Poll of the Day > I get that Zelda is a fantasy game with expected unrealism...

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But was kids playing with bombs really a thing?
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maybe not bombs, but firecrackers, bottlerockers, m80's, etc, ok?

But can you see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

TheWorstPoster posted...

But can you see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

https://www.generalmills.com/~/media/Images/Brands/Nutritional_Images/Big_G/Cinnamon_Toast_Crunch.jpg
Nine grams of sugar.

More than they swing a sword and kill monsters/ get attacked by pissed off chickens all day. (Roosters can get mean and attack though, that is true.)
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Yes, after WW2, kids would throw unexploded bombs into campfires and run away. One kid got blown up. I'm not kidding.

Fierce_Deity_08 posted...

More than they swing a sword and kill monsters/ get attacked by pissed off chickens all day. (Roosters can get mean and attack though, that is true.)

They can attack through the fence

Questionmarktarius posted...

TheWorstPoster posted...

But can you see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

https://www.generalmills.com/~/media/Images/Brands/Nutritional_Images/Big_G/Cinnamon_Toast_Crunch.jpg
Nine grams of sugar.

That's it? I expected at least 3X that much.
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Dikitain posted...

Nine grams of sugar.

That's still two teaspoons and some change, all at once.

Honey Smacks may well be the champion. It's 57% sugar, by mass.
http://smartlabel.kelloggs.com/Product/Index/00038000148101

Questionmarktarius posted...

Dikitain posted...

Nine grams of sugar.

That's still two teaspoons and some change, all at once.

Honey Smacks may well be the champion. It's 57% sugar, by mass.
http://smartlabel.kelloggs.com/Product/Index/00038000148101

Doesn't a bottle of soda have like 50 grams of sugar though? I figured cereal would at least compete with that.
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Thanks for reaffirming why I rarely eat cereal lol

Lokarin posted...

But was kids playing with bombs really a thing?

Since the entire franchise is supposedly mostly inspired by Shigeru Miyamoto's childhood, I can only assume that, yes, in Japan it is entirely normal for small children to play with bombs.

And to also jump on turtles, throw fireballs at things, and beat up old men in caves with wooden swords.


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Are kids ever shown in Zelda games just playing with bombs? Link is using bombs to find hidden areas, though of course in the interest of freedom you can make him set off bombs anywhere.

OmegaM posted...

Are kids ever shown in Zelda games just playing with bombs? Link is using bombs to find hidden areas, though of course in the interest of freedom you can make him set off bombs anywhere.

And considering how most players tend to act in games, Link is pretty irresponsible as fuck with whatever explosives he finds.


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OmegaM posted...

Are kids ever shown in Zelda games just playing with bombs? Link is using bombs to find hidden areas, though of course in the interest of freedom you can make him set off bombs anywhere.

Fishing with bombs is SO much better. I just spent about a half an hour trying to reel in a fish in Ocarina of Time.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

TheWorstPoster posted...

But can you see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

https://www.generalmills.com/~/media/Images/Brands/Nutritional_Images/Big_G/Cinnamon_Toast_Crunch.jpg
Nine grams of sugar.

Which is half of what Kellogg's Raisin Bran has:
https://images.kglobalservices.com/www.kelloggs.com/en_us/productitemnutrition/product_4508651/nutlabel-2897252_11070_3800059663.gif
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Blaqthourne posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

TheWorstPoster posted...

But can you see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

https://www.generalmills.com/~/media/Images/Brands/Nutritional_Images/Big_G/Cinnamon_Toast_Crunch.jpg
Nine grams of sugar.

Which is half of what Kellogg's Raisin Bran has:
https://images.kglobalservices.com/www.kelloggs.com/en_us/productitemnutrition/product_4508651/nutlabel-2897252_11070_3800059663.gif

Raisins are condensed fruit, that's normal.
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minervo posted...

Yes, after WW2, kids would throw unexploded bombs into campfires and run away. One kid got blown up. I'm not kidding.

