Poll of the Day > Black Guy wearing 'White/Caucasian' Logo/Mascot Shirt goes viral...

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pionear
08/01/18 2:44:06 PM
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Which One? - Results (3 votes)
Yes
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No
66.67% (2 votes)
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Do you think this is 'Racist'? (Poll Question)
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ninja_lootz
08/01/18 2:54:52 PM
#2:


The shirt itself? No.

The fact that he's only wearing it to piss off white people? Kinda.
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TomNook
08/01/18 3:01:48 PM
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Why would anyone be bothered. That'd be like people getting mad at me for wearing a Red Skins jersey.
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Kyuubi4269
08/01/18 3:03:22 PM
#4:


Does that have any significance or is it just trying to be edgy?
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Mead
08/01/18 3:15:12 PM
#5:


How is it in any way racist
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GanglyKhan
08/01/18 3:16:22 PM
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This is typically my response to any social topic these days:
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DPsx7
08/01/18 3:25:33 PM
#7:


TomNook posted...
Why would anyone be bothered. That'd be like people getting mad at me for wearing a Red Skins jersey.


You have a good point. What is 'racism'? Is it something people actually DO, or are we just looking for any ridiculous way to be offended?
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papercup
08/01/18 3:36:02 PM
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Is there any reason to care? No? Okay.
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Lil69Leo
08/01/18 3:44:56 PM
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Mead posted...
How is it in any way racist


This.

The redskins logo is racist because obvious reasons.

Now if the shirt said Crackers then sure its racist.
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ernieforss
08/01/18 3:59:21 PM
#10:


i acutally like it. ^ also it should say indian givers.
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Metal_Mario99
08/01/18 4:03:40 PM
#11:


Doesn't bother me, because I'm not an SJW crybaby.
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JTekashiro
08/01/18 4:06:43 PM
#12:


TomNook posted...
Why would anyone be bothered. That'd be like people getting mad at me for wearing a Red Skins jersey.


Well, "Red Skins" is an ethnic slur of Native American people and the jersey depicts an Indian chief. It takes some serious mental gymnastics to not see anything remotely offensive about that act.
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Muscles
08/01/18 4:17:24 PM
#13:


No, I think it should have taken it a bit further and said whiteskins instead of caucasians

JTekashiro posted...
TomNook posted...
Why would anyone be bothered. That'd be like people getting mad at me for wearing a Red Skins jersey.


Well, "Red Skins" is an ethnic slur of Native American people and the jersey depicts an Indian chief. It takes some serious mental gymnastics to not see anything remotely offensive about that act.


Except it's not racist, Redskins was a name for specific warriors that used red war paint, it was made by Native Americans not white men trying to hurt their feelings
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zebatov
08/01/18 5:33:34 PM
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Smarkil
08/01/18 5:46:32 PM
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I think it's hilarious.

I wish there were a Caucasians sports franchise.
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streamofthesky
08/01/18 6:01:14 PM
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No, because "Caucasian" isn't an offensive word for white people.

Redskin is an offensive term for Native Americans. It's a really poor analogy he's got going there. Could have at least gone with "White Skins" which still is not offensive but at least sounds like a crappier way to describe a group of people.

But if people are throwing a fit over such a benign shirt, I guess he proved his point quite well.
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FrisbeeDude
08/01/18 6:22:44 PM
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papercup posted...
Is there any reason to care? No? Okay.


people (mostly white) got so upset when Bomani Jones wore basically the same shirt on ESPN, network executives literally made him zip up his sweater so it wasnt visible during the rest of his television appearance

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexreimer/2016/04/09/the-story-behind-bomani-jones-caucasian-shirt/#6915c8574e26
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TheOrangeMisfit
08/01/18 6:26:24 PM
#18:


Probably just a kaeperneck wanna be looking for attention, don't give it to him.
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Krazy_Kirby
08/01/18 6:48:53 PM
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JTekashiro posted...
TomNook posted...
Why would anyone be bothered. That'd be like people getting mad at me for wearing a Red Skins jersey.


Well, "Red Skins" is an ethnic slur of Native American people and the jersey depicts an Indian chief. It takes some serious mental gymnastics to not see anything remotely offensive about that act.


the majority of indians are fine with that team name
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Revelation34
08/01/18 6:48:59 PM
#21:


Nothing wrong with the Redskins name or logo. It is meant to honor the natives.
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green dragon
08/01/18 6:49:50 PM
#22:


TomNook posted...
Why would anyone be bothered. That'd be like people getting mad at me for wearing a Red Skins jersey.

That's funny because that's basically the reason why the guy made and wore the shirt.

I read the article elsewhere, not sure why tc didn't include that
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Lil69Leo
08/01/18 6:51:32 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
JTekashiro posted...
TomNook posted...
Why would anyone be bothered. That'd be like people getting mad at me for wearing a Red Skins jersey.


Well, "Red Skins" is an ethnic slur of Native American people and the jersey depicts an Indian chief. It takes some serious mental gymnastics to not see anything remotely offensive about that act.


the majority of indians are fine with that team name


Link?
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Krazy_Kirby
08/01/18 7:01:00 PM
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Revelation34
08/01/18 7:07:19 PM
#25:


green dragon posted...

That's funny because that's basically the reason why the guy made and wore the shirt.

I read the article elsewhere, not sure why tc didn't include that


I find it more laughable when somebody who isn't a Native American bitches about it.
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green dragon
08/01/18 7:08:37 PM
#26:


Revelation34 posted...
I find it more laughable when somebody who isn't a native American bitches about it.

