC version in 2011 and never played it
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HashtagSEP
08/26/18 4:07:09 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
And buying used is essentially the same as piracy. Game devs hate it.


Buying used is still limited to the amount of copies available, whereas piracy is basically infinite, so... This is always going to be a really dumb argument

Then again, but you can just pirate it always is
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Lord Bob Bree
08/26/18 5:37:36 PM
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BlackMageJawa posted...
I've had this sitting in my Steam library for years, so I guess I might as well play it while it's slightly relevant.

Question is, do I use this mod that claims to fix the hilariously broken level scaling system?


It's really not broken ( well, maybe it was on 360. Not sure how it was there). Just don't grind for hours on weak enemies and you'll be fine.
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Tom Bombadil
08/26/18 6:05:24 PM
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Wanglicious posted...
he battle system is basically designed for spreadsheets nuts iirc. it's crazy depth is something that can easily push any sane person aside.


Paratroopa1 posted...
like two different races of cute fish people


well heck now I need this game that I have never heard of that is about to disappear
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BlackMageJawa
08/26/18 6:17:38 PM
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So, uh... is it just me, or is Rush a complete idiot? From the first few cutscenes, it appears that he-
> Doesn't know what a cave is
> Doesn't know what a spy is
> Doesn't know what a battle is, but thinks it's a good idea to run into the middle of one in order to grab a woman he assumes must be his sister despite having zero physical resemblance to her
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TheArkOfTurus
08/26/18 6:19:41 PM
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He is the biggest idiot.
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WhiteLens
08/26/18 7:12:08 PM
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It's as if he rushed into battle and rushed to conclusion.
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MZero11
08/26/18 8:11:12 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
Mac Arrowny posted...
And buying used is essentially the same as piracy. Game devs hate it.


Buying used is still limited to the amount of copies available, whereas piracy is basically infinite, so... This is always going to be a really dumb argument

Then again, but you can just pirate it always is


Yeah but whether you pirate it or buy it from some guy on eBay the developer isn't getting any money, so at that point infinite copies at least get more people playing the game and increase publicity
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StealThisSheen
08/26/18 8:54:54 PM
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MZero11 posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
Mac Arrowny posted...
And buying used is essentially the same as piracy. Game devs hate it.


Buying used is still limited to the amount of copies available, whereas piracy is basically infinite, so... This is always going to be a really dumb argument

Then again, but you can just pirate it always is


Yeah but whether you pirate it or buy it from some guy on eBay the developer isn't getting any money, so at that point infinite copies at least get more people playing the game and increase publicity


Yeah but the vast majority of that publicity is just going to pirate the developer's next game, too

Besides, used games exist often because somebody wanted money to buy another game, which translates to a higher potential for a new sale
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Xiahou Shake
08/26/18 10:29:51 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
Yeah but the vast majority of that publicity is just going to pirate the developer's next game, too

I think people vastly underestimate how often folks pirate as a means to "try before you buy," or to check out games they had zero inclination to buy and later go on to purchase those games. I won't drag out the EU study from last year since it has an admittedly massive margin of error, but there's a very real chance that video game piracy creates sales rather than hurting them in a significant number of cases.
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StealThisSheen
08/27/18 1:13:44 AM
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I'm not sure I buy that all too much since piracy numbers never really go down in a series or anything, so it seems odd to suggest that people pirate Game 1, like it, buy it, but then pirate Game 2 anyway as another "try before you buy."

And then you get cases of games like Punch-Out on Wii where the game was pirated like #x more times than it was purchased to an insane degree.

I can atleast kinda understand pirating old games long since out of production. Your SNES, Genesis, and so on. But I find the suggestion that people who pirate current games buy them en masse to be dubious at best.
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psaltery
08/27/18 1:20:17 AM
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Maybe it is a ploy to boost sales using the deadline of discontinuation.
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Mac Arrowny
08/27/18 1:39:40 AM
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I don't really think piracy helps increase game sales in any way. My only point was that even if a game is no longer available for digital purchase, it's still available to pirate, so even digital-only games never truly vanish.
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StealThisSheen
08/27/18 2:22:12 AM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
I don't really think piracy helps increase game sales in any way. My only point was that even if a game is no longer available for digital purchase, it's still available to pirate, so even digital-only games never truly vanish.


Oh, well that's a fair enough point

I'm used to people being super "Piracy actually helps" on here
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