Or they would find grenades and died playing around with it. Also getting killed trying to go into bunkers while it was blocked by a rock and digging under the rock.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Lokarin posted...

But was kids playing with bombs really a thing?

Since the entire franchise is supposedly mostly inspired by Shigeru Miyamoto's childhood, I can only assume that, yes, in Japan it is entirely normal for small children to play with bombs.

And to also jump on turtles, throw fireballs at things, and beat up old men in caves with wooden swords.

FYI, if you're talking about the first sword in Zelda 1, it's actually just a Sword:

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/pdf/CLV-P-NAANE.pdf (page 19)

But I too for a long time thought that it was officially the Wooden Sword. I'm not sure how I got that impression. Well, obviously it stuck because the Sword is brown, but I don't recall how I first got to calling it the Wooden Sword. I do recall somebody calling it that in a letter to Nintendo Power.

In the Title Screen the sword looks like a Sabre, but it has always been depicted as an arming sword, or even long sword
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OmegaM posted...

FYI, if you're talking about the first sword in Zelda 1, it's actually just a Sword:

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/pdf/CLV-P-NAANE.pdf (page 19)

Game manuals in the US are pretty much meaningless, because they were usually written by people who knew very little about the actual game, and were rarely based on anything canonical or the intent of the original developers. Never trust anything they tell you, it's usually wrong.

Though to be honest, during the NES and SNES era, you can't really trust much that the actual games tell you either, since they also tended to be translated by people who barely understood the original Japanese and didn't really care all that much how inaccurate they were being.



OmegaM posted...

But I too for a long time thought that it was officially the Wooden Sword. I'm not sure how I got that impression. Well, obviously it stuck because the Sword is brown, but I don't recall how I first got to calling it the Wooden Sword.

Because nothing in the game actually refers to it by name, and it's brown. Add that to the fact that the game is based on the childhood adventures of a kid (which is also why Link is almost always drawn looking so young), and it's kind of clear the original intent was for it to be a wooden sword. Sort of underlined by the fact that wooden swords show up in later games as well.

Basically, the "White Sword" is the actual metal sword, and the "Magic Sword" is the one that was the default signature sword for the series until the Master Sword became a thing.


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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Lokarin posted...

But was kids playing with bombs really a thing?

Since the entire franchise is supposedly mostly inspired by Shigeru Miyamoto's childhood, I can only assume that, yes, in Japan it is entirely normal for small children to play with bombs.

And to also jump on turtles, throw fireballs at things, and beat up old men in caves with wooden swords.

This is why I love you PO.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Because nothing in the game actually refers to it by name, and it's brown. Add that to the fact that the game is based on the childhood adventures of a kid (which is also why Link is almost always drawn looking so young), and it's kind of clear the original intent was for it to be a wooden sword. Sort of underlined by the fact that wooden swords show up in later games as well.

Yes, in looking this up I did see that some later Zeldas had official Wooden Swords. If the Japanese manual for Zelda 1 called it a Wooden Sword, obviously what I said before was wrong.

The first sword in Zelda 1 could be brown and made of copper or bronze.

Lokarin posted...

In the Title Screen the sword looks like a Sabre, but it has always been depicted as an arming sword, or even long sword

They're supposed to be longswords but how a kid can use a longsword while also holding a shield is interesting.
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Revelation34 posted...

Lokarin posted...

In the Title Screen the sword looks like a Sabre, but it has always been depicted as an arming sword, or even long sword

They're supposed to be longswords but how a kid can use a longsword while also holding a shield is interesting.

longswords are a fair lot longer than the master sword, which isn't even the relevant sword for the first game - that's why I said Arming Sword.
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Lokarin posted...

Revelation34 posted...

Lokarin posted...

In the Title Screen the sword looks like a Sabre, but it has always been depicted as an arming sword, or even long sword

They're supposed to be longswords but how a kid can use a longsword while also holding a shield is interesting.

longswords are a fair lot longer than the master sword, which isn't even the relevant sword for the first game - that's why I said Arming Sword.

Link's "sword" is barely a hunting knife in Zelda 2.

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