I don't.
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Revelation34
08/01/18 7:09:58 PM
#27:


green dragon posted...
I don't.


It is hilarious. They are the kind of people who bitch about shit just to bitch about it.
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Syntheticon
08/01/18 7:18:06 PM
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Of course it's racist, in the same way the redskins logo is racist-you're objectifying a race and that's the entire point.
I think it's fantastic and it's only a shame there wasn't a more racist term for white people that would make the joke more offensive in order to get the point across.
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Sarcasthma
08/01/18 7:26:44 PM
#29:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
JTekashiro posted...
TomNook posted...
Why would anyone be bothered. That'd be like people getting mad at me for wearing a Red Skins jersey.


Well, "Red Skins" is an ethnic slur of Native American people and the jersey depicts an Indian chief. It takes some serious mental gymnastics to not see anything remotely offensive about that act.


the majority of indians are fine with that team name

Well yeah, they're all the way over in India.
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Yellow
08/01/18 7:41:49 PM
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I'm a guy who doesn't need to attach 'racist' and 'not racist' to everything, or get super panicked trying to get other people on my train.

That's honestly some interesting perspective though, never really felt as if someone marketed my race as their mascot.
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Revelation34
08/01/18 7:54:52 PM
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Syntheticon posted...
Of course it's racist, in the same way the redskins logo is racist-you're objectifying a race and that's the entire point.


Nope.
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likehelly
08/01/18 7:57:47 PM
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well im offended
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keyblader1985
08/01/18 8:03:57 PM
#33:


Just one look and I could tell it was a parody of certain sports teams.
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dioxxys
08/01/18 8:33:01 PM
#34:


I don't really care if anything it's funny too bad it doesn't just say whites
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Zeus
08/01/18 9:30:41 PM
#35:


Well, it's stupid, but whatever, anything to get slacktivists attention so they can build their social following and never have to work a real job.

streamofthesky posted...
No, because "Caucasian" isn't an offensive word for white people.


It's very offensive! I was offended! I'm sure other people are offended! Grrrr, offended!

Revelation34 posted...
I find it more laughable when somebody who isn't a Native American bitches about it.


It's almost always somebody other than the group complaining the loudest, tbh.
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jramirez23
08/01/18 9:59:01 PM
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lol that shirt is pretty funny.
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Trancer Hunter
08/01/18 10:01:45 PM
#38:


I don't consider the shirt racist and is in fact funny.
But I do think his purpose in wearing it is racist.
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GreenGoodness
08/01/18 10:55:03 PM
#39:


If you want to fix that shirt, make it say Rednecks and put a country guy with a hat and beard on it
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pionear
08/02/18 12:44:18 PM
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Yellow posted...
never really felt as if someone marketed my race as their mascot.


I guessing you're not Irish, huh...
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Kyuubi4269
08/02/18 12:57:58 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
No, because "Caucasian" isn't an offensive word for white people.

This train of thought is offensive to me.

Intent is all that matters. A doctor in M*A*S*H calling black people negros in respect to black people often having more issues with a blood-borne affliction isn't offensive as it was just referencing the guys neutrally over an issue that effects them.

Calling white people Caucasians in a lazy attempt to degrade white people is offensive because that was the intent.
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green dragon
08/02/18 1:10:54 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
A doctor in M*A*S*H

MASH literally had a black character named 'spear chucker'.

Mash may not be your best example.

And intent isn't all that matters, people can be racist and biased towards others without intending to.
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Kyuubi4269
08/02/18 1:19:05 PM
#43:


green dragon posted...
people can be racist and biased towards others without intending to.

How can you not intend to have a bias? You choose what you favour. Plenty of people don't believe they're racist when they are, but they are people who make bs definitions of racism like "discrimination+power".

Someone who claims that they aren't racist but their race am best still intended to express that their race is superior (which is racist), they just think they have a magic exception when they don't.
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dedbus
08/02/18 1:20:02 PM
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Looks pretty distinguished.
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Kyuubi4269
08/02/18 1:20:52 PM
#45:


green dragon posted...
MASH literally had a black character named 'spear chucker'.

Mash may not be your best example.

By your logic, on top gear a guy said a car is shit so that means all cars are shit on top gear.

I made a specific example and that specific situation was correct.
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Revelation34
08/02/18 2:11:19 PM
#46:


pionear posted...

I guessing you're not Irish, huh...


Irish isn't a race.
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myghostisdead
08/02/18 2:14:25 PM
#47:


GreenGoodness posted...
If you want to fix that shirt, make it say Rednecks and put a country guy with a hat and beard on it


How does that fix it?
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dioxxys
08/02/18 2:58:59 PM
#48:


pionear posted...
Yellow posted...
never really felt as if someone marketed my race as their mascot.


I guessing you're not Irish, huh...

Oh yeah, don't you know? It's okay to do with people with lite skin colors?

It's only the darker colored people that matter, I'd know being a white latino male
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TheCyborgNinja
08/02/18 3:02:43 PM
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It's not insulting anyone, so no.
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Revelation34
08/03/18 2:38:53 PM
#50:


dioxxys posted...
Oh yeah, don't you know? It's okay to do with people with lite skin colors?

It's only the darker colored people that matter, I'd know being a white latino male


It really doesn't matter in this case since as I already pointed out Irish isn't a race. The most you can argue against is stereotypes like the name Fighting Irish.
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faramir77
08/03/18 3:22:36 PM
#51:


I got in an argument with a friend yesterday about the Redskins name.

90% of Natives don't care. The outrage about this is almost exclusively from white people. If the people who the name supposedly offends are overwhelmingly not offended, why bother changing it.